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Head Gardener for Gardener's World wanted
In a trade mag. today " Seven months contract. Responsible for
maintaining and developing the BBC's flagship garden at Berryfields in Warwickshire, you'll need to balance the demands of a hands-on gardening role with the ability to manage a small off-screen team. As well as the proven ability to schedule, supervise and line-manage assistant gardening staff, you'll need a strong horticultural background encompassing plant knowledge and practical skills at a more senior level" etc. etc. etc. Applications to be received by 4th May. bbc.co.uk/jobs or 0870 333 1330 |
Head Gardener for Gardener's World wanted
"Sacha" wrote in message ups.com... In a trade mag. today " Seven months contract. Responsible for maintaining and developing the BBC's flagship garden at Berryfields in Warwickshire, you'll need to balance the demands of a hands-on gardening role with the ability to manage a small off-screen team. You mean the presenters don't really do all the planning and work they pretend to do? Gasp! -- Brian "Fight like the Devil, die like a gentleman." |
Head Gardener for Gardener's World wanted
Brian Watson wrote: "Sacha" wrote in message ups.com... In a trade mag. today " Seven months contract. Responsible for maintaining and developing the BBC's flagship garden at Berryfields in Warwickshire, you'll need to balance the demands of a hands-on gardening role with the ability to manage a small off-screen team. You mean the presenters don't really do all the planning and work they pretend to do? Gasp! Amazing, innit? ;-) A great many years ago, one of the then famous TV gardening presenters came to Jersey to do a programme and part of it was shot at my outlaws garden. We were all there watching for the great man to do his thing. He was one of the real 'sons of the soil' types, down to earth, long-term garden expert etc. There was to be a piece of him planting a shrub in one of the borders and then chatting to my outlaws about their garden. Before the piece was done, we were all absolutely gobsmacked to see a minion walk over, dig what was really quite a small hole and tidily place both shovel and shrub beside it so that the 'star' could simply lower plant into hole on camera! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon |
Head Gardener for Gardener's World wanted
Indeed. You also wonder about the army of tradespeople and labourers
that must be beavering away on those house-makeover programmes while the presenter stands there with a paintbrush in her hand looking moderately glamorous. |
Head Gardener for Gardener's World wanted
Martin wrote: On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 06:06:15 +0100, "Brian Watson" wrote: "Sacha" wrote in message oups.com... In a trade mag. today " Seven months contract. Responsible for maintaining and developing the BBC's flagship garden at Berryfields in Warwickshire, you'll need to balance the demands of a hands-on gardening role with the ability to manage a small off-screen team. You mean the presenters don't really do all the planning and work they pretend to do? They have a dedicated off-screen team of Garden Gnomes to help them -- There is also advertised what sounds to me a much more interesting job. This is for the Horticultural Researchers Pool . They're looking for people to be contacted when suitable vacancies arise and employment will be of varying lengths and often at short notice. "You'll be required to work across a range of prestigious BBC TWO commissions including Gardener's World and output from the Tatton flower show amonst others. Working with producers and series producers, you'll drive stories, source stunning locations and cast passionate enthusiasts." The applicants will be horticulturally trained and need an excellent knowledge of all aspects of planting and plant history etc. etc. Again it's on their web site and is Ref. 81556 www.bbc.co.uk/jobs I think there are a few urglers who could drop into that 'occasional slot' quite easily. Applications to be in by 4th May. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon |
Head Gardener for Gardener's World wanted
Janet Baraclough wrote: The message from "Brian Watson" contains these words: "Sacha" wrote in message ups.com... In a trade mag. today " Seven months contract. Responsible for maintaining and developing the BBC's flagship garden at Berryfields in Warwickshire, you'll need to balance the demands of a hands-on gardening role with the ability to manage a small off-screen team. You mean the presenters don't really do all the planning and work they pretend to do? Gasp! If a vacancy comes up for the job of putting mud under Monty's fingernails, please let me know Janet I think that shows admirable restraint, Janet. ;-) -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon |
Head Gardener for Gardener's World wanted
"Sacha" wrote in message ups.com... Brian Watson wrote: You mean the presenters don't really do all the planning and work they pretend to do? Gasp! Amazing, innit? ;-) A great many years ago, one of the then famous TV gardening presenters came to Jersey to do a programme and part of it was shot at my outlaws garden. We were all there watching for the great man to do his thing. He was one of the real 'sons of the soil' types, down to earth, long-term garden expert etc. There was to be a piece of him planting a shrub in one of the borders and then chatting to my outlaws about their garden. Before the piece was done, we were all absolutely gobsmacked to see a minion walk over, dig what was really quite a small hole and tidily place both shovel and shrub beside it so that the 'star' could simply lower plant into hole on camera! Quite depressing, really, in both cases. -- Brian |
Head Gardener for Gardener's World wanted
