Diminishing rose colour query
 

We have a fairly mature Mme. Isaac Pereire rose on an arch in the nursery.
This year we have noticed that its colour and scent are much more subdued
than in all the previous years. Normally, this rose is an eye searingly
gorgeous pink and has a scent that knocks you flying.
Has anyone else experienced this with this rose or, indeed, any other?

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(email address on website)

Diminishing rose colour query
 

On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 18:34:20 +0100, Sacha wrote:

We have a fairly mature Mme. Isaac Pereire rose on an arch in the nursery.
This year we have noticed that its colour and scent are much more subdued
than in all the previous years. Normally, this rose is an eye searingly
gorgeous pink and has a scent that knocks you flying.
Has anyone else experienced this with this rose or, indeed, any other?

We used to have 'New Dawn' in our previous garden; a climber with
lovely very pale pink flowers, but which were getting even paler. My
aunt suggested it needed magnesium, which it duly got and had the
desired effect, which surprised me as my aunt was not known in the
family for her gardening expertise!


--
Chris

E-mail: christopher[dot]hogg[at]virgin[dot]net

Diminishing rose colour query
 

On 14/6/06 19:09, in article ,
"Chris Hogg" wrote:

On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 18:34:20 +0100, Sacha wrote:

We have a fairly mature Mme. Isaac Pereire rose on an arch in the nursery.
This year we have noticed that its colour and scent are much more subdued
than in all the previous years. Normally, this rose is an eye searingly
gorgeous pink and has a scent that knocks you flying.
Has anyone else experienced this with this rose or, indeed, any other?

We used to have 'New Dawn' in our previous garden; a climber with
lovely very pale pink flowers, but which were getting even paler. My
aunt suggested it needed magnesium, which it duly got and had the
desired effect, which surprised me as my aunt was not known in the
family for her gardening expertise!

Funnily enough, we talked about that today so Mmme Isaac will be getting the
Rennies soon! Many thanks for confirming that. As I said, this is quite a
mature rose and it's planted in a place where it gets a lot of sun but also
a lot of wind. AND it's competing with a Holboellia and is planted in a
hoggin pathway, so it's not getting much tlc! However, I will also just add
that someone who works for us had a cutting from that rose a year ago and
hers has come up very pale, too!
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(email address on website)

Diminishing rose colour query
 

Sacha wrote:
We have a fairly mature Mme. Isaac Pereire rose on an arch in the nursery.
This year we have noticed that its colour and scent are much more subdued
than in all the previous years. Normally, this rose is an eye searingly
gorgeous pink and has a scent that knocks you flying.
Has anyone else experienced this with this rose or, indeed, any other?

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(email address on website)

I have a climbing rose that I swear used to have red flowers but I
moved it and now they're pink :-) I wonder if it's anything to do with
the drought :-p

Diminishing rose colour query
 

On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 19:20:11 +0100, Sacha wrote:

Funnily enough, we talked about that today so Mmme Isaac will be getting the
Rennies soon!

LOL! Rennies are mostly calcium carbonate, 'lime' to urglers. Mine got
Epsom Salts: same part of the anatomy but rather different effect!


--
Chris

E-mail: christopher[dot]hogg[at]virgin[dot]net

Diminishing rose colour query
 

wrote:
Sacha wrote:
We have a fairly mature Mme. Isaac Pereire rose on an arch in the nursery.
This year we have noticed that its colour and scent are much more subdued
than in all the previous years. Normally, this rose is an eye searingly
gorgeous pink and has a scent that knocks you flying.
Has anyone else experienced this with this rose or, indeed, any other?

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(email address on website)

I have a climbing rose that I swear used to have red flowers but I
moved it and now they're pink :-) I wonder if it's anything to do with
the drought :-p

I have a Bridge of Sighs climber which is growing up a dead tree trunk
in the front garden and yesterday I found a lilac/pink bloom on it and
all the rest are a strong apricot colour which is what they are
supposed to be. I can only guess it's something to do with the colour
of the roses that were crossed together to form the new rose (can't
think of term). I'm sure someone will put me right - please -
otherwise it will bug me all night :-)


Gail

Diminishing rose colour query
 

tom&barbara writes

wrote:
Sacha wrote:
We have a fairly mature Mme. Isaac Pereire rose on an arch in the nursery.
This year we have noticed that its colour and scent are much more subdued
than in all the previous years. Normally, this rose is an eye searingly
gorgeous pink and has a scent that knocks you flying.
Has anyone else experienced this with this rose or, indeed, any other?

