Buying a bit of my neighbours garden
 

Has anyone any idea to help me start negotiating?

Price per acre?

Thanks

"Pedro Popadopolous" wrote in message
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Has anyone any idea to help me start negotiating?

Price per acre?

When was a 'bit' as much as an acre?


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Alan

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Thanks

"Pedro Popadopolous" wrote in message
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Has anyone any idea to help me start negotiating?

Price per acre?

Thanks
Use the middle east approach....."I am but a poor man but"...these words
not to be taken too literally...most certainly do not appear to be too
anxious.....first of all it is up to you to decide the max. amount you are
prepared to pay....."If it is not much I wonder if you would like to sell
me xxx amoount of land"....there are so many waus of handling it......H who
spent his life negotiating contracts.

Depends where you are, what the area around is currently used for and
what you want it for. If is a just part of his garden then you will
just have to negotiate a price, if he suspects you want it to build
another house on then he will probably hold you to ransome. Value is
just what value you put on it in the end, what it is worth to you to
buy it.

Mike

"Pedro Popadopolous" wrote in message
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Has anyone any idea to help me start negotiating?

Price per acre?

Thanks


The going rate appears roughly that for building plots per acre, so be
prepared to pay a lot for a little!
--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)

"Alan Holmes" wrote in message
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"Pedro Popadopolous" wrote in
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Has anyone any idea to help me start negotiating?

Price per acre?

When was a 'bit' as much as an acre?


I thought if I knew how much an acre I could work out say an eighth....

If I had asked for the price of an eighth I thought many people might not
know...

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"Pedro Popadopolous" wrote in
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Has anyone any idea to help me start negotiating?

Price per acre?

When was a 'bit' as much as an acre?////////when you live in Texas

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"Pedro Popadopolous" wrote in
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Has anyone any idea to help me start negotiating?

Price per acre?

When was a 'bit' as much as an acre?
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I recently agreed to sell a 'bit' of my land for £2000~~~ he
is coming this week with his wheelbarrow!!
Best Wishes Brian.

My land, i.e. my garden, has just been registered with the
landregistry, and has been valued at something like =A380,000 an acre.

Mike

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oups.com...
My land, i.e. my garden, has just been registered with the
landregistry, and has been valued at something like £80,000 an acre.

Mike
in the words of the real estate sales people...location, locatio,
location.....I know of some land that 'aint worth a bucket of spit' for ten
acres.....H

"Pedro Popadopolous" wrote
Has anyone any idea to help me start negotiating?

Price per acre?

Depends on location, on how much it will add to your property and detract
from his.

Whatever you pay, and it will depend on the location, don't forget there
will be solicitors fees involved + Land registry fees so take the cost of
that into account as the seller will, no doubt, expect you to pay all fees.

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Regards
Bob
In Runnymede, 17 miles West of London

"Pedro Popadopolous" wrote in message
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Has anyone any idea to help me start negotiating?

Price per acre?

Thanks


Before you start any lengthy negotiations with reference to 'price per acre
building land' and 'price for a bit of agriculture land' ask ourself "What
do I want this bit of land for? How much is it worth to me?"

If it is worth £100.00 to you for what you want to do, i.e. extend your
garden then you have a price in mind.

Now go and see your neighbour and ask what they had in mind, if they say 'I
don't really know' then say that you have a figure in mind for that you want
to do with it and offer £100.00. If they come back and say 'I had thought of
more than that' they DO have a figure in mind and ask what it is. If they
come up with £1000.00, is it worth that to ou? If not, end of story.

When I was doing my business studies course, we had an exercise on marketing
and sales which included pricing of goods. The article cost to manufacture,
packaging, advertising etc etc, was, for example £1.00. "What will you sell
it for?" That was the excercise given to the groups. The groups came back
with various at around £1.50. "This article is on the market and selling
well at £3.75" 'How do you get that price?' we asked. "It's what the public
will pay for it"

How much is that bit of land worth "TO YOU"?

Would you pay £5000.00 to extend your garden?

Mike

Mike wrote:

How much is that bit of land worth "TO YOU"?

Would you pay £5000.00 to extend your garden?

Mike

andCharlie Pridham wrote:

The going rate appears roughly that for building plots per acre, so be
prepared to pay a lot for a little!



exactly so, best part of 20 yeas ago, i sold the end 10m*10m bit of my
mother's garden to the rear neighbour to "square off" his L-shaped garden
for £3000 (I had power of attourney while she was in a nursing home). I've
just checked a website giving land value trends and, amazingly, that was
bang on the mark for residential building land o/s london.

Value to us, zero. Garden was if anything better proportioned without that
bit & we needed cash to pay fees.

Value to neigbour: Lots as odd difficlut to use L-shaped garden transformed
into nicely proportioned rectangle = easier to use and to sell.

pk

"Mike" wrote in message
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"Pedro Popadopolous" wrote in
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Price per acre?