"Sacha" wrote in message ps.com... There is also advertised what sounds to me a much more interesting job. This is for the Horticultural Researchers Pool . They're looking for people to be contacted when suitable vacancies arise and employment will be of varying lengths and often at short notice. "You'll be required to work across a range of prestigious BBC TWO commissions including Gardener's World and output from the Tatton flower show amonst others. Working with producers and series producers, you'll drive stories, source stunning locations and cast passionate enthusiasts." The applicants will be horticulturally trained and need an excellent knowledge of all aspects of planting and plant history etc. etc. Again it's on their web site and is Ref. 81556 www.bbc.co.uk/jobs I think there are a few urglers who could drop into that 'occasional slot' quite easily. Applications to be in by 4th May. Now THAT looks like a REAL gardening job with a proper measure of journalism and programme-making too. -- Brian |
Head Gardener for Gardener's World wanted
Sacha wrote: Brian Watson wrote: "Sacha" wrote in message ups.com... In a trade mag. today " Seven months contract. Responsible for maintaining and developing the BBC's flagship garden at Berryfields in Warwickshire, you'll need to balance the demands of a hands-on gardening role with the ability to manage a small off-screen team. You mean the presenters don't really do all the planning and work they pretend to do? Gasp! Amazing, innit? ;-) A great many years ago, one of the then famous TV gardening presenters came to Jersey to do a programme and part of it was shot at my outlaws garden. We were all there watching for the great man to do his thing. He was one of the real 'sons of the soil' types, down to earth, long-term garden expert etc. There was to be a piece of him planting a shrub in one of the borders and then chatting to my outlaws about their garden. Before the piece was done, we were all absolutely gobsmacked to see a minion walk over, dig what was really quite a small hole and tidily place both shovel and shrub beside it so that the 'star' could simply lower plant into hole on camera! that is not fair; who was it?? Please please. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon |
Head Gardener for Gardener's World wanted
Please please.
Not on your life. ;-) :-)) I know 'just' what you mean. We had an International Entertainment Artist in the next Stateroom to ours on our recent cruise and it would be very unethical to state a name and the content of our conversations. Of course 'some people' would name drop, but sorry, having met very many famous people in my time, that is not my cup of tea :-)) Mike -- ------------------------------------------------ Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association www.rnshipmates.co.uk International Festival of the Sea 28th June - 1st July 2007 |
Head Gardener for Gardener's World wanted
OK then.
We now have some so called gardening presenters and a head gardener ?? As a head gardener nowadays is a suit and tie job. So who actually does all the work. Where do all the gardeners come from, is there an agency for contract gardeners, or is the whole job put out to contract ?? Now THAT looks like a REAL gardening job with a proper measure of journalism and programme-making too. |
Head Gardener for Gardener's World wanted
OK they have advertised for a head gardener, do they also advertise
for the team. IRL, Head gardeners and their team. Janet |
Head Gardener for Gardener's World wanted
Janet Baraclough wrote: The message from Mr Big contains these words: OK then. We now have some so called gardening presenters and a head gardener ?? As a head gardener nowadays is a suit and tie job. It isn't. Head gardeners I know (real life, not media) wear jeans (both sexes). So who actually does all the work. IRL, Head gardeners and their team. I was looking at the Abbey Gardens site yesterday and saw that while Mike Nelhams who is the Curator of the garden does many lecture tours, as we knew, so does the Head Gardener *and* the Propagator does cruise lectures. Obviously, these can be jobs with both more interest and more lucrative interest than many of us had realised! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon |
Head Gardener for Gardener's World wanted
IRL, Head gardeners and their team. I was looking at the Abbey Gardens site yesterday and saw that while Mike Nelhams who is the Curator of the garden does many lecture tours, as we knew, so does the Head Gardener *and* the Propagator does cruise lectures. Obviously, these can be jobs with both more interest and more lucrative interest than many of us had realised! -- Sacha During the various different legs of our Cruise Around the World on Aurora during January, February and March this year, we had many Gerden themed lectures by guest speakers ranging from the Gardens at Buckingham Palace, Kew Gardens and talks on Flower growing for display amongst others. Each of the five legs, Southampton to San Fransisco, San Francisco to Sydney, Sydney to Hong Kong, Hong Kong to Mumbai and Mumbai to Southampton had a different set of Theme Lectures and Star Entertainers and Cabaret Stars, one of which had the State Rom next to ours:-)) Anyone never having been cruising, it is strongly recommended as these artists/lectures are travelling with you and are available for a 'friendly chat'. And if you are into painting and photography, there are lessons/instruction on these themes as well. Want to get your garden water colour painting up to perfection? Take a long cruise :-)) Always well attended. Mike -- ------------------------------------------------ Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association www.rnshipmates.co.uk International Festival of the Sea 28th June - 1st July 2007 |
Head Gardener for Gardener's World wanted
"Mike" wrote in message ... Please please. Not on your life. ;-) :-)) I know 'just' what you mean. We had an International Entertainment Artist in the next Stateroom to ours on our recent cruise and it would be very unethical to state a name and the content of our conversations. Of course 'some people' would name drop, but sorry, having met very many famous people in my time, that is not my cup of tea :-)) While I agree with your general point, it sounds like the gardener referred to was "performing", and as such is fair game IMO. -- Brian "Fight like the Devil, die like a gentleman." |
