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Plant IDs please - worrisit ?
Dear all,
A few more plant IDs if you'd be so kind.... Some of these I want to get rid of, others I just want to know what they are. Sorry - I don't know much about plants.... Photos are he The first one is two plants growing in a bed. One with coarse leaves, the other with fine leaves and little white flowers. OK - there's more than 2 different plants growing there, but 2 main ones.... http://adm.smugmug.com/gallery/1401195/1/72550441 Next up is a big tall gangly thing that looks as if it's about to flower. Currently the flower tips are about 5 feet high. http://adm.smugmug.com/gallery/1401195/1/72550446 For your pleasure, a thistly/ferny looking plant growing well in the rockery (growing so well, you can't see any rocks....) http://adm.smugmug.com/gallery/1401195/1/72550453 Next suspect is a horrible looking thing. Kind of hempy looking long fingered leaves and an almost segmented looking main stem. Sickly light green flower heads, but never seems to actually flower. This is quite invasive, but is pulled up easily. http://adm.smugmug.com/gallery/1401195/1/72550462 This one is an almost cactussy looking thing. Thick leaves, almost dusty green in colour. http://adm.smugmug.com/gallery/1401195/1/72550471 Finally, a lovely big purple flowering tree/bush/thing. This looks spectacular in is about 10 feet tall. http://adm.smugmug.com/gallery/1401195/1/72550373 Well - any help gratefully received. I have an RHS plant encyclopedia, but can seem to identify anything from it - all the pictures show flowers, and none of these plants have any (apart from the purple tree/bush)..... Is there an online resource anyone knows of to identify plants just from their leaves and shape ? |
Plant IDs please - worrisit ?
adm wrote: Dear all, A few more plant IDs if you'd be so kind.... Some of these I want to get rid of, others I just want to know what they are. Sorry - I don't know much about plants.... Photos are he The first one is two plants growing in a bed. One with coarse leaves, the other with fine leaves and little white flowers. OK - there's more than 2 different plants growing there, but 2 main ones.... http://adm.smugmug.com/gallery/1401195/1/72550441 Next up is a big tall gangly thing that looks as if it's about to flower. Currently the flower tips are about 5 feet high. http://adm.smugmug.com/gallery/1401195/1/72550446 For your pleasure, a thistly/ferny looking plant growing well in the rockery (growing so well, you can't see any rocks....) http://adm.smugmug.com/gallery/1401195/1/72550453 Acanthus spinosa? Has tall creamy pink flower heads. Is a nice plant that grows into a big clump (as it has done on yer rockery). Next suspect is a horrible looking thing. Kind of hempy looking long fingered leaves and an almost segmented looking main stem. Sickly light green flower heads, but never seems to actually flower. This is quite invasive, but is pulled up easily. http://adm.smugmug.com/gallery/1401195/1/72550462 This one is an almost cactussy looking thing. Thick leaves, almost dusty green in colour. http://adm.smugmug.com/gallery/1401195/1/72550471 Finally, a lovely big purple flowering tree/bush/thing. This looks spectacular in is about 10 feet tall. http://adm.smugmug.com/gallery/1401195/1/72550373 Well - any help gratefully received. I have an RHS plant encyclopedia, but can seem to identify anything from it - all the pictures show flowers, and none of these plants have any (apart from the purple tree/bush)..... Is there an online resource anyone knows of to identify plants just from their leaves and shape ? |
Plant IDs please - worrisit ?
adm wrote: A few more plant IDs if you'd be so kind.... A pleasure, trully a pleasure, tho not sure I'll get everything ... The first one is two plants growing in a bed. One with coarse leaves, the other with fine leaves and little white flowers. OK - there's more than 2 different plants growing there, but 2 main ones.... http://adm.smugmug.com/gallery/1401195/1/72550441 1. dono 2. aquilegia 3. aquilegia 4. aquilegia (are you blind?) 5. lilac and a really nice one 6. aquilegia 7. aquilegia (phew ...) 8. aquilegia (you're having fun ...) 9. dono 10. Weeds - remove! 11. Tansy?! 12. thistle Eryngo 13. dono 14. sedum HTH |
Plant IDs please - worrisit ?
"adm" wrote in message ... Dear all, A few more plant IDs if you'd be so kind.... Some of these I want to get rid of, others I just want to know what they are. Sorry - I don't know much about plants.... Photos are he The first one is two plants growing in a bed. One with coarse leaves, the other with fine leaves and little white flowers. OK - there's more than 2 different plants growing there, but 2 main ones.... http://adm.smugmug.com/gallery/1401195/1/72550441 Next up is a big tall gangly thing that looks as if it's about to flower. Currently the flower tips are about 5 feet high. http://adm.smugmug.com/gallery/1401195/1/72550446 For your pleasure, a thistly/ferny looking plant growing well in the rockery (growing so well, you can't see any rocks....) http://adm.smugmug.com/gallery/1401195/1/72550453 Next suspect is a horrible looking thing. Kind of hempy looking long fingered leaves and an almost segmented looking main stem. Sickly light green flower heads, but never seems to actually flower. This is quite invasive, but is pulled up easily. http://adm.smugmug.com/gallery/1401195/1/72550462 This one is an almost cactussy looking thing. Thick leaves, almost dusty green in colour. http://adm.smugmug.com/gallery/1401195/1/72550471 Finally, a lovely big purple flowering tree/bush/thing. This looks spectacular in is about 10 feet tall. http://adm.smugmug.com/gallery/1401195/1/72550373 Well - any help gratefully received. I have an RHS plant encyclopedia, but can seem to identify anything from it - all the pictures show flowers, and none of these plants have any (apart from the purple tree/bush)..... Is there an online resource anyone knows of to identify plants just from their leaves and shape ? 441 Coarse veined leaf =Lamium (dead nettle) White flower looks like a forget-me-not (a white one) 446 = Not telling you yet 453=Acanthus 462=Hellebore 471=Sedum Autumn spectabile/Joy 373 =Syringia =Lilac |
Plant IDs please - worrisit ?
