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Charlie 14-04-2003 05:22 PM

Cutting Leylandi
 
What will happen if I "trim" my leylandi? They're mature, about 15ft I'd
guess. We'd like them to wall height, about 7ft so that's cutting off a
little more than 50%. Will they die? We really don't want them to do
that - we live next door to a pub! What's the best way of going about it?
Ladder and saw?

Charlie.


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Paul Kelly 14-04-2003 06:44 PM

Cutting Leylandi
 

"Charlie" wrote in message
...
What will happen if I "trim" my leylandi? They're mature, about 15ft I'd
guess. We'd like them to wall height, about 7ft so that's cutting off a
little more than 50%. Will they die? We really don't want them to do
that - we live next door to a pub! What's the best way of going about it?
Ladder and saw?


Ideally hand and knees hands cut them off at ground level!

Otherwise, cut them off 18" below desired height to achieve a flat bushy top
with the trunk hidden - don't worry it will soon make up the 18"!

Best advice on how? Get a tree surgeon in! They will not charge much, you do
not risk life and limb and they take away the dross.

Thereafter, trim to desired height 1/2 per year.

pk



Charlie 14-04-2003 06:44 PM

Cutting Leylandi
 

"Paul Kelly" wrote in message
...
Ideally hand and knees hands cut them off at ground level!


Not an option - as I said before, we're next to a noisy pub!


Best advice on how? Get a tree surgeon in! They will not charge much, you

do
not risk life and limb and they take away the dross.


Any other tips? We were quoted around £1000 last time we asked I believe,
way to much money for something that is doable!

Charlie.



Paul Kelly 14-04-2003 06:56 PM

Cutting Leylandi
 

"Charlie" wrote in message
...

"Paul Kelly" wrote in message
...
Ideally hand and knees hands cut them off at ground level!


Not an option - as I said before, we're next to a noisy pub!


Best advice on how? Get a tree surgeon in! They will not charge much,

you
do
not risk life and limb and they take away the dross.


Any other tips? We were quoted around £1000 last time we asked I believe,
way to much money for something that is doable!


How many do you have? £1000 implies an awful lot of man hours for the
professionals.

A few yrs ago I had 6 45 ft ones taken out and roots ground out for £400

pk



Charlie 14-04-2003 06:56 PM

Cutting Leylandi
 

"Paul Kelly" wrote in message
...

How many do you have? £1000 implies an awful lot of man hours for the
professionals.

A few yrs ago I had 6 45 ft ones taken out and roots ground out for £400


About 15 I'd guess, all closely packed together. £400 is still alot of
money!

Charlie.



Paul Kelly 14-04-2003 07:08 PM

Cutting Leylandi
 

"Charlie" wrote in message
...

"Paul Kelly" wrote in message
...

How many do you have? £1000 implies an awful lot of man hours for the
professionals.

A few yrs ago I had 6 45 ft ones taken out and roots ground out for £400


About 15 I'd guess, all closely packed together. £400 is still alot of
money!



£1000 for topping 15 leylandii sounds outrageous! have you tried other
quotes? The guy I use would be around £200 tops for a job of that size.

pk

ps this is a cautionary tale for those who champion planting leylandii!




Mike 14-04-2003 07:08 PM

Cutting Leylandi
 
In article , Charlie
writes

"Paul Kelly" wrote in message
...

How many do you have? £1000 implies an awful lot of man hours for the
professionals.

A few yrs ago I had 6 45 ft ones taken out and roots ground out for £400


About 15 I'd guess, all closely packed together. £400 is still alot of
money!

Charlie.


Your biggest problem after cutting them down, or trimming them down to
height, is getting rid of the bits and pieces.

We have just 2 as specimen trees which of course need trimming. We did
have a shredder but it wore itself out, so everything goes up the dump
now.

We did have bonfires but the garden is tooooooooooooooo neat and tidy
for that.

'IF' your garden is big enough, ladder and Loppers/saw and then either
shred or bonfire it a week at a time. Bit by bit. Not all at once.

