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can't get on the BBC Gardeners Worlds Monty Don Website but BBC please Oh
please bring back the PROPER theme music!!! --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.467 / Virus Database: 266 - Release Date: 01/04/03 -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- |
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The new "remixed" music is pretty naff, I do agree.
The rest of the programme was pretty good and it will be very interesting to see how the garden develops over time. "Trevor Appleton" wrote in message ... can't get on the BBC Gardeners Worlds Monty Don Website but BBC please Oh please bring back the PROPER theme music!!! --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.467 / Virus Database: 266 - Release Date: 01/04/03 -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- |
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Previously on Buffy the Vampire Slayer ^W^W^W^W uk.rec.gardening, I
heard Sacha say... can't get on the BBC Gardeners Worlds Monty Don Website but BBC please Oh please bring back the PROPER theme music!!! How funny! We both hated the 'new' and tinkered with music. You weren't the only ones. -- Fenny Thought for the Day... If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried. |
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"Trevor Appleton" wrote in message ... can't get on the BBC Gardeners Worlds Monty Don Website but BBC please Oh please bring back the PROPER theme music!!! I don't care about the music.......I was just Soooooooo glad that the program was a huge improvement on the old version :~)) Monty Don looks like a real gardener, he talks like a real gardener and does real garden things - none of that 'instant landscaping in one weekend" Loved it when he said "this hedge will be wonderful in5 years time" :~)) Looks as if I can start to watch is again .......... Jenny |
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In article , JennyC
writes Monty Don looks like a real gardener, he talks like a real gardener and does real garden things - none of that 'instant landscaping in one weekend" Loved it when he said "this hedge will be wonderful in5 years time" :~)) And when he said "this part will be the vegetable garden" -- Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs. |
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I did manage to get to the site and have expressd my distaste at their
messing about with our classic original. I just hope it has some good effect. What next? The Archers? Trevor Appleton wrote: can't get on the BBC Gardeners Worlds Monty Don Website but BBC please Oh please bring back the PROPER theme music!!! --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.467 / Virus Database: 266 - Release Date: 01/04/03 -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- |
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The new series of G.W. got off to a good start and I think Monty Don
will be better than A.T. More practical, less gimmicky. What a wonderful canvas they have in that garden! I can tolerate the music as long as the content is PROPER GARDENING. Well done the Beeb. Keep it up. Pam in Bristol pamdotmooreatvirgindotnet |
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I don't care about the music.......I was just Soooooooo glad that the program was a huge improvement on the old version :~)) Monty Don looks like a real gardener, he talks like a real gardener and does real garden things - none of that 'instant landscaping in one weekend" Loved it when he said "this hedge will be wonderful in5 years time" :~)) Looks as if I can start to watch is again .......... If, like me, you missed the programme on Friday night it is being repeated on Sundays 11-11.30am BBC 2. Natalie |
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"Pam Moore" wrote in message ... The new series of G.W. got off to a good start and I think Monty Don will be better than A.T. More practical, less gimmicky. I dont think the problem with Gardeners World was ever Alan Titchmarsh. And I dont think Monty Don is going to improve things unless of course he removes the hangers on , and reserve judgement for the moment. I didnt see anything last night to make me think things had improved. The real problem with gardeners World is still there - too many fingers in the soil. Too many band wagon gardeners, not naming names but "the team". Gardening is not a team game. One has ones garden and it is ones personal and total domain. It aint a "team effort". And I can understand why AT gave up the programme when having to work with that Team and in HIS Garden! I note the garden is for the first time not that of the presenter!?? Too many cooks and all that! |
