bamboo as a screen-anyone tried it?
I know there are loads of variety of bamboos about but has anyone any experience of growing bamboo on a clay soil? I would like a bamboo to grow to about 3 m to use as screening but a small bamboo i have had for years just hasnt grown at all and it may just be my clay soil
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bamboo as a screen-anyone tried it?
"mrs-baggins" wrote in message ... I know there are loads of variety of bamboos about but has anyone any experience of growing bamboo on a clay soil? I would like a bamboo to grow to about 3 m to use as screening but a small bamboo i have had for years just hasnt grown at all and it may just be my clay soil I do not know any bamboo varieties by name but some will form dense curtains/screens. Unfortunately, these ones do not know when to stop and are very invasive and hard to control. One trick is to "contain" them by mowing i.e. have lawn up to the edge of the screen and keep the grass cut. The most likely explanation for the slow growth is the variety rather than the soil but that is a guess as I have never grown any; they sound scary. http://www.stambamboo.com/ These guys above have a famous bamboo nursery in Ireland and their web site gives some info. -- mrs-baggins |
bamboo as a screen-anyone tried it?
"mrs-baggins" wrote in message ... I know there are loads of variety of bamboos about but has anyone any experience of growing bamboo on a clay soil? I would like a bamboo to grow to about 3 m to use as screening but a small bamboo i have had for years just hasnt grown at all and it may just be my clay soil -- mrs-baggins I have no experience of growing bamboos on clay-but I do know that it is possible if you are prepared to improve the soil by addition of goodly doses of organic matter. Bamboos prefer a rich moist soil but will grow in most conditions. I am referring to the standard hardy frost tolerant varieties of which there are an increasing choice. It is possible that the one plant you have already tried is a small/dwarf variety----do you know which variety it is? |
bamboo as a screen-anyone tried it?
"Des Higgins" wrote in message . ie... "mrs-baggins" wrote in message ... I know there are loads of variety of bamboos about but has anyone any experience of growing bamboo on a clay soil? I would like a bamboo to grow to about 3 m to use as screening but a small bamboo i have had for years just hasnt grown at all and it may just be my clay soil I do not know any bamboo varieties by name but some will form dense curtains/screens. Unfortunately, these ones do not know when to stop and are very invasive and hard to control. One trick is to "contain" them by mowing i.e. have lawn up to the edge of the screen and keep the grass cut. The most likely explanation for the slow growth is the variety rather than the soil but that is a guess as I have never grown any; they sound scary. http://www.stambamboo.com/ These guys above have a famous bamboo nursery in Ireland and their web site gives some info. -- mrs-baggins I am pretty certain stambamboo supply a lot of the UK stuff that is sold. The invasive bit really is overdone. In ideal conditions some varieties may run but it does not happen overnight. I have several so called invasive species planted about 6 years ago which have clumped up slightly. I should be so lucky that they take off with a vengeance and make me rich. I think Stam or some other big grower refers to the silly prices that these plants command. |
bamboo as a screen-anyone tried it?
Rupert wrote:
I am pretty certain stambamboo supply a lot of the UK stuff that is sold. The invasive bit really is overdone. In ideal conditions some varieties may run but it does not happen overnight. I have several so called invasive species planted about 6 years ago which have clumped up slightly. I should be so lucky that they take off with a vengeance and make me rich. I think Stam or some other big grower refers to the silly prices that these plants command. Be VERY careful. I have a japanese courtyard, in it i planted 1# Golden Bamboo, 1# Black bamboo - both by repute clump forming. For about 4/5 years they were very well behaved simply putting up new growth tight up against the clump. Then...... do you rember the very hot summer we had about 2/3 years ago. Suddenly i had shoots appearing at every boundary and in gound feature (reailway sleeper path) where the bamboo had run under the textile sheet until hitting an obstructeion then goe up. From a 5m*4m area I took out more than 30m length of runner as thick as my thumb. A bit of research on the internet revealed that the golden in particular is reagrde as a notorious runner in the hotter, southern states of the USA. The hot summer and heat reaining walls had given it the conditions it liked and it went for it with a vengance. Fortunately, with a tad of forsight i had planted the golden close to a buried redundant concrete foundation between me and the neighbours patio, other wise i would have had BIG problems. pk |
bamboo as a screen-anyone tried it?
