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motorhomes4sale 12-10-2005 08:43 PM

how do I kill worms in my lawn
 
What product can I buy to kill the worms in my lawn ?

I have a lovely lawn but this time of year I get a big problem with worm casts.

batgirl 12-10-2005 09:08 PM

Dear god, what is the matter with you???

"motorhomes4sale" wrote in
message ...

What product can I buy to kill the worms in my lawn ?

I have a lovely lawn but this time of year I get a big problem with
worm casts.


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motorhomes4sale




Robert 12-10-2005 09:29 PM


"motorhomes4sale" wrote in
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:
: What product can I buy to kill the worms in my lawn ?
:
: I have a lovely lawn but this time of year I get a big problem with
: worm casts.

Is this a wind up?!



Robert 12-10-2005 09:33 PM


"motorhomes4sale" wrote in
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: What product can I buy to kill the worms in my lawn ?
:
: I have a lovely lawn but this time of year I get a big problem with
: worm casts.
:
Best idea is to get rid of the lawn



Mike Lyle 12-10-2005 10:27 PM

Robert wrote:
"motorhomes4sale" wrote

in
message ...

What product can I buy to kill the worms in my lawn ?

I have a lovely lawn but this time of year I get a big problem

with
worm casts.

Best idea is to get rid of the lawn


Failing that, just do the normal thing, and walk over the lawn
brushing them out with a birch broom. Or just don't worry about them.
You knock out a link of the garden's food chain at your peril: we've
grown out of that kind of thing.

--
Mike.



Mab 12-10-2005 10:51 PM

personally I'm a big fan of common garden worms and wouldn't want to kill them.

motorhomes4sale 12-10-2005 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mab
personally I'm a big fan of common garden worms and wouldn't want to kill them.




Im not a fan so how should I kill them

shazzbat 12-10-2005 11:00 PM


"batgirl" wrote in message
...
Dear god, what is the matter with you???

"motorhomes4sale" wrote in
message ...

What product can I buy to kill the worms in my lawn ?


We're gardeners.
We like worms.
Worms are our friends.

Steve



Brian 12-10-2005 11:17 PM


"motorhomes4sale" wrote in
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What product can I buy to kill the worms in my lawn ?

I have a lovely lawn but this time of year I get a big problem with
worm casts.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I can't see any good reason for killing worms on/in a family lawn. It's
bad enough that grass sports' managers have to do so for the finest of
grasses. Imagine worm casts on a golf green?!
Unfortunately worm killing is an important part of the sport industry.
Below was pasted from Oxford University's croquet site.
I would not have thought that such a trivial sport demanded such fine
grass.
Best Wishes Brian.


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Worm casts however act as sites for weed growth, blunts the lawn mower and

encourage birds on to the lawn. They can start lifting the turf as they peck
at dark spots on the lawn - creating larger dark spots.
The best time to control worms is during their mating season in
October/November when they are most active near the surface. The effective
old method was to use Chlordane which unfortunately is now banned for use in
this country. The more modern solutions are not so effective.




cineman 12-10-2005 11:25 PM

how cruel and self defeating to boot.
Brush the worm cast's back onto the surface and spread them around.
Worms are doing your job for you creating small tunnels underground
providing lovely friable soil and drainage. What more could one ask of poor
little creatures who provide good soil and breakdown waste vegetation, and
provide wild bird food, not to mention frog food.
And all you want to do is annihilate them ???

regards
Cineman

(why use one word when 40 will do)

"motorhomes4sale" wrote in
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What product can I buy to kill the worms in my lawn ?

I have a lovely lawn but this time of year I get a big problem with
worm casts.


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motorhomes4sale




Mike Lyle 12-10-2005 11:35 PM

cineman wrote:
[...]

The urg messages haven't appearrd on GardenBanter, so we may as well
save our fingers.

--
Mike.



Gary Woods 12-10-2005 11:54 PM

"Mike Lyle" wrote:

The urg messages haven't appearrd on GardenBanter, so we may as well
save our fingers.


Am I the only one reading this thread and thinking "This has _got_ to be a
troll?"
I see something like this once in a while and the OP never participates in
the thread.
In the former North American colonies, the only surviving worms are Costeau
fans...

Cold, drizzly, gloomy.... not going to get much sympathy from the Brits, am
I?


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

Mike Lyle 12-10-2005 11:59 PM

Gary Woods wrote:
"Mike Lyle" wrote:

The urg messages haven't appearrd on GardenBanter, so we may as

well
save our fingers.


Am I the only one reading this thread and thinking "This has _got_

to
be a troll?"
I see something like this once in a while and the OP never
participates in the thread.