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wrote on 12/4/03 9:16 pm: "Pam Moore" wrote in message ... The new series of G.W. got off to a good start and I think Monty Don will be better than A.T. More practical, less gimmicky. I dont think the problem with Gardeners World was ever Alan Titchmarsh. And I dont think Monty Don is going to improve things unless of course he removes the hangers on , and reserve judgement for the moment. I didnt see anything last night to make me think things had improved. The real problem with gardeners World is still there - too many fingers in the soil. Too many band wagon gardeners, not naming names but "the team". Gardening is not a team game. One has ones garden and it is ones personal and total domain. It aint a "team effort". And I can understand why AT gave up the programme when having to work with that Team and in HIS Garden! I note the garden is for the first time not that of the presenter!?? Too many cooks and all that! Gardening is not a team effort? Well. I hope all those people who run Wisley, Kew, Rosemoor know that. How did Percy Thrower and Geoff Hamilton miss that? Indeed, I must remember to talk sternly to my husband tomorrow....... -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk |
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I note the garden is for the first time not that of the presenter!?? I think I read somewhere - in the Radio Times, perhaps? that MD's garden was considered for the programme but that he decided to protect his family's privacy by not using it. We breathed a huge sigh of relief - MD has been my favourite gardening presenter for a long time - so practical and down to earth. Thank heavens for no gimmicky camera work, a long term attitude to gardening (and no Ivan Hicks!). Gill Hall |
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It just amazes me that people want to write messages expressing approval or
otherwise for a TV programme. I like orange but my partner prefers lemon. I like tea, you may prefer coffee. Red used to be my mum's fave colour, but I prefer blue. I've always preferred Coronation St over Eastenders. I preferred the old signature tune on Gardeners World to that new one. Be honest, just how interesting is any of this to you? Does anyone really care that much? m. |
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It just amazes me that people want to write messages expressing approval or
otherwise for a TV programme. Gardeners World is no mere TV programme. It's an institution of gardening life! Some took our first faltering gardening steps at its knee, if you follow my mixed metaphor. Gill Hall |
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If, like me, you missed the programme on Friday night it is being
repeated on Sundays 11-11.30am BBC 2. Natalie Unless you live in Scotland, where golf replaced the Beechgrove Garden on Thursday, and the Beechgrove was broadcast in the Gardeners' World slot on Friday, and GW is now scheduled for12 noon on Sunday. I know golf (not to mention gardening) is a 'religion' to some people, but others of us are in church at noon on Sunday. (Will have to remember to set the video.) Kristina black-isle.info/orchard |
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"Sacha" wrote in message ... in article , mick at wrote on 12/4/03 9:16 pm: The real problem with gardeners World is still there - too many fingers in the soil. Too many band wagon gardeners, not naming names but "the team". Gardening is not a team game. One has ones garden and it is ones personal and total domain. It aint a "team effort". And I can understand why AT gave up the programme when having to work with that Team and in HIS Garden! I note the garden is for the first time not that of the presenter!?? Too many cooks and all that! Gardening is not a team effort? Well. I hope all those people who run Wisley, Kew, Rosemoor know that. How did Percy Thrower and Geoff Hamilton miss that? Indeed, I must remember to talk sternly to my husband tomorrow....... -- And my grandfather was a Head Gardener for a very large garden ( when such things were not just limited to Kew etc). The difference my love is, there is only one person in charge. Only one Head Gardener. And that remains the case even today. Others are simply labourers. In GW there are too many chiefs. I note ( I think it was in GW) that one of the features was a Garden in Cornwall. They asked the owner how he had succeeded in having such a unique garrden and he said it was becuase in 100 years they had only had three Head Gardeners controlling the garden and so there had been continuity of ideas. Supports my point. GW has too many chiefs with too many different ideas. |
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"Gill Hall" wrote snip We breathed a huge sigh of relief - MD has been my favourite gardening presenter for a long time - so practical and down to earth. Thank heavens for no gimmicky camera work, a long term attitude to gardening (and no Ivan Hicks!). Gill Hall I love Ivan Hicks !! Maybe he could have his own program for us fans :~) Jenny |
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"mandy thomas" wrote It just amazes me that people want to write messages expressing approval or otherwise for a TV programme. Well we are gardeners............ Plus the BBC read this group, so we like to tell them our opinions :~) Jenny |
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At least it sounds like we have a GARDENER back on the show, I will start
