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[email protected] 08-05-2006 09:05 PM

How do I protect a hedge from the local kids?
 
We have a 6ft high hedge at the front of our house that the local
schoolkids and others seem to delight in throwing themselves and others
into, resulting in great holes in the thing. It's beginning to look
thoroughly miserable.

I've emailed the local headmaster but not yet had a response. No doubt
he'll be sympathetic but not sure he'll be able to do much to help. I'm
also slightly reluctant to become the bloke who grassed them up. I
don't want to become a target of something worse.

It looks like the best thing I can do is to spoil their fun in some
other way. Obviously I could plant something tougher and pricklier but
this will take too long. It's tempting to wrap barbed wire round it but
no doubt I'd end up getting sued.

Looks like the best thing might be some sturdy posts and a horizontal
railing or two to deter them, though logistically that won't be that
easy as the hedge juts out a bit.

Any other ideas?

Thanks

Will


StsAlive 08-05-2006 09:54 PM

How do I protect a hedge from the local kids?
 

wrote in message
ups.com...
We have a 6ft high hedge at the front of our house that the local
schoolkids and others seem to delight in throwing themselves and others
into, resulting in great holes in the thing. It's beginning to look
thoroughly miserable.

I've emailed the local headmaster but not yet had a response. No doubt
he'll be sympathetic but not sure he'll be able to do much to help. I'm
also slightly reluctant to become the bloke who grassed them up. I
don't want to become a target of something worse.

It looks like the best thing I can do is to spoil their fun in some
other way. Obviously I could plant something tougher and pricklier but
this will take too long. It's tempting to wrap barbed wire round it but
no doubt I'd end up getting sued.

Looks like the best thing might be some sturdy posts and a horizontal
railing or two to deter them, though logistically that won't be that
easy as the hedge juts out a bit.

Any other ideas?

Thanks

Will


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long gone...........

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H Ryder 08-05-2006 10:15 PM

How do I protect a hedge from the local kids?
 
Are you worried about how tidy the front of teh hedge looks? If not then you
could grow stinging nettles along teh bottom. Alternatively borrow a big dog
for a few weeks :)

--
Hayley
(gardening on well drained, alkaline clay in Somerset)



Hugh Jampton 08-05-2006 10:38 PM

How do I protect a hedge from the local kids?
 
On 8 May 2006 13:05:59 -0700, wrote:

We have a 6ft high hedge at the front of our house that the local
schoolkids and others seem to delight in throwing themselves and others
into, resulting in great holes in the thing. It's beginning to look
thoroughly miserable.


Same problem here - hedge a horrible mess. Can't see a solution - children
rule in this sad country of ours and they know it. Read last week of a 66
year old lady who dared to confront a gang of 14 year olds throwing stones
at her car - she was arrested and spent the night in prison :-(

Whatever action you take, you will be wrong and the children will be
right:-(
--
Regards,

Hugh Jampton

[email protected] 08-05-2006 10:58 PM

How do I protect a hedge from the local kids?
 
Are you worried about how tidy the front of teh hedge looks? If not then you
could grow stinging nettles along teh bottom. Alternatively borrow a
big dog
for a few weeks :)

We thought about stinging nettles but I tended to think this might just
increase the pleasure of the kids in pushing each other into the hedge!


George.com 09-05-2006 08:29 AM

How do I protect a hedge from the local kids?
 

wrote in message
ups.com...
We have a 6ft high hedge at the front of our house that the local
schoolkids and others seem to delight in throwing themselves and others
into, resulting in great holes in the thing. It's beginning to look
thoroughly miserable.

I've emailed the local headmaster but not yet had a response. No doubt
he'll be sympathetic but not sure he'll be able to do much to help. I'm
also slightly reluctant to become the bloke who grassed them up. I
don't want to become a target of something worse.