Had a look at GardenBanter, and he's just come back, so I think he's
regrettably genuine.

In the former North American colonies, the only surviving worms are
Costeau fans...

Cold, drizzly, gloomy.... not going to get much sympathy from the
Brits, am I?


Nope. But think: you could be in Maine!

--
Mike.
[...]



Cereus-validus....... 13-10-2005 02:20 AM

You don't have to do anything at all, Trailer-trash.

Just let the red red robins come bob bob bobbin' along.

The hungry birds will eat them all up for you.


"motorhomes4sale" wrote in
message ...

What product can I buy to kill the worms in my lawn ?

I have a lovely lawn but this time of year I get a big problem with
worm casts.


--
motorhomes4sale




An Oasis 13-10-2005 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motorhomes4sale
Im not a fan so how should I kill them

I'd suggest 5 - 6 tonnes of tarmac! Failing that how about using paraquat!! Or if these methods fail and you're still stuck import 6,000 chickens, that should do the trick.

Ann Heanes 13-10-2005 09:23 AM

Don't kill them. Use a besom brush & brush the worm casts away but don't
kill the worms, please.
GrannieAnnie
"motorhomes4sale" wrote in
message ...

Mab Wrote:
personally I'm a big fan of common garden worms and wouldn't want to
kill them.





Im not a fan so how should I kill them


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motorhomes4sale




JB 13-10-2005 09:39 AM

On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 19:43:50 +0000, motorhomes4sale
wrote:

What product can I buy to kill the worms in my lawn ?

I have a lovely lawn but this time of year I get a big problem with
worm casts.


Best product to buy would be an inner city flat with no garden!

If you don't like worms then don't have a garden. If you like gardens
then worms are a benefit.


Mike Lyle 13-10-2005 10:38 AM

motorhomes4sale wrote:
Mab Wrote:
personally I'm a big fan of common garden worms and wouldn't want

to
kill them.





Im not a fan so how should I kill them


Maybe it's worth explaining a bit here, mh4s; though I don't know if
uk.rec.gardening messages all get through to GardenBanter.

People often think of soil as just "stuff"; but in fact it's a
complex biological _system_. If we take out one of the parts of the
system, it won't work properly. Earthworms work for the lawn by
eating dead grass blades, and by drilling millions of holes to
promote drainage and oxygenation -- if they aren't doing that, then
we may need to bring in aerating machinery.

They also tempt birds into the garden, which is good news, too.

It's usually easier to get out there with a witches' broom
occasionally than have the hassle of regularly spraying with a worm
killer, and hiring and operating an aerator every so often. Works
better, too.

Enjoy your lawn. If you still want to try to kill them off, the
garden centre should be able to offer something, though I know the
old-fashioned poisons are too dangerous to be sold any more.

--
Mike.



motorhomes4sale 13-10-2005 10:51 AM


How can I brush the worm cast off when this time of the year it is wet, in the summer months its no problem I can do that.
How do they control worms on on Golf course putting greens etc ?

My lawn is only about 15 square metres and I would like to keep it nice. If I can buy something to kill the worms and worm eggs then that will sort out my problem. I can aireate it with a fork so I dont need worms. I am happy for them to live under any ones lawn but not mine.

motorhomes4sale 13-10-2005 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motorhomes4sale
How can I brush the worm cast off when this time of the year it is wet, in the summer months its no problem I can do that.
How do they control worms on on Golf course putting greens etc ?

My lawn is only about 15 square metres and I would like to keep it nice. If I can buy something to kill the worms and worm eggs then that will sort out my problem. I can aireate it with a fork so I dont need worms. I am happy for them to live under any ones lawn but not mine.

If any you worm fans want any of my worms you can have them for free but you must collect.

Paul D.Smith 13-10-2005 02:51 PM

To put it in differently, without the worms your lawn will compact and then
start to hold water. Moss will move in and the grass will die. Your
beautiful lawn will look like a patch of dying mud, which is what it will
be.

Leave the worms alone and if the casts offend you, buy a lawn broom and
spread them around. Failing that the best solution is to give up on the
lawn altogether because without worms it won't be worth the trouble.

Paul DS.



motorhomes4sale 13-10-2005 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul D.Smith
To put it in differently, without the worms your lawn will compact and then
start to hold water. Moss will move in and the grass will die. Your
beautiful lawn will look like a patch of dying mud, which is what it will
be.

Leave the worms alone and if the casts offend you, buy a lawn broom and
spread them around. Failing that the best solution is to give up on the
lawn altogether because without worms it won't be worth the trouble.

Paul DS.

so how do the sports managers keeps bowling greens looking great without worms ?