watching again to see if it is as good as people say The Devil's Advocate I only set the stage, you pull your own strings Trevor Appleton wrote: : can't get on the BBC Gardeners Worlds Monty Don Website but BBC : please Oh please bring back the PROPER theme music!!! : : : --- : Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. : Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). : Version: 6.0.467 / Virus Database: 266 - Release Date: 01/04/03 : : : : : -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- : http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! : -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- |
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If, like me, you missed the programme on Friday night it is being repeated on Sundays 11-11.30am BBC 2. Well I've just watched the repeat and found it very refreshing :-) I even didn't mind the music too much ;-) I'll definitely be a regular again, remembering to record it if I'm out again! The tip on growing in compost bags was rather good. I think I'll grow the ones at school like that rather than in the old plastic bins. As I haven't got round to putting holes in the bins yet maybe I could use them for collecting rainwater...assuming we will get some rain! Natalie |
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in article , mandy thomas at
wrote on 13/4/03 12:53 am: It just amazes me that people want to write messages expressing approval or otherwise for a TV programme. I like orange but my partner prefers lemon. I like tea, you may prefer coffee. Red used to be my mum's fave colour, but I prefer blue. I've always preferred Coronation St over Eastenders. I preferred the old signature tune on Gardeners World to that new one. Be honest, just how interesting is any of this to you? Does anyone really care that much? Yup. Perhaps you'd care to Google back through the archives to see the remarks some of the TV gardening programmes have received on here. That's the reason for my suggestion. If we fling brickbats it's only fair to hand out bouquets. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk |
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in article , mick at
wrote on 13/4/03 6:49 am: "Sacha" wrote in message ... in article , mick at wrote on 12/4/03 9:16 pm: The real problem with gardeners World is still there - too many fingers in the soil. Too many band wagon gardeners, not naming names but "the team". Gardening is not a team game. One has ones garden and it is ones personal and total domain. It aint a "team effort". And I can understand why AT gave up the programme when having to work with that Team and in HIS Garden! I note the garden is for the first time not that of the presenter!?? Too many cooks and all that! Gardening is not a team effort? Well. I hope all those people who run Wisley, Kew, Rosemoor know that. How did Percy Thrower and Geoff Hamilton miss that? Indeed, I must remember to talk sternly to my husband tomorrow....... -- And my grandfather was a Head Gardener for a very large garden ( when such things were not just limited to Kew etc). The difference my love is, there is only one person in charge. Only one Head Gardener. And that remains the case even today. Others are simply labourers. In GW there are too many chiefs. I note ( I think it was in GW) that one of the features was a Garden in Cornwall. They asked the owner how he had succeeded in having such a unique garrden and he said it was becuase in 100 years they had only had three Head Gardeners controlling the garden and so there had been continuity of ideas. Supports my point. GW has too many chiefs with too many different ideas. But for a gardening programme, it could be argued that is a necessity. There isn't only 'one way' of gardening. But I think the beginning of the new series made it clear that Monty Don is the one 'in charge' if one thinks that so important. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk |
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On Sun, 13 Apr 2003 06:49:33 +0100, "mick"
wibbled: The difference my love is, I'm sure if you try really hard you could get even more patronising. there is only one person in charge. That's not the way we work in our garden. Seems to me that when it comes to gardening, me and my partner are just that, a partnership. -- Barry Smith bazzas at btinternet.com 'It's not easy ... building Xanadu in the backstreets of Weatherfield.' |
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"Bazza" wrote in message news That's not the way we work in our garden. Seems to me that when it comes to gardening, me and my partner are just that, a partnership. Exactly the same he) Ophelia |
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"Sacha" wrote in message ... in article , mick at wrote on 13/4/03 6:49 am: But for a gardening programme, it could be argued that is a necessity. There isn't only 'one way' of gardening. But I think the beginning of the new series made it clear that Monty Don is the one 'in charge' if one thinks that so important. I'll wait and see. Not that I think R de T and CB are real gardeners anyway. All the more reasone why they really shouldnt be there. |
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"Bazza" wrote in message ... On Sun, 13 Apr 2003 06:49:33 +0100, "mick" wibbled: The difference my love is, I'm sure if you try really hard you could get even more patronising. Yah , your right, I shouldnt have said it that way - but tis the way I speak. I appologise for the turn of phrase. |
