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Has anyone tried the products from: http://www.livingsoil.co.uk/# One
of the people on the estate was talking about them the other day, but hadn't had a chance to give it a proper try. If it works then I might give it a go, but I don't want to waste the cash and time if it's a load of rubbish. -- Pete The Gardener A room without books is like a body without a soul. |
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I suggest you stick to good old fashioned Compost with liberall dashings of
Sulphate of ammonia and urine thrown in plus a shoveful of worms later "Pete The Gardener" wrote in message ... Has anyone tried the products from: http://www.livingsoil.co.uk/# One of the people on the estate was talking about them the other day, but hadn't had a chance to give it a proper try. If it works then I might give it a go, but I don't want to waste the cash and time if it's a load of rubbish. -- Pete The Gardener A room without books is like a body without a soul. |
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On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 19:34:33 +0000 (UTC), "bnd777"
wrote: "Pete The Gardener" wrote in message ... Has anyone tried the products from: http://www.livingsoil.co.uk/# One of the people on the estate was talking about them the other day, but hadn't had a chance to give it a proper try. If it works then I might give it a go, but I don't want to waste the cash and time if it's a load of rubbish. I suggest you stick to good old fashioned Compost with liberall dashings of Sulphate of ammonia and urine thrown in plus a shoveful of worms later Top Posting re-arranged for ease of reading. I'm not at all sure I fancy a standard compost heap (particularly using urine) in my kitchen;-) This thing is for composting kitchen waste, even bones apparently. -- Pete The Gardener A room without books is like a body without a soul. |
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"Pete The Gardener" wrote in message ... On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 19:34:33 +0000 (UTC), "bnd777" wrote: snip Top Posting re-arranged for ease of reading. Illogical moan on......... Now I know that bottom posting is more correct and usually easier to follow but one thing that annoys me slightly is when I find someone rearranging someone else's post. Top posting may be technically incorrect but we wouldn't all go and amend the grammar or spelling of other posts, would we? ......Illogical moan off Victor |
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Actually I find bottom posting blasted annoying
If you bother to follow a thread you simply read the follow up instead of rereading all the garbage If Pete had said he wanted a composter in his kitchen the answer might be different however beats me what "bug" would also decompose bones "Victor West" wrote in message ... "Pete The Gardener" wrote in message ... On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 19:34:33 +0000 (UTC), "bnd777" wrote: snip Top Posting re-arranged for ease of reading. Illogical moan on......... Now I know that bottom posting is more correct and usually easier to follow but one thing that annoys me slightly is when I find someone rearranging someone else's post. Top posting may be technically incorrect but we wouldn't all go and amend the grammar or spelling of other posts, would we? .....Illogical moan off Victor |
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In article ,
Victor West wrote: "Pete The Gardener" wrote in message ... On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 19:34:33 +0000 (UTC), "bnd777" wrote: Top Posting re-arranged for ease of reading. Illogical moan on......... Now I know that bottom posting is more correct and usually easier to follow but one thing that annoys me slightly is when I find someone rearranging someone else's post. Top posting may be technically incorrect but we wouldn't all go and amend the grammar or spelling of other posts, would we? .....Illogical moan off Have you ever tried to read a posting with a history of 10-20 long, with a mixture of top and bottom posting? I can assure you that the only practical solution is to rearrange it! Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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The message
from "Victor West" contains these words: "Pete The Gardener" wrote in message ... On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 19:34:33 +0000 (UTC), "bnd777" wrote: snip Top Posting re-arranged for ease of reading. Illogical moan on......... Now I know that bottom posting is more correct and usually easier to follow but one thing that annoys me slightly is when I find someone rearranging someone else's post. Top posting may be technically incorrect but we wouldn't all go and amend the grammar or spelling of other posts, would we? .....Illogical moan off I would. I even sort out line wraps. -- AnneJ ICQ #:- 119531282 |
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Hi Pete,