Alan Holmes 13-10-2005 05:02 PM

how do I kill worms in my lawn
 

"motorhomes4sale" wrote in
message ...

Mab Wrote:
personally I'm a big fan of common garden worms and wouldn't want to
kill them.





Im not a fan so how should I kill them


Lie down on the bed, put a plastic bag over your head, tie it round your
neck, go to sleep!

Alan



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motorhomes4sale




motorhomes4sale 13-10-2005 06:54 PM

Might be better to put the worms in the bag !

Does anyone know if you can still buy Carbaryl, I believe this is the stuff I need to kill them.

motorhomes4sale 13-10-2005 07:03 PM

I think you guys have got me all wrong. I dont want to be a serial worm killer, I just want to get rid of the ones in my nice lawn. I dont mind a few living in my flower borders, there nice worms. I do understand that worms have there use, like bait for fishing.

gentlegreen 13-10-2005 07:32 PM

how do I kill worms in my lawn
 

"motorhomes4sale" wrote in
message ...

Paul D.Smith Wrote:
To put it in differently, without the worms your lawn will compact and
then
start to hold water. Moss will move in and the grass will die. Your
beautiful lawn will look like a patch of dying mud, which is what it
will
be.

Leave the worms alone and if the casts offend you, buy a lawn broom
and
spread them around. Failing that the best solution is to give up on
the
lawn altogether because without worms it won't be worth the trouble.

Paul DS.


so how do the sports managers keeps bowling greens looking great
without worms ?


With a lot of preparation and effort :-

I found this :-

http://www.valebowlingclub.co.uk/bow...aintenance.htm

I'd guess you could apply some of the techniques and approach the effect you
want without slaughtering the gardener's best friend (allowing the worms to
do some of the work)
If you really want purely ornamental rather than useable lawn you'd probably
want to start by re-laying it and choosing finer, slow growing grass
varieties.

Personally I prefer my grasses 2 inches in diameter and 15 feet tall :-)






Tumbleweed 13-10-2005 09:02 PM

how do I kill worms in my lawn
 

"motorhomes4sale" wrote in
message ...

Paul D.Smith Wrote:
To put it in differently, without the worms your lawn will compact and
then
start to hold water. Moss will move in and the grass will die. Your
beautiful lawn will look like a patch of dying mud, which is what it
will
be.

Leave the worms alone and if the casts offend you, buy a lawn broom
and
spread them around. Failing that the best solution is to give up on
the
lawn altogether because without worms it won't be worth the trouble.

Paul DS.


so how do the sports managers keeps bowling greens looking great
without worms ?


easy peasy, by spending a fortune and a lot of time, on aeration, chemicals,
reseeding, etc.

--
Tumbleweed

email replies not necessary but to contact use;
tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com



Blossom 13-10-2005 09:20 PM

Hi

Just think of using a witches broom and exercise on the lawn, what a figure you will have as you sweep away those worm casts..Those worms will wriggle and twist away from you.

Jupiter 13-10-2005 10:27 PM

how do I kill worms in my lawn
 
On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 18:03:29 +0000, motorhomes4sale
wrote:


Alan Holmes Wrote:
"motorhomes4sale" wrote in
message ...

Mab Wrote:
personally I'm a big fan of common garden worms and wouldn't want to
kill them.




Im not a fan so how should I kill them

Lie down on the bed, put a plastic bag over your head, tie it round
your
neck, go to sleep!

Alan



--
motorhomes4sale


I think you guys have got me all wrong. I dont want to be a serial worm
killer, I just want to get rid of the ones in my nice lawn. I dont mind
a few living in my flower borders, there nice worms. I do understand
that worms have there use, like bait for fishing.


Moles are voracious devourers of earthworms. A couple of them would
improve your lawn no end by eating all the worms. Frogs, toads,
robins and blackbirds are also eat worms.


Sacha 13-10-2005 11:07 PM

how do I kill worms in my lawn
 

On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 18:03:29 +0000, motorhomes4sale
wrote:


snip
I do understand
that worms have there use, like bait for fishing.


QED, ladies and gentlemen.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


Dah 13-10-2005 11:32 PM

how do I kill worms in my lawn
 

From Diary of a Mad Gardener

http://www.gardenhumour.com
Carpe rutila

October 8

This is a big day for me. I’m expecting an important shipment this
morning—everything I’ll need to take part in a worm habitat study.

