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Does anyone know more detail about what happened to the daily BBC2
programme called "The Big Dig" about allotments? What? You've never heard of it? And that's the problem..... I saw it mentioned in the BBC's gardening magazine this month. The start of a daily 1-hour program about growing veg on allotments. Sounded great. I'd already missed the first week or two apparently, but I set the video today to catch it. But when I got home, I discovered that the programme had been replaced, with no explanation anywhere on the BBC website. A bit of digging (ho ho) online revealed a small snippet from the Daily Telegraph reporting that the programme had been taken off-air because of "disappointing ratings". Why were the ratings disappointing? Would it by any chance be because the prog seems to have had no publicity? Would it be that 3:30pm on weekdays isn't a great time in any case? So anyway, I never did get to see the programme and I suppose I never will now. Did anyone else catch it during its brief existence? |
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Does anyone know more detail about what happened to the daily BBC2 programme called "The Big Dig" about allotments? I was also disappointed to discover that it's been taken off air. As you say, 3.30 isn't a great time for it to be on; evening would've been better. I just got an allotment last week so I was really looking forward to watching it and had decided to tackle the mysteries of the vcr so that I could record it! Wasn't the programme only on for 1 week? Nowhere near enough time to attract a following, IMHO, particicularly as I don't even think it had been advertised. |
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wrote.. Does anyone know more detail about what happened to the daily BBC2 programme called "The Big Dig" about allotments? I was also disappointed to discover that it's been taken off air. As you say, 3.30 isn't a great time for it to be on; evening would've been better. I just got an allotment last week so I was really looking forward to watching it and had decided to tackle the mysteries of the vcr so that I could record it! Wasn't the programme only on for 1 week? Nowhere near enough time to attract a following, IMHO, particicularly as I don't even think it had been advertised. We've noted before that the BBC can be funny about gardening. GW's not bad, to be fair, and the Titchmarsh progs are good. But remember their crass coverage of the Chelsea Flower Show. Note the current idiotic venture with Diarmuid -- they didn't even get him to plan it for his money. -- Mike. |
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TBH, I'm normally a great supporter of the BBC, but this decision does
seem very odd. I feel there's more to this than meets the eye, he said conspiratorially.... |
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wrote Does anyone know more detail about what happened to the daily BBC2 programme called "The Big Dig" about allotments? snip Did anyone else catch it during its brief existence? Yes, I caught one programme the other week and then it seemed to disappear. After a few days of its non-reappearance I even looked on Google's archive to see if it'd been talked about in URG and when there wasn't anything there or on the BBC website I began to think I must have imagined it! What a shame if they've given it the permanent chop, it seemed promising and at the very least would be better than endless housebuying programmes. They have so many repeats during the daytime schedule, surely there's a place for something different. -- Sue |
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On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 23:05:55 +0100, Mike & friends wrote:
you say, 3.30 isn't a great time for it to be on; evening would've been better Even for those of us that have the luxury(?) of being home at that time are probably out in the garden ! ( unless it is deep&crisp &even,, but not now! ) We've noted before that the BBC can be funny Yep, gone really strange and down-hill since I left them if only they would stop all those pseudo-adds for cr*&p american cartoons ( and many other things) they might have room for telling us about their other interesting programmes. But perhaps even they know that all the other stuff is even less interesting, and that with mates acomplices and others in fora like this we already know more than the beeb can tell us about gardening ? about gardening. GW's not bad, to be fair, true.M.Don is doing a good job ( but not as good as he would like if given his own way, and another1/2hr, I think ) and the Titchmarsh progs are good. Thou jest ? |
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"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message ... The message .com from contains these words: Why were the ratings disappointing? Missed it. Just a guess, but probably, some crazed maverick at the BBC foolishly made a programme with some real gardeners in it, spending a quiet afternoon down the lotty in non-designer wellies. With no camera gimmicks, celebrities or interactive voting opportunities, it was bound to fail. Janet I'm assuming the welsh geezer named Terry is the same Terry who is the allotment holder featured on Jeremy Vine's programme on Radio 2, can anybody confirm or deny? Steve |
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WaltA wrote:
[...] and the Titchmarsh progs are good. Thou jest ? Nay, gentle Walt, verily I jest not. Master Titchmarsh pleaseth me well when allowed to do his own thing. I very much liked, e.g., his royal gardens series. And I liked the hint of a smirk when he did a very neat whip-and-tongue graft on screen -- he seemed to be thinking "...and take that, all you who despise telly gardeners!" I don't mean the make-over trash, which he wisely quit; though even that made more sense when he was in charge. -- Mike. |
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from Janet Baraclough contains these words: The message .com from contains these words: Why were the ratings disappointing? Missed it. Just a guess, but probably, some crazed maverick at the BBC foolishly made a programme with some real gardeners in it, spending a quiet afternoon down the lotty in non-designer wellies. With no camera gimmicks, celebrities or interactive voting opportunities, it was bound to fail. Ah, I see those cynic seeds came up... -- Rusty horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co full-stop uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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wrote in message oups.com... Does anyone know more detail about what happened to the daily BBC2 programme called "The Big Dig" about allotments? What? You've never heard of it? And that's the problem..... I saw it mentioned in the BBC's gardening magazine this month. The start of a daily 1-hour program about growing veg on allotments. Sounded great. I'd already missed the first week or two apparently, but I set the video today to catch it. But when I got home, I discovered that the programme had been replaced, with no explanation anywhere on the BBC website. A bit of digging (ho ho) online revealed a small snippet from the Daily Telegraph reporting that the programme had been taken off-air because of "disappointing ratings". Why were the ratings disappointing? Would it by any chance be because the prog seems to have had no publicity? Would it be that 3:30pm on weekdays isn't a great time in any case? So anyway, I never did get to see the programme and I suppose I never will now. Did anyone else catch it during its brief existence? I saw one and was going to tape the rest..........won't be happening now It was rather good - very down to earth (no pun intended!) Did anyone tape the episode about sheds? Jenny |
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from martin contains these words: On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 00:12:19 +0100, Janet Baraclough wrote: The message .com from contains these words: Why were the ratings disappointing? Missed it. Just a guess, but probably, some crazed maverick at the BBC foolishly made a programme with some real gardeners in it, spending a quiet afternoon down the lotty in non-designer wellies. With no camera gimmicks, celebrities or interactive voting opportunities, it was bound to fail. Was it shot on EE's Arfer's allotment? *BANG!* Drat! That damn peasant again... -- Rusty horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co full-stop uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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from martin contains these words: Cold, nasty, drizzly here in the northeastern U.S. today. Good day to stay indoors and scheme for spring! I'll trade 70 MPH winds in an abnormally mild Zuid Holland. 20degC forecast for tomorrow. Don't be too quick to trade - there's a hurricane moving up that way innit. -- Rusty horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co full-stop uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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Janet Baraclough wrote:
The message .com from contains these words: Why were the ratings disappointing? Missed it. Just a guess, but probably, some crazed maverick at the BBC foolishly made a programme with some real gardeners in it, spending a quiet afternoon down the lotty in non-designer wellies. With no camera gimmicks, celebrities or interactive voting opportunities, it was bound to fail. Janet Serves them right for doing something right! They could have at least tried those awful jolting sweeps and zooms of the five-year old on his first "OB", then frame the person so half their head is off the edge of frame. Couldn't they have put several plants of differing types together in a greenhouse then vote one out each week ? Richard. |
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from Jaques d'Alltrades contains these words: Ah, I see those cynic seeds came up... Back to your kennel, or you'll get no bones :-) Janet |
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Janet Baraclough wrote:
The message from Jaques d'Alltrades contains these words: Ah, I see those cynic seeds came up... Back to your kennel, or you'll get no bones :-) You're a barrel of laughs today! -- Mike. |
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from "JennyC" contains these words: Did anyone tape the episode about sheds? Aha, so there was a good reason for cancelling the rest of the series. Janet |
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from "Mike Lyle" contains these words: Janet Baraclough wrote: The message from Jaques d'Alltrades contains these words: Ah, I see those cynic seeds came up... Back to your kennel, or you'll get no bones :-) You're a barrel of laughs today! Don't belittle barrels. -- Diogenes |
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Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
The message from "Mike Lyle" contains these words: Janet Baraclough wrote: The message from Jaques d'Alltrades contains these words: Ah, I see those cynic seeds came up... Back to your kennel, or you'll get no bones :-) You're a barrel of laughs today! Don't belittle barrels. Wouldn't dream of it; but you need bottle to tell Alexander the Great to get out of the light. -- Mike. |