It looks like the best thing I can do is to spoil their fun in some
other way. Obviously I could plant something tougher and pricklier but
this will take too long. It's tempting to wrap barbed wire round it but
no doubt I'd end up getting sued.

Looks like the best thing might be some sturdy posts and a horizontal
railing or two to deter them, though logistically that won't be that
easy as the hedge juts out a bit.

Any other ideas?

Thanks

Will


how about spraying something really foul smelling (but benign) on the hedge.
Any lad going head long in to it will get covered in the smell. I cannot
give you many suggestions as to what it may be put a very strong poop tea
may do it. I brew disgusting liquid fertiliser which smells to buggery. It
will also be good for the tree. Have a look around a hardware maybe or rent
a skunk.

rob



[email protected] 09-05-2006 08:38 AM

How do I protect a hedge from the local kids?
 
Why are they congregating outside your house?

They're not. They just walk past on their way to school. Thanks for the
other suggestion.

how about spraying something really foul smelling (but benign) on the hedge.

Any lad going head long in to it will get covered in the smell.

Interesting idea though again, I wonder if this would just increase the
tempatation to push your mate into it...? !


Brian Watson 09-05-2006 08:50 AM

How do I protect a hedge from the local kids?
 

wrote in message
ups.com...
We have a 6ft high hedge at the front of our house that the local
schoolkids and others seem to delight in throwing themselves and others
into, resulting in great holes in the thing. It's beginning to look
thoroughly miserable.

I've emailed the local headmaster but not yet had a response. No doubt
he'll be sympathetic but not sure he'll be able to do much to help. I'm
also slightly reluctant to become the bloke who grassed them up. I
don't want to become a target of something worse.

It looks like the best thing I can do is to spoil their fun in some
other way.


Puff a load of talc into the hedge.

They will assume they have been poisoned by antkiller or somesuch and may
also get Hell from their parent when they get home.

--
Brian
"Fight like the Devil, die like a gentleman."



George.com 09-05-2006 11:45 AM

How do I protect a hedge from the local kids?
 

"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
...
The message .com
from contains these words:

Why are they congregating outside your house?


They're not. They just walk past on their way to school. Thanks for the
other suggestion.


how about spraying something really foul smelling (but benign) on
the hedge.

Any lad going head long in to it will get covered in the smell.


Interesting idea though again, I wonder if this would just increase the
tempatation to push your mate into it...? !


Worth a try. You would then have the stinking mate's mother and
friends on your side, applying a double pronged deterrent of social
rejection and nagging. The ideal stink to apply, would be comfrey tea. A
bucket of comfrey leaves soaked in a barrel of water for two weeks. This
is also a good plant fertiliser, so you have a perfectly rational excuse
to water it over the outside of the hedge . Just be warned, it really is
a disgusting stink. The kids will run past fast but you'lll be living
with it all day.

Fertilise your hedge in the morning, at lunch time and just before
home time, and they'll all be crossing the road to avoid your place.

Janet


I was thinking about maybe a tea brewed up with rancid cat poop. Collect a
decent amount, leave it in a plastic bag for a few days, brew for a week or
2 and then liberally apply to the hedge. Alternately some nicely rotting
road kill is a big bucket of water. Here in NZ we have fly traps which you
bait with a sachet mixed with water. After a day or 2 in the sun the water
mix smells vile. You may be able to get something similar in england.

rob



George.com 09-05-2006 11:48 AM

How do I protect a hedge from the local kids?
 

"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
...
The message .com
from contains these words:

Why are they congregating outside your house?


They're not. They just walk past on their way to school. Thanks for the
other suggestion.


how about spraying something really foul smelling (but benign) on
the hedge.

Any lad going head long in to it will get covered in the smell.


Interesting idea though again, I wonder if this would just increase the
tempatation to push your mate into it...? !


Worth a try. You would then have the stinking mate's mother and
friends on your side, applying a double pronged deterrent of social
rejection and nagging.


if a lad went to school stinking I doubt his teachers would look on it very
favourably and he may be going home fairly quickly for a bath. Getting home
in school time may not make mum or dad very happy either.

