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Dahlia imperialis?
We have two entirely different to look at Dahlias, both claiming to be D.
imperialis. 'Ours' grows to something like 10 or 12 feet. In the greenhouse it goes straight up and out through the roof, flowering at the very top with rather dull single flowered blooms. OTOH, we have a wonderful one, also called D. imperialis which David Hill, who used to post here, gave us from his Abacus Nurseries. It grows to about 8' and has wonderful deep pink double blooms in profusion. Anyone any idea whether one is a sport of the other or whether we have got two entirely different plants, one named incorrectly? I'm pretty sure 'our' D. imperialis is named properly because it's easily identified by photographs. The other is just like a normal Dahlia except in its height. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ |
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Dahlia imperialis?
"Sacha" wrote in message ... We have two entirely different to look at Dahlias, both claiming to be D. imperialis. 'Ours' grows to something like 10 or 12 feet. In the greenhouse it goes straight up and out through the roof, flowering at the very top with rather dull single flowered blooms. OTOH, we have a wonderful one, also called D. imperialis which David Hill, who used to post here, gave us from his Abacus Nurseries. It grows to about 8' and has wonderful deep pink double blooms in profusion. Anyone any idea whether one is a sport of the other or whether we have got two entirely different plants, one named incorrectly? I'm pretty sure 'our' D. imperialis is named properly because it's easily identified by photographs. The other is just like a normal Dahlia except in its height. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ I can't shed much light on your query but I know that D.imperialis is grown by the exotic plant brigade who go for height and foliage and not the flowers. This link more or less confirms what I think (scroll to Dahlia) http://www.junglegardens.co.uk/Plant...arget=d19.html |
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Dahlia imperialis?
On 4/10/06 13:19, in article , "Rupert (W.Yorkshire)"
wrote: "Sacha" wrote in message ... We have two entirely different to look at Dahlias, both claiming to be D. imperialis. 'Ours' grows to something like 10 or 12 feet. In the greenhouse it goes straight up and out through the roof, flowering at the very top with rather dull single flowered blooms. OTOH, we have a wonderful one, also called D. imperialis which David Hill, who used to post here, gave us from his Abacus Nurseries. It grows to about 8' and has wonderful deep pink double blooms in profusion. Anyone any idea whether one is a sport of the other or whether we have got two entirely different plants, one named incorrectly? I'm pretty sure 'our' D. imperialis is named properly because it's easily identified by photographs. The other is just like a normal Dahlia except in its height. -- I can't shed much light on your query but I know that D.imperialis is grown by the exotic plant brigade who go for height and foliage and not the flowers. This link more or less confirms what I think (scroll to Dahlia) http://www.junglegardens.co.uk/Plant...&target=d19.ht ml It can flower in the gardens of the warmer areas and ours has here though, strangely enough, not yet this year. However we always emphasise that it's a curiosity not a' serious' flowering plant if that's what people are after. I must say I'm still trying to get my breath back after seeing the price they sell those for! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ |
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Dahlia imperialis?
"Sacha" wrote in message ... On 4/10/06 13:19, in article , "Rupert (W.Yorkshire)" wrote: "Sacha" wrote in message ... We have two entirely different to look at Dahlias, both claiming to be D. imperialis. 'Ours' grows to something like 10 or 12 feet. In the greenhouse it goes straight up and out through the roof, flowering at the very top with rather dull single flowered blooms. OTOH, we have a wonderful one, also called D. imperialis which David Hill, who used to post here, gave us from his Abacus Nurseries. It grows to about 8' and has wonderful deep pink double blooms in profusion. Anyone any idea whether one is a sport of the other or whether we have got two entirely different plants, one named incorrectly? I'm pretty sure 'our' D. imperialis is named properly because it's easily identified by photographs. The other is just like a normal Dahlia except in its height. -- I can't shed much light on your query but I know that D.imperialis is grown by the exotic plant brigade who go for height and foliage and not the flowers. This link more or less confirms what I think (scroll to Dahlia) http://www.junglegardens.co.uk/Plant...&target=d19.ht ml It can flower in the gardens of the warmer areas and ours has here though, strangely enough, not yet this year. However we always emphasise that it's a curiosity not a' serious' flowering plant if that's what people are after. I must say I'm still trying to get my breath back after seeing the price they sell those for! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ I, too have noticed the high prices of fairly ordinary garden plants when they appear on websites that offer the more exotic plants. In all fairness they do tend to be healthy large plants in big pots,as against the £3.50 for a 3cm pot with a sprig in it. Perhaps you should do a price revue of your stock:-) |
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Dahlia imperialis?