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"Ophelia" wrote in message ... "Bazza" wrote in message news That's not the way we work in our garden. Seems to me that when it comes to gardening, me and my partner are just that, a partnership. You are missing the point. There is a difference between a "partnership" and the idea of a "team" The former implies an equal sharing between people who have agreed to work together. They all agree on who will be a mamber of the partnership. Its a mutual arrangement. A "team" is put together by some leader and the members are forced to work together at professional level . They have no choice in who is part of the team. |
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"mick" wrote in message ... "Sacha" wrote in message ... in article , mick at wrote on 13/4/03 6:49 am: But for a gardening programme, it could be argued that is a necessity. There isn't only 'one way' of gardening. But I think the beginning of the new series made it clear that Monty Don is the one 'in charge' if one thinks that so important. I'll wait and see. Not that I think R de T and CB are real gardeners anyway. All the more reasone why they really shouldnt be there. Monty Don is excellent - loves what he is doing and knows what he is doing. However, I am bemused by your claim that Chris Beardshaw is not a "real gardener." If Monty Don hadn't taken the job, Chris would have been first-class. He also knows and loves the job. Iris McCanna |
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Previously on Buffy the Vampire Slayer ^W^W^W^W uk.rec.gardening, I
heard Gill Hall say... It just amazes me that people want to write messages expressing approval or otherwise for a TV programme. Gardeners World is no mere TV programme. It's an institution of gardening life! Some took our first faltering gardening steps at its knee, if you follow my mixed metaphor. The trailers for the new series of GW use the old theme music and everyone out in their gardens recognises it. Why then change it to something people don't recognise. One of the reasons for theme music is that when you;re out in the kitchen between progs and the kettle is boiling, you know what you are listening for. -- Fenny All true wisdom is found on T-shirts. |
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"Barry & Iris McCanna" wrote in message ... "mick" wrote in message ... "Sacha" wrote in message ... in article , mick at wrote on 13/4/03 6:49 am: Monty Don is excellent - loves what he is doing and knows what he is doing. However, I am bemused by your claim that Chris Beardshaw is not a "real gardener." If Monty Don hadn't taken the job, Chris would have been first-class. He also knows and loves the job. Well if I a honest, Beardshaw looses points not just on being a "Garden Designer" not a gardener and on his mannerisms ( he flays his arms around too much and it is accentuated on TV) . Monty Don has a pleasant manner and thats as much as one can ask of the dumbed down BBC these days. But I suppose I could also argue that GW should be looking for new blood altogether - and preferably looking within the gardening domain , not at the "luvvies" Monty Don has a degree in some subject or other ( Business from the LSE I think) and took up gardening as a business venture. He certainly didnt start out as a gardener and in that respect I doubt if he knows much more than I do - and thats saying something! As for garden designers - then yes I definately do know as much as they do! |
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I'll wait and see.
Not that I think R de T and CB are real gardeners anyway. All the more reasone why they really shouldnt be there. At least R de T is pleasant to the eye. I can't help wondering though if her selection was more for her looks than her gardening knowledge? -- Drakanthus. (Spam filter: Include the word VB anywhere in the subject line or emails will never reach me.) |
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On Mon, 14 Apr 2003 10:57:16 +0100, "Drakanthus"
wrote: ~ I'll wait and see. ~ Not that I think R de T and CB are real gardeners anyway. All the more ~ reasone why they really shouldnt be there. ~ ~ ~At least R de T is pleasant to the eye. I can't help wondering though if her ~selection was more for her looks than her gardening knowledge? My thoughts entirely. I tend to refer to her as Rachel de useless. On the other hand my Dad thinks she's lovely. But then he's a bloke... I'm not terribly fond of Mr Overacting Beardshaw either, however! :-) The one thing a lot of folk haven't commented on in the "Oh good MD is much better than AT" postings is that the entire old production team has gone and it's been taken back in-house by the BBC. Alan Titchmarsh was not to blame for the format of recent seasons - the director has that responsibility, and so the independent TV company were the ones responsible for the flashy angles, flowers being shown in black and white (er, why?) and the production quality. And in my experience of the BBC gardening message boards, they took not one bit of notice of the complaints and wishes of the viewers. Now filming is back with the