Name of boundary method
Apparently seen in Romania. Place a row of small stakes (1.2m high from
ground X 1.5 to 2m apart), Then add a similar adjacent row around 40-50cm away (parallel) but placing posts between the previous row. Fill the space in between with you prunings until compact barrier is formed. Does this type of thing have a name? Was it built by our ancestors (I have a vague feeling of having encountered it before)? What creatures may benefit. How long will it last? As it decomposes, which plants best thrive... is weeding a problem? Thanks. |
Name of boundary method
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a.c. wrote: Apparently seen in Romania. Place a row of small stakes (1.2m high from ground X 1.5 to 2m apart), Then add a similar adjacent row around 40-50cm away (parallel) but placing posts between the previous row. Fill the space in between with you prunings until compact barrier is formed. Does this type of thing have a name? Was it built by our ancestors (I have a vague feeling of having encountered it before)? What creatures may benefit. How long will it last? As it decomposes, which plants best thrive... is weeding a problem? I have seen it done, and have never been to Roumania. Ecologically, anything that lives in litter will benefit, and a lot of things that depend on those. The time it will last will depend on what you are pruning and using for the stakes - yew will last for ages, apple for not very long. Many plants will grow on it, especially if a bit of soil is added on top - especially those that like humus and drainage. Weeding is a problem anywhere plants will thrive :-) Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
Name of boundary method
-- Jenny (Rotterdam the Netherlands) remove the squirrel to reply "a.c." wrote in message ps.com... Apparently seen in Romania. Place a row of small stakes (1.2m high from ground X 1.5 to 2m apart), Then add a similar adjacent row around 40-50cm away (parallel) but placing posts between the previous row. Fill the space in between with you prunings until compact barrier is formed. Does this type of thing have a name? Was it built by our ancestors (I have a vague feeling of having encountered it before)? What creatures may benefit. How long will it last? As it decomposes, which plants best thrive... is weeding a problem? Thanks. We live on a private road and the residents association decided to use prunings from the trees to make something similar at the end of the road. These are sometimes quite large branches and they make a nice natural boundary. the wood does not seem to rot down too fast and makes a great habitat for birds, insects, frogs, hedgehogs etc. Even if it does rot down it will probably be bound together by then with roots from the plants that settle there. I know what it's called in Dutch (houtwallen) but the translation into 'rampart's does not seem to fit ............ Martin are you out there? Jenny |
Name of boundary method
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from "JennyC" contains these words: I know what it's called in Dutch (houtwallen) but the translation into 'rampart's does not seem to fit ............ Martin are you out there? Wooden walls Shirley? There *IS* a name for it, and IIRC it was used extensively by Iron Age people. thinks What are those wire cages full of stones/rocks called? -- Rusty Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk Separator in search of a sig |
Name of boundary method
Rusty Hinge 2 wrote: The message from "JennyC" contains these words: I know what it's called in Dutch (houtwallen) but the translation into 'rampart's does not seem to fit ............ Martin are you out there? Wooden walls Shirley? There *IS* a name for it, and IIRC it was used extensively by Iron Age people. I to have a vague recollection of seeing something like that regarding a historical site. I asked for the name here (Belgium) and was given Houtmuur, (Wood wall) Jenny's post reminds me that the one I've seen was mainly constructed using tree prunnings, or that of large shrubs and does look surprisingly nice. In the case of the shrub cuttings, these were already in tight bundles, but the tree material wasn't, not that it would matter because by it's nature, had they being bundled, the bundles would have being too open. Larger branches were used as posts, lesser, yet still quite woody material was place at the bottom and other similar branches had to be shoved in, through, around and under previous ones to minimise gaps and holes in the fence/barrier. This caused some of those branches to stick up in the air at about 45 degrees and so the woodier bits were cut off and repositioned so that when it came to lighter material being placed above, there would not be enough woodiness to prevent the lighter material from pushing down the previous layer. I spent quite some time trying to identify this fence/ boundary type, I searched using words; branch, natural, trees, fence, recycle, boundary, iron age, but to no avail. Anyone got any baetter ideas on how to find this. (Also used wikipedia dictionary) thinks What are those wire cages full of stones/rocks called? -- Rusty Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk Separator in search of a sig |