On 4/10/06 18:25, in article , "Rupert (W.Yorkshire)"
wrote: "Sacha" wrote in message ... On 4/10/06 13:19, in article , "Rupert (W.Yorkshire)" wrote: snip I can't shed much light on your query but I know that D.imperialis is grown by the exotic plant brigade who go for height and foliage and not the flowers. This link more or less confirms what I think (scroll to Dahlia) http://www.junglegardens.co.uk/Plant...-uk&target=d19. ht ml It can flower in the gardens of the warmer areas and ours has here though, strangely enough, not yet this year. However we always emphasise that it's a curiosity not a' serious' flowering plant if that's what people are after. I must say I'm still trying to get my breath back after seeing the price they sell those for! -- I, too have noticed the high prices of fairly ordinary garden plants when they appear on websites that offer the more exotic plants. In all fairness they do tend to be healthy large plants in big pots,as against the £3.50 for a 3cm pot with a sprig in it. Perhaps you should do a price revue of your stock:-) We charge £4 for one in a 3l pot. It's hardly a big seller and is bought out of curiosity more than anything else. And the nursery's philosophy is that fair's fair so we charge what is reasonable and don't get greedy. We're not on a main road but are in the depths of the countryside so two among the incentives that get people here, as opposed to the expensive garden centres with main roads right outside their gates, are healthy plants at fair prices. Of course, we don't have the overheads they have in terms of mortgages, bank loans and so forth and we all live right on the premises. Our 7cm pots in which we sell e.g. plants for hanging baskets have been 75p for years and they fly out the door. Yesterday, I sold a Dicksonia antarctica between 4 and 5' tall for £70. As a result of this approach, we've had a good year where many nurseries and gcs are complaining of poor sales - one wholesale Dianthus nursery is 30% down on last year - and our customers return again and again, spreading the word to others, too. We never have sales and if plants don't come up to scratch, they're chucked out. It's a very simple approach but it works and it's ethical which is important to everyone here. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ |
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"Sacha" wrote Our 7cm pots in which we sell e.g. plants for hanging baskets have been 75p for years and they fly out the door. Yesterday, I sold a Dicksonia antarctica between 4 and 5' tall for £70. As a result of this approach, we've had a good year where many nurseries and gcs are complaining of poor sales - one wholesale Dianthus nursery is 30% down on last year - and our customers return again and again, spreading the word to others, too. We never have sales and if plants don't come up to scratch, they're chucked out. It's a very simple approach but it works and it's ethical which is important to everyone here. Wouldn't you like to open a S Norfolk branch. ;-) -- Sue |
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Dahlia imperialis?
On 4/10/06 18:25, in article , "Rupert (W.Yorkshire)"
wrote: "Sacha" wrote in message ... On 4/10/06 13:19, in article , "Rupert (W.Yorkshire)" wrote: "Sacha" wrote in message ... We have two entirely different to look at Dahlias, both claiming to be D. imperialis. 'Ours' grows to something like 10 or 12 feet. In the greenhouse it goes straight up and out through the roof, flowering at the very top with rather dull single flowered blooms. OTOH, we have a wonderful one, also called D. imperialis which David Hill, who used to post here, gave us from his Abacus Nurseries. It grows to about 8' and has wonderful deep pink double blooms in profusion. Anyone any idea whether one is a sport of the other or whether we have got two entirely different plants, one named incorrectly? I'm pretty sure 'our' D. imperialis is named properly because it's easily identified by photographs. The other is just like a normal Dahlia except in its height. -- I can't shed much light on your query but I know that D.imperialis is grown by the exotic plant brigade who go for height and foliage and not the flowers. This link more or less confirms what I think (scroll to Dahlia) http://www.junglegardens.co.uk/Plant...-uk&target=d19. ht ml It can flower in the gardens of the warmer areas and ours has here though, strangely enough, not yet this year. However we always emphasise that it's a curiosity not a' serious' flowering plant if that's what people are after. I must say I'm still trying to get my breath back after seeing the price they sell those for! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ I, too have noticed the high prices of fairly ordinary garden plants when they appear on websites that offer the more exotic plants. In all fairness they do tend to be healthy large plants in big pots,as against the £3.50 for a 3cm pot with a sprig in it. Perhaps you should do a price revue of your stock:-) We charge £4 for one in a 3l pot. It's hardly a big seller and is bought out of curiosity more than anything else. And the nursery's philosophy is that fair's fair so we charge what is reasonable and don't get greedy. We're not on a main road but are in the depths of the countryside so two among the incentives that get people here, as opposed to the expensive garden centres with main roads right outside their gates, are healthy plants at fair prices. Of course, we don't have the overheads they have in terms of mortgages, bank loans and so forth and we all live right on the premises. Our 7cm pots in which we sell e.g. plants for hanging baskets have been 75p for years and they fly out the door. Yesterday, I sold a Dicksonia antarctica between 4 and 5' tall for £70. As a result of this approach, we've had a good year where many nurseries and gcs are complaining of poor sales - one wholesale Dianthus nursery is 30% down on last year - and our customers return again and again, spreading the word to others, too. We never have sales and if plants don't come up to scratch, they're chucked out. It's a very simple approach but it works and it's ethical which is important to everyone here. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ |
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Dahlia imperialis?
"Sacha" wrote in message ... On 4/10/06 18:25, in article , "Rupert (W.Yorkshire)" wrote: "Sacha" wrote in message ... On 4/10/06 13:19, in article , "Rupert (W.Yorkshire)" wrote: "Sacha" wrote in message ... We have two entirely different to look at Dahlias, both claiming to be D. imperialis. 'Ours' grows to something like 10 or 12 feet. In the greenhouse it goes straight up and out through the roof, flowering at the very top with rather dull single flowered blooms. OTOH, we have a wonderful one, also called D. imperialis which David Hill, who used