Unless,
,
,
,
,
,
,
,
,
you want to pay a pro to get rid of it/them :-))

Mike
Been there, got the tee shirt :-((

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Charlie 14-04-2003 07:08 PM

Cutting Leylandi
 
We'll have to have a call around I guess! Still would rather do it myself!
(If you can imagine a 17 year old girl up the trees in theatre rigging
gear!)

Charlie.

"Paul Kelly" wrote in message
...

"Charlie" wrote in message
...

"Paul Kelly" wrote in message
...

How many do you have? £1000 implies an awful lot of man hours for the
professionals.

A few yrs ago I had 6 45 ft ones taken out and roots ground out for

£400

About 15 I'd guess, all closely packed together. £400 is still alot of
money!



£1000 for topping 15 leylandii sounds outrageous! have you tried other
quotes? The guy I use would be around £200 tops for a job of that size.

pk

ps this is a cautionary tale for those who champion planting leylandii!






Mike 14-04-2003 07:20 PM

Cutting Leylandi
 
In article , Charlie
writes
We'll have to have a call around I guess! Still would rather do it myself!
(If you can imagine a 17 year old girl up the trees in theatre rigging
gear!)

Charlie.

If Charlie is a 17 year old girl ;-), then I guess a trip next door with
the 'I'm only a helpless female' look will certainly get someone to come
and help you. ;-)

Mike
Which pub is it????????


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Charlie 14-04-2003 07:32 PM

Cutting Leylandi
 
Well that would be telling! It's one in Chelmsford if that helps! I
actually need to go ask for a job there, I say I'm 17, but I actually turned
18 a week ago! Hehe.

Charlie.

"Mike" wrote in message
...
In article , Charlie
writes
We'll have to have a call around I guess! Still would rather do it

myself!
(If you can imagine a 17 year old girl up the trees in theatre rigging
gear!)

Charlie.

If Charlie is a 17 year old girl ;-), then I guess a trip next door with
the 'I'm only a helpless female' look will certainly get someone to come
and help you. ;-)

Mike
Which pub is it????????


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Charlie 14-04-2003 07:32 PM

Cutting Leylandi
 
We already have full bonfire, so we were going to continually load it into
the back of the estate car and take it to the dump...

OR, rent an industrial size shredder, save some to mulch with possible and
take the rest to the dump or hire a skip!

Charlie.

"Mike" wrote in message
...
In article , Charlie
writes

"Paul Kelly" wrote in message
...

How many do you have? £1000 implies an awful lot of man hours for the
professionals.

A few yrs ago I had 6 45 ft ones taken out and roots ground out for

£400

About 15 I'd guess, all closely packed together. £400 is still alot of
money!

Charlie.


Your biggest problem after cutting them down, or trimming them down to
height, is getting rid of the bits and pieces.

We have just 2 as specimen trees which of course need trimming. We did
have a shredder but it wore itself out, so everything goes up the dump
now.

We did have bonfires but the garden is tooooooooooooooo neat and tidy
for that.

'IF' your garden is big enough, ladder and Loppers/saw and then either
shred or bonfire it a week at a time. Bit by bit. Not all at once.

Unless,
,
,
,
,
,
,
,
,
you want to pay a pro to get rid of it/them :-))

Mike
Been there, got the tee shirt :-((

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David 14-04-2003 09:08 PM

Cutting Leylandi
 
In article , Charlie
writes
What will happen if I "trim" my leylandi? They're mature, about 15ft I'd
guess. We'd like them to wall height, about 7ft so that's cutting off a
little more than 50%. Will they die? We really don't want them to do
that - we live next door to a pub! What's the best way of going about it?
Ladder and saw?

Charlie.

A few years back I did almost exactly the same to my neighbours
Leylandii, I tried using a bow saw but couldn't get it going, ended up
using a panel saw, the trees carried on growing as if nothing had
happened and were trimmed regularly afterwards. A bit of grunting and
groaning coupled with a mornings hard work and the job was done.
--
David

David 14-04-2003 10:20 PM

Cutting Leylandi
 
In article , Paul Kelly
writes


£1000 for topping 15 leylandii sounds outrageous! have you tried other
quotes? The guy I use would be around £200 tops for a job of that size.

pk

ps this is a cautionary tale for those who champion planting leylandii!