I can't find this web site at all! However, if you have some further info I would be interested. It always annoys me to have to put waste meat scraps and bones in the bin when they are highly bidegradable. (Although not suitable for a home garden compost heap). Sarah On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 18:50:58 +0000, Pete The Gardener wrote: Has anyone tried the products from: http://www.livingsoil.co.uk/# One of the people on the estate was talking about them the other day, but hadn't had a chance to give it a proper try. If it works then I might give it a go, but I don't want to waste the cash and time if it's a load of rubbish. |
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A layer of vegetation etc, a layer of soil, a sprinkling of lime, then
repeat the process. No smell, excellent compost. No top post, no bottom post , just plain post :0) -- Rog http://www.geocities.com/rogerscyberhome |
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Bones and scaps etc are fine in a worm bin though ......although the bones
dont disintegrate they are just picked clean "Sarah Dale" wrote in message o.uk... Hi Pete, I can't find this web site at all! However, if you have some further info I would be interested. It always annoys me to have to put waste meat scraps and bones in the bin when they are highly bidegradable. (Although not suitable for a home garden compost heap). Sarah On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 18:50:58 +0000, Pete The Gardener wrote: Has anyone tried the products from: http://www.livingsoil.co.uk/# One of the people on the estate was talking about them the other day, but hadn't had a chance to give it a proper try. If it works then I might give it a go, but I don't want to waste the cash and time if it's a load of rubbish. |
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In article , "Sarah Dale" writes: | | I can't find this web site at all! However, if you have some further info | I would be interested. It always annoys me to have to put waste meat | scraps and bones in the bin when they are highly bidegradable. (Although | not suitable for a home garden compost heap). Why not? I have composted them for 25 years with no problems. Others have done so for longer. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message ... In article , "Sarah Dale" writes: | | I can't find this web site at all! However, if you have some further info | I would be interested. It always annoys me to have to put waste meat | scraps and bones in the bin when they are highly bidegradable. (Although | not suitable for a home garden compost heap). Why not? I have composted them for 25 years with no problems. Others have done so for longer. Do you live in town or country? In town putting meat on the compost bin is an open invitation to foxes and rats. pk |
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In article , "Paul Kelly" writes: | | Do you live in town or country? | | In town putting meat on the compost bin is an open invitation | to foxes and rats. Suburbs. There are both in the vicinity, and I believe that both visit the garden regularly. It is an old wife's tale that putting meat scraps or bones on the compost heap attracts rats (or even foxes) any more than anything else does. I don't know whether putting whole joints on would, as it is not something that we do! Note that there is a similar old wife's tale that is more common in the USA but still appears here, where it is putting cooked food on the heap that attracts rats. I have even heard the variant that it is putting uncooked vegetables that does, so now we have covered all bases :-) Unless you run a VERY wasteful kitchen, then just heaving all kitchen waste on the heap is usually fine. I can believe that the occasional rat or fox will be attracted by certain foods, and obviously meat scraps are one of the more likely, but it is rare. This is not just my experience, either, but has been told to me by several rat-catchers (sorry, pest control operatives). Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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"Victoria Clare" wrote in message (Yes, I know I could have made a pie. It was a busy week and I find preparing rabbit from scratch very tedious. Skinning takes forever and all those little bones!) I am very lucky:)) My SO shoots and always cleans the kill in the field:)) He says it is food for the other wild things there and no mess at home O |
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Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article , "Sarah Dale" writes: I can't find this web site at all! However, if you have some further info I would be interested. It always annoys me to have to put waste meat scraps and bones in the bin when they are highly bidegradable. (Although not suitable for a home garden compost heap). Why not? I have composted them for 25 years with no problems. Others have done so for longer. Seems an excessively long time to wait for compost ;o) -- William Tasso |
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In article , "William Tasso" writes: | Nick Maclaren wrote: | In article , | "Sarah Dale" writes: | | I can't find this web site at all! However, if you have some | further info I would be interested. It always annoys me to have to | put waste meat scraps and bones in the bin when they are highly | bidegradable. (Although not suitable for a home garden compost | heap). | | Why not? I have composted them for 25 years with no problems. | Others have done so for longer. | | Seems an excessively long time to wait for compost ;o) Nice one! Admittedly, beef leg bones to take getting on for that long to break down :-) Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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On Mon, 31 Mar 2003 07:17:59 +0000, Nick Maclaren wrote:
| I can't find this web site at all! However, if you have some further info | I would be interested. It always annoys me to have to put waste meat | scraps and bones in the bin when they are highly bidegradable. (Although Why not? I have composted them for 25 years with no problems. Others have done so for longer. Well, I can't put in chicken or other light bones in case the cats get at it. But you raise an interesting point in one of your other responses to this thread. So many people on URG have said don't put meat or bones on the heap because it attracts rats - you're saying that it doesn't make any difference. In my household, all vegetable based scraps - cooked and uncooked go on my (cold heap, sarah-rigged wooden containers, open topped) compost heap, as do all prunings and garden waste. All meat bones and inedible bits (skin, gristle etc.) are binned. All the meat is eaten. I'm willing to have a go by putting in big bones, gristle and skin - what sort of decomposition rate should I expect based on the fact I run a cold heap? And possibly I would need to look at putting some sort of lid on the heap perhaps... Mind you given that the compost bins are starting to need rebuilding (PLEASE wait to Autumn!) that could be interesting! Sarah |
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In article ,
Sarah Dale wrote: Well, I can't put in chicken or other light bones in case the cats get at it. But you raise an interesting point in one of your other responses to this thread. So many people on URG have said don't put meat or bones on the heap because it attracts rats - you're saying that it doesn't make any difference. In general, it doesn't. That doesn't mean it never will. I don't keep cats, but I agree that they raid the heap - the only solution there is to cover the bones, because cats won't dig far. In my household, all vegetable based scraps - cooked and uncooked go on my (cold heap, sarah-rigged wooden containers, open topped) compost heap, as do all prunings and garden waste. All meat bones and inedible bits (skin, gristle etc.) are binned. All the meat is eaten. I'm willing to have a go by putting in big bones, gristle and skin - what sort of decomposition rate should I expect based on the fact I run a cold heap? And possibly I would need to look at putting some sort of lid on the heap perhaps... Mind you given that the compost bins are starting to need rebuilding (PLEASE wait to Autumn!) that could be interesting! I run a cold heap, too. I find that most chicken bones go by the time I use the compost (12-18 months), but leg bones that dry out need to go round again. Large mammal bones are a bit more durable, and beef leg bones can take a decade! But there isn't a problem, as all the decomposable matter has gone within a month or so, inside the bone and out, and the stray bones are 'clean'. My wife isn't een on them in the flowerbeds, but that is really the only issue :-) There is no long-term accumulation, even of the heaviest bones. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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from "Sarah Dale" contains these words: In my household, all vegetable based scraps - cooked and uncooked go on my (cold heap, sarah-rigged wooden containers, open topped) compost heap, as do all prunings and garden waste. All meat bones and inedible bits (skin, gristle etc.) are binned. All the meat is eaten. Same here... what is it with these households that throw out uneaten meat? :-) When I've finished with a chicken, there is a cupful of bare clean bones left; absolutely nothing else. I'm willing to have a go by putting in big bones, gristle and skin - what sort of decomposition rate should I expect based on the fact I run a cold heap? And possibly I would need to look at putting some sort of lid on the heap perhaps... Mind you given that the compost bins are starting to need rebuilding (PLEASE wait to Autumn!) that could be interesting! I think it's more beneficial to plants, to bury bones beneath them when making a planting hole. Think of it as longterm bonemeal. Janet. |
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Victoria Clare wrote:
[-] The one thing I have found attracts rats is fresh grains in rabbit or guinea-pig food. They really like that, and will hang around to get it. Birdfood. My very large feeder was (very briefly) sited where the wind caught it, knocking it against a branch. This spilt a feeder-full (several litres) of seed on the ground while we were away for a fortnight. When I returned I found a rat's castle beneath the paving slabs under the feeder. regards sarah -- "Great is truth, but still greater, from a practical point of view, is silence about truth." Aldous Huxley |
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On Sun, 30 Mar 2003 20:07:30 +0100, "Sarah Dale"
