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Hello

Thought some of you happy campers out there might be able to recommend a
tent that will fit my 6'3 husband - he hates small enclosed spaces and
having to bend his head if he stands up at all, he gets a crick in the
neck. I just wondered if anyone knew of a decent tent for taller
people, as we want to do some camping on our garden lawn this summer
with my little boy?

Thanks.
--
Lynda Thornton

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Lynda Thornton wrote:
Thought some of you happy campers out there might be able to recommend a
tent that will fit my 6'3 husband
I am that height and have used a Vango Spirit 200, and a North Face
Tadpole 23

He might try sleeping up the middle of a Relum Task Force 3, or splash
out on a proper bell tent from Relum. I like them all. The "Giant
Pearl" will house the whole family.

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In article .com,
writes
Lynda Thornton wrote:
Thought some of you happy campers out there might be able to recommend a
tent that will fit my 6'3 husband
I am that height and have used a Vango Spirit 200, and a North Face
Tadpole 23

He might try sleeping up the middle of a Relum Task Force 3, or splash
out on a proper bell tent from Relum. I like them all. The "Giant
Pearl" will house the whole family.

Thanks Robert, I'll check them out :)

Lynda

Garden Camping - a bit OT!
 

In message , Lynda Thornton
wrote
In article .com,
writes
Lynda Thornton wrote:
Thought some of you happy campers out there might be able to recommend a
tent that will fit my 6'3 husband
I am that height and have used a Vango Spirit 200, and a North Face
Tadpole 23

He might try sleeping up the middle of a Relum Task Force 3, or splash
out on a proper bell tent from Relum. I like them all. The "Giant
Pearl" will house the whole family.

Thanks Robert, I'll check them out :)


If you are camping in the garden just to give your young son an
experience then surely your husband can rough it for a night or two?
Your son will probably have more fun in the smallest tent you can find.
--
Alan
news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com

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However, I have to say that while camping in the garden is a rite of
childhood passage, having the parents in the tent is not!. A torch and
their teddy or the family dog/cat for company is all they need. Ours
used to spend all day making "the bivouac" out of whatever they could
find then sleep in it. Let your boy spend the night out there alone or
with a couple of friends.That's what it's all about. Even if you lie
wide awake all night on the sitting room sofa with the French
windows/patio door open listening for kidnappers.

Hi

Thanks for your opinion. I actually just wanted some information about
tents, not how to live my life!

Lynda

Garden Camping - a bit OT!
 

If you are camping in the garden just to give your young son an
experience then surely your husband can rough it for a night or two?
Your son will probably have more fun in the smallest tent you can find.

Hi Alan

The point is that we want to see how it goes in the garden first, before
going further afield later on. My husband isn't keen on small tents in
the first place, that's why I was asking!

Lynda

Garden Camping - a bit OT!
 

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"Lynda Thornton" wrote in message
...
However, I have to say that while camping in the garden is a rite of
childhood passage, having the parents in the tent is not!. A torch and
their teddy or the family dog/cat for company is all they need. Ours
used to spend all day making "the bivouac" out of whatever they could
find then sleep in it. Let your boy spend the night out there alone or
with a couple of friends.That's what it's all about. Even if you lie
wide awake all night on the sitting room sofa with the French
windows/patio door open listening for kidnappers.

Hi

Thanks for your opinion. I actually just wanted some information about
tents, not how to live my life!

Lynda


Well said Lynda

'Some' people try to 'own' just a bit toooooo much

Mike

Garden Camping - a bit OT!
 

In message , Lynda Thornton
writes
Hello

Thought some of you happy campers out there might be able to recommend a
tent that will fit my 6'3 husband - he hates small enclosed spaces and
having to bend his head if he stands up at all, he gets a crick in the
neck. I just wondered if anyone knew of a decent tent for taller
people, as we want to do some camping on our garden lawn this summer
with my little boy?

Thanks.
Have been researching tents recently and maybe the Vango 500 or bigger
the 600 might be tall enough. Very spacious. Around 140 ukp. Coleman
also do a similar one. Best bet is to go to a place where you can see
the tent set up to get a feel of it. We did,and it made all the
difference to choosing one that we felt good about. If you live anywhere
near London there are two places by PJ Camping, St Albans and Romford,
that have tents set up. Otherwise ask in
uk.rec.camping where there are a lot of helpful people willing to give
you advice.
--
Paul reply-to is valid

Garden Camping - a bit OT!
 

In message , Lynda Thornton
writes


If you are camping in the garden just to give your young son an
experience then surely your husband can rough it for a night or two?
Your son will probably have more fun in the smallest tent you can find.

