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Black grape advice
Good afternoon, my 5 yr old grape has again produced very little this year,
3 very small bunches. Before I do anything this year regarding this vine,after previously letting it grow- getting no crop. Pruning and getting no crop, I have nothing to lose trying something else. So any advice please would be appreciated. The vine is in my greenhouse rising to about 6ft then going 90 degrees along the roof, with plenty of growth along it's length. Go on someone tell me what is the best way to get a crop next year. Thanks Mike -- **This bit of the email is automatically generated. Nothing personal** But If emailing me along with others, please use the BCC function of your email program. I'm sure your other friends don't want my email address, just as I don't want theirs. |
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On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 14:31:58 GMT, "Mike Fitzpatrick"
wrote: Good afternoon, my 5 yr old grape has again produced very little this year, 3 very small bunches. Before I do anything this year regarding this vine,after previously letting it grow- getting no crop. Pruning and getting no crop, I have nothing to lose trying something else. So any advice please would be appreciated. The vine is in my greenhouse rising to about 6ft then going 90 degrees along the roof, with plenty of growth along it's length. Go on someone tell me what is the best way to get a crop next year. Mike, what size were the grapes on the small bunches? I have what was given to me as Black Hamburg. It has been on my allotment for 10 years and took a few years to fruit at all, but the bunches and the grapes are small, and often don't ripen outside. (Not your problem) If you can find the Gardening section from last Satuday's Telegraph, there is a useful article about growing with variety recommendations. Somebody here may have a spare they can send you. It says you should not let it fruit for 3 years! Pam in Bristol |
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The message
from "Mike Fitzpatrick" contains these words: Good afternoon, my 5 yr old grape has again produced very little this year, 3 very small bunches. Before I do anything this year regarding this vine,after previously letting it grow- getting no crop. Pruning and getting no crop, I have nothing to lose trying something else. So any advice please would be appreciated. The vine is in my greenhouse rising to about 6ft then going 90 degrees along the roof, with plenty of growth along it's length. Go on someone tell me what is the best way to get a crop next year. When the leaves have fallen, cut all the laterals back to two buds (if it's a fairly mature vine. If it's only a few years old, leave it at one bud.) _ Looking Upwards_ n// n// // // _______//n______________//n______________ ____________ _________________ ________ \\u \\u u\\ u\\ ¯ ¯ In the spring, allow both buds to produce new laterals, and *AFTER THE FLOWERS HAVE SET FRUIT*, remove each weaker lateral, and prune the other one back to around three leaves past the young bunch. Leave no more than two bunches on a lateral, and it is better to leave only the one. Do *NOT* prune too early, as the cut will not heal, and the vine will lose a lot of sap, and may even bleed to death. After the fruit has set, you should be able to trim it mercilessly - some leaves are necessary, of course, but new laterals may be removed wholesale. -- Rusty Emus to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co full-stop uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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Thanks Pam, the size is about the size of a marrowfat pea maybe a bit
bigger.(all ripening tho') I have in the past had really good fruit taste and size it is just the last 3 I have had very very little, last year none at all. Any help? Mike -- **This bit of the email is automatically generated. Nothing personal** But If emailing me along with others, please use the BCC function of your email program. I'm sure your other friends don't want my email address, just as I don't want theirs. "Pam Moore" wrote in message ... On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 14:31:58 GMT, "Mike Fitzpatrick" wrote: Good afternoon, my 5 yr old grape has again produced very little this year, 3 very small bunches. Before I do anything this year regarding this vine,after previously letting it grow- getting no crop. Pruning and getting no crop, I have nothing to lose trying something else. So any advice please would be appreciated. The vine is in my greenhouse rising to about 6ft then going 90 degrees along the roof, with plenty of growth along it's length. Go on someone tell me what is the best way to get a crop next year. Mike, what size were the grapes on the small bunches? I have what was given to me as Black Hamburg. It has been on my allotment for 10 years and took a few years to fruit at all, but the bunches and the grapes are small, and often don't ripen outside. (Not your problem) If you can find the Gardening section from last Satuday's Telegraph, there is a useful article about growing with variety recommendations. Somebody here may have a spare they can send you. It says you should not let it fruit for 3 years! Pam in Bristol |
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The message
from "Mike Fitzpatrick" contains these words: Thanks Pam, the size is about the size of a marrowfat pea maybe a bit bigger.(all ripening tho') I have in the past had really good fruit taste and size it is just the last 3 I have had very very little, last year none at all. Any help? Just don't feed it nitrogen. Bone meal, sulphate of potash etc might help. If it's that established, water should be no problem, though giving the roots a soaking from time to time certainly won't hurt. Traditionally, the French would say 'plant it over a dead donkey', but vines are really not fussy: a politician or double-glazing salesman would do almost as well. [1] [1] but in French -- Rusty Emus to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co full-stop uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:29:11 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote: Traditionally, the French would say 'plant it over a dead donkey', but vines are really not fussy: a politician or double-glazing salesman would do almost as well. Or as someone on GQT once asked after she had put a question to the panel about growing vines, and Bob Flowerdew mentioned the dead donkey, "Would next soor's cat do?". Pam in Bristol |
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