Good point Paul, in fact it may be better not to plant any trees at all
--
David

Paul Kelly 14-04-2003 11:44 PM

Cutting Leylandi
 

"David" wrote in message
...
In article , Paul Kelly
writes


£1000 for topping 15 leylandii sounds outrageous! have you tried other
quotes? The guy I use would be around £200 tops for a job of that size.

pk

ps this is a cautionary tale for those who champion planting leylandii!

Good point Paul, in fact it may be better not to plant any trees at all



Nowt wrong with appropriate trees for the spot available!

pk



David 15-04-2003 12:08 AM

Cutting Leylandi
 
In article , Paul Kelly
writes

"David" wrote in message
.. .
In article , Paul Kelly
writes


£1000 for topping 15 leylandii sounds outrageous! have you tried other
quotes? The guy I use would be around £200 tops for a job of that size.

pk

ps this is a cautionary tale for those who champion planting leylandii!

Good point Paul, in fact it may be better not to plant any trees at all



Nowt wrong with appropriate trees for the spot available!

Unfortunately it appears to have to be your version of appropriate
though
--
David

Paul Kelly 15-04-2003 12:32 AM

Cutting Leylandi
 

"David" wrote in message
...
In article , Paul Kelly
writes

to plant any trees at all


Nowt wrong with appropriate trees for the spot available!

Unfortunately it appears to have to be your version of appropriate
though



If I were a lone voice on this, I'd defer. But I'm not and this was yet
another instance of inappropriate planting of leylandii that has given the
current owner a real problem.

Leylandii are the bain of many peoples lives and the sooner the proposed law
restricting their use is passed the better.

pk



bnd777 15-04-2003 12:44 AM

Cutting Leylandi
 
Dont know how many trees your talking about but £1000 really does seem a
steep quote get some more
"Charlie" wrote in message
...

"Paul Kelly" wrote in message
...
Ideally hand and knees hands cut them off at ground level!


Not an option - as I said before, we're next to a noisy pub!


Best advice on how? Get a tree surgeon in! They will not charge much,

you
do
not risk life and limb and they take away the dross.


Any other tips? We were quoted around £1000 last time we asked I believe,
way to much money for something that is doable!

Charlie.





Essjay001 15-04-2003 02:08 AM

Cutting Leylandi
 
Paul Kelly scribbled:

Nowt wrong with appropriate trees for the spot available!

Unfortunately it appears to have to be your version of appropriate
though


If I were a lone voice on this, I'd defer. But I'm not and this was
yet another instance of inappropriate planting of leylandii that has
given the current owner a real problem.


I woud have thought that a 15 ft high Leylandii barrier between a house and
a pub was "appropriate". Charlie may find she regrets the decision later.

Given that Charlie is only 18 going on 17 I would tend to ask do the trees
belong to her or is she a student renting. If so the landlord might be a pit
****ed off when he can't rent next year because cutting the trees has
removed the privacy that they were planted for. Just a thought!

Leylandii are the bain of many peoples lives and the sooner the
proposed law restricting their use is passed the better.


The government seem to be draging their heels with that one.

Steve R



Paul Kelly 15-04-2003 09:20 AM

Cutting Leylandi
 

"Essjay001" wrote in message
...
Paul Kelly scribbled:

Nowt wrong with appropriate trees for the spot available!

Unfortunately it appears to have to be your version of appropriate
though


If I were a lone voice on this, I'd defer. But I'm not and this was
yet another instance of inappropriate planting of leylandii that has
given the current owner a real problem.


I woud have thought that a 15 ft high Leylandii barrier between a house

and
a pub was "appropriate". Charlie may find she regrets the decision later.


There are other things which provide far more decorative and less
problematic screening and which do not need access with power trimmers at 15
ft height just to keep them in control.