Hi Alan

The point is that we want to see how it goes in the garden first, before
going further afield later on. My husband isn't keen on small tents in
the first place, that's why I was asking!


There are quite a few tents around that will give your husband the
necessary head room - Depends partly on how big generally you want the
tent, there tends to be a bit of a relationship between floorplan size
and height.


Our Kyham would give him plenty of headroom, but it's a bit big for 3.

It's a few years old now, but the nearest model current is probably the
XXL Excelsior , but they have others :-)

http://www.khyam.co.uk/product_tent....E&type=Family/
Group

Kyham are not cheap, but of good quality, and very sturdy in windy
weather.

Ebay can be good place for tent buying, you get a lot of not used much
tents sold by people who try it once or twice then decide it' not for
them
--
Chris French

Garden Camping - a bit OT!
 

"Lynda Thornton" wrote in message
...
Hello

Thought some of you happy campers out there might be able to recommend a
tent that will fit my 6'3 husband - he hates small enclosed spaces and
having to bend his head if he stands up at all, he gets a crick in the
neck. I just wondered if anyone knew of a decent tent for taller
people, as we want to do some camping on our garden lawn this summer
with my little boy?

Thanks.
Lynda Thornton

Hi
This looks OK:
http://www.gear-zone.co.uk/eshop/Van...LX---SS06.html

Might be a bit big though. They do have other models as well............

Jenny

Garden Camping - a bit OT!
 

JennyC wrote:
http://www.gear-zone.co.uk/eshop/Van...LX---SS06.html
That's not a tent! It's a bungalow!

Garden Camping - a bit OT!
 

Lynda Thornton wrote:
tent that will fit my 6'3 husband

I've just seen a North Face Moraine 23 - new this year - The sleeping
compartment is a generous 2.3m on the longest side, but because it is a
bell tent you get slightly more along the middle, perhaps 2.4m (I
didn't have a tape measure with me).

The very modern frame design means nothing intrudes into the living
space, which is unusually high. If I wasn't over-supplied with tents
I'd be very tempted.

http://www.gear-zone.co.uk/eshop/The...23---SS06.html
but please buy from a local retailer if you can.

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In article , Janet Baraclough
writes
The message
from Lynda Thornton contains these words:

However, I have to say that while camping in the garden is a rite of
childhood passage, having the parents in the tent is not!. A torch and
their teddy or the family dog/cat for company is all they need. Ours
used to spend all day making "the bivouac" out of whatever they could
find then sleep in it. Let your boy spend the night out there alone or
with a couple of friends.That's what it's all about. Even if you lie
wide awake all night on the sitting room sofa with the French
windows/patio door open listening for kidnappers.

Hi

Thanks for your opinion. I actually just wanted some information about
tents,

Which I offered.

What you offered was not a specific recommendation Janet, I could have
worked out for myself that a large outdoor shop sells tents! My
question was asking people who actually know something about tents could
recommend a particular kind, which you could not do.

not how to live my life!

I hadn't even mentioned your bad manners.

. This is a public discussion group, not an advice bureau. Anything you
choose to put here is fair game for discussion and comment.

Janet

Hi Janet

I'm sorry if you are affronted but you need to look at what you said in
your post, how you said it and try to understand what it might be like
to be on the receiving end. I think I know what is best for my child
and what he would be comfortable doing - I don't think you would
appreciate my instructing you about what is best for yours especially
when that was not even the question being asked? It seems to me that
your own comments were of the 'advice bureau' kind if anything.

This is a newsgroup devoted to gardening and related issues, is it not -
and I have been a subscriber for many years. In the time that I have
participated here I have always tried to maintain good netiquette and
keep my comments specific and to the point and I think that would be a
good policy for all users.

I will not be continuing this as I do not intend to involve myself in
any prolonged antagonistic and unpleasant bickering which seems to have
become rife very sadly in this newsgroup.

Thanks
Lynda

Garden Camping - a bit OT!
 

In article , Paul
writes
In message , Lynda Thornton
writes
Hello

Thought some of you happy campers out there might be able to recommend a
tent that will fit my 6'3 husband - he hates small enclosed spaces and
having to bend his head if he stands up at all, he gets a crick in the
neck. I just wondered if anyone knew of a decent tent for taller
people, as we want to do some camping on our garden lawn this summer
with my little boy?

Thanks.
Have been researching tents recently and maybe the Vango 500 or bigger
the 600 might be tall enough. Very spacious. Around 140 ukp. Coleman
also do a similar one. Best bet is to go to a place where you can see
the tent set up to get a feel of it. We did,and it made all the
difference to choosing one that we felt good about. If you live anywhere
near London there are two places by PJ Camping, St Albans and Romford,
that have tents set up. Otherwise ask in
uk.rec.camping where there are a lot of helpful people willing to give
you advice.

