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Lucy 19-09-2005 10:44 AM

Identifying a plant
 
Hi

I am trying to find out what a plant is that I have seen in a local
park and the Leicester University Botanical Garden. It has leaves
similar in size and shape to a Fatsia but is a dark green/red leaf. The
plants I have seen are about a metre high and have pink spiky looking
fruit/flowers close to the stem.

I just wondered if anyone knew what it was

Many thanks
Lucy


Philippe Gautier 19-09-2005 10:50 AM

Lucy wrote:
Hi

I am trying to find out what a plant is that I have seen in a local
park and the Leicester University Botanical Garden. It has leaves
similar in size and shape to a Fatsia but is a dark green/red leaf. The
plants I have seen are about a metre high and have pink spiky looking
fruit/flowers close to the stem.

I just wondered if anyone knew what it was

Many thanks
Lucy


It's Ricinus, or Castor bean plant

http://www.ansci.cornell.edu/plants/castorbean.html

Charlie Pridham 19-09-2005 11:31 AM


"Lucy" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hi

I am trying to find out what a plant is that I have seen in a local
park and the Leicester University Botanical Garden. It has leaves
similar in size and shape to a Fatsia but is a dark green/red leaf. The
plants I have seen are about a metre high and have pink spiky looking
fruit/flowers close to the stem.

I just wondered if anyone knew what it was

Many thanks
Lucy

Probably the "Castor Oil Plant" Ricinis.

--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)



Sacha 19-09-2005 12:03 PM

On 19/9/05 10:50, in article , "Philippe
Gautier" wrote:

Lucy wrote:
Hi

I am trying to find out what a plant is that I have seen in a local
park and the Leicester University Botanical Garden. It has leaves
similar in size and shape to a Fatsia but is a dark green/red leaf. The
plants I have seen are about a metre high and have pink spiky looking
fruit/flowers close to the stem.

I just wondered if anyone knew what it was

Many thanks
Lucy


It's Ricinus, or Castor bean plant

http://www.ansci.cornell.edu/plants/castorbean.html


It certainly is. Very striking and extremely poisonous. I understand that
it's the most poisonous plant in UK.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


Lucy 20-09-2005 10:23 AM

Many thanks to everyone. Yes it is that one as I had a look at some
pictures on the web. However if it is as poisonous as you say I'll
perhaps avoid it as I've two young children.

Cheers
Lucy


Sacha wrote:
On 19/9/05 10:50, in article , "Philippe
Gautier" wrote:

Lucy wrote:
Hi

I am trying to find out what a plant is that I have seen in a local
park and the Leicester University Botanical Garden. It has leaves
similar in size and shape to a Fatsia but is a dark green/red leaf. The
plants I have seen are about a metre high and have pink spiky looking
fruit/flowers close to the stem.

I just wondered if anyone knew what it was

Many thanks
Lucy


It's Ricinus, or Castor bean plant

http://www.ansci.cornell.edu/plants/castorbean.html


It certainly is. Very striking and extremely poisonous. I understand that
it's the most poisonous plant in UK.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)



Sacha 20-09-2005 11:43 AM

On 20/9/05 10:23, in article
, "Lucy"
wrote:

Many thanks to everyone. Yes it is that one as I had a look at some
pictures on the web. However if it is as poisonous as you say I'll
perhaps avoid it as I've two young children.

snip

It's fair to say that there are no known cases of deaths from eating
Ricinus accidentally, as far as I know. Indeed, more plants are poisonous
than are not, at least to some degree. But this is so toxic that I
wouldn't plant it with children around, no. However, the great thing is to
teach children not to put anything *at all* in their mouths without asking
you first. And they should bring *you* to the plants, not vice versa! You
don't want them picking Euphorbia or rue!
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


Cicero 20-09-2005 01:27 PM


"Sacha" wrote in message
.uk...
On 20/9/05 10:23, in article
, "Lucy"
wrote:

Many thanks to everyone. Yes it is that one as I had a look at some
pictures on the web. However if it is as poisonous as you say I'll
perhaps avoid it as I've two young children.

snip

It's fair to say that there are no known cases of deaths from eating
Ricinus accidentally, as far as I know. Indeed, more plants are

poisonous
than are not, at least to some degree. But this is so toxic that I
wouldn't plant it with children around, no. However, the great thing is to
teach children not to put anything *at all* in their mouths without

asking
you first. And they should bring *you* to the plants, not vice versa!