"Rupert" wrote in message ... "Des Higgins" wrote in message . ie... "mrs-baggins" wrote in message ... I know there are loads of variety of bamboos about but has anyone any experience of growing bamboo on a clay soil? I would like a bamboo to grow to about 3 m to use as screening but a small bamboo i have had for years just hasnt grown at all and it may just be my clay soil I do not know any bamboo varieties by name but some will form dense curtains/screens. Unfortunately, these ones do not know when to stop and are very invasive and hard to control. One trick is to "contain" them by mowing i.e. have lawn up to the edge of the screen and keep the grass cut. The most likely explanation for the slow growth is the variety rather than the soil but that is a guess as I have never grown any; they sound scary. http://www.stambamboo.com/ These guys above have a famous bamboo nursery in Ireland and their web site gives some info. -- mrs-baggins I am pretty certain stambamboo supply a lot of the UK stuff that is sold. The invasive bit really is overdone. In ideal conditions some varieties may run but it does not happen overnight. I have several so called invasive species planted about 6 years ago which have clumped up slightly. You will hear a rustling noise in the middle of the night and you will wake up to find the curtains closed even though you thought you had left them opened only to find that it is a wall of bamboo that has emerged overnight and is blocking the light and that your car has disappeared and you will not be able to open the back door or maybe I am exagerrating slightly. I should be so lucky that they take off with a vengeance and make me rich. I think Stam or some other big grower refers to the silly prices that these plants command. |
bamboo as a screen-anyone tried it?
On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 08:12:27 +0000, mrs-baggins
wrote: I know there are loads of variety of bamboos about but has anyone any experience of growing bamboo on a clay soil? I would like a bamboo to grow to about 3 m to use as screening but a small bamboo i have had for years just hasnt grown at all and it may just be my clay soil I also want to use bamboo as a screen but I thought I'd grow them in large containers. Don't know how this will pan-out - especially given that I know very little about gardening let alone growing bamboo! Simon |
bamboo as a screen-anyone tried it?
PigPOg wrote: I also want to use bamboo as a screen but I thought I'd grow them in large containers. Don't know how this will pan-out - especially given that I know very little about gardening let alone growing bamboo! There's nothing to it. If they go out of hand, just dig them out. I've had bamboos and I've never bothered doing anything to them beside removing the dead stems, ideal to start my fires with. This 'out of control bamboos' is really annoying me. My friend has landscaped an area in central Manchester with bamboos 12 years ago. The bamboos haven't spread, nor did they grew up walls, suffocated people, or jumped on passers by. Bamboos in pots are more difficult because it is a container, and containers dry off quicker and are prone to frost etc. Use a good container, plastic preferably, it's lighter and easier to move around, start well with a good drainage at the bottom, crocks, gravel and you shouldn' t have any problem. My cousin didn't touched hers for years and years and last year decided to paint some of them like totems. They look brilliant :o) Here something reassuring ... http://www.d.lane.btinternet.co.uk/bamboo.htm http://www.whatprice.co.uk/gardening...ng-bamboo.html |
bamboo as a screen-anyone tried it?
"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message ... The message from "Rupert" contains these words: The invasive bit really is overdone. In ideal conditions some varieties may run but it does not happen overnight. I have several so called invasive species planted about 6 years ago which have clumped up slightly. But when the spread does start in older clumps, it can be extremely difficult to control Warning heeded. If it does not take off within a few more years I will blame you. Whilst on the subject of invasive weeds-what was the mystery weed you enquired about- the sempervivum looking thingy? |
bamboo as a screen-anyone tried it?
"Janet Baraclough" wrote The message from "Rupert" contains these words: The invasive bit really is overdone. In ideal conditions some varieties may run but it does not happen overnight. I have several so called invasive species planted about 6 years ago which have clumped up slightly. But when the spread does start in older clumps, it can be extremely difficult to control Just as well this thread has come now. I was making a list of things I could possibly plant in a relative's garden to screen a boundary wall. Are there -any- varieties that are reliably non-invasive? -- Sue |
bamboo as a screen-anyone tried it?