Rupert (W.Yorkshire) wrote: 441 Coarse veined leaf =Lamium (dead nettle) White flower looks like a forget-me-not (a white one) 446 = Not telling you yet 453=Acanthus 462=Hellebore 471=Sedum Autumn spectabile/Joy 373 =Syringia =Lilac Where did you get those numbers from!?!? 453 Acanthus off course!! Not sure about the Hellebore though ... and I'm not sure about your number so I don't know what you are referring to :o)) |
Plant IDs please - worrisit ?
"La Puce" wrote in message ups.com... Rupert (W.Yorkshire) wrote: 441 Coarse veined leaf =Lamium (dead nettle) White flower looks like a forget-me-not (a white one) 446 = Not telling you yet 453=Acanthus 462=Hellebore 471=Sedum Autumn spectabile/Joy 373 =Syringia =Lilac Where did you get those numbers from!?!? 453 Acanthus off course!! Not sure about the Hellebore though ... and I'm not sure about your number so I don't know what you are referring to :o)) The numbers are the last 3 digits of the URL--I think. Flowers are Hellebore-perhaps leaves belong to something else but they too look ok to me. It's probably H. foetidus or similar http://adm.smugmug.com/gallery/1401195/1/72550462 Are you going to tell us what the big tall thingy is? :-) http://adm.smugmug.com/gallery/1401195/1/72550446 Hint:-It is not an Aquilegia |
Plant IDs please - worrisit ?
On 31 May 2006 04:06:45 -0700, "La Puce" wrote:
Rupert (W.Yorkshire) wrote: 441 Coarse veined leaf =Lamium (dead nettle) White flower looks like a forget-me-not (a white one) 446 = Not telling you yet 453=Acanthus 462=Hellebore 471=Sedum Autumn spectabile/Joy 373 =Syringia =Lilac Where did you get those numbers from!?!? 453 Acanthus off course!! Not sure about the Hellebore though ... and I'm not sure about your number so I don't know what you are referring to :o)) the last three digits of the photo number links provided by the original poster. -- Paul C |
Plant IDs please - worrisit ?
Paul Corfield wrote: the last three digits of the photo number links provided by the original poster. Ta :o) |
Plant IDs please - worrisit ?
Rupert (W.Yorkshire) wrote:
"La Puce" wrote in message ups.com... Rupert (W.Yorkshire) wrote: 441 Coarse veined leaf =Lamium (dead nettle) White flower looks like a forget-me-not (a white one) 446 = Not telling you yet 453=Acanthus 462=Hellebore 471=Sedum Autumn spectabile/Joy 373 =Syringia =Lilac Where did you get those numbers from!?!? 453 Acanthus off course!! Not sure about the Hellebore though ... and I'm not sure about your number so I don't know what you are referring to :o)) The numbers are the last 3 digits of the URL--I think. Flowers are Hellebore-perhaps leaves belong to something else but they too look ok to me. It's probably H. foetidus or similar http://adm.smugmug.com/gallery/1401195/1/72550462 Are you going to tell us what the big tall thingy is? :-) http://adm.smugmug.com/gallery/1401195/1/72550446 Hint:-It is not an Aquilegia Does it begin with a "V" ? |
Plant IDs please - worrisit ?
Sorry - that was confusing... I left some earlier ID photos (did you guess
the aquilegia ?) with the new photos. I've "weeded out" the offenders now, and posted the descriptions again below. Thanks for all the answers - looks like most of them identified - except for the tall one..... The first one is two plants growing in a bed. One with coarse leaves, the other with fine leaves and little white flowers. OK - there's more than 2 different plants growing there, but 2 main ones.... http://adm.smugmug.com/gallery/1401195/1/72550441 Next up is a big tall gangly thing that looks as if it's about to flower. Currently the flower tips are about 5 feet high. http://adm.smugmug.com/gallery/1401195/1/72550446 For your pleasure, a thistly/ferny looking plant growing well in the rockery (growing so well, you can't see any rocks....) http://adm.smugmug.com/gallery/1401195/1/72550453 Next suspect is a horrible looking thing. Kind of hempy looking long fingered leaves and an almost segmented looking main stem. Sickly light green flower heads, but never seems to actually flower. This is quite invasive, but is pulled up easily. http://adm.smugmug.com/gallery/1401195/1/72550462 This one is an almost cactussy looking thing. Thick leaves, almost dusty green in colour. http://adm.smugmug.com/gallery/1401195/1/72550471 Finally, a lovely big purple flowering tree/bush/thing. This looks spectacular in is about 10 feet tall. http://adm.smugmug.com/gallery/1401195/1/72550373 Well - any help gratefully received. I have an RHS plant encyclopedia, but can seem to identify anything from it - all the pictures show flowers, and none of these plants have any (apart from the purple tree/bush)..... Is there an online resource anyone knows of to identify plants just from their leaves and shape ? "La Puce" wrote in message oups.com... Paul Corfield wrote: the last three digits of the photo number links provided by the original poster. Ta :o) |
Plant IDs please - worrisit ?