Name of boundary method
On 18/2/06 20:05, in article , "Bob Hobden"
wrote: "Rusty Hinge 2" wrote There *IS* a name for it, and IIRC it was used extensively by Iron Age people. thinks What are those wire cages full of stones/rocks called? Gabions? Aren't those metal baskets filled with stones? -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon ) |
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from "Bob Hobden" contains these words: "Rusty Hinge 2" wrote There *IS* a name for it, and IIRC it was used extensively by Iron Age people. thinks What are those wire cages full of stones/rocks called? Gabions? Thasser one. But no, that's not what the wall is called. It's not a palisade, either. -- Rusty Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk Separator in search of a sig |
Name of boundary method
"a.c." wrote in message ps.com... Apparently seen in Romania. Place a row of small stakes (1.2m high from ground X 1.5 to 2m apart), Then add a similar adjacent row around 40-50cm away (parallel) but placing posts between the previous row. Fill the space in between with you prunings until compact barrier is formed. Does this type of thing have a name? Was it built by our ancestors (I have a vague feeling of having encountered it before)? What creatures may benefit. How long will it last? As it decomposes, which plants best thrive... is weeding a problem? Thanks. Wattling? Stephen |
Name of boundary method
"Rusty Hinge 2" wrote in message k... The message from "Bob Hobden" contains these words: "Rusty Hinge 2" wrote There *IS* a name for it, and IIRC it was used extensively by Iron Age people. thinks What are those wire cages full of stones/rocks called? Gabions? Thasser one. But no, that's not what the wall is called. It's not a palisade, either. This is driving me mad !! I've been googling this morning and found wattle fences which are somewhat similar inasmuch as they use the same materials - just in a single fence as opposed to a double one: http://www.soton.ac.uk/~tpg/Woodworking1.htm The following site has some diagrams of barriers used in sand dunes - principle is similar: http://handbooks.btcv.org.uk/handboo...t/section/3941 Found a Romanian fence: http://www.globalgayz.com/RomaniaGalleryC/IMG_1416.html And totally irrelevant but interesting - from the Salic Law (http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/medieval/salic.htm) : Title XXXIV. Concerning the Stealing of Fences. 1. If any man shall have cut 3 staves by which a fence is bound or held together, or have stolen or cut the heads of 3 stakes, he shall be sentenced to 600 denars, which make 15 shillings, Jenny :~) |
Name of boundary method
JennyC wrote: "Rusty Hinge 2" wrote in message k... The message from "Bob Hobden" contains these words: "Rusty Hinge 2" wrote There *IS* a name for it, and IIRC it was used extensively by Iron Age people. thinks What are those wire cages full of stones/rocks called? Gabions? Thasser one. But no, that's not what the wall is called. It's not a palisade, either. This is driving me mad !! I've been googling this morning and found wattle fences which are somewhat similar inasmuch as they use the same materials - just in a single fence as opposed to a double one: http://www.soton.ac.uk/~tpg/Woodworking1.htm Actually, in the case of what I'm thinking about, not really at all similar. The cuttings / prunings/ brushwood (another word to use in my search) are not in any way intertwined with the posts. As in wattle. Indeed, anything stiking out from the post line was trimmed off. Imagin a row of posts with brushwood, prunnings piled against it... they'd roll off. So place a second post row to trap the material within and allowing for a denser wall to be created. But thank you very much for the sites. I got the word "brushwood" as a keyword search thingy. The following site has some diagrams of barriers used in sand dunes - principle is similar: http://handbooks.btcv.org.uk/handboo...t/section/3941 A very interesting site. It does seem to support gabions as the name for the stone baskets. Even shows how they're done Found a Romanian fence: http://www.globalgayz.com/RomaniaGalleryC/IMG_1416.html And totally irrelevant but interesting - from the Salic Law (http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/medieval/salic.htm) : Title XXXIV. Concerning the Stealing of Fences. 1. If any man shall have cut 3 staves by which a fence is bound or held together, or have stolen or cut the heads of 3 stakes, he shall be sentenced to 600 denars, which make 15 shillings, Jenny :~) |
Name of boundary method
a.c. wrote: JennyC wrote: "Rusty Hinge 2" wrote in message k... The message from "Bob Hobden" contains these words: "Rusty Hinge 2" wrote There *IS* a name for it, and IIRC it was used extensively by Iron Age people. thinks What are those wire cages full of stones/rocks called? Gabions? Thasser one. But no, that's not what the wall is called. It's not a palisade, either. This is driving me mad !! I've been googling this morning and found wattle fences which are somewhat similar inasmuch as they use the same materials - just in a single fence as opposed to a double one: http://www.soton.ac.uk/~tpg/Woodworking1.htm Actually, in the case of what I'm thinking about, not really at all similar. The cuttings / prunings/ brushwood (another word to use in my search) are not in any way intertwined with the posts. As in wattle. Indeed, anything stiking out from the post line was trimmed off. Imagin a row of posts with brushwood, prunnings piled against it... they'd roll off. So place a second post row to trap the material within and allowing for a denser wall to be created. But thank you very much for the sites. I got the word "brushwood" as a keyword search thingy. The following site has some diagrams of barriers used in sand dunes - principle is similar: http://handbooks.btcv.org.uk/handboo...t/section/3941 A very interesting site. It does seem to support gabions as the name for the stone baskets. Even shows how they're done Found a Romanian fence: http://www.globalgayz.com/RomaniaGalleryC/IMG_1416.html And totally irrelevant but interesting - from the Salic Law (http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/medieval/salic.htm) : Title XXXIV. Concerning the Stealing of Fences. 1. If any man shall have cut 3 staves by which a fence is bound or held together, or have stolen or cut the heads of 3 stakes, he shall be sentenced to 600 denars, which make 15 shillings, Jenny :~) not a crannóg either |
Name of boundary method
a.c. wrote: a.c. wrote: JennyC wrote: "Rusty Hinge 2" wrote in message k... The message from "Bob Hobden" contains these words: "Rusty Hinge 2" wrote There *IS* a name for it, and IIRC it was used extensively by Iron Age people. thinks What are those wire cages full of stones/rocks called? Gabions? Thasser one. But no, that's not what the wall is called. It's not a palisade, either. This is driving me mad !! I've been googling this morning and found wattle fences which are somewhat similar inasmuch as they use the same materials - just in a single fence as opposed to a double one: http://www.soton.ac.uk/~tpg/Woodworking1.htm Actually, in the case of what I'm thinking about, not really at all similar. The cuttings / prunings/ brushwood (another word to use in my search) are not in any way intertwined with the posts. As in wattle. Indeed, anything stiking out from the post line was trimmed off. Imagin a row of posts with brushwood, prunnings piled against it... they'd roll off. So place a second post row to trap the material within and allowing for a denser wall to be created. But thank you very much for the sites. I got the word "brushwood" as a keyword search thingy. The following site has some diagrams of barriers used in sand dunes -principle is similar: http://handbooks.btcv.org.uk/handboo...t/section/3941 A very interesting site. It does seem to support gabions as the name for the stone baskets. Even shows how they're done Found a Romanian fence: http://www.globalgayz.com/RomaniaGalleryC/IMG_1416.html And totally irrelevant but interesting - from the Salic Law (http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/medieval/salic.htm) : Title XXXIV. Concerning the Stealing of Fences. 1. If any man shall have cut 3 staves by which a fence is bound or held together, or have stolen or cut the heads of 3 stakes, he shall be sentenced to 600 denars, which make 15 shillings, Jenny :~) not a crannóg either from http://handbooks.btcv.org.uk/handboo...t/section/3314 Dead hedge; under the coppice heading. |
Name of boundary method
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from "JennyC" contains these words: And totally irrelevant but interesting - from the Salic Law (http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/medieval/salic.htm) : Title XXXIV. Concerning the Stealing of Fences. 1. If any man shall have cut 3 staves by which a fence is bound or held together, or have stolen or cut the heads of 3 stakes, he shall be sentenced to 600 denars, which make 15 shillings, 600 dinners for fifteen shillings is good value. -- Rusty Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk Separator in search of a sig |
Name of boundary method
Bob Hobden wrote:
"Rusty Hinge 2" wrote There *IS* a name for it, and IIRC it was used extensively by Iron Age people. thinks What are those wire cages full of stones/rocks called? Gabions? Thank you! They have these forming, or at least partially forming, the walls of the new airport building at Limoges, and every time I see them remember that I meant to look up the word for them......all things come to those who wait (and do nothing!) -- Holly, in France Gite to let in Dordogne, now with pool. http://la-plaine.chez-alice.fr |
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