"PigPOg" wrote in message ... On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 08:12:27 +0000, mrs-baggins wrote: I know there are loads of variety of bamboos about but has anyone any experience of growing bamboo on a clay soil? I would like a bamboo to grow to about 3 m to use as screening but a small bamboo i have had for years just hasnt grown at all and it may just be my clay soil I also want to use bamboo as a screen but I thought I'd grow them in large containers. Don't know how this will pan-out - especially given that I know very little about gardening let alone growing bamboo! Simon Knowing very little about gardening and wanting to cultivate bamboo is a good match. They are not a difficult plant to cultivate. Pots are fine and give you the advantage of the extra instant height and more choices of location. Bamboo Root Barrier can be used if you are intending to plant one of the very invasive species. |
bamboo as a screen-anyone tried it?
"Sue" wrote in message reenews.net... "Janet Baraclough" wrote The message from "Rupert" contains these words: The invasive bit really is overdone. In ideal conditions some varieties may run but it does not happen overnight. I have several so called invasive species planted about 6 years ago which have clumped up slightly. But when the spread does start in older clumps, it can be extremely difficult to control Just as well this thread has come now. I was making a list of things I could possibly plant in a relative's garden to screen a boundary wall. Are there -any- varieties that are reliably non-invasive? -- Sue What you need is a clump forming bamboo as against bamboo that spreads by sending out long runners which fire up at a distance from the plant. Fargesia murielae is one of the most popular because it is relatively well behaved. The only Bamboo I have the shows any signs of running is Sasa and I was warned that this really is invasive and should be avoided. I am still waiting with fear and trepidation:-) This site gives a good explanation of the different habits of bamboo. http://www.bamboosourcery.com/catalog.cfm?print=1 |
bamboo as a screen-anyone tried it?
La Puce wrote:
This 'out of control bamboos' is really annoying me. Why's that? Would you prefer people kept silence about experiences not in accord with your own? pk |
bamboo as a screen-anyone tried it?
"p.k." wrote in message ... Rupert wrote: I am pretty certain stambamboo supply a lot of the UK stuff that is sold. The invasive bit really is overdone. In ideal conditions some varieties may run but it does not happen overnight. I have several so called invasive species planted about 6 years ago which have clumped up slightly. I should be so lucky that they take off with a vengeance and make me rich. I think Stam or some other big grower refers to the silly prices that these plants command. Be VERY careful. I have a japanese courtyard, in it i planted 1# Golden Bamboo, 1# Black bamboo - both by repute clump forming. For about 4/5 years they were very well behaved simply putting up new growth tight up against the clump. Then...... do you rember the very hot summer we had about 2/3 years ago. Suddenly i had shoots appearing at every boundary and in gound feature (reailway sleeper path) where the bamboo had run under the textile sheet until hitting an obstructeion then goe up. From a 5m*4m area I took out more than 30m length of runner as thick as my thumb. A bit of research on the internet revealed that the golden in particular is reagrde as a notorious runner in the hotter, southern states of the USA. The hot summer and heat reaining walls had given it the conditions it liked and it went for it with a vengance. Fortunately, with a tad of forsight i had planted the golden close to a buried redundant concrete foundation between me and the neighbours patio, other wise i would have had BIG problems. pk I do vaguely remember that summer--seems decades ago . Message understood. I guess you gave them the absolute best growing conditions by providing a cool moist root run. Do you know the names of those two varieties? Phyllostachys aurea something? and Phlyllostachys nigra perhaps. |
bamboo as a screen-anyone tried it?
I should be so lucky that they take off with a vengeance and make me rich.
I imagine that someone once said the same thing about Japanese Knot Weed ; - ) -- Hayley (gardening on well drained, alkaline clay in Somerset) |
bamboo as a screen-anyone tried it?
Rupert wrote:
I do vaguely remember that summer--seems decades ago . Message understood. I guess you gave them the absolute best growing conditions by providing a cool moist root run. Do you know the names of those two varieties? Phyllostachys aurea something? and Phlyllostachys nigra perhaps. Yep the basic P.aurea & P.nigra. I made them very happy - or rather, they died happy! pk |
bamboo as a screen-anyone tried it?