"Rupert (W.Yorkshire)" wrote in message ... "La Puce" wrote in message ups.com... Rupert (W.Yorkshire) wrote: 441 Coarse veined leaf =Lamium (dead nettle) White flower looks like a forget-me-not (a white one) 446 = Not telling you yet 453=Acanthus 462=Hellebore 471=Sedum Autumn spectabile/Joy 373 =Syringia =Lilac Where did you get those numbers from!?!? 453 Acanthus off course!! Not sure about the Hellebore though ... and I'm not sure about your number so I don't know what you are referring to :o)) The numbers are the last 3 digits of the URL--I think. Flowers are Hellebore-perhaps leaves belong to something else but they too look ok to me. It's probably H. foetidus or similar http://adm.smugmug.com/gallery/1401195/1/72550462 I actually did not see the flowers at first and did not recognise the leaves but when you said Hellebore I plumped for that. Some of them have very narrow leaves/leaflets. I looked at the photo again and sure enough there are a load of pale Hellebore flowers so "well spotted that man" etc. Are you going to tell us what the big tall thingy is? :-) http://adm.smugmug.com/gallery/1401195/1/72550446 Hint:-It is not an Aquilegia |
Plant IDs please - worrisit ?
"Des Higgins" wrote in message e... "Rupert (W.Yorkshire)" wrote in message ... "La Puce" wrote in message ups.com... Rupert (W.Yorkshire) wrote: 441 Coarse veined leaf =Lamium (dead nettle) White flower looks like a forget-me-not (a white one) 446 = Not telling you yet 453=Acanthus 462=Hellebore 471=Sedum Autumn spectabile/Joy 373 =Syringia =Lilac Where did you get those numbers from!?!? 453 Acanthus off course!! Not sure about the Hellebore though ... and I'm not sure about your number so I don't know what you are referring to :o)) The numbers are the last 3 digits of the URL--I think. Flowers are Hellebore-perhaps leaves belong to something else but they too look ok to me. It's probably H. foetidus or similar http://adm.smugmug.com/gallery/1401195/1/72550462 I actually did not see the flowers at first and did not recognise the leaves but when you said Hellebore I plumped for that. Some of them have very narrow leaves/leaflets. I looked at the photo again and sure enough there are a load of pale Hellebore flowers so "well spotted that man" etc. Thanks. I can confirm after all the replies that it does indeed appear to be Hellebore foetidus - aka Bear's Paw or Stinking Hellebore. I suppose the reason I never thought it flowered was that the flowers were green...... Are you going to tell us what the big tall thingy is? :-) http://adm.smugmug.com/gallery/1401195/1/72550446 Hint:-It is not an Aquilegia Anyone ? |
Plant IDs please - worrisit ?
On Wed, 31 May 2006 12:19:17 +0100, Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\) wrote
(in article ): "La Puce" wrote in message ups.com... Rupert (W.Yorkshire) wrote: 441 Coarse veined leaf =Lamium (dead nettle) White flower looks like a forget-me-not (a white one) 446 = Not telling you yet 453=Acanthus 462=Hellebore 471=Sedum Autumn spectabile/Joy 373 =Syringia =Lilac Where did you get those numbers from!?!? 453 Acanthus off course!! Not sure about the Hellebore though ... and I'm not sure about your number so I don't know what you are referring to :o)) The numbers are the last 3 digits of the URL--I think. Flowers are Hellebore-perhaps leaves belong to something else but they too look ok to me. It's probably H. foetidus or similar http://adm.smugmug.com/gallery/1401195/1/72550462 Yes, I'm sure that's right. Are you going to tell us what the big tall thingy is? :-) http://adm.smugmug.com/gallery/1401195/1/72550446 Hint:-It is not an Aquilegia Thalictrum flavium glauca. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon email address on web site |
Plant IDs please - worrisit ?
adm writes
Thanks. I can confirm after all the replies that it does indeed appear to be Hellebore foetidus - aka Bear's Paw or Stinking Hellebore. I suppose the reason I never thought it flowered was that the flowers were green...... The flowers are tiny and in the centre of the green bracts (the petally things), which stay on when the flowers are over and the seeds form. It's an uncommon british native as well as being grown as an ornamental. -- Kay |
Plant IDs please - worrisit ?
"Rupert (W.Yorkshire)" writes
441 Coarse veined leaf =Lamium (dead nettle) Dead nettle family, but I think it's the red flowered hedge woundwort, Stachys sylvatica, which smells something horrid when you pull it up. White flower looks like a forget-me-not (a white one) It's a bedstraw - if you look closely, it has 4 petals not five, and you can see several of the characteristic whorled leaves - 1in to the L and 0,5 inches down, for example. I don't know what the abundant shoots which fill up most of the photo are. -- Kay |
Plant IDs please - worrisit ?
