Help identifying plant/weed?
Hello to the group,
Can anyone help me identify this plant/weed, that has currently spread to roughly 2 feet square. Here is a picture of 2 separate plants within the area that it covers. http://www.kingsfamily.co.uk/images/weed.jpg http://www.kingsfamily.co.uk/images/weed2.jpg Thankyou Ian |
Help identifying plant/weed?
serialthrilla writes
Hello to the group, Can anyone help me identify this plant/weed, that has currently spread to roughly 2 feet square. Here is a picture of 2 separate plants within the area that it covers. http://www.kingsfamily.co.uk/images/weed.jpg http://www.kingsfamily.co.uk/images/weed2.jpg Difficult to tell at this young stage. You say that it has 'currently spread to roughly 2 ft square' - do you mean this has spread by runners, or is it more, as appears from the pic, that you have young seedlings in a 2ft square patch? If the latter, it could be Geum urbanum, but you'd need to let it grow a bit more to be sure. -- Kay |
Help identifying plant/weed?
"K" wrote in message ... serialthrilla writes Hello to the group, Can anyone help me identify this plant/weed, that has currently spread to roughly 2 feet square. Here is a picture of 2 separate plants within the area that it covers. http://www.kingsfamily.co.uk/images/weed.jpg http://www.kingsfamily.co.uk/images/weed2.jpg Difficult to tell at this young stage. You say that it has 'currently spread to roughly 2 ft square' - do you mean this has spread by runners, or is it more, as appears from the pic, that you have young seedlings in a 2ft square patch? If the latter, it could be Geum urbanum, but you'd need to let it grow a bit more to be sure. -- Kay If its Geum urbanum I wouldn't wait to find out, am still failing to get rid of it 20 years on after getting its seed from the RHS seed list and assuming it would be interesting, some students revenge for a bad day no doubt! -- Charlie, gardening in Cornwall. http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs) |
Help identifying plant/weed?
Charlie Pridham writes
If its Geum urbanum I wouldn't wait to find out, am still failing to get rid of it 20 years on after getting its seed from the RHS seed list and assuming it would be interesting, some students revenge for a bad day no doubt! That's the advantage of gardeners taking an interest in wild flowers - I'd have known exactly what you were getting ;-) I find it's very useful to have a wild flower guide at my elbow while reading the Chiltern catalogue, for similar reasons. (Chiltern are no different from any other seed merchant in their ability to highlight the good points of their plants, but they have a more adventurous range than most) -- Kay |
Help identifying plant/weed?
In message , K
writes serialthrilla writes Hello to the group, Can anyone help me identify this plant/weed, that has currently spread to roughly 2 feet square. Here is a picture of 2 separate plants within the area that it covers. http://www.kingsfamily.co.uk/images/weed.jpg http://www.kingsfamily.co.uk/images/weed2.jpg Difficult to tell at this young stage. You say that it has 'currently spread to roughly 2 ft square' - do you mean this has spread by runners, or is it more, as appears from the pic, that you have young seedlings in a 2ft square patch? If the latter, it could be Geum urbanum, but you'd need to let it grow a bit more to be sure. The books say that Geum has pinnate leaves, not simple leaves as in the photos. My first thought was ground-ivy (Glechoma), or a speedwell (Veronica). Other possibilities, from scanning Keble-Martin, are violets (Viola) or dead-nettles (Lamium). The venation pattern doen't seem to be right for Veronica, the Violas have acute leaf apices and less prominent marginal crenation, and the leaves of Glechoma have cordate bases. Assuming that I'm not being misled by juvenile leaves having a different form from those of the mature plant, I'd plump for henbit dead-nettle (Lamium amplexicaule) or northern dead-nettle (Lamium intermedium). I've never seen either of these - henbit dead-nettle is commoner in the east, and northern dead-nettle in Scotland and Ireland. (And I've found that if I want to use my image files for plant identification I need to take more photographs of leaves.) -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
Help identifying plant/weed?
Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote: The books say that Geum has pinnate leaves, not simple leaves as in the photos. The young leaves of geum are not pinnate - as they grow the leaf changes and devide in 3 parts. The stems of geums however are hairy. The one on the photo is not. Can the OP take a picture of an older plant? That would help. |
Help identifying plant/weed?