Please, do let us know the results of your trial, what perfume you used and
any complaints you gather as a result.

rob



[email protected] 09-05-2006 01:37 PM

How do I protect a hedge from the local kids?
 

wrote:

Looks like the best thing might be some sturdy posts and a horizontal
railing or two to deter them, though logistically that won't be that
easy as the hedge juts out a bit.



Ah, so you're one of those houseowners who lets their hedge grow half
way across the pavement? Railings in front of the hedge would work.


Scotty22 09-05-2006 03:02 PM

Grow some bramble bushes inside the bush your trying to protect, and enjoy the benefits of rasberries/blackberries and protection for your bush. Just keep in under control :D:D

H Ryder 09-05-2006 03:22 PM

How do I protect a hedge from the local kids?
 
if a lad went to school stinking I doubt his teachers would look on it
very
favourably and he may be going home fairly quickly for a bath.


speaking as a teacher that is unlikely - you cannot just send kids home that
easily any more.

--
Hayley
(gardening on well drained, alkaline clay in Somerset)




Sue 09-05-2006 04:19 PM

How do I protect a hedge from the local kids?
 


--
Derby, England.

Don't try to email me using "REPLY" as the email address is NoSpam. Our
email address is "thewoodies2 at ntlworld dot com"



Puff a load of talc into the hedge.


They would not want to arrive home smelling nice either!!





Draven 09-05-2006 04:53 PM

How do I protect a hedge from the local kids?
 

wrote in message
ups.com...
We have a 6ft high hedge at the front of our house that the local
schoolkids and others seem to delight in throwing themselves and others
into, resulting in great holes in the thing. It's beginning to look
thoroughly miserable.

I've emailed the local headmaster but not yet had a response. No doubt
he'll be sympathetic but not sure he'll be able to do much to help. I'm
also slightly reluctant to become the bloke who grassed them up. I
don't want to become a target of something worse.

It looks like the best thing I can do is to spoil their fun in some
other way. Obviously I could plant something tougher and pricklier but
this will take too long. It's tempting to wrap barbed wire round it but
no doubt I'd end up getting sued.

Looks like the best thing might be some sturdy posts and a horizontal
railing or two to deter them, though logistically that won't be that
easy as the hedge juts out a bit.

Any other ideas?

Thanks

Will


I totally sympathise with you.
Round my parts kids use the hedges as football goal nets. It's not much fun
for hedge owners.

I am currently, foolishly I may add, trying to grow a front hedge using box.

Years to grow and it will take just minutes for kids, with a football, to
wreck it.
I must be mad for trying.



someone here 09-05-2006 08:29 PM

How do I protect a hedge from the local kids?
 

"Scotty22" wrote in message
...

Grow some bramble bushes inside the bush your trying to protect, and
enjoy the benefits of rasberries/blackberries and protection for your
bush. Just keep in under control :D:D

But be aware that if anyone hurts themselves on your bramble,
you could be held liable for their injuries.

The sad state of Nanny Blairs England



Mike Lyle 09-05-2006 10:13 PM

How do I protect a hedge from the local kids?
 

someone here wrote:
"Scotty22" wrote in message
...

Grow some bramble bushes inside the bush your trying to protect, and
enjoy the benefits of rasberries/blackberries and protection for your
bush. Just keep in under control :D:D

But be aware that if anyone hurts themselves on your bramble,
you could be held liable for their injuries.

The sad state of Nanny Blairs England


You may find that legal actions for personal injury go back a little
further than New Labour: the Code of the celebrated Iraqi Hammurabi
comes to mind, and that was nearly four thousand years ago.

--
Mike.


the_constructor 10-05-2006 02:13 PM

How do I protect a hedge from the local kids?
 