"Sacha Hubbard" wrote in message al.net... On Wed, 31 May 2006 12:19:17 +0100, Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\) wrote (in article ): "La Puce" wrote in message ups.com... Rupert (W.Yorkshire) wrote: 441 Coarse veined leaf =Lamium (dead nettle) White flower looks like a forget-me-not (a white one) 446 = Not telling you yet 453=Acanthus 462=Hellebore 471=Sedum Autumn spectabile/Joy 373 =Syringia =Lilac Where did you get those numbers from!?!? 453 Acanthus off course!! Not sure about the Hellebore though ... and I'm not sure about your number so I don't know what you are referring to :o)) The numbers are the last 3 digits of the URL--I think. Flowers are Hellebore-perhaps leaves belong to something else but they too look ok to me. It's probably H. foetidus or similar http://adm.smugmug.com/gallery/1401195/1/72550462 Yes, I'm sure that's right. Are you going to tell us what the big tall thingy is? :-) http://adm.smugmug.com/gallery/1401195/1/72550446 Hint:-It is not an Aquilegia Thalictrum flavium glauca. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon email address on web site Spoil sport:-) You deprived La Puce of a micromoment of Glory. |
Plant IDs please - worrisit ?
"K" wrote in message ... "Rupert (W.Yorkshire)" writes 441 Coarse veined leaf =Lamium (dead nettle) Dead nettle family, but I think it's the red flowered hedge woundwort, Stachys sylvatica, which smells something horrid when you pull it up. Dunno the only one I am familiar with is the white one which makes a very handsome plant with an almost impossible tap root. White flower looks like a forget-me-not (a white one) It's a bedstraw - if you look closely, it has 4 petals not five, and you can see several of the characteristic whorled leaves - 1in to the L and 0,5 inches down, for example. Yes got it know. You have good eyesight or is mine getting even worse. I don't know what the abundant shoots which fill up most of the photo are. -- Me neither and he did not ask. I suppose Lysimachia clethroides might fit some. I think I can see Oenothera or perhaps Hesperis matronalis. He certianly has a goodley collection of plants Kay |
Plant IDs please - worrisit ?
On Wed, 31 May 2006 22:35:59 +0100, Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\) wrote
(in article ): "Sacha Hubbard" wrote in message al.net... On Wed, 31 May 2006 12:19:17 +0100, Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\) wrote (in article ): "La Puce" wrote in message ups.com... Rupert (W.Yorkshire) wrote: 441 Coarse veined leaf =Lamium (dead nettle) White flower looks like a forget-me-not (a white one) 446 = Not telling you yet 453=Acanthus 462=Hellebore 471=Sedum Autumn spectabile/Joy 373 =Syringia =Lilac Where did you get those numbers from!?!? 453 Acanthus off course!! Not sure about the Hellebore though ... and I'm not sure about your number so I don't know what you are referring to :o)) The numbers are the last 3 digits of the URL--I think. Flowers are Hellebore-perhaps leaves belong to something else but they too look ok to me. It's probably H. foetidus or similar http://adm.smugmug.com/gallery/1401195/1/72550462 Yes, I'm sure that's right. Are you going to tell us what the big tall thingy is? :-) http://adm.smugmug.com/gallery/1401195/1/72550446 Hint:-It is not an Aquilegia Thalictrum flavium glauca. Spoil sport:-) You deprived La Puce of a micromoment of Glory. Tsk. I'm using a new newsreader and am, I hope, becoming slowly accustomed to it. In the meantime, certain nuances may be lost to me......and clearly that was one of them! We have that plant in the garden and its cousin "Hewitt's Double'. I'm tempted to start a book on how many people tell us each year that it's a type of Gypsophila. However, to go back to the queries of the original poster, I would suggest that he doesn't nuke his garden just yet. Looks like the previous owner had some plant knowledge and some unusual plants in there. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon email address on web site |
Plant IDs please - worrisit ?
"Rupert (W.Yorkshire)" wrote in message ... "K" wrote in message ... "Rupert (W.Yorkshire)" writes 441 Coarse veined leaf =Lamium (dead nettle) Dead nettle family, but I think it's the red flowered hedge woundwort, Stachys sylvatica, which smells something horrid when you pull it up. Dunno the only one I am familiar with is the white one which makes a very handsome plant with an almost impossible tap root. White flower looks like a forget-me-not (a white one) It's a bedstraw - if you look closely, it has 4 petals not five, and you can see several of the characteristic whorled leaves - 1in to the L and 0,5 inches down, for example. Yes got it know. You have good eyesight or is mine getting even worse. I don't know what the abundant shoots which fill up most of the photo are. -- Me neither and he did not ask. I suppose Lysimachia clethroides might fit some. I think I can see Oenothera or perhaps Hesperis matronalis. He certianly has a goodley collection of plants Kay Thanks everyone ! I most certainly do have a goodley collection of plants. I have about half an acre of garden that I am slowly taming. I bought the house last year and everything had been left to run riot for a few years. There is also a field next door, so lots of wild flowers and other plants had started to invade. Everyone that comes here says that there is a very good selection of plants in the garden - something to give colour at almost any time of year. I just have to figure out what they all are and how best to care for them. Anyway - those were the five plants that I knew nothig about yesterday. Now I at least know what they are. There's more to come..... |
Plant IDs please - worrisit ?
