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What To Do With Dirty Weeds
What do you do with what I call dirty weeds. You know the type that if they
go on the compost heap, they just wait to multiply and spread elsewhere when the compost goes back on the garden. I have usually put a small bag of such weeds in with the weekly rubbish collection but probably won't be able to do that soon with a change in rubbish collections. I also read that buried weeds don't break down when buried in landfill sites. I believe there are compost bins that turn out a liquid fertilizer. Would one of these work for problem weeds? |
What To Do With Dirty Weeds
In article , Pinot Grigio
writes What do you do with what I call dirty weeds. You know the type that if they go on the compost heap, they just wait to multiply and spread elsewhere when the compost goes back on the garden. I have usually put a small bag of such weeds in with the weekly rubbish collection but probably won't be able to do that soon with a change in rubbish collections. I also read that buried weeds don't break down when buried in landfill sites. I believe there are compost bins that turn out a liquid fertilizer. Would one of these work for problem weeds? Ours go into the bottom of Safeway bags with the tops tied up and into the bottom of the Black Sacks for collection with the 'Household' rubbish on a Monday morning. We have no 'Dirty Weeds' as I speak at the moment :-)) Well bless my soul, today is Monday :-)))))))) Mike and Joan -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Forthcoming reunions. Royal Navy Social Weekend Sussex May 2nd - 5th. H.M.S.Collingwood Association Chatham May 30th - June 2nd British Pacific Fleet Hayling Island Sept 5th - 8th Castle Class Corvettes Assn. Isle of Wight. Oct 3rd - 6th. Plus many more |
What To Do With Dirty Weeds
Pinot Grigio wrote:
What do you do with what I call dirty weeds. You know the type that if they go on the compost heap, they just wait to multiply and spread elsewhere when the compost goes back on the garden. I have usually put a small bag of such weeds in with the weekly rubbish collection but probably won't be able to do that soon with a change in rubbish collections. I also read that buried weeds don't break down when buried in landfill sites. I lay odds they do, unless the site is anaerobic in which case they'll still be dead but preserved for future generations to ponder. I believe there are compost bins that turn out a liquid fertilizer. Would one of these work for problem weeds? Don't know. If possible I leave bindweed roots on the patio/path until the sun bakes them dry (usually by the end of the day; I don't do serious weeding in the rain) and then compost them as usual. If I can't do that, or it's something with seeds, then the weeds are stored in a lidded bin/in the garage until I remember I'll be passing the tip, at which point I add them to the 'green waste' compacter. In this county green waste is either roughly composted, then spread on fields farmed using glyphosate (they don't have to worry about problem weeds) or processed using anaerobic digestion. regards sarah -- "Great is truth, but still greater, from a practical point of view, is silence about truth." Aldous Huxley |
What To Do With Dirty Weeds
Previously on Buffy the Vampire Slayer ^W^W^W^W uk.rec.gardening, I
heard swroot say... If I can't do that, or it's something with seeds, then the weeds are stored in a lidded bin/in the garage until I remember I'll be passing the tip, at which point I add them to the 'green waste' compacter. In this county green waste is either roughly composted, then spread on fields farmed using glyphosate (they don't have to worry about problem weeds) or processed using anaerobic digestion. In Northamptonshire, we have wheelie bins for garden waste & compost. However, they recently sent us a note to say: "Following the foot and mouth epidemic, legal changes have been made to the Animal By-products Order. This restricts the types of waste that can be composted in the open air. As a result, vegetable peelings, fruit, salad, tea bags, stale bread and eggshells that would normally be put in the brown bin along with garden waste and cardboard can no longer be included." I don;t understand how that list has anything to do with animal by- products. We are told that we are allowed to continue to put them on our own compost heaps, but if we throw them away, they go in the black bin with all the non recyclable stuff. -- Fenny If anyone ever tries to tell you nothing rhymes with orange, don't believe them. It doesn't. |
What To Do With Dirty Weeds
In article ,
swroot wrote: Pinot Grigio wrote: What do you do with what I call dirty weeds. You know the type that if they go on the compost heap, they just wait to multiply and spread elsewhere when the compost goes back on the garden. I have usually put a small bag of such weeds in with the weekly rubbish collection but probably won't be able to do that soon with a change in rubbish collections. I also read that buried weeds don't break down when buried in landfill sites. I lay odds they do, unless the site is anaerobic in which case they'll still be dead but preserved for future generations to ponder. Agreed. I believe there are compost bins that turn out a liquid fertilizer. Would one of these work for problem weeds? Don't know. If possible I leave bindweed roots on the patio/path until the sun bakes them dry (usually by the end of the day; I don't do serious weeding in the rain) and then compost them as usual. I just heave 'em on. Pretty well the only things that I avoid are nettles that have been allowed to ripen their seed - and I don't let them get that far! Very, very few weeds will survive in a compost heap, though a fair number will survive at the edges, and many of the tougher ripe seeds will still be viable after composting. I compost lots of ground elder and both kinds of bindweed, and they all just vanish. If I can't do that, or it's something with seeds, then the weeds are stored in a lidded bin/in the garage until I remember I'll be passing the tip, at which point I add them to the 'green waste' compacter. In this county green waste is either roughly composted, then spread on fields farmed using glyphosate (they don't have to worry about problem weeds) or processed using anaerobic digestion. You can do that yourself, very easily, though the smell isn't attar of roses :-) Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