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from "Mike Lyle" contains these words: Janet Baraclough wrote: The message from Jaques d'Alltrades contains these words: Ah, I see those cynic seeds came up... Back to your kennel, or you'll get no bones :-) You're a barrel of laughs today! Pooh... Janet |
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from "Mike Lyle" contains these words: Jaques d'Alltrades wrote: The message from "Mike Lyle" contains these words: Janet Baraclough wrote: The message from Jaques d'Alltrades contains these words: Ah, I see those cynic seeds came up... Back to your kennel, or you'll get no bones :-) You're a barrel of laughs today! Don't belittle barrels. Wouldn't dream of it; but you need bottle to tell Alexander the Great to get out of the light. That story will dog his reputation till the end of time. -- Rusty horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co full-stop uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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from Janet Baraclough contains these words: The message from "JennyC" contains these words: Did anyone tape the episode about sheds? Aha, so there was a good reason for cancelling the rest of the series. That's fighting talk! Sink-plungers at dawn! -- Rusty horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co full-stop uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
The message from "Mike Lyle" contains these words: Jaques d'Alltrades wrote: The message from "Mike Lyle" contains these words: Janet Baraclough wrote: The message from Jaques d'Alltrades contains these words: Ah, I see those cynic seeds came up... Back to your kennel, or you'll get no bones :-) You're a barrel of laughs today! Don't belittle barrels. Wouldn't dream of it; but you need bottle to tell Alexander the Great to get out of the light. That story will dog his reputation till the end of time. I doubt if he'd bitch about that. -- Mike. |
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from martin contains these words: On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 12:26:47 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades wrote: The message from Janet Baraclough contains these words: The message from "JennyC" contains these words: Did anyone tape the episode about sheds? Aha, so there was a good reason for cancelling the rest of the series. That's fighting talk! Sink-plungers at dawn! After the water shed? Not a lot of point using sink plungers if the water is already shed. -- Rusty horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co full-stop uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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wrote in message oups.com... : Does anyone know more detail about what happened to the daily BBC2 : programme called "The Big Dig" about allotments? : : Did anyone else catch it during its brief existence? : Yes I have written to the BBC on email to ask why it wasn't on as advertised this week |
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On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 13:13:28 +0100, "Mike Lyle" wrote:
WaltA wrote: [...] and the Titchmarsh progs are good. Thou jest ? Nay, gentle Walt, verily I jest not. Master Titchmarsh pleaseth me lol! well that's ok then :) well when allowed to do his own thing. I very much liked, e.g., his royal gardens series. And I liked the hint of a smirk He does do the smirk very well, I grant you. Titch was (is) good in Kew, but he should have stayed there ! We dont all have Kew in our back gardens. I don't mean the make-over trash, which he wisely quit; though even that made more sense when he was in charge. very true, but I have the feeling he quit more from his own exasperation than from a duty to us ! praps it is just that I liked JeffH* better than Titch who seemed to expect the mantle to be cast down to (upon) him * more down to earth, practical like, more about what some of us potter about with in our own patch, MontyD inherits more of that than Titch ( -with his airs&graces) sorry, each to his own, and I'm not omnipotent. ;-), (yet) just my thruppenceworth |
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"WaltA" wrote in message ... On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 13:13:28 +0100, "Mike Lyle" wrote: WaltA wrote: [...] praps it is just that I liked JeffH* better than Titch who seemed to expect the mantle to be cast down to (upon) him * more down to earth, practical like, more about what some of us potter about with in our own patch, MontyD inherits more of that than Titch ( -with his airs&graces) I think its something to do with voices. AlanT has an irritating one GeoffH's was warm and earthy and of course MontyyD's is pure sex :~)) Jenny |
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and of course MontyyD's is pure sex :~)) What, its not April the first is it, you must be joking :-) |
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"Kate Morgan" wrote [JennyC]: and of course MontyyD's is pure sex :~)) What, its not April the first is it, you must be joking :-) I agree with Jenny! :-} -- Sue |
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"Sue" wrote
and of course MontyyD's is pure sex :~)) What, its not April the first is it, you must be joking :-) I agree with Jenny! :-} Ditto ! |
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"Sue" wrote