"Sacha Hubbard" wrote in message al.net... On Wed, 31 May 2006 22:35:59 +0100, Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\) wrote (in article ): "Sacha Hubbard" wrote in message al.net... On Wed, 31 May 2006 12:19:17 +0100, Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\) wrote (in article ): "La Puce" wrote in message ups.com... Rupert (W.Yorkshire) wrote: 441 Coarse veined leaf =Lamium (dead nettle) White flower looks like a forget-me-not (a white one) 446 = Not telling you yet 453=Acanthus 462=Hellebore 471=Sedum Autumn spectabile/Joy 373 =Syringia =Lilac Where did you get those numbers from!?!? 453 Acanthus off course!! Not sure about the Hellebore though ... and I'm not sure about your number so I don't know what you are referring to :o)) The numbers are the last 3 digits of the URL--I think. Flowers are Hellebore-perhaps leaves belong to something else but they too look ok to me. It's probably H. foetidus or similar http://adm.smugmug.com/gallery/1401195/1/72550462 Yes, I'm sure that's right. Are you going to tell us what the big tall thingy is? :-) http://adm.smugmug.com/gallery/1401195/1/72550446 Hint:-It is not an Aquilegia Thalictrum flavium glauca. Spoil sport:-) You deprived La Puce of a micromoment of Glory. Tsk. I'm using a new newsreader and am, I hope, becoming slowly accustomed to it. In the meantime, certain nuances may be lost to me......and clearly that was one of them! We have that plant in the garden and its cousin "Hewitt's Double'. I'm tempted to start a book on how many people tell us each year that it's a type of Gypsophila. However, to go back to the queries of the original poster, I would suggest that he doesn't nuke his garden just yet. Looks like the previous owner had some plant knowledge and some unusual plants in there. Nukes are on standby for now. I'm going to go in with a smaller tactical assault unit and do some political destabilisation instead ! |
Plant IDs please - worrisit ?
"adm" wrote in message ... "Sacha Hubbard" wrote in message al.net... On Wed, 31 May 2006 22:35:59 +0100, Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\) wrote (in article ): "Sacha Hubbard" wrote in message al.net... On Wed, 31 May 2006 12:19:17 +0100, Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\) wrote (in article ): "La Puce" wrote in message ups.com... Rupert (W.Yorkshire) wrote: 441 Coarse veined leaf =Lamium (dead nettle) White flower looks like a forget-me-not (a white one) 446 = Not telling you yet 453=Acanthus 462=Hellebore 471=Sedum Autumn spectabile/Joy 373 =Syringia =Lilac Where did you get those numbers from!?!? 453 Acanthus off course!! Not sure about the Hellebore though ... and I'm not sure about your number so I don't know what you are referring to :o)) The numbers are the last 3 digits of the URL--I think. Flowers are Hellebore-perhaps leaves belong to something else but they too look ok to me. It's probably H. foetidus or similar http://adm.smugmug.com/gallery/1401195/1/72550462 Yes, I'm sure that's right. Are you going to tell us what the big tall thingy is? :-) http://adm.smugmug.com/gallery/1401195/1/72550446 Hint:-It is not an Aquilegia Thalictrum flavium glauca. Spoil sport:-) You deprived La Puce of a micromoment of Glory. Tsk. I'm using a new newsreader and am, I hope, becoming slowly accustomed to it. In the meantime, certain nuances may be lost to me......and clearly that was one of them! We have that plant in the garden and its cousin "Hewitt's Double'. I'm tempted to start a book on how many people tell us each year that it's a type of Gypsophila. However, to go back to the queries of the original poster, I would suggest that he doesn't nuke his garden just yet. Looks like the previous owner had some plant knowledge and some unusual plants in there. Nukes are on standby for now. I'm going to go in with a smaller tactical assault unit and do some political destabilisation instead ! I have had 4 gardens in the past 10 years and have inherited plants in each case and at first it is all exciting as you wonder what treasures you have inherited. Sadly, most of the treasures turn out to be invasive weeds that have taken the opportunity to run riot between owners. It ends up being very very hard to renovate existing beds. The easiest way long term and by far the most satisfying to look at is to start brand new beds from scratch. You may not have room for it or the best parts of teh garden may already be taken by existing beds so it may not be possible, in which case this advice is useless. If there are nice existing plants, try to dig them out without any weeds or take cuttings and start them off again in teh new beds. Then you can nuke old beds one by one (organise regime change; install puppeet administrations etc). Old beds that have grass, brambles, hungarian bladder weed, broken bottles, rubble etc. can be very very hard work and horribly disappointing as they seem to look tatty no matter what you do. When you start a bed from scratch, you get automatic bare soil and razor sharp edges (having done a lot of digging and clearing which admittedly is hard work; in our case my wife does it; I kid you not; she likes digging). It is easier to plan what goes where and to control weeds, if neccessary by roundup at the start and by digging out roots etc. If you do have old treasures, then on the plus side, it is fun seeing if they are nice or not and seeing what comes up. You can be lucky. Des |
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On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 10:41:03 +0100, "adm" wrote:
I most certainly do have a goodley collection of plants. I have about half an acre of garden that I am slowly taming. I bought the house last year and everything had been left to run riot for a few years. There is also a field next door, so lots of wild flowers and other plants had started to invade. Everyone that comes here says that there is a very good selection of plants in the garden - something to give colour at almost any time of year. I just have to figure out what they all are and how best to care for them. Anyway - those were the five plants that I knew nothig about yesterday. Now I at least know what they are. There's more to come..... Why not have an open day and ask urg members to pop round for a look, cup of tea and piece of cake? ;-) You'd get endless advice and instant plant recognition. -- Paul C |
Plant IDs please - worrisit ?