What To Do With Dirty Weeds
"Pinot Grigio" wrote in message ... What do you do with what I call dirty weeds. You know the type that if they go on the compost heap, they just wait to multiply and spread elsewhere when the compost goes back on the garden. I have usually put a small bag of such weeds in with the weekly rubbish collection but probably won't be able to do that soon with a change in rubbish collections. I also read that buried weeds don't break down when buried in landfill sites. I believe there are compost bins that turn out a liquid fertilizer. Would one of these work for problem weeds? I used to put them all in a carrier bag and then put on the heap when they've had long enough to die. (Obviously weed seeds have to be avoided!) In present circumstances I normally just throw them all in their own heap, then move them to the compost heap when they've had long enough to die. |
What To Do With Dirty Weeds
swroot wrote:
Pinot Grigio wrote: What do you do with what I call dirty weeds. You know the type that if they go on the compost heap, they just wait to multiply and spread elsewhere when the compost goes back on the garden. I have usually put a small bag of such weeds in with the weekly rubbish collection but probably won't be able to do that soon with a change in rubbish collections. I also read that buried weeds don't break down when buried in landfill sites. Every council 'tip' that I have 'done business with' has a green garden waste skip. If your normal refuse collection won't take it - and ours won't, there is nothing to prevent you taking it to the 'tip'. Our 'local' tip is nine miles away and I'm happy to make that journey. 'Did it twice last Thursday. -- ned ....... isn't it a shame that common sense is not all that common. |
What To Do With Dirty Weeds
In article , ned
writes swroot wrote: Pinot Grigio wrote: What do you do with what I call dirty weeds. You know the type that if they go on the compost heap, they just wait to multiply and spread elsewhere when the compost goes back on the garden. I have usually put a small bag of such weeds in with the weekly rubbish collection but probably won't be able to do that soon with a change in rubbish collections. I also read that buried weeds don't break down when buried in landfill sites. Every council 'tip' that I have 'done business with' has a green garden waste skip. If your normal refuse collection won't take it - and ours won't, there is nothing to prevent you taking it to the 'tip'. Our 'local' tip is nine miles away and I'm happy to make that journey. 'Did it twice last Thursday. -- The tip on the Isle of Wight is nothing less than superb. A couple of years ago the marshalling area was rebuilt. Reverse your car to any one of about 8 or 9 skips with notices on them. 'Metal', 'Paper', 'General Waste', 'Wood' etc etc. Carry on pass these skips, which incidentally are below you so you drop the stuff in as opposed to lifting it up over, and you come to an area for green waste where they have a massive shredder!! They use a JCB with a bucket to load the stuff and it chucks the shredded stuff up into an open barn to a heap 20 - 25ft high!! Steams well!! And opposite this are other skips for hard core. Been using this latter facility a lot as no one wanted the hard core around my area. I was even offered some this afternoon by a neighbour ;-{. Anyone visiting the Island this year, come and visit our re cycling area!!!!! Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Forthcoming reunions. Royal Navy Social Weekend Sussex May 2nd - 5th. H.M.S.Collingwood Association Chatham May 30th - June 2nd British Pacific Fleet Hayling Island Sept 5th - 8th Castle Class Corvettes Assn. Isle of Wight. Oct 3rd - 6th. Plus many more |
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Mike wrote:
The tip on the Isle of Wight is nothing less than superb. A couple of years ago the marshalling area was rebuilt. Reverse your car to any one of about 8 or 9 skips with notices on them. 'Metal', 'Paper', 'General Waste', 'Wood' etc etc. Carry on pass these skips, which incidentally are below you so you drop the stuff in as opposed to lifting it up over, and you come to an area for green waste where they have a massive shredder!! They use a JCB with a bucket to load the stuff and it chucks the shredded stuff up into an open barn to a heap 20 - 25ft high!! Steams well!! And opposite this are other skips for hard core. Been using this latter facility a lot as no one wanted the hard core around my area. I was even offered some this afternoon by a neighbour ;-{. Anyone visiting the Island this year, come and visit our re cycling area!!!!! ROFL Don't tell T'boo. She wouldn't be able to resist another away-day. -- ned ....... isn't it a shame that common sense is not all that common. |
What To Do With Dirty Weeds