Stewart Robert Hinsley writes
In message , K writes serialthrilla writes Hello to the group, Can anyone help me identify this plant/weed, that has currently spread to roughly 2 feet square. Here is a picture of 2 separate plants within the area that it covers. http://www.kingsfamily.co.uk/images/weed.jpg http://www.kingsfamily.co.uk/images/weed2.jpg Difficult to tell at this young stage. You say that it has 'currently spread to roughly 2 ft square' - do you mean this has spread by runners, or is it more, as appears from the pic, that you have young seedlings in a 2ft square patch? If the latter, it could be Geum urbanum, but you'd need to let it grow a bit more to be sure. The books say that Geum has pinnate leaves, not simple leaves as in the photos. Geum does indeed have pinnate leaves. But the first few leaves at seedling stage are simple. I should know - I grow them by the thousand ;-) My first thought was ground-ivy (Glechoma), Doesn't look soft enough or a speedwell (Veronica). Other possibilities, from scanning Keble-Martin, are violets (Viola) Wrong leaf texture again, and outline doesn't look quite right - I think the edge is too indented - oops, you've said that below. or dead-nettles (Lamium). The venation pattern doen't seem to be right for Veronica, the Violas have acute leaf apices and less prominent marginal crenation, and the leaves of Glechoma have cordate bases. Assuming that I'm not being misled by juvenile leaves having a different form from those of the mature plant, I think you're being misled ;-) I'd plump for henbit dead-nettle (Lamium amplexicaule) or northern dead-nettle (Lamium intermedium). I've never seen either of these - henbit dead-nettle is commoner in the east, and northern dead-nettle in Scotland and Ireland. (And I've found that if I want to use my image files for plant identification I need to take more photographs of leaves.) IF it wasn't for the fact he's got a two ft square patch of the things, I'd also be thinking of perhaps Heuchera. -- Kay |
Help identifying plant/weed?
"Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote in message ... In message , K writes serialthrilla writes Hello to the group, Can anyone help me identify this plant/weed, that has currently spread to roughly 2 feet square. Here is a picture of 2 separate plants within the area that it covers. http://www.kingsfamily.co.uk/images/weed.jpg http://www.kingsfamily.co.uk/images/weed2.jpg Difficult to tell at this young stage. You say that it has 'currently spread to roughly 2 ft square' - do you mean this has spread by runners, or is it more, as appears from the pic, that you have young seedlings in a 2ft square patch? If the latter, it could be Geum urbanum, but you'd need to let it grow a bit more to be sure. The books say that Geum has pinnate leaves, not simple leaves as in the photos. My first thought was ground-ivy (Glechoma), or a speedwell (Veronica). Other possibilities, from scanning Keble-Martin, are violets (Viola) or dead-nettles (Lamium). The venation pattern doen't seem to be right for Veronica, the Violas have acute leaf apices and less prominent marginal crenation, and the leaves of Glechoma have cordate bases. Assuming that I'm not being misled by juvenile leaves having a different form from those of the mature plant, I'd plump for henbit dead-nettle (Lamium amplexicaule) or northern dead-nettle (Lamium intermedium). I've never seen either of these - henbit dead-nettle is commoner in the east, and northern dead-nettle in Scotland and Ireland. (And I've found that if I want to use my image files for plant identification I need to take more photographs of leaves.) -- Stewart Robert Hinsley I would go along with the dead nettle suggestion but the roots don't look quite like any of the Lamiums I have got. My guess is Lunaria -Honestly:-) |
Help identifying plant/weed?
Rupert (W.Yorkshire) wrote: I would go along with the dead nettle suggestion but the roots don't look quite like any of the Lamiums I have got. My guess is Lunaria -Honestly:-) Nope. Not lunaria. I'm growing lots of them and they are not like this at all. |
Help identifying plant/weed?
K wrote: Geum does indeed have pinnate leaves. But the first few leaves at seedling stage are simple. I should know - I grow them by the thousand ;-) Ditto :o) Got a yellow one this year by accident too. I'm not too happy though but it'll do. (snip) I think you're being misled ;-) Indeedee. The young leaves are often missleading. I hope the OP will keep a few and mature one so we can see what develops! IF it wasn't for the fact he's got a two ft square patch of the things, I'd also be thinking of perhaps Heuchera. I'll stick with the geum urbanum. I grow Heuchera and find the first leaves more pinate than the OP's picture. This is the first leaves of the geum urbanum - a real pest in my garden, but I keep a few in the gravel path for softness :o) http://cjoint.com/?foab3gipWz |
Help identifying plant/weed?
"La Puce" wrote in
oups.com: Rupert (W.Yorkshire) wrote: I would go along with the dead nettle suggestion but the roots don't look quite like any of the Lamiums I have got. My guess is Lunaria -Honestly:-) Nope. Not lunaria. I'm growing lots of them and they are not like this at all. A big thankyou to all that have contributed, and as suggested I think I will leave it for the time being and wait and see what develops. I shall keep the group (for those interested) updated as the plant grows. Ian |
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