As I type, I'm looking out at an Azara dentata 15/18feet tall, Evergreen,
medium dense screen at height without dominating either garden, just about
to burst into magnificent and fragrant bloom. A line of those would do a
better job than Leylandii. and get to the 15 ft height in about the same
time. Better still an alternate line of A.serrata and A.dentata would give
and extended flowering season well into summer

pk



hayley 15-04-2003 07:20 PM

Cutting Leylandi
 
I just cut our Leyland hedge, it was about 12 foot, I cut it down to about
ten by standing on a ladder with shears/pruners. We have about 10 trees. It
took about an hour. It helps if you have someone to hold the ladder. (And I
wish I'd worn gloves - they can be scratchy.)
Hayley



Mike 15-04-2003 07:20 PM

Cutting Leylandi
 
In article , hayley hayley.ry
writes
I just cut our Leyland hedge, it was about 12 foot, I cut it down to about
ten by standing on a ladder with shears/pruners. We have about 10 trees. It
took about an hour. It helps if you have someone to hold the ladder. (And I
wish I'd worn gloves - they can be scratchy.)
Hayley


Can you nip down to the Isle of Wight and do ours please? Only one to
do and I will hold the ladder.

Mike


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bnd777 15-04-2003 09:44 PM

Cutting Leylandi
 
If Hayley is so keen on cutting the things theres 56 along my boundary all
12ft high
Not everyone is happy teetering about on ladders with shears or hedge
trimmers especially if they are no longer spring chicken


"Mike" wrote in message
...
In article , hayley hayley.ry
writes
I just cut our Leyland hedge, it was about 12 foot, I cut it down to

about
ten by standing on a ladder with shears/pruners. We have about 10 trees.

It
took about an hour. It helps if you have someone to hold the ladder. (And

I
wish I'd worn gloves - they can be scratchy.)
Hayley


Can you nip down to the Isle of Wight and do ours please? Only one to
do and I will hold the ladder.

Mike


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Mike 15-04-2003 09:56 PM

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In article , bnd777
writes

especially if they are no longer spring chicken

Never was a 'Spring Chicken', and now as an 'Old Crowe' I have been
advised by the Doc not to climb ladders, so if Hayley wants to finish
off painting the side of the house whilst she is here ....... ;-)

Mike

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David 15-04-2003 10:44 PM

Cutting Leylandi
 
In article , Paul Kelly
writes

"David" wrote in message
.. .
In article , Paul Kelly
writes

to plant any trees at all


Nowt wrong with appropriate trees for the spot available!

Unfortunately it appears to have to be your version of appropriate
though



If I were a lone voice on this, I'd defer. But I'm not and this was yet
another instance of inappropriate planting of leylandii that has given the
current owner a real problem.

Yes of course there's Barry as well

Leylandii are the bain of many peoples lives and the sooner the proposed law
restricting their use is passed the better.

Actually the law won't just apply to Leylandii, even hedgeline refers to
a number of cases that are not Leylandii, that the trouble with you
extremists you twist things around.
--
David

Paul Kelly 16-04-2003 12:20 AM

Cutting Leylandi
 

"David" wrote in message
...
In article , Paul Kelly
writes
Actually the law won't just apply to Leylandii, even hedgeline refers to

a number of cases that are not Leylandii, that the trouble with you
extremists you twist things around.


I note the absence of a smiley, so have no qualms at telling you to sod off

pk



Charlie 16-04-2003 05:44 PM

Cutting Leylandi
 

I woud have thought that a 15 ft high Leylandii barrier between a house

and
a pub was "appropriate". Charlie may find she regrets the decision later.



Well, I live with my Dad and he owns the house. We've owned the house for
16 years and these were planted about 6 months before we moved in. You
don't need a 16ft barrier between two properties, even if one is a pub - a
7ft one is fine! Around 25% of our garden is blocked by shade by these
trees, including our greenhouse and our fruit bushed (which still seem to do
remarkable well, even if they are 15 year old black current and
loganberries!). Trust me, we WILL NOT regret cutting these awful trees
down! They're currently also pushing over our boundary fence with the pub,
almost allowing our dogs to escape.

The sooner they bring laws in governing these terrible trees, the better!