You
don't want them picking Euphorbia or rue!
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


==============
I believe that sale of the seeds was banned a few years ago when it was
considered that the poison which could be produced (Ricin) could be used to
make the type of gas which caused so many deaths and injuries in the gas
attacks on Japanese railway stations.

Cic.



Sacha 20-09-2005 01:34 PM

On 20/9/05 13:27, in article
, "Cicero"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
.uk...
On 20/9/05 10:23, in article
, "Lucy"
wrote:

Many thanks to everyone. Yes it is that one as I had a look at some
pictures on the web. However if it is as poisonous as you say I'll
perhaps avoid it as I've two young children.

snip

It's fair to say that there are no known cases of deaths from eating
Ricinus accidentally, as far as I know. Indeed, more plants are

poisonous
than are not, at least to some degree. But this is so toxic that I
wouldn't plant it with children around, no. However, the great thing is to
teach children not to put anything *at all* in their mouths without

asking
you first. And they should bring *you* to the plants, not vice versa!

You
don't want them picking Euphorbia or rue!
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


==============
I believe that sale of the seeds was banned a few years ago when it was
considered that the poison which could be produced (Ricin) could be used to
make the type of gas which caused so many deaths and injuries in the gas
attacks on Japanese railway stations.

Cic.


No, there was talk of banning them but it didn't happen. Various town
councils, including Totnes, have used them as part of municipal planting.
You can still get them from e.g. Mail order sites, too.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


Ornata 20-09-2005 03:12 PM

It's fair to say that there are no known cases of deaths from eating
Ricinus accidentally, as far as I know. Indeed, more plants are

poisonous than are not, at least to some degree. But this is so toxic that I
wouldn't plant it with children around, no. However, the great thing is to
teach children not to put anything *at all* in their mouths without

asking you first. And they should bring *you* to the plants, not vice versa!
You don't want them picking Euphorbia or rue!
--
Sacha


While it's true that the seeds are extremely poisonous and can result
in death if chewed and ingested, the rest of the plant is classed as
only mildly poisonous - i.e. less dangerous than a host of other garden
plants we happily grow. Ricinus are stunningly beautiful, dramatic
foliage plants, and I wouldn't be without them in my garden. To avoid
any problems, you can cut off the flowering parts before the seeds are
formed.


Charlie Pridham 20-09-2005 06:23 PM


"Cicero" wrote in message
.uk...

"Sacha" wrote in message
.uk...
On 20/9/05 10:23, in article
, "Lucy"
wrote:

Many thanks to everyone. Yes it is that one as I had a look at some
pictures on the web. However if it is as poisonous as you say I'll
perhaps avoid it as I've two young children.

snip

It's fair to say that there are no known cases of deaths from eating
Ricinus accidentally, as far as I know. Indeed, more plants are

poisonous
than are not, at least to some degree. But this is so toxic that I
wouldn't plant it with children around, no. However, the great thing is

to
teach children not to put anything *at all* in their mouths without

asking
you first. And they should bring *you* to the plants, not vice versa!

You
don't want them picking Euphorbia or rue!
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


==============
I believe that sale of the seeds was banned a few years ago when it was
considered that the poison which could be produced (Ricin) could be used

to
make the type of gas which caused so many deaths and injuries in the gas
attacks on Japanese railway stations.

Cic.

You are getting Ricin and Sarin muddled, Ricin was not used in the Tokyo
attacks. I also suspect it would turn out to be one of those deadly poisons
that it is actually quite hard to poison a lot of people with.
--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)




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