"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message news:b7evs9$ You can do that yourself, very easily, though the smell isn't attar of roses :-) Could you send me a wee drop for my garden. Godzilla at the bottom of my garden hasn't complained for 4 days:) O |
What To Do With Dirty Weeds
Fenny k wrote:
[-] In Northamptonshire, we have wheelie bins for garden waste & compost. However, they recently sent us a note to say: "Following the foot and mouth epidemic, legal changes have been made to the Animal By-products Order. This restricts the types of waste that can be composted in the open air. As a result, vegetable peelings, fruit, salad, tea bags, stale bread and eggshells that would normally be put in the brown bin along with garden waste and cardboard can no longer be included." I don;t understand how that list has anything to do with animal by- products. We are told that we are allowed to continue to put them on our own compost heaps, but if we throw them away, they go in the black bin with all the non recyclable stuff. The Order is quite specific. Anything that *might* have been in contact with meat or meat products must not be left anywhere livestock (which includes all wild animals such as rats and birds) can contact it. All kitchen waste is classed as material that could have been in contact with meat. I think they aren't prepared to try to stop us composting it (although I lay odds they thought about it). regards sarah -- "Great is truth, but still greater, from a practical point of view, is silence about truth." Aldous Huxley |
What To Do With Dirty Weeds
In article , "Ophelia" writes: | | "Nick Maclaren" wrote in message news:b7evs9$ | | You can do that yourself, very easily, though the smell isn't attar | of roses :-) | | Could you send me a wee drop for my garden. Godzilla at the bottom of my | garden hasn't complained for 4 days:) Take a bucket, fill it with weeds, cover them with water, and leave for a month. No problem! Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
What To Do With Dirty Weeds
"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message ... In article , "Ophelia" writes: | | "Nick Maclaren" wrote in message news:b7evs9$ | | You can do that yourself, very easily, though the smell isn't attar | of roses :-) | | Could you send me a wee drop for my garden. Godzilla at the bottom of my | garden hasn't complained for 4 days:) Take a bucket, fill it with weeds, cover them with water, and leave for a month. No problem! grin.. thank you Nick.. I shall tell her who to thank :)) O |
What To Do With Dirty Weeds
"Pinot Grigio" wrote in
: What do you do with what I call dirty weeds. You know the type that if they go on the compost heap, they just wait to multiply and spread elsewhere when the compost goes back on the garden. I usually hang them up till they are thoroughly dried out, then compost, or bung on the bonfire if I am having one. Nick's solution of drowning them also works if you have more to do. Tub Trugs are good for that. Victoria Clare |
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Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article , swroot wrote: Pinot Grigio wrote: What do you do with what I call dirty weeds. You know the type that if they go on the compost heap, they just wait to multiply and spread elsewhere when the compost goes back on the garden. I have usually put a small bag of such weeds in with the weekly rubbish collection but probably won't be able to do that soon with a change in rubbish collections. I also read that buried weeds don't break down when buried in landfill sites. I lay odds they do, unless the site is anaerobic in which case they'll still be dead but preserved for future generations to ponder. Agreed. I rather like the thought of archaelogists millennia hence pondering the ritual nature of our landfill sites. I believe there are compost bins that turn out a liquid fertilizer. Would one of these work for problem weeds? Don't know. If possible I leave bindweed roots on the patio/path until the sun bakes them dry (usually by the end of the day; I don't do serious weeding in the rain) and then compost them as usual. I just heave 'em on. Pretty well the only things that I avoid are nettles that have been allowed to ripen their seed - and I don't let them get that far! Very, very few weeds will survive in a compost heap, though a fair number will survive at the edges, and many of the tougher ripe seeds will still be viable after composting. I compost lots of ground elder and both kinds of bindweed, and they all just vanish. I don't yet trust my composting skills :-) Aren't you supposed to eat the Ground Elder? If I can't do that, or it's something with seeds, then the weeds are stored in a lidded bin/in the garage until I remember I'll be passing the tip, at which point I add them to the 'green waste' compacter. In this county green waste is either roughly composted, then spread on fields farmed using glyphosate (they don't have to worry about problem weeds) or processed using anaerobic digestion. You can do that yourself, very easily, though the smell isn't attar of roses :-) Do tell... I thought it's very difficult to maintain the correct bacterial fauna, conditions, etc? regards sarah -- "Great is truth, but still greater, from a practical point of view, is silence about truth." Aldous Huxley |
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What To Do With Dirty Weeds
Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article , (swroot) writes: | Nick Maclaren wrote: | | Very, very few weeds will survive in a compost heap, though a fair | number will survive at the edges, and many of the tougher ripe seeds | will still be viable after composting. I compost lots of ground elder | and both kinds of bindweed, and they all just vanish. | | I don't yet trust my composting skills :-) | Aren't you supposed to eat the Ground Elder? You can. Have you tried it? If so, what does it taste like (*don't* tell me 'chicken')... | If I can't do that, or it's something with seeds, then the weeds are | stored in a lidded bin/in the garage until I remember I'll be passing | the tip, at which point I add them to the 'green waste' compacter. In | this county green waste is either roughly composted, then spread on | fields farmed using glyphosate (they don't have to worry about problem | weeds) or processed using anaerobic digestion. | | You can do that yourself, very easily, though the smell isn't attar | of roses :-) | | Do tell... I thought it's very difficult to maintain the correct | bacterial fauna, conditions, etc? Don't believe a word of it! It is dead easy. Composting is the most natural thing you do in gardening, and pretty well all ways of doing it are idiot resistant (nothing is foolproof, not even falling off a ladder). Wormeries are the trickiest methods. Speaking of compost, I spent a half hour on Sunday emptying one of my Daleks with a fork, mixing the compostables and adding lime and stuff, then refilling it. And this morning the compost is composting, too hot to touch! Brilliant! The problem with anaerobic digestion is (a) getting it to work fast and (b) getting it not to smell. If you are just interested in using it to kill weeds and start them rotting, then just put the weeds in a large bucket, butt or plastic bag, and keep them wet. Nature will do the rest. Your family or neighbours may work you over when the smell reaches them, but that is not a problem with the effectiveness of the process! Ah. I was expecting complicated instructions regarding pH maintenance and stuff... I can rot weeds in a bucket, no problem :-) regards sarah -- "Great is truth, but still greater, from a practical point of view, is silence about truth." Aldous Huxley |
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swroot wrote: | Aren't you supposed to eat the Ground Elder? You can. Have you tried it? If so, what does it taste like (*don't* tell me 'chicken')... Yes, but only raw. It is vaguely like something between brassica and spinach. It would probably be similar cooked. Ah. I was expecting complicated instructions regarding pH maintenance and stuff... I can rot weeds in a bucket, no problem :-) You don't get that sort of thing from me! After 36 years at the bleeding edge of computing, I know the advantages of low technology .... Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
What To Do With Dirty Weeds
ned wrote:
swroot wrote: Pinot Grigio wrote: What do you do with what I call dirty weeds. You know the type that if they go on the compost heap, they just wait to multiply and spread elsewhere when the compost goes back on the garden. I have usually put a small bag of such weeds in with the weekly rubbish collection but probably won't be able to do that soon with a change in rubbish collections. I also read that buried weeds don't break down when buried in landfill sites. Every council 'tip' that I have 'done business with' has a green garden waste skip. If your normal refuse collection won't take it - and ours won't, there is nothing to prevent you taking it to the 'tip'. Our 'local' tip is nine miles away and I'm happy to make that journey. 'Did it twice last Thursday. Strewth, that's a long way to barrow your garden waste - assuming you have a barrow of course. -- William Tasso |
What To Do With Dirty Weeds
Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article , swroot wrote: | Aren't you supposed to eat the Ground Elder? You can. Have you tried it? If so, what does it taste like (*don't* tell me 'chicken')... Yes, but only raw. It is vaguely like something between brassica and spinach. It would probably be similar cooked. That does sound edible. I must look for some. Ah. I was expecting complicated instructions regarding pH maintenance and stuff... I can rot weeds in a bucket, no problem :-) You don't get that sort of thing from me! After 36 years at the bleeding edge of computing, I know the advantages of low technology .... it works :-) regards sarah -- "Great is truth, but still greater, from a practical point of view, is silence about truth." Aldous Huxley |
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William Tasso wrote:
ned wrote: swroot wrote: Pinot Grigio wrote: What do you do with what I call dirty weeds. You know the type that if they go on the compost heap, they just wait to multiply and spread elsewhere when the compost goes back on the garden. I have usually put a small bag of such weeds in with the weekly rubbish collection but probably won't be able to do that soon with a change in rubbish collections. I also read that buried weeds don't break down when buried in landfill sites. Every council 'tip' that I have 'done business with' has a green garden waste skip. If your normal refuse collection won't take it - and ours won't, there is nothing to prevent you taking it to the 'tip'. Our 'local' tip is nine miles away and I'm happy to make that journey. 'Did it twice last Thursday. Strewth, that's a long way to barrow your garden waste - assuming you have a barrow of course. :-) Ah. Its a big plot that we are still trying to reclaim from the wild. Some we shred. Some we burn. And some, well its just too big and bulky to dispose of ourselves. So the options are, Bung it in someone elses ditch - perish the thought. Hire a skip. Or take it to the tip. Barrow? Yep. Two. 'Did say it was a big plot. ;-) -- ned |
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