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When I was doing my business studies course, we had an exercise on
marketing
and sales which included pricing of goods. The article cost to
manufacture,
packaging, advertising etc etc, was, for example £1.00. "What will you
sell
it for?" That was the excercise given to the groups. The groups came back
with various at around £1.50. "This article is on the market and selling
well at £3.75" 'How do you get that price?' we asked. "It's what the
public
will pay for it"

How much is that bit of land worth "TO YOU"?


Mike

Suspect you also were told that there is no relationship between cost and
price except that the price must be greater than the cost......"What the
market will bare" being the operative words.....H

In ,
Pedro Popadopolous whispered softly in my ear...:
Has anyone any idea to help me start negotiating?

Price per acre?

Depending on the circumstances, there may be bigger concerns than price
to negotiate.
We have sold some of our large-ish garden to a neighbour. We did not
need / require such a large garden so, in theory, the sale was a good
idea for both parties. The price agreed was reasonable and was, in fact,
the original offer the neighbour made ( in other words what it was worth
to him and what he could afford) The only negotiating involved was to
satisfy our concerns that , at some future date another neighbour would
sell part of their garden and the combined area would then be big enough
for someone to use as a building plot. Whilst I don't want a big garden,
I don't want a new house at the bottom it. We got round the possibility
by means of a complicated ( but legally binding) agreement which our
neighbour was happy with.

--
Ticketty᧧

.. We got round the possibility
by means of a complicated ( but legally binding) agreement which our
neighbour was happy with.


Yes. The twenty eight people who lived around the large piece of land I
acquired with my house were quite happy that an agreement, 'a covenant to
prevent building', was sitting on the land.

My Solicitor had it removed and there are now two blocks of flats sitting on
it.

Mike

"Mike" wrote in message
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. We got round the possibility
by means of a complicated ( but legally binding) agreement which our
neighbour was happy with.


Yes. The twenty eight people who lived around the large piece of land I
acquired with my house were quite happy that an agreement, 'a covenant to
prevent building', was sitting on the land.

My Solicitor had it removed and there are now two blocks of flats sitting
on
it.

I bet the twenty eight other people who lived there before don't like you
anymore though..

I bet the twenty eight other people who lived there before don't like you
anymore though..


The piece of land was bounded by 28 back gardens, mine included. Just one
property, an end of terrace in the next road, had a wide side garden. The
previous owner to my house had approached the owner and asked if he wanted
to sell the side garden. No.

I did look at the possibility of demolishing my house for access, but as it
was a large detached house and not a financially viable proposition.

I had been in the house nearly four years, when out of the blue, the chappy
in the next road put his house up for sale and on the open market. The first
thing I knew was when the For Sale sign went up. I bought it at the asking
price, separated the side garden off and sold the house. Separated the land
from my house. Sold the land and sold the house I was living in. Planning
department had told me they wanted the small pockets of land within the City
Boundary so planning permission was no problem.

The neighbours appealed against the planning permission and it was thrown
out.

Simplicity in itself was for them to buy the house and land. Separate the
land off and make a small park with a covenant on it to the benefit of ALL
the neighbours. ALL would have had to agree the removal and built on.

Mike

In ,
Mike whispered softly in my ear...:
. We got round the possibility
by means of a complicated ( but legally binding) agreement which our
neighbour was happy with.


Yes. The twenty eight people who lived around the large piece of land
I acquired with my house were quite happy that an agreement, 'a
covenant to prevent building', was sitting on the land.

My Solicitor had it removed and there are now two blocks of flats
sitting on it.

I didn't say it was a covenant, I said it was a legally binding
agreement. ( a contract) .
I am aware that it may be worth any fine for ignoring a convenant , or
paying for it to be removed if the land can be used for building .

--
Ticketty᧧

Mike wrote:
I bet the twenty eight other people who lived there before don't
like you anymore though..


The piece of land was bounded by 28 back gardens, mine included.
Just
one property, an end of terrace in the next road, had a wide side
garden. The previous owner to my house had approached the owner and
asked if he wanted to sell the side garden. No.

I did look at the possibility of demolishing my house for access,
but
as it was a large detached house and not a financially viable
proposition.

I had been in the house nearly four years, when out of the blue,
the
chappy in the next road put his house up for sale and on the open
market. The first thing I knew was when the For Sale sign went up.
I
bought it at the asking price, separated the side garden off and
sold
the house. Separated the land from my house. Sold the land and sold
the house I was living in. Planning department had told me they
wanted the small pockets of land within the City Boundary so
planning
permission was no problem.

The neighbours appealed against the planning permission and it was
thrown out.