and of course MontyyD's is pure sex :~)) What, its not April the first is it, you must be joking :-) I agree with Jenny! :-} Ditto ! Oh well I am in the minority, I can live with that :-)) |
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On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 12:11:45 +0200, "JennyC" wrote:
WaltA praps it is just that I liked JeffH* better than Titch who seemed to expect the mantle to be cast down to (upon) him * more down to earth, practical like, more about what some of us potter about with in our own patch, MontyD inherits more of that than Titch ( -with his airs&graces) I think its something to do with voices. AlanT has an irritating one Yes, and is it my imagination or does he 'play to' his accent ? GeoffH's was warm and earthy Yes :) and of course MontyyD's is pure sex :~)) I couldn't possibly comment :-)) |
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In article , WaltA
writes On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 12:11:45 +0200, "JennyC" wrote: WaltA praps it is just that I liked JeffH* better than Titch who seemed to expect the mantle to be cast down to (upon) him * more down to earth, practical like, more about what some of us potter about with in our own patch, MontyD inherits more of that than Titch ( -with his airs&graces) I think its something to do with voices. AlanT has an irritating one Yes, and is it my imagination or does he 'play to' his accent ? Does he have an accent? -- Kay "Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river" |
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from Kay contains these words: Does he have an accent? Everyone (who speaks) has an accent. -- Rusty horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co full-stop uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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In article , Jaques
d'Alltrades writes The message from Kay contains these words: Does he have an accent? Everyone (who speaks) has an accent. sigh Does he have an accent which is sufficiently distinctive for the possibility of 'playing to his accent' to arise? -- Kay "Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river" |
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from Kay contains these words: In article , Jaques d'Alltrades writes The message from Kay contains these words: Does he have an accent? Everyone (who speaks) has an accent. sigh Does he have an accent which is sufficiently distinctive for the possibility of 'playing to his accent' to arise? (unclosed tab alert!) I expect so - for some. However, never having heard the person in question, I have no idea who might find the accent noteworthy. In any case, it's very often the timbre of the voice and its non-standard inflections which stand out... -- Rusty horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co full-stop uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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In article , Sacha
writes I don't know that he plays to it but he certainly has a slight Yorkshire accent, yes. thanks :-) Surrounded by Yorkshire accents as I am, I can no longer recognise them! - just sounds like normal to me. I think he does play to the camera but that is all part of his engaging his audience. Whatever one may think of Ground Force etc., AT is extremely good at making his audience feel he is talking directly to each one of them as individuals. Speak for yourself ;-) That technique of 'confidential' asides to camera make me cringe. One thing I do like about him is that he appears to dislike that ridiculously contrived joshing around the presenters do on e.g. The Chelsea Flower Show. You mean, like the 'arguments' between him and the handyman guy on Ground Force? ;-) -- Kay "Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river" |
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On 30/10/05 14:26, in article , "Kay"
wrote: In article , Sacha writes I don't know that he plays to it but he certainly has a slight Yorkshire accent, yes. thanks :-) Surrounded by Yorkshire accents as I am, I can no longer recognise them! - just sounds like normal to me. I thought that might be what was happening! I think he does play to the camera but that is all part of his engaging his audience. Whatever one may think of Ground Force etc., AT is extremely good at making his audience feel he is talking directly to each one of them as individuals. Speak for yourself ;-) That technique of 'confidential' asides to camera make me cringe. I don't mean those and I hate them, too. I think that style of telly presenting is patronising. I mean really more his manner when he is doing his 'sensible but friendly' bit of giving information. One thing I do like about him is that he appears to dislike that ridiculously contrived joshing around the presenters do on e.g. The Chelsea Flower Show. You mean, like the 'arguments' between him and the handyman guy on Ground Force? ;-) 'fraid so. Apparently the directors of these programmes like this sort of thing and insist on it. I really hope the presentation of Chelsea concentrates on the gardens and the planting this year and not some out-reach vegetable project in County Wherever or the colour of the tie AT or DG are - or aren't - wearing. And if anyone 'out there' is reading this for Gawd's sake put the names of the plants up on the blasted screen so that people who are interested in PLANTS find out what they are! I'm beginning to think urg should stage a mass demo outside the Beeb this year if they don't get it right! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the weeds to email me) |
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