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Sacha[_1_] 29-08-2006 11:57 AM

Tree recommendation
 
To those who don't know it, may I suggest that anyone looking for a small
tree looks at Clerodendron trichotomum fargesii. It's in flower now, which
is a virtue but on top of that, it has the most lovely scent and the flowers
are followed by china blue berries from which it is easily propagated. It
grows fairly quickly and the only drawback I can see to it is that it looks
stone dead until, suddenly, it doesn't! It's hardy but apparently will grow
to a lesser height in cold areas. I was watering the area of the nursery in
which ours grows and the scent hit me full on, even at 7.30am. It makes a
lovely umbrella shape and all of this makes me wonder why one doesn't seen
it grown more often.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/


Chris S 30-08-2006 11:06 AM

Tree recommendation
 

"Sacha" wrote in message
...
To those who don't know it, may I suggest that anyone looking for a small
tree looks at Clerodendron trichotomum fargesii. It's in flower now,
which
is a virtue but on top of that, it has the most lovely scent and the
flowers
are followed by china blue berries from which it is easily propagated.
It
grows fairly quickly and the only drawback I can see to it is that it
looks
stone dead until, suddenly, it doesn't! It's hardy but apparently will
grow
to a lesser height in cold areas. I was watering the area of the nursery
in
which ours grows and the scent hit me full on, even at 7.30am. It makes a
lovely umbrella shape and all of this makes me wonder why one doesn't seen
it grown more often.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/


It looks very nice in googled photos - would it survive in sub tropical
Aiberdeen, do you think, Sacha??

Chris S



Sacha[_1_] 30-08-2006 03:08 PM

Tree recommendation
 
On 30/8/06 11:06, in article , "Chris S"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
...
To those who don't know it, may I suggest that anyone looking for a small
tree looks at Clerodendron trichotomum fargesii. It's in flower now,
which
is a virtue but on top of that, it has the most lovely scent and the
flowers
are followed by china blue berries from which it is easily propagated.
It
grows fairly quickly and the only drawback I can see to it is that it
looks
stone dead until, suddenly, it doesn't! It's hardy but apparently will
grow
to a lesser height in cold areas. I was watering the area of the nursery
in
which ours grows and the scent hit me full on, even at 7.30am. It makes a
lovely umbrella shape and all of this makes me wonder why one doesn't seen
it grown more often.




It looks very nice in googled photos - would it survive in sub tropical
Aiberdeen, do you think, Sacha??


You can but try and yes, it's a stunner, IMO. If you remind me and if Ray
thinks it viable, I'll send you some seeds to give it a go. Email me your
snailmail address if you would like some.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/


echinosum 30-08-2006 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sacha
To those who don't know it, may I suggest that anyone looking for a small
tree looks at Clerodendron trichotomum fargesii. It's in flower now, which
is a virtue but on top of that, it has the most lovely scent and the flowers
are followed by china blue berries from which it is easily propagated. It
grows fairly quickly and the only drawback I can see to it is that it looks
stone dead until, suddenly, it doesn't! It's hardy but apparently will grow
to a lesser height in cold areas. I was watering the area of the nursery in
which ours grows and the scent hit me full on, even at 7.30am. It makes a
lovely umbrella shape and all of this makes me wonder why one doesn't seen
it grown more often.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/

According to RHS plantfinder, it doesn't exist, and offered me Clerodendrum instead, which isn't the same thing at all. I suspect such confusion explains why it is little grown here. But I have located a couple of nurseries (Abbotsbury in Dorset, and Bluebell at Ashby-de-la-Z - the latter seem to have their -ons and -ums confused too) who are happy to sell us a plant unrecognised by the authorities, and indeed show us pictures of it. Looks very nice. There are other cultivars with different coloured flowers.

According to a hardiness charts I located on a US website, which shows it growable in most of New England, it ought to grow most of here too. I also found a French seed dealer whose site, in its English language version, says it is very "rustic" (the French for hardiness is rusticité). But their instructions for the seeds have the kind of words (4 months cold stratification) which I rarely associate with "easily propagated".

Chris S 30-08-2006 06:34 PM

Tree recommendation
 

"Sacha" wrote in message
...
On 30/8/06 11:06, in article , "Chris S"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
...
To those who don't know it, may I suggest that anyone looking for a
small
tree looks at Clerodendron trichotomum fargesii. It's in flower now,
which
is a virtue but on top of that, it has the most lovely scent and the
flowers
are followed by china blue berries from which it is easily propagated.
It
grows fairly quickly and the only drawback I can see to it is that it
looks
stone dead until, suddenly, it doesn't! It's hardy but apparently will
grow
to a lesser height in cold areas. I was watering the area of the
nursery
in
which ours grows and the scent hit me full on, even at 7.30am. It makes
a
lovely umbrella shape and all of this makes me wonder why one doesn't
seen
it grown more often.