"p.k." wrote Rupert wrote: I do vaguely remember that summer--seems decades ago . Message understood. I guess you gave them the absolute best growing conditions by providing a cool moist root run. Do you know the names of those two varieties? Phyllostachys aurea something? and Phlyllostachys nigra perhaps. Yep the basic P.aurea & P.nigra. I made them very happy - or rather, they died happy! They may well take over the UK in a few years then, as all the designers on those makeover programmes seem to include one or the other - or both - in fairly small back gardens! -- Sue |
bamboo as a screen-anyone tried it?
"Rupert" wrote What you need is a clump forming bamboo as against bamboo that spreads by sending out long runners which fire up at a distance from the plant. Fargesia murielae is one of the most popular because it is relatively well behaved. The only Bamboo I have the shows any signs of running is Sasa and I was warned that this really is invasive and should be avoided. I am still waiting with fear and trepidation:-) This site gives a good explanation of the different habits of bamboo. http://www.bamboosourcery.com/catalog.cfm?print=1 Thanks, that looks very useful. You'll let us know if you need us to have a whip round for a machete for you at Xmas, won't you? ;) -- Sue |
bamboo as a screen-anyone tried it?
"Sue" wrote in message reenews.net... "Rupert" wrote What you need is a clump forming bamboo as against bamboo that spreads by sending out long runners which fire up at a distance from the plant. Fargesia murielae is one of the most popular because it is relatively well behaved. The only Bamboo I have the shows any signs of running is Sasa and I was warned that this really is invasive and should be avoided. I am still waiting with fear and trepidation:-) This site gives a good explanation of the different habits of bamboo. http://www.bamboosourcery.com/catalog.cfm?print=1 Thanks, that looks very useful. You'll let us know if you need us to have a whip round for a machete for you at Xmas, won't you? ;) -- Sue My Christmas fare is fairly traditional but this year it may include bamboo shoots :-) |
bamboo as a screen-anyone tried it?
"Sue" wrote in message reenews.net... "p.k." wrote Rupert wrote: I do vaguely remember that summer--seems decades ago . Message understood. I guess you gave them the absolute best growing conditions by providing a cool moist root run. Do you know the names of those two varieties? Phyllostachys aurea something? and Phlyllostachys nigra perhaps. Yep the basic P.aurea & P.nigra. I made them very happy - or rather, they died happy! They may well take over the UK in a few years then, as all the designers on those makeover programmes seem to include one or the other - or both - in fairly small back gardens! -- Sue Yes they will probably outdo the tree ferns . I noticed on the Stam bamboo site that there is a very dwarf variety which can be used as a lawn. Not all is lost . They do die (50-100 years) |
bamboo as a screen-anyone tried it?
In article .com, "La
Puce" wrote: PigPOg wrote: I also want to use bamboo as a screen but I thought I'd grow them in large containers. Don't know how this will pan-out - especially given that I know very little about gardening let alone growing bamboo! There's nothing to it. If they go out of hand, just dig them out. I've had bamboos and I've never bothered doing anything to them beside removing the dead stems, ideal to start my fires with. This 'out of control bamboos' is really annoying me. My friend has landscaped an area in central Manchester with bamboos 12 years ago. The bamboos haven't spread, nor did they grew up walls, suffocated people, or jumped on passers by. Exactly. I've seen some real problems with Sasa Palmata and I know a feral wood of Sasaella Ramosa which makes me very scared of it, but in general the problems are much exagerated. There's a page of advice at http://www.americanbamboo.org/Genera...ingBamboo.html Its really for california - where things allegedly grow faster - so I'd expect far fewer problems here. Bamboos come in two sorts; runners and clumpers (or leptomorphic and caespitose if you like more impressive terminology). You want clumpers to avoid the invasive tendency. If you really want to see impressive hedges of bamboo, Burton Agnes near Bridlington, E.Yorks have them of Yushania Anceps - which has a slight tendency to run but is basically a clumper. Bamboos in pots are more difficult because it is a container, and containers dry off quicker and are prone to frost etc. Use a good container, plastic preferably, it's lighter and easier to move around, start well with a good drainage at the bottom, crocks, gravel and you shouldn' t have any problem. Bamboos in pots are problematic. They hate being dried out and always look much happier in the soil. They have almost no water storage organs. Depending on species and how dry you get them, you'll get leaf curl - or they might even shed all leaves. If you insist on containers, be prepared to give some serious thought to irrigation in hot weather. |
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