Rupert (W.Yorkshire) wrote: Spoil sport:-) You deprived La Puce of a micromoment of Glory. What what?! Glory? Moment? Have I missed something?! |
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Janet Baraclough wrote: By a mile, as usual. Aargghhh, you just adore me really. |
Plant IDs please - worrisit ?
"adm" wrote in message ... "Rupert (W.Yorkshire)" wrote in message ... "K" wrote in message ... "Rupert (W.Yorkshire)" writes 441 Coarse veined leaf =Lamium (dead nettle) Dead nettle family, but I think it's the red flowered hedge woundwort, Stachys sylvatica, which smells something horrid when you pull it up. Dunno the only one I am familiar with is the white one which makes a very handsome plant with an almost impossible tap root. White flower looks like a forget-me-not (a white one) It's a bedstraw - if you look closely, it has 4 petals not five, and you can see several of the characteristic whorled leaves - 1in to the L and 0,5 inches down, for example. Yes got it know. You have good eyesight or is mine getting even worse. I don't know what the abundant shoots which fill up most of the photo are. -- Me neither and he did not ask. I suppose Lysimachia clethroides might fit some. I think I can see Oenothera or perhaps Hesperis matronalis. He certianly has a goodley collection of plants Kay Thanks everyone ! I most certainly do have a goodley collection of plants. I have about half an acre of garden that I am slowly taming. I bought the house last year and everything had been left to run riot for a few years. There is also a field next door, so lots of wild flowers and other plants had started to invade. Everyone that comes here says that there is a very good selection of plants in the garden - something to give colour at almost any time of year. I just have to figure out what they all are and how best to care for them. Anyway - those were the five plants that I knew nothig about yesterday. Now I at least know what they are. There's more to come..... I just noticed that in your original post you also asked about reference sources and mentioned the RHS encyclopaedia. I am not certain which one you mean as there are several. The "A-Z encyclopaedia of garden plants" and the gardeners' "Encyclopaedia of Plants & Flowers". The later classifies things by season, height and colour. If you do not possess this one then it is worth the money. |
Plant IDs please - worrisit ?
On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 19:27:22 +0100, Janet Baraclough wrote
(in article ): The message from Paul Corfield contains these words: Why not have an open day and ask urg members to pop round for a look, cup of tea and piece of cake? ;-) You'd get endless advice and instant plant recognition. But we do the endless advice and instant recognition thing anyway, even without the tea and cake :-) I recall that I once promised to fax you a cream tea............ ;-) -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon email address on web site |
Plant IDs please - worrisit ?
On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 23:27:09 +0100, Janet Baraclough wrote
(in article ): The message et from Sacha Hubbard contains these words: On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 19:27:22 +0100, Janet Baraclough wrote (in article ): The message from Paul Corfield contains these words: Why not have an open day and ask urg members to pop round for a look, cup of tea and piece of cake? ;-) You'd get endless advice and instant plant recognition. But we do the endless advice and instant recognition thing anyway, even without the tea and cake :-) I recall that I once promised to fax you a cream tea............ ;-) It still hasn't arrived, partly because I haven't got a fax. Ah. That would explain the smell of sour cream emanating from mine........... -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon email address on web site |
Plant IDs please - worrisit ?
"Rupert (W.Yorkshire)" wrote in message ... "adm" wrote in message ... "Rupert (W.Yorkshire)" wrote in message ... "K" wrote in message ... "Rupert (W.Yorkshire)" writes 441 Coarse veined leaf =Lamium (dead nettle) Dead nettle family, but I think it's the red flowered hedge woundwort, Stachys sylvatica, which smells something horrid when you pull it up. Dunno the only one I am familiar with is the white one which makes a very handsome plant with an almost impossible tap root. White flower looks like a forget-me-not (a white one) It's a bedstraw - if you look closely, it has 4 petals not five, and you can see several of the characteristic whorled leaves - 1in to the L and 0,5 inches down, for example. Yes got it know. You have good eyesight or is mine getting even worse. I don't know what the abundant shoots which fill up most of the photo are. -- Me neither and he did not ask. I suppose Lysimachia clethroides might fit some. I think I can see Oenothera or perhaps Hesperis matronalis. He certianly has a goodley collection of plants Kay Thanks everyone ! I most certainly do have a goodley collection of plants. I have about half an acre of garden that I am slowly taming. I bought the house last year and everything had been left to run riot for a few years. There is also a field next door, so lots of wild flowers and other plants had started to invade. Everyone that comes here says that there is a very good selection of plants in the garden - something to give colour at almost any time of year. I just have to figure out what they all are and how best to care for them. Anyway - those were the five plants that I knew nothig about yesterday. Now I at least know what they are. There's more to come..... I just noticed that in your original post you also asked about reference sources and mentioned the RHS encyclopaedia. I am not certain which one you mean as there are several. The "A-Z encyclopaedia of garden plants" and the gardeners' "Encyclopaedia of Plants & Flowers". The later classifies things by season, height and colour. If you do not possess this one then it is worth the money. That's the one I have - and it's a lovely book. The problem is, it shows pictures of the flowers of all the plants, and mine aren't all flowering yet.... |
Plant IDs please - worrisit ?