It looks very nice in googled photos - would it survive in sub tropical
Aiberdeen, do you think, Sacha??


You can but try and yes, it's a stunner, IMO. If you remind me and if Ray
thinks it viable, I'll send you some seeds to give it a go. Email me your
snailmail address if you would like some.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/

Hi Sacha,
I've replied via your nursery e-mail - thank you for the offer :-)

Much appreciated

Chris S



EagleEyes 30-08-2006 09:18 PM

Tree recommendation
 
I saw this tree a few years ago and at the time I decided not to get
it, I never thought about it anymore till yesterday when I saw this
post. I went to 3 nurseries and could not find it and they do not have
any idea of what it is (I took a picture with me)... So if anymone can
give me some clues where to get the plant or the seeds I would much
appreciate it.

The tree is just gorgeous.

PA


Sacha[_1_] 30-08-2006 11:39 PM

Tree recommendation
 
On 30/8/06 17:14, in article ,
"echinosum" wrote:

Sacha Wrote:
To those who don't know it, may I suggest that anyone looking for a
small
tree looks at Clerodendron trichotomum fargesii. It's in flower now,
which
is a virtue but on top of that, it has the most lovely scent and the
flowers
are followed by china blue berries from which it is easily propagated.
It
grows fairly quickly and the only drawback I can see to it is that it
looks
stone dead until, suddenly, it doesn't! It's hardy but apparently will
grow
to a lesser height in cold areas. I was watering the area of the
nursery in
which ours grows and the scent hit me full on, even at 7.30am. It
makes a
lovely umbrella shape and all of this makes me wonder why one doesn't
seen
it grown more often.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/

According to RHS plantfinder, it doesn't exist, and offered me
Clerodendrum instead, which isn't the same thing at all. I suspect
such confusion explains why it is little grown here. But I have
located a couple of nurseries (Abbotsbury in Dorset, and Bluebell at
Ashby-de-la-Z - the latter seem to have their -ons and -ums confused
too) who are happy to sell us a plant unrecognised by the authorities,
and indeed show us pictures of it. Looks very nice. There are other
cultivars with different coloured flowers.


If you Google it, you'll find it under both spellings! Same goes for C.
ugandense, an altogether different looking plant and which we also have but
which is small, with blue flowers and conservatory only in this country!
I'd be very interested to hear of the experiences/knowledge of other with
these plants.

According to a hardiness charts I located on a US website, which shows
it growable in most of New England, it ought to grow most of here too.
I also found a French seed dealer whose site, in its English language
version, says it is very "rustic" (the French for hardiness is
rusticité). But their instructions for the seeds have the kind of
words (4 months cold stratification) which I rarely associate with
"easily propagated".

It's most certainly worth a try.

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/


Sacha[_1_] 30-08-2006 11:40 PM

Tree recommendation
 
On 30/8/06 18:34, in article , "Chris S"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
...
On 30/8/06 11:06, in article
, "Chris S"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
...
To those who don't know it, may I suggest that anyone looking for a
small
tree looks at Clerodendron trichotomum fargesii. It's in flower now,
which
is a virtue but on top of that, it has the most lovely scent and the
flowers
are followed by china blue berries from which it is easily propagated.
It
grows fairly quickly and the only drawback I can see to it is that it
looks
stone dead until, suddenly, it doesn't! It's hardy but apparently will
grow
to a lesser height in cold areas. I was watering the area of the
nursery
in
which ours grows and the scent hit me full on, even at 7.30am. It makes
a
lovely umbrella shape and all of this makes me wonder why one doesn't
seen
it grown more often.




It looks very nice in googled photos - would it survive in sub tropical
Aiberdeen, do you think, Sacha??


You can but try and yes, it's a stunner, IMO. If you remind me and if Ray
thinks it viable, I'll send you some seeds to give it a go. Email me your
snailmail address if you would like some.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/

Hi Sacha,
I've replied via your nursery e-mail - thank you for the offer :-)

Much appreciated


I've received it and it's noted, ;-)
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/


Sacha[_1_] 30-08-2006 11:41 PM

Tree recommendation
 
On 30/8/06 21:18, in article
, "EagleEyes"
wrote:

I saw this tree a few years ago and at the time I decided not to get
it, I never thought about it anymore till yesterday when I saw this
post. I went to 3 nurseries and could not find it and they do not have
any idea of what it is (I took a picture with me)... So if anymone can
give me some clues where to get the plant or the seeds I would much
appreciate it.

The tree is just gorgeous.


Do you live somewhere that I can send you some seeds (assuming they set
etc.) If so, I'll happily do so but if you're in e.g. Australia or USA,
it's a non-starter.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/



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