"Mike Lyle" wrote in message
oups.com...

someone here wrote:
"Scotty22" wrote in message
...

Grow some bramble bushes inside the bush your trying to protect, and
enjoy the benefits of rasberries/blackberries and protection for your
bush. Just keep in under control :D:D

But be aware that if anyone hurts themselves on your bramble,
you could be held liable for their injuries.

The sad state of Nanny Blairs England


You may find that legal actions for personal injury go back a little
further than New Labour: the Code of the celebrated Iraqi Hammurabi
comes to mind, and that was nearly four thousand years ago.

--
Mike.


Where I live, we have Speight's of hedge hoppers (kids) and the local Police
advised everyone at the local Residents Association meeting to plant very
prickly bushes in their gardens. This way, if anyone injures themselves then
it is their own faults, they should not have been there, and it is not
against the law to plant these types of bushes. They also said that they
would take no action if the kids complained.
--
the_constructor.



Sue 10-05-2006 02:39 PM

How do I protect a hedge from the local kids?
 

"the_constructor" wrote

Where I live, we have Speight's of hedge hoppers (kids) and the local
Police advised everyone at the local Residents Association meeting to
plant very prickly bushes in their gardens. This way, if anyone
injures themselves then it is their own faults, they should not have
been there, and it is not against the law to plant these types of
bushes. They also said that they would take no action if the kids
complained.


Trimmed prickly boundary hedges are one thing but bramble canes, which
were suggested somewhere upthread, are a bit of a different matter if
you allow them to grow out from your property over a public footpath
though - and they can grow quickly. You might very well be liable for
damages if someone got hurt by one whipping about in the wind. I know of
someone who lost an eye like this.

--
Sue







[email protected] 10-05-2006 04:41 PM

How do I protect a hedge from the local kids?
 

Sue wrote:
"the_constructor" wrote


Trimmed prickly boundary hedges are one thing but bramble canes, which
were suggested somewhere upthread, are a bit of a different matter if
you allow them to grow out from your property over a public footpath
though - and they can grow quickly. You might very well be liable for
damages if someone got hurt by one whipping about in the wind. I know of
someone who lost an eye like this.

--
Sue


I've mentioned it before, if the hedge isn't overhanging the pavement
you could probably put up railings. If it is overhanging then cut it
back. I get a bit peaved when I have to step into the road to avoid
walking into peoples hedges.


[email protected] 10-05-2006 05:40 PM

How do I protect a hedge from the local kids?
 
I've mentioned it before, if the hedge isn't overhanging the pavement
you could probably put up railings. If it is overhanging then cut it
back. I get a bit peaved when I have to step into the road to avoid
walking into peoples hedges.

That's not a fair point when you don't know the situation. Yes, of
course, the hedge grows outwards over the pavement but only by a few
inches. I don't see how I could ensure that it didn't encroach at all
without destroying the hedge myself. The key point is that the pavement
is wide (at least 10 feet), and there is no unreasonable encroachment,
and certainly not enough to justify pushing each other into it. Even if
it was cut back a few inches, I don't see why that would make the kids
want to stop doing it.


Alan Holmes 10-05-2006 06:58 PM

How do I protect a hedge from the local kids?
 

wrote in message
oups.com...
Why are they congregating outside your house?


They're not. They just walk past on their way to school. Thanks for the
other suggestion.

how about spraying something really foul smelling (but benign) on the
hedge.

Any lad going head long in to it will get covered in the smell.

Interesting idea though again, I wonder if this would just increase the
tempatation to push your mate into it...? !


Horse manure would help, I would think that their parents would say
something to them if they came home covered in it, the smell alone may put
them off.

Alan






someone here 10-05-2006 07:07 PM

How do I protect a hedge from the local kids?
 

"the_constructor" wrote in message
...

"Mike Lyle" wrote in message
oups.com...

someone here wrote:
"Scotty22" wrote in message
...

Grow some bramble bushes inside the bush your trying to protect, and
enjoy the benefits of rasberries/blackberries and protection for your
bush. Just keep in under control :D:D

But be aware that if anyone hurts themselves on your bramble,
you could be held liable for their injuries.

The sad state of Nanny Blairs England


You may find that legal actions for personal injury go back a little
further than New Labour: the Code of the celebrated Iraqi Hammurabi
comes to mind, and that was nearly four thousand years ago.

--
Mike.


Where I live, we have Speight's of hedge hoppers (kids) and the local

Police
advised everyone at the local Residents Association meeting to plant very
prickly bushes in their gardens. This way, if anyone injures themselves

then
it is their own faults, they should not have been there, and it is not
against the law to plant these types of bushes. They also said that they
would take no action if the kids complained.


Different interpretations of the law.
Our police force will:-
Take action against you if you cause damage to someone, even if their being
there is proven to be illegal.
ie they scaled a six foot high wall into a yard and cut themselves on the
sharp plough that was parked inside.

If you are personally assaulted, they will take no action if you fought back
and injured one of your attackers.

We have been told to remove spiky plants from hedging which adjoins a public
footpath. Also advised that it should not be
near any access path to the property.

YMMV



VX 10-05-2006 10:21 PM

How do I protect a hedge from the local kids?
 
On Tue, 9 May 2006 15:02:22 +0100, Scotty22 wrote
(in message ):

Grow some bramble bushes inside the bush your trying to protect, and
enjoy the benefits of rasberries/blackberries and protection for your
bush. Just keep in under control :D:D


These are very nasty things if you collide with one unexpectedly! I recently
had to deal with a very tenacious yet totally dead and dried out bramble
branch that had been this way for some time- I got caught uip in it before I
realised what it was. These do not need to be alive to be nasty- the thorns
seem to work perfectly for a long time afterwards- probably until the whole
thing eventually rots and falls apart- which could take a long time. The
drying out means a dead branch gets a lot thinner and less dangerous-looking,
but it stays quite strong and stringy nevertheless. If someone put something
like this inside the front of a hedge, the hooking action of the thorns means
they would probably stay in place for a while- and if it ever arises one
could claim somebody must have put them there. I'm wondering about this whole
area myself as I have a young rose hedge and may need to consider a fence to
go in front of that. It has belatedly occurred to me that some totally
innocent little kid could get pushed into it, and that bothers me.
--
VX (remove alcohol for email)



Me 11-05-2006 04:18 PM

How do I protect a hedge from the local kids?
 

wrote in message
oups.com...

wrote:
I've mentioned it before, if the hedge isn't overhanging the pavement

you could probably put up railings. If it is overhanging then cut it
back. I get a bit peaved when I have to step into the road to avoid
walking into peoples hedges.

That's not a fair point when you don't know the situation. Yes, of
course, the hedge grows outwards over the pavement but only by a few
inches. I don't see how I could ensure that it didn't encroach at all
without destroying the hedge myself. The key point is that the pavement
is wide (at least 10 feet), and there is no unreasonable encroachment,
and certainly not enough to justify pushing each other into it. Even if
it was cut back a few inches, I don't see why that would make the kids
want to stop doing it.


Cut it back enough to put up railings or a rail then let the hedge grow
into the railings. You could brace the railings from within the hedge
to give extra stability. Kids won't be jumping into a railing for fun.


That might solve half the problem, but add to the other half... that of them
throwing other kids into the hedge?

Me



[email protected] 12-05-2006 07:54 AM

How do I protect a hedge from the local kids?
 
Cut it back enough to put up railings or a rail then let the hedge grow
into the railings. You could brace the railings from within the hedge
to give extra stability. Kids won't be jumping into a railing for fun.


That might solve half the problem, but add to the other half... that of them
throwing other kids into the hedge?


They push each other into it rather than throw each other into it, and
I think that there would be no 'fun' in doing this if there was a rail.



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