people I pay my licence fee to, and they seem to have gone back to Geoff-Hamilton-like basics as the majority of people on the boards seemed to want. Hooray. Pity Alan T had to put up with the flak generated by the terrible production values of the independent company :-( I think he'd have been heaps better in the last two or three seasons if it had been in-house. (Postscript to one of GHs old soapboxes while I remember: he always advocated cocoa shell mulches for acidifying alkaline soils. The RHS has just completed a long-term survey of mulches and found that most of them do leave the soil slightly more acidic in the first season but more alkaline than initially, after 3 or so years!) I'll get off mine now :-) -- jane Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you may still exist but you have ceased to live. Mark Twain Please remove nospam from replies, thanks! |
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In message , mick
writes Monty Don has a degree in some subject or other ( Business from the LSE I think) and took up gardening as a business venture. No, he took up gardening initially as therapy. He mentioned this in one of his Observer articles some years ago. -- dave @ stejonda |
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"Fenny" k wrote The trailers for the new series of GW use the old theme music and everyone out in their gardens recognises it. Why then change it to something people don't recognise. Yes, that's exactly what I thought when the 'new' version struck up. Talk about ironic. Apart from that blip, the first programme was an extremely good start. I do like Monty Don's style of presenting; he always seems so down to earth and enthusiastic, doesn't patronise, doesn't resort to gimmicks, and what's more I love his voice - I could listen to him going on about planting yew hedges all day. :) Well done Beeb. Sue |
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in article , dave @ stejonda at
wrote on 14/4/03 11:35 am: In message , mick writes Monty Don has a degree in some subject or other ( Business from the LSE I think) and took up gardening as a business venture. No, he took up gardening initially as therapy. He mentioned this in one of his Observer articles some years ago. His early career was as a jewellery designer. I still have a pair of his earrings! I *think* that business flopped, though I can't be sure of that. You're right, he wrote quite a few articles about the making of his own garden so obviously his artistic bias went in that direction. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk |
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"kdupar" wrote in message ... Unless you live in Scotland, where golf replaced the Beechgrove Garden on Thursday, and the Beechgrove was broadcast in the Gardeners' World slot on Friday, and GW is now scheduled for12 noon on Sunday. I know golf (not to mention gardening) is a 'religion' to some people, but others of us are in church at noon on Sunday. (Will have to remember to set the video.) Kristina black-isle.info/orchard Yes I was really cheesed off at that - probably means that we won't be able to trial the sweet peas for free cos we didn't have the same first-come-first-served chance. Not to worry, my tried and tested are already well on thier way. |
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"Trevor Appleton" wrote in message
... can't get on the BBC Gardeners Worlds Monty Don Website but BBC please Oh please bring back the PROPER theme music!!! I don't mind the new theme, it allows the whole program to indicate a complete break, and a totally fresh start. Nice that there was no mention of decking in the new show. Also got to admit that Monty Don is one of my favorite gardeners, after the numerous gardening programs he has presented his style has improved greatly. Also his writing is amusing and interesting. Having read numerous of his gaardening books I think I am going to like this series very much. Plus, vegetable gardening and organic !!! how nice to hear those terms on GW again, after so many years. Geoff H was moving steadily in that direction when he sadly left us, and he was introducing all sorts of excellent characters, Bob Flowerdew springs to mind. It's so nice to think that after the AT years, we can now get back to what I enjoy most, veggies. Yes, I know it wasn't all AT's fault, but let's face it, has he really presented a gardening show which wasn't almost all about Decking and quick fix-ups. I think MD would also have demanded creative control as a pre-requisite to taking over the presenters job, he has over many years, been a very keen veggie gardener and has been a staunch advocate of organic methods for several years, so I doubt very much he would let anyone else dictate how he gardens. He made that point quite well I thought, that although they will be organic, he will talk about alternatives, generally and excellent move I thought. Duncan Got to add as well, the very idea of gardens having one Gardener and a bunch of labourers, love it hilarious, how much more insulting could anyone be, I wonder where they got the Head gardeners from if all he had working for him were labourers !!! |
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