Hi Paul

Thanks for that - I hadn't realised there was a camping newsgroup, I
thought I would ask here initially as there would be plenty of 'outdoor
types' and I have had some very useful responses!

Many thanks
Lynda

Garden Camping - a bit OT!
 

In article , chris French
writes
In message , Lynda Thornton
writes


If you are camping in the garden just to give your young son an
experience then surely your husband can rough it for a night or two?
Your son will probably have more fun in the smallest tent you can find.

Hi Alan

The point is that we want to see how it goes in the garden first, before
going further afield later on. My husband isn't keen on small tents in
the first place, that's why I was asking!


There are quite a few tents around that will give your husband the
necessary head room - Depends partly on how big generally you want the
tent, there tends to be a bit of a relationship between floorplan size
and height.


Our Kyham would give him plenty of headroom, but it's a bit big for 3.

It's a few years old now, but the nearest model current is probably the
XXL Excelsior , but they have others :-)

http://www.khyam.co.uk/product_tent....E&type=Family/
Group

Kyham are not cheap, but of good quality, and very sturdy in windy
weather.

Ebay can be good place for tent buying, you get a lot of not used much
tents sold by people who try it once or twice then decide it' not for
them

Hi Chris

Thanks for that, very useful and I will be following up all suggestions
of specific types and models to find the best one for us.

Lynda

Garden Camping - a bit OT!
 

In article , JennyC
writes

"Lynda Thornton" wrote in message
...
Hello

Thought some of you happy campers out there might be able to recommend a
tent that will fit my 6'3 husband - he hates small enclosed spaces and
having to bend his head if he stands up at all, he gets a crick in the
neck. I just wondered if anyone knew of a decent tent for taller
people, as we want to do some camping on our garden lawn this summer
with my little boy?

Thanks.
Lynda Thornton

Hi
This looks OK:
http://www.gear-zone.co.uk/eshop/Van...LX---SS06.html

Might be a bit big though. They do have other models as well............

Jenny

Hi Jenny

Thanks for that, I'll check it out.

Lynda

Garden Camping - a bit OT!
 

In article .com,
writes
Lynda Thornton wrote:
tent that will fit my 6'3 husband

I've just seen a North Face Moraine 23 - new this year - The sleeping
compartment is a generous 2.3m on the longest side, but because it is a
bell tent you get slightly more along the middle, perhaps 2.4m (I
didn't have a tape measure with me).

The very modern frame design means nothing intrudes into the living
space, which is unusually high. If I wasn't over-supplied with tents
I'd be very tempted.

http://www.gear-zone.co.uk/eshop/The...23---SS06.html
but please buy from a local retailer if you can.

Thanks again Robert, I'll definitely look at this one.

Lynda

Garden Camping - a bit OT!
 

"Lynda Thornton" wrote in message
...

This is a newsgroup devoted to gardening and related issues, is it not -
and I have been a subscriber for many years. In the time that I have
participated here I have always tried to maintain good netiquette and
keep my comments specific and to the point and I think that would be a
good policy for all users.

That's just your opinion.

And IMHO, it just happens to be totally wrong.

What you need to understand about UseNet, is that even on practical
topics such as gardening, many of the questions merely serve as pretext
for respondents to share all sorts of information and anecdotes, not
all of which is totally germane to the question, but much of which
may be interesting in its own right, useful, or put across in an
entertaining fashion. And there's no knowing when some of it mightn't
come in useful at some point in the future.

Whereas if everyone stuck rigidly to answering the question as you
suggest, Usenet would rapidly grind to a halt.

Furthermore, misunderstandings can easily arise on Usenet,
simply because it's solely a written medium, and so devoid of the
nuances which are possible in everyday spoken conversation. And yet
Usenet very often tries to mimic the tone and informality of spoken
conversation, often between total strangers. And so for this reason
alone, inadvertant misuderstandersings are commonplace, and it would
probably be unwise to take udue exception or offence when this
inevitably occurs

Janet's reply was made with the best of intentions, and may well
have been of interest to other readers of the group. Even if not
to you personally.

As soon as anyone posts a question on a NewsGroup, it's no longer
"their" question, but merely an invitation to discussion. And is
open to everyone to answer in any way they choose.

You would possibly do well to remeber that.


I will not be continuing this as I do not intend to involve myself in
any prolonged antagonistic and unpleasant bickering which seems to have
become rife very sadly in this newsgroup.

"Lynda Thornton" wrote in message
...

Thanks for your opinion. I actually just wanted some information about
tents, not how to live my life!


Indeed.


michael adams

....