On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 00:33:15 +0100, Janet Baraclough wrote
(in article ): The message et from Sacha Hubbard contains these words: On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 23:27:09 +0100, Janet Baraclough wrote (in article ): The message et from Sacha Hubbard contains these words: On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 19:27:22 +0100, Janet Baraclough wrote (in article ): The message from Paul Corfield contains these words: Why not have an open day and ask urg members to pop round for a look, cup of tea and piece of cake? ;-) You'd get endless advice and instant plant recognition. But we do the endless advice and instant recognition thing anyway, even without the tea and cake :-) I recall that I once promised to fax you a cream tea............ ;-) It still hasn't arrived, partly because I haven't got a fax. Ah. That would explain the smell of sour cream emanating from mine........... Can I have a refund, then? :~} Janet. Only if you claim it in person. In all seriousness and very much of the moment, we had some people return a golden hop today, claiming something was wrong with it. All that was wrong was that they hadn't planted it in the two weeks they'd had it and hadn't watered it, either. I showed it to Ray who confirmed this and offered them a replacement but no, they chose a Solanum instead. Off they went, very happy bunnies. The kicker is that one of our staff used to work at a garden centre in this area and she says that they played this game so often there that they were, eventually, banned from returning plants of any sort, at all. They buy a plant, let it stand around untended for a week or two, bring it back, choose another that's a little more expensive and expect not to have to pay the difference, do the same thing a couple of weeks later and so on and so on. IOW, they never actually plant anything! They admire it for a while, until they kill it and then ask for a more expensive replacement of something entirely different, trading up all the time! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon email address on web site |
Plant IDs please - worrisit ?
On Sat, 3 Jun 2006 22:29:14 +0100, Sacha Hubbard
wrote: Only if you claim it in person. In all seriousness and very much of the moment, we had some people return a golden hop today, claiming something was wrong with it. All that was wrong was that they hadn't planted it in the two weeks they'd had it and hadn't watered it, either. I showed it to Ray who confirmed this and offered them a replacement but no, they chose a Solanum instead. Off they went, very happy bunnies. The kicker is that one of our staff used to work at a garden centre in this area and she says that they played this game so often there that they were, eventually, banned from returning plants of any sort, at all. They buy a plant, let it stand around untended for a week or two, bring it back, choose another that's a little more expensive and expect not to have to pay the difference, do the same thing a couple of weeks later and so on and so on. IOW, they never actually plant anything! They admire it for a while, until they kill it and then ask for a more expensive replacement of something entirely different, trading up all the time! I'm obviously a very naive person but I find such antics bordering on the incredible. I wouldn't have the sheer front to do that. I find the whole concept of taking plants back after I'd bought them and planted them rather amazing - with perhaps the exception of buying a very particular type of plant and not receiving the particular variety requested. -- Paul C |
Plant IDs please - worrisit ?
On Sun, 4 Jun 2006 10:29:26 +0100, Janet Baraclough
wrote: The message from Paul Corfield contains these words: I'm obviously a very naive person but I find such antics bordering on the incredible. I see you have never stood in the returns queue at Marks and Spencer clothes department :-) Yes I have but I can understand someone finding an item of clothing does not fit or something like that and wishing to return it / swap it / get a refund. For some reason I find the same behaviour with a plant to be bizarre - particularly the serial plant borrowers that Sacha quoted. -- Paul C |
Plant IDs please - worrisit ?
On Sat, 3 Jun 2006 23:04:43 +0100, Paul Corfield wrote
(in article ): On Sat, 3 Jun 2006 22:29:14 +0100, Sacha Hubbard wrote: Only if you claim it in person. In all seriousness and very much of the moment, we had some people return a golden hop today, claiming something was wrong with it. All that was wrong was that they hadn't planted it in the two weeks they'd had it and hadn't watered it, either. I showed it to Ray who confirmed this and offered them a replacement but no, they chose a Solanum instead. Off they went, very happy bunnies. The kicker is that one of our staff used to work at a garden centre in this area and she says that they played this game so often there that they were, eventually, banned from returning plants of any sort, at all. They buy a plant, let it stand around untended for a week or two, bring it back, choose another that's a little more expensive and expect not to have to pay the difference, do the same thing a couple of weeks later and so on and so on. IOW, they never actually plant anything! They admire it for a while, until they kill it and then ask for a more expensive replacement of something entirely different, trading up all the time! I'm obviously a very naive person but I find such antics bordering on the incredible. I wouldn't have the sheer front to do that. I find the whole concept of taking plants back after I'd bought them and planted them rather amazing - with perhaps the exception of buying a very particular type of plant and not receiving the particular variety requested. At least now we're forewarned! Interestingly enough, David Poole came to see us this morning and tells us that the national body representing nurseries and gcs says that 6 months is the outer limit for guarantee. They figure that a plant has had plenty of time to be taken home, planted and live or die by then! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon email address on web site |
Plant IDs please - worrisit ?