Head Gardener for Gardener's World wanted
On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 6:06:15 +0100, Brian Watson wrote
(in message ): "Sacha" wrote in message ups.com... In a trade mag. today " Seven months contract. Responsible for maintaining and developing the BBC's flagship garden at Berryfields in Warwickshire, you'll need to balance the demands of a hands-on gardening role with the ability to manage a small off-screen team. You mean the presenters don't really do all the planning and work they pretend to do? Gasp! I must be a bit naive, or maybe I just like to think these people are for real. So, what this implies is- (correct me if I'm wrong)- when I watch Gardener's World and I see these various tv gardeners apparently all working quite hard to maintain the Berryfields garden and explaining what they are doing for the benefit of the viewers, and the camera neatly moves from one gardener doing one thing to another gardener doing another, it is not only stage managed so that it all dovetails together fairlly neatly in order to make it into a tv programme, BUT ALSO they are not really maintaining the garden as they appear to be but are in fact PRETENDING and it is really being done by others! It's all contrived and they are in fact acting. Sorry, I need to say it in order to comprehend and believe it..... -- VX (remove alcohol for email) |
Head Gardener for Gardener's World wanted
Janet Baraclough wrote: The message .com from "Sacha" contains these words: I was looking at the Abbey Gardens site yesterday and saw that while Mike Nelhams who is the Curator of the garden does many lecture tours, as we knew, so does the Head Gardener *and* the Propagator does cruise lectures. Obviously, these can be jobs with both more interest and more lucrative interest than many of us had realised! Hm.. they can certainly involve some interesting travel, (one I know advises to China's botanical gardens, and cruise tours come to him and his gardens -:) but according to him there's little money in it; he does it for the love and is glad to break even. True, they get tied houses, (usually in a beautiful place but invariably somewhat decrepit and expensive to heat), but it means their home is hostage to employer, health, and eventually, retirement. Unless they bought property before the 80's price boom, there is little hope that the savings from such modest wages will buy a place of their own on retirement; and highly qualified undergardeners earning 12K have little chance of raising a useful mortgage. Obviously, I can't go into detail but I will say that of those I know who do this as a 'sideline', I know that not only were they wise enough to invest in their own property at the right time and let it, the tied houses are really lovely in themselves. Talking of the Tresco estate, it really is very well run and I think it's fair to say that those employed there are extremely well treated and have been given the opportunity to take part in the forward planning, in the sense that they have been able to say whether they want to stay on the island or leave it when they retire. If they opt to stay, they're housed, even if they have to move out of the house they occupied while working. Whether they do or don't pay rent, I don't know. In the case of another totally different location, the head gardener and his wife who was housekeeper, were left the house they live in for their lifetime, rent-free. After that, it reverts to the owners of the main property. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon |
Head Gardener for Gardener's World wanted
:-((
'Here's one I did earlier' ;-( Mike -- ------------------------------------------------ Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association www.rnshipmates.co.uk International Festival of the Sea 28th June - 1st July 2007 |
Head Gardener for Gardener's World wanted
VX wrote: snip I must be a bit naive, or maybe I just like to think these people are for real. So, what this implies is- (correct me if I'm wrong)- when I watch Gardener's World and I see these various tv gardeners apparently all working quite hard to maintain the Berryfields garden and explaining what they are doing for the benefit of the viewers, and the camera neatly moves from one gardener doing one thing to another gardener doing another, it is not only stage managed so that it all dovetails together fairlly neatly in order to make it into a tv programme, BUT ALSO they are not really maintaining the garden as they appear to be but are in fact PRETENDING and it is really being done by others! It's all contrived and they are in fact acting. Sorry, I need to say it in order to comprehend and believe it..... But of course they don't all do all the work! They probably know how to do the work, they probably have quite a bit of input on the design - or some of them do - but how CAN all of them work full time at maintaining the Berryfields garden and be paid by the BBC, a notoriously ungenerous employer? All of them have other jobs or businesses, Carol Klein has a nursery in Devon and a small garden open to the public, for example. Joe Swift is a garden designer and he won't make a living out of doing that for the Beeb alone! They write books and make personal appearances. Charlie Dimmock has a page in one of the nationals every week but I don't suppose for a second that she actually constructs every water feature she advises upon. But to call it acting is, I think, a bit strong. They ARE gardening people, they do make their living through gardening and plants. If you mean they don't dig over every border and bed, no of course they don't. They're not jobbing gardeners. They've been given their jobs because they are considered to be good at presenting garden information to a widely differing-in-experience audience. Interior designers may make a beautiful job of designing someone's home but they don't slap the paint on the wall themselves. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon |
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