Simplicity in itself was for them to buy the house and land.
Separate
the land off and make a small park with a covenant on it to the
benefit of ALL the neighbours. ALL would have had to agree the
removal and built on.

Simplicity itself. 28 people get their organisation and some money
together before one profiteer acting on his own and with a head
start. A definition of "simplicity itself" with which I was
previously unfamiliar. Enjoy being proud of yourself.

I am aware that it may be worth any fine for ignoring a convenant , or
paying for it to be removed if the land can be used for building .


Cost nothing :-))

Simplicity itself. 28 people get their organisation and some money
together before one profiteer acting on his own and with a head
start. A definition of "simplicity itself" with which I was
previously unfamiliar. Enjoy being proud of yourself.



:-)) ?????????????

Funny how they got themselves organised AFTER, please note AFTER I had
contacted the Estate Agent, talked to my Bank for a loan, contacted the
Estate Agent AGAIN, made an offer, (full asking price), instructed the
Solicitor, and the SOLD sign gone up. 5 minutes work on my side?

In the words of the King Net Nanny "I think not"

How long does it take to sell a house up to and including exchange of
contracts? I am selling property, again in Leicester, and it has taken from
mid August to now to get to finalisation stage and the completion date is
due to be October 15th. Don't tell me that something could not have been
done sooner in the case of the property deal to stop me.

No. The people sat back on a message that 'No building on this land' was in
force. WRONG :-))

'Enjoy being proud of yourself' sings out 'You lucky *******, I wish it was
me'

:-))))))))))

Mike

In ,
Mike whispered softly in my ear...:
I am aware that it may be worth any fine for ignoring a convenant ,
or paying for it to be removed if the land can be used for building .


Cost nothing :-))

You have a solicitor who works for free? That is very unusual, it may
not have been itemised on his bill, but I would bet my boots you paid
for it

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Ticketty᧧

"Tickettyboo" wrote in message
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In ,
Mike whispered softly in my ear...:
I am aware that it may be worth any fine for ignoring a convenant ,
or paying for it to be removed if the land can be used for building .


Cost nothing :-))

You have a solicitor who works for free? That is very unusual, it may not
have been itemised on his bill, but I would bet my boots you paid for it

--
Ticketty᧧

Have been around for along while and never heard of any lawyer doing
anything for free when it comes to legal stuff....H

"Tickettyboo" wrote in message
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In ,
Mike whispered softly in my ear...:
I am aware that it may be worth any fine for ignoring a convenant ,
or paying for it to be removed if the land can be used for building .


Cost nothing :-))

You have a solicitor who works for free? That is very unusual, it may
not have been itemised on his bill, but I would bet my boots you paid
for it

--
Ticketty᧧


Sorry, I explained it badly, there was no fee to have the covenant removed
as it was not registered with Land Registry. Yes it would have been in the
Solicitors 'overall' fee and no, you are correct, it was not itemised.

Mike

Pedro Popadopolous wrote in message
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Has anyone any idea to help me start negotiating?

Price per acre?

Thanks



Hi Pedro,

I should think the easiest way to find out would be to approach a local
estate agent. They ought to know local land prices *and* what is legally
involved.

Spider

[quote=Spider]Pedro Popadopolous

Price per acre?

Thanks

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Try http://www.defra.gov.uk/

In article , adm
writes

"Mike" wrote in message
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Yes. The twenty eight people who lived around the large piece of land I
acquired with my house were quite happy that an agreement, 'a covenant to
prevent building', was sitting on the land.

My Solicitor had it removed and there are now two blocks of flats sitting
on
it.

I bet the twenty eight other people who lived there before don't like you
anymore though..


and this from the person that frequently posts about keeping friendly
with his neighbours!

--
regards andyw

"newsb" wrote in message
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In article , adm
writes

"Mike" wrote in message
...

Yes. The twenty eight people who lived around the large piece of land I
acquired with my house were quite happy that an agreement, 'a covenant
to
prevent building', was sitting on the land.

My Solicitor had it removed and there are now two blocks of flats
sitting
on
it.

I bet the twenty eight other people who lived there before don't like you
anymore though..


and this from the person that frequently posts about keeping friendly
with his neighbours!



and?

your point is?

Please explain.




"martin" wrote in message
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On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 11:28:52 +0000 (UTC), "Mike"
wrote:


"newsb" wrote in message
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In article , adm

writes

"Mike" wrote in message
...

Yes. The twenty eight people who lived around the large piece of
land I
acquired with my house were quite happy that an agreement, 'a
covenant
to
prevent building', was sitting on the land.

My Solicitor had it removed and there are now two blocks of flats
sitting
on
it.

I bet the twenty eight other people who lived there before don't like
you
anymore though..


and this from the person that frequently posts about keeping friendly
with his neighbours!



and?

your point is?


It's obvious.
--
Martin