On Sun, 4 Jun 2006 10:29:26 +0100, Janet Baraclough wrote
(in article ): The message from Paul Corfield contains these words: I'm obviously a very naive person but I find such antics bordering on the incredible. I see you have never stood in the returns queue at Marks and Spencer clothes department :-) Janet Very true. About a thousand years ago I was a model at what was then Debenham & Freebody in London. This was the couture department and even back then, in the 60s, some of the evening dresses cost well into the hundreds of pounds. It was not uncommon for a woman to 'buy' a dress one day and bring it back the next, saying her husband didn't like it. But the dress would have talc marks or worse - sweat marks - and would smell of perfume and we'd know she'd worn it to a party the night before! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon email address on web site |
Plant IDs please - worrisit ?
"Sacha Hubbard" wrote in message Very true. About a thousand years ago I was a model at what was then Debenham & Freebody in London. This was the couture department and even back then, in the 60s, some of the evening dresses cost well into the hundreds of pounds. It was not uncommon for a woman to 'buy' a dress one day and bring it back the next, saying her husband didn't like it. But the dress would have talc marks or worse - sweat marks - and would smell of perfume and we'd know she'd worn it to a party the night before! I used to work for a mail order company - suits would be returned as unworn but had confetti in the pockets! I am afraid to say that even underwear was returned as unworn but clearly wasn't !! :-(( some people have no shame! On Topic again, what if a plant doesn't flower (for example) after planted. I would leave it til next year and see if it "recovers". a 6 month exchange would therefore not cover the plant |
Plant IDs please - worrisit ?
Space writes
On Topic again, what if a plant doesn't flower (for example) after planted. I would leave it til next year and see if it "recovers". a 6 month exchange would therefore not cover the plant But you don't get non-functional non-flowering plants - as long as it is alive, it will eventually flower given correct treatment. By the time you've left it into a second season, what you've done to it probably has more influence on its flowering than what the nursery did a year previously. So it's not really fair on the nursery to take it back that long afterwards, unless you are claiming it was sick when you bought it and hasn't recovered since. -- Kay |
Plant IDs please - worrisit ?
On Mon, 5 Jun 2006 21:30:56 +0100, K wrote
(in article ): Space writes On Topic again, what if a plant doesn't flower (for example) after planted. I would leave it til next year and see if it "recovers". a 6 month exchange would therefore not cover the plant But you don't get non-functional non-flowering plants - as long as it is alive, it will eventually flower given correct treatment. By the time you've left it into a second season, what you've done to it probably has more influence on its flowering than what the nursery did a year previously. So it's not really fair on the nursery to take it back that long afterwards, unless you are claiming it was sick when you bought it and hasn't recovered since. No decent nursery or gc is going to sell plants that are sick and 'not fit for purpose'. It's nonsense for them to do so and would ruin their reputation in months. Kay is correct to say that it's not fair on the nursery to claim that there is something wrong with a plant which may well have been in the hands of the customer longer than it has been in the hands of the nursery! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon email address on web site |
Plant IDs please - worrisit ?
In message et, Sacha
Hubbard writes Interestingly enough, David Poole came to see us this morning and tells us that the national body representing nurseries and gcs says that 6 months is the outer limit for guarantee. They figure that a plant has had plenty of time to be taken home, planted and live or die by then! What about bulbs? Last autumn I bought some bulbs labelled "Scilla non-scriptus" with a label clearly showing blue flowers. I was expecting wild-type bluebells, deep blue, scented and with the top of the inflorescence arching over. What came up this spring was Spanish bluebells in a nasty shade of pink. By the time they flowered they'd already offset into lots of tiny bulbils that'll take years to eradicate. I wished I'd kept the packet so that I could storm back to the GC and complain - of course they just retail this stuff and don't know what's in the packet, but their supplier deserves to be eaten alive by slugs. -- Sue ]:(:) |
Plant IDs please - worrisit ?
MadCow writes
In message et, Sacha Hubbard writes Interestingly enough, David Poole came to see us this morning and tells us that the national body representing nurseries and gcs says that 6 months is the outer limit for guarantee. They figure that a plant has had plenty of time to be taken home, planted and live or die by then! What about bulbs? Last autumn I bought some bulbs labelled "Scilla non-scriptus" with a label clearly showing blue flowers. I was expecting wild-type bluebells, deep blue, scented and with the top of the inflorescence arching over. What came up this spring was Spanish bluebells in a nasty shade of pink. By the time they flowered they'd already offset into lots of tiny bulbils that'll take years to eradicate. I wished I'd kept the packet so that I could storm back to the GC and complain - of course they just retail this stuff and don't know what's in the packet, but their supplier deserves to be eaten alive by slugs. Agree with you absolutely there, the GC should refund. Equally with my Lychnis coronaria alba seeds - there's no way any mistreatment of mine could have turned the white flowers carmine! -- Kay |
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