I like worms. In fact, I love worms, and I consider my garden a worm
sanctuary. I provide them with lots of compost, I rescue them from
feathered poachers, and I shun all chemicals. I am a worm activist and
will do anything in my power to defend these poor souls. Why, whenever I
see the toxic chemical tanker on my street, I clench my jaw and frown at
the operator until he hangs his head in shame. I admit it isn’t quite as
effective as glaring, but I had to stop that after he glared back and
pointed his sprayer at my daffodils.

Worms need our help. They perform a crucial role in the ecology of this
planet, yet not only are they sliced and severed daily, their
fundamental rights are trampled upon. The world needs worms! WORMS NEED
OUR PROTECTION! WORMS MUST LIVE! SAVE THE WORMS! Oops, my soapbox is a
bit wobbly.

So, given my position, I felt honoured when I received an email from a
prestigious horticultural college inviting me to participate in an
important environmental research project. I leapt at the chance and
applied immediately. They sent back my preliminary instructions right
away, and I’ve been following them to the letter.

First thing I had to do was collect a number of sample worms in very
specific sizes. I was provided with a long list of precise dimensions—in
millimetres (it would have been a lot easier by the pound). I’m only
partly converted, so I played it safe and measured in feet and inches.

Collecting the worms was easy, especially after all the rain. The
measuring bit was another story—ever tried to measure a worm? They keep
changing size! It was one of the toughest jobs I’ve ever had, but I
managed, even if I had to stretch some of the data to meet the criteria
(gosh I’m even talking like a scientist).
The worms are in the garage now, in a pail of damp peat moss. I’m not
supposed to feed them or it will throw off the experiment, but I must
confess, I felt kinda sorry for them and tossed in the broccoli that one
of the diblets wouldn’t eat at supper.

This is so exciting. To think, yesterday I was running around in the
rain, stark naked, and today, thanks to the World Wide Web, I’m a
budding scientist. And I only had to send them $14.95.

October 9

This is so frustrating. I still haven’t received my lab supplies, which
is bad enough, but one of the diblets assumed the pail of peat moss and
broccoli in the garage was for the compost heap and dumped it for me.
Luckily, I managed to find most of the worms before they got too far,
although I did have a bit of trouble sorting out which worms were my
study worms and which worms were wild ones. I had to turn the compost
pile three times before I tracked them all down. I haven’t bothered
measuring them again as I’m sure I have the right ones. To make certain
it doesn’t happen again I’ve put a sign on the pail—LAB WORMS. I’ve also
emailed the horticultural college and told them to hurry things along;
otherwise I can’t guarantee the accuracy of the experiment—whatever it is.

October 10

Thank goodness! I’ve received my equipment and now I can get on with the
experiment. Of course, I’m only a tiny part of it: there must be
thousands of other contributors all over the country, all opening their
little packages and preparing to begin this amazing study. However, I
must admit I was a bit disappointed when I opened my package. I was
expecting high tech lab equipment and wasn’t impressed with the contents
until I read the little note that was included. It thanked me profusely
for participating and explained how many amazing scientific experiments
are carried out using ordinary everyday household materials. Wow! I
thought. Who’d believe tags from bread bags would be put to this kind of
use—amazing.

The instructions went on to say that my role is crucial to the
experiment. I’m to mark each tag Worm I, Worm 2, etc., then attach one
to each worm—all twenty-seven of them. After I have them tagged—guess
what? I release them. That’s it! I’m tagging and releasing worms. All I
have to do is watch and see if any turn up in my garden next spring,
then file a report to the college. This is so exciting. I’m going to
have a busy Thanksgiving holiday.

October 11

I don’t think I’m cut out to be a scientist. I’m far too sensitive and
don’t have the necessary objectivity to carry out experiments using live
creatures.

Far as I’m concerned the whole thing was doomed from the start. I would
have thought whoever designed this experiment would have had some
familiarity with worms. The bread tags were useless, except on some of
the big ones; the smaller worms were able to squirm out easily. I did
try to improvise by using twist ties to attach the tags. They were far
more effective, except I’m afraid I over-twisted a couple, which was
disconcerting to say the least. It was at this point I began to have
doubts about my participation in what appeared to be a badly planned
experiment. The poor worms looked pathetic, squirming around with tags
trailing behind them. Still, I deposited them around the yard as
instructed, even though my heart was no longer in it.

I’m not sure if I can describe what happened next. It was so horrible.
As soon as I turned the worms loose the poor things tried to crawl back
into the soil, but they couldn’t because of the stupid tags. It was
heartbreaking to watch. There they were, half in the ground and half
out, and the half out was wriggling like crazy.