Thanks
Lynda

Garden Camping - a bit OT!
 

have you thought about a frame tent? Most are over two metres high and
traditionally have loads of head room and space. We have several tents and
will take a dome for weekends but always use the frame tent for anything
longer. After talking at length to experienced campers using dome tents it
seems that putting up one of the bigger, more complicated domes takes as
long as a frame tent. The only saving seems to be in car space as a frame
tent is about twice a big as an equivalent sized dome when packed (a big one
is anyway).

--
Hayley
(gardening on well drained, alkaline clay in Somerset)

Garden Camping - a bit OT!
 

... Janet's reply was made with the best of intentions,...

I agree with this post - it is necessary to give replies the benefit of the
doubt. It is also the case that threads can end up full of general "stuff"
and comments. We may all try to keep to gardening but that is not going to
always happen, especially if a thread starts OT :) so I can't see teh harm
in the odd "throwaway comment".

--
Hayley
(gardening on well drained, alkaline clay in Somerset)

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At the risk of getting in the cross fire! My wife is a Guide leader and all
her tents 2,3 and 5 man are all "Vanga" easy to put up, warm and reasonable
robust and reasonable price too.

--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)

Garden Camping - a bit OT!
 

In article , Charlie
Pridham writes
At the risk of getting in the cross fire! My wife is a Guide leader and all
her tents 2,3 and 5 man are all "Vanga" easy to put up, warm and reasonable
robust and reasonable price too.

Hi

Thanks for that recommendation - I have had plenty of useful and helpful
suggestions from many posters in the thread!

Lynda

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"Charlie Pridham" wrote in message
...
At the risk of getting in the cross fire! My wife is a Guide leader and
all
her tents 2,3 and 5 man are all "Vanga" easy to put up, warm and
reasonable
robust and reasonable price too.

How does a *person* cope with all these *men* ? There must be a queue to be
a Guide leader:-)
--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)

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"Rupert (W.Yorkshire)" wrote in message
...

"Charlie Pridham" wrote in message
...
At the risk of getting in the cross fire! My wife is a Guide leader and
all
her tents 2,3 and 5 man are all "Vanga" easy to put up, warm and
reasonable
robust and reasonable price too.

How does a *person* cope with all these *men* ? There must be a queue to
be
a Guide leader:-)
--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)




I want to know how these men got in. I applied to join the Girl Guides and
they said no :-((

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In message , H Ryder
writes
have you thought about a frame tent? Most are over two metres high and
traditionally have loads of head room and space. We have several tents and
will take a dome for weekends but always use the frame tent for anything
longer. After talking at length to experienced campers using dome tents it
seems that putting up one of the bigger, more complicated domes takes as
long as a frame tent. The only saving seems to be in car space as a frame
tent is about twice a big as an equivalent sized dome when packed (a big one
is anyway).

Our Kyham isn't a dome, but it has some of the benefits of such, but it
also has some of the benefits of frame tents as the main poles are
mostly straight, so it is quite a boxy shape - and is more stable in
strong winds than most dome designs of it's size.. It's not that quick
to fully put up really - though I hurry I can have the outer up and
stable enough for shelter in about 10 minutes, but quicker than frame
tent (which I don't really like for various reasons).

Another advantage of domes etc. is the greater flexibility for
variations in designs, though given some of the crappy designs some come
up with that's a sometimes dubious benefit.
--
Chris French

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JennyC wrote:
This looks OK:
http://www.gear-zone.co.uk/eshop/Van...LX---SS06.html
Might be a bit big though. They do have other models as well............

I wish I knew the name of our tent. It's huge, ancient, high, has two
bedrooms, kitchen side corner thing with it's own window. Now that
we're four of us (two boys) it's not a problem to put it up even for a
week end. It's good exercise anyway. These days everything must go
fast, and when on hols isn't the idea to slow down?! (though my escuse
to get out of putting the tent up is making a cuppa for everybody, tee
hee).

btw - Ynyslas was ab-so-lu-te-ly superbe. No rain - all sun, walked 15
miles on a coastal path and thought I'd die of thirst, went around like
a lunatic on a quad bike, ambarrased the kids but impressed the sheep,
rode a 27 years old horse called Merlin and now I walk like John Wayne
;o)

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H Ryder writes
... Janet's reply was made with the best of intentions,...

I agree with this post - it is necessary to give replies the benefit of the
doubt. It is also the case that threads can end up full of general "stuff"
and comments. We may all try to keep to gardening but that is not going to
always happen, especially if a thread starts OT :) so I can't see teh harm
in the odd "throwaway comment".

I learn from this ng, not so much by asking specific questions, but by
reading the comments of other people to other questions - if everybody
stuck to the specific point of each question, I would not learn half so
much!
--
Kay