wrote: Hi Pete, I can't find this web site at all! Nor can I now! It could be that their server is down, though it seems to be quite a long time, or perhaps they've had to withdraw it due to it being rubbish. However, if you have some further info I would be interested. It always annoys me to have to put waste meat scraps and bones in the bin when they are highly bidegradable. (Although not suitable for a home garden compost heap). The leaflet I've got gives 2 phone numbers if you want to try them, either 01556 650116 or mobile 07754 401381. There's no snailmail addy. -- Pete The Gardener A room without books is like a body without a soul. |
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On Mon, 31 Mar 2003 22:12:52 +0100, Janet Baraclough wrote:
I think it's more beneficial to plants, to bury bones beneath them when making a planting hole. Think of it as longterm bonemeal. Very true Janet - but given that I think I've finished moving shrubs in this garden I may end up with a surfiet of bones waiting for a hole.... Sarah |
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Its even worse in the Rural areas ......Rats will climb into any compost
bins even when they only contain grass and shreddings "Paul Kelly" wrote in message ... "Nick Maclaren" wrote in message ... In article , "Sarah Dale" writes: | | I can't find this web site at all! However, if you have some further info | I would be interested. It always annoys me to have to put waste meat | scraps and bones in the bin when they are highly bidegradable. (Although | not suitable for a home garden compost heap). Why not? I have composted them for 25 years with no problems. Others have done so for longer. Do you live in town or country? In town putting meat on the compost bin is an open invitation to foxes and rats. pk |
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sarah .........just start a worm bin and put the bones and scraps in that
.........no rats have ever got into my converted dustbins /wormeries "Sarah Dale" wrote in message o.uk... On Mon, 31 Mar 2003 07:17:59 +0000, Nick Maclaren wrote: | I can't find this web site at all! However, if you have some further info | I would be interested. It always annoys me to have to put waste meat | scraps and bones in the bin when they are highly bidegradable. (Although Why not? I have composted them for 25 years with no problems. Others have done so for longer. Well, I can't put in chicken or other light bones in case the cats get at it. But you raise an interesting point in one of your other responses to this thread. So many people on URG have said don't put meat or bones on the heap because it attracts rats - you're saying that it doesn't make any difference. In my household, all vegetable based scraps - cooked and uncooked go on my (cold heap, sarah-rigged wooden containers, open topped) compost heap, as do all prunings and garden waste. All meat bones and inedible bits (skin, gristle etc.) are binned. All the meat is eaten. I'm willing to have a go by putting in big bones, gristle and skin - what sort of decomposition rate should I expect based on the fact I run a cold heap? And possibly I would need to look at putting some sort of lid on the heap perhaps... Mind you given that the compost bins are starting to need rebuilding (PLEASE wait to Autumn!) that could be interesting! Sarah |
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" I can't find this web site at all! Nor can I now! It could be that their server is down, though it seems to be quite a long time, or perhaps they've had to withdraw it due to it being rubbish. Their site is up and running again. I think it was down whilst it was getting a makeover! Natalie |
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On Thu, 3 Apr 2003 08:04:21 +0100, "Natalie"
wrote: Their site is up and running again. I think it was down whilst it was getting a makeover! Or putting the price up:-( It was 34.99 the other day. So what do you think, I'm still in 2 minds about trying it because I can't see how it would work so quickly. -- Pete The Gardener A room without books is like a body without a soul. |
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"Pete The Gardener" wrote in message ... On Thu, 3 Apr 2003 08:04:21 +0100, "Natalie" wrote: Their site is up and running again. I think it was down whilst it was getting a makeover! Or putting the price up:-( It was 34.99 the other day. So what do you think, I'm still in 2 minds about trying it because I can't see how it would work so quickly. -- Pete The Gardener A room without books is like a body without a soul. I find it very hard to believe that it will make useable compost in just 2 weeks. In fact instructions say you have to bury the fermented waste! I think I'll stick to the compost heap and wormery for now. I'm going to make two compost towers, out of plastic bottles, tomorrow with my Environment Club at school. One with and without worms.... Natalie |
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"bnd777" wrote in message ... Its even worse in the Rural areas ......Rats will climb into any compost bins even when they only contain grass and shreddings What is worse in rural areas? Alan -- Reply to alan(at)windsor-berks(dot)freeserve(dot)co(dot)uk |
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