It gave a whole new meaning to fatal attraction. A flock of birds
spotted them and zoomed in. I yelled at them to stop but it was too
late. I only had time to rescue a handful. It was like seagulls and
spilled fries at the beach. Carnage! I immediately emailed the
horticultural college to complain, but all I got back was a note saying
they’d be happy to provide the results of the study for a further
$14.95. I’ve a good mind to go round and glare at them.

Eyebright 14-10-2005 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motorhomes4sale
What product can I buy to kill the worms in my lawn ?

when i logged on and saw this i thought omg this will get the gang going....and you did nt let me down !!!!

motorhomes4sale 14-10-2005 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eyebright
when i logged on and saw this i thought omg this will get the gang going....and you did nt let me down !!!!

I registered a few days ago to ask this serious question, I thought everybody would be as interested as me in killing the worms in there lawns. The worm casts they produce look a right mess. Several of you are telling me to brush the worm cast out with a broom, but how do you do this when this time of the year they are just wet mud. Am I supposed to dry them out first with a hair dryer and them brush them out. I have managed to remove alot of the worms from my lawn by watering it with water with washing up liquid in it, they always come to the surface when I do this (think the soap gets in there eyes) and I can dispose of them, however I could do this every week and get over a hundred every time. What I need is a product that will kill the worm eggs. I know Carbaryl would do the job but you cant buy it anymore, but I have just found out that dog flea shampoo contains a percentage of carbaryl so im going to try that this week, I know it will bring the worms up the same as washing up liquid and I am hoping the small percentage of carbaryl will kill the worm eggs.
I will let you know if this is a succesful way of getting rid of worms as I am sure some of you may want to try it.

Cereus-validus....... 14-10-2005 03:58 AM

how do I kill worms in my lawn
 
If you think the problem is that bad, you have no choice but to hook up your
old pickup truck to your mobile home and move to another trailer park.

Everybody else has learned to live with the little wrigglers and have gone
fishing!!!


"motorhomes4sale" wrote in
message ...

Eyebright Wrote:
when i logged on and saw this i thought omg this will get the gang
going....and you did nt let me down !!!!


I registered a few days ago to ask this serious question, I thought
everybody would be as interested as me in killing the worms in there
lawns. The worm casts they produce look a right mess. Several of you
are telling me to brush the worm cast out with a broom, but how do you
do this when this time of the year they are just wet mud. Am I supposed
to dry them out first with a hair dryer and them brush them out. I have
managed to remove alot of the worms from my lawn by watering it with
water with washing up liquid in it, they always come to the surface
when I do this (think the soap gets in there eyes) and I can dispose of
them, however I could do this every week and get over a hundred every
time. What I need is a product that will kill the worm eggs. I know
Carbaryl would do the job but you cant buy it anymore, but I have just
found out that dog flea shampoo contains a percentage of carbaryl so im
going to try that this week, I know it will bring the worms up the same
as washing up liquid and I am hoping the small percentage of carbaryl
will kill the worm eggs.
I will let you know if this is a succesful way of getting rid of worms
as I am sure some of you may want to try it.


--
motorhomes4sale




MarkA[_1_] 14-10-2005 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motorhomes4sale
What product can I buy to kill the worms in my lawn ?

I have a lovely lawn but this time of year I get a big problem with worm casts.

I think this will solve your problem once and for all:

http://www.tigerturf.co.uk/home.htm

motorhomes4sale 14-10-2005 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkA
I think this will solve your problem once and for all:

http://www.tigerturf.co.uk/home.htm

Can the worms not come up through this and still make there messy casts on the Astro turf ?
If they cant come up through the artificial turf for a breath of fresh air then surely this would be cruel, now you dont realy want be cruel to worms do you.

MarkA[_1_] 14-10-2005 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motorhomes4sale
Can the worms not come up through this and still make there messy casts on the Astro turf ? .

If that's a serious question, the answer is no; they won't like it under there and they'll move out into your flower beds.

Quote:

Originally Posted by motorhomes4sale
If they cant come up through the artificial turf for a breath of fresh air then surely this would be cruel, now you dont realy want be cruel to worms do you.

er...sorry, wasn't it you who wanted to poison them all?

Neil Muldoon 14-10-2005 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motorhomes4sale
What product can I buy to kill the worms in my lawn ?

I have a lovely lawn but this time of year I get a big problem with worm casts.



dont kill them they do good!

motorhomes4sale 15-10-2005 01:03 PM

I cant believe that our of over 30 replies no one knows how to get rid of these dam worms.

Harold Walker 15-10-2005 03:27 PM

how do I kill worms in my lawn
 

"motorhomes4sale" wrote in
message ...

I cant believe that our of over 30 replies no one knows how to get rid
of these dam worms.

Import a few moles into your garden...that will do the trick




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