Charlie.


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Paul Kelly 16-04-2003 06:08 PM

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"Charlie" wrote in message
...

The sooner they bring laws in governing these terrible trees, the better!



And there speaks a Leylandii owner!

pk



Essjay001 16-04-2003 06:32 PM

Cutting Leylandi
 
Charlie scribbled:

Well, I live with my Dad and he owns the house. We've owned the
house for 16 years and these were planted about 6 months before we
moved in. You don't need a 16ft barrier between two properties, even
if one is a pub - a 7ft one is fine! Around 25% of our garden is
blocked by shade by these trees, including our greenhouse and our
fruit bushed (which still seem to do remarkable well, even if they
are 15 year old black current and loganberries!). Trust me, we WILL
NOT regret cutting these awful trees down! They're currently also
pushing over our boundary fence with the pub, almost allowing our
dogs to escape.

The sooner they bring laws in governing these terrible trees, the
better!

Charlie.


Thats a more complete story,.
Can't understand why you waited so long.



Charlie 16-04-2003 07:44 PM

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"Essjay001" wrote in message
...
Thats a more complete story,.
Can't understand why you waited so long.


They've never bothered us till now! We've only over the last two eyars or
so been more active in our garden and it's finally got to the point where
damage is being done. Before they were fine, they just stopped the
occasional bottle whizzing over. The pubs been taken over by a nice family
(who I hope to start working for) who are still noisy, but the don't seem to
attract the same sort of semi-violent-during-the-world-cup-season crowd!

Charlie.


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bnd777 16-04-2003 08:56 PM

Cutting Leylandi
 
Congratulations Charlie for recognising the difficulties these trees create
........you simply will not know the place when they are gone everything will
be so glad of the light and the freedom of the root encroachment
Pile in the compost though after cos Leylandi double strip all nutrients
from the soil
"Charlie" wrote in message
...
"Essjay001" wrote in message
...
Thats a more complete story,.
Can't understand why you waited so long.


They've never bothered us till now! We've only over the last two eyars or
so been more active in our garden and it's finally got to the point where
damage is being done. Before they were fine, they just stopped the
occasional bottle whizzing over. The pubs been taken over by a nice

family
(who I hope to start working for) who are still noisy, but the don't seem

to
attract the same sort of semi-violent-during-the-world-cup-season crowd!

Charlie.


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Charlie 17-04-2003 06:56 AM

Cutting Leylandi
 
Oh no, we don't want them gone completely! We *couldn't* do that, as then
we would have no screen at all for a few years. They'll be fine at a height
of 7ft or so. The area they shade then will be minimal, the same area as a
6ft wall does. We don't really try to plant anything there as that's the
area the dogs seem to enjoy for various things! =D

Charlie.

"bnd777" wrote in message
...
Congratulations Charlie for recognising the difficulties these trees

create
.......you simply will not know the place when they are gone everything

will
be so glad of the light and the freedom of the root encroachment
Pile in the compost though after cos Leylandi double strip all nutrients
from the soil
"Charlie" wrote in message
...
"Essjay001" wrote in message
...
Thats a more complete story,.
Can't understand why you waited so long.


They've never bothered us till now! We've only over the last two eyars

or
so been more active in our garden and it's finally got to the point

where
damage is being done. Before they were fine, they just stopped the
occasional bottle whizzing over. The pubs been taken over by a nice

family
(who I hope to start working for) who are still noisy, but the don't

seem
to
attract the same sort of semi-violent-during-the-world-cup-season crowd!

Charlie.


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Warwick 20-04-2003 12:44 AM

Cutting Leylandi
 
In article ,
AM says...
We already have full bonfire, so we were going to continually load it into
the back of the estate car and take it to the dump...

OR, rent an industrial size shredder, save some to mulch with possible and
take the rest to the dump or hire a skip!


Be a *little* careful when loading up the car. Don't cram it roof high.
I sold off a Toyota a few years back that I'd carted Leylandii to the
tip in and had to point out the holes in the ceiling fabric to the
buyer. The fabric is very easy to snag and damage.

Warwick



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