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(email address on website)

I have a climbing rose that I swear used to have red flowers but I
moved it and now they're pink :-) I wonder if it's anything to do with
the drought :-p

I have a Bridge of Sighs climber which is growing up a dead tree trunk
in the front garden and yesterday I found a lilac/pink bloom on it and
all the rest are a strong apricot colour which is what they are
supposed to be. I can only guess it's something to do with the colour
of the roses that were crossed together to form the new rose (can't
think of term). I'm sure someone will put me right - please -
otherwise it will bug me all night :-)

Was it grafted? You might have a sucker from the rootstock and that
would have the flowers of the rootstock - usually single pink wild rose
type.
--
Kay

Diminishing rose colour query
 

On 15/6/06 15:25, in article , "Chris S"
wrote:

snip

Sacha,
What is the best time to take cuttings from climbing roses? I have a friend
who has elderly specimens which have a beautiful scent. I tried taking
cuttings last autumn, and the autumn before - they seem to do ok potted
p - having dipped the cut end in rooting powder. I tried with stems - 8 -
10 inches long buried up to 5" of their length - they seem to come into new
growth the following spring only to fail and drop all the new growth,
followed by a blackening of the stems- should I try cuttings earlier in the
summer? I'm in sunny (today!) Aberdeen.

Ray suggested trying this: he suggests taking pencil length and width type
cuttings of semi-ripe wood in September and putting them into a slit trench
with sharp sand in the bottom. The trench should be in shade. BUT he
says, too that sometimes older plants don't 'give' cuttings very well.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(email address on website)

Diminishing rose colour query
 

On 15/6/06 16:34, in article
,
" wrote:


Sacha wrote:
We have a fairly mature Mme. Isaac Pereire rose on an arch in the nursery.
This year we have noticed that its colour and scent are much more subdued
than in all the previous years. Normally, this rose is an eye searingly
gorgeous pink and has a scent that knocks you flying.
Has anyone else experienced this with this rose or, indeed, any other?

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(email address on website)

I have a climbing rose that I swear used to have red flowers but I
moved it and now they're pink :-) I wonder if it's anything to do with
the drought :-p

Could be that and could be different soil, perhaps? I think most gardeners
have experienced the old "I moved it three feet and it flourished (or died)"
syndrome.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(email address on website)

Diminishing rose colour query
 

On 15/6/06 18:48, in article ,
"Chris Hogg" wrote:

On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 19:20:11 +0100, Sacha wrote:

Funnily enough, we talked about that today so Mmme Isaac will be getting the
Rennies soon!

LOL! Rennies are mostly calcium carbonate, 'lime' to urglers. Mine got
Epsom Salts: same part of the anatomy but rather different effect!

I know. I was being facetious - fatal tendency. ;-)
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(email address on website)

Diminishing rose colour query
 

"Sacha" wrote in message
...
On 15/6/06 15:25, in article , "Chris S"
wrote:

snip

Sacha,
What is the best time to take cuttings from climbing roses? I have a
friend
who has elderly specimens which have a beautiful scent. I tried taking
cuttings last autumn, and the autumn before - they seem to do ok potted
p - having dipped the cut end in rooting powder. I tried with stems -
8 -
10 inches long buried up to 5" of their length - they seem to come into
new
growth the following spring only to fail and drop all the new growth,
followed by a blackening of the stems- should I try cuttings earlier in
the
summer? I'm in sunny (today!) Aberdeen.

Ray suggested trying this: he suggests taking pencil length and width type
cuttings of semi-ripe wood in September and putting them into a slit
trench
with sharp sand in the bottom. The trench should be in shade. BUT he
says, too that sometimes older plants don't 'give' cuttings very well.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(email address on website)

I'll give it a bash, thank you both. There's nothing to lose, after all,
just the possibility of new plants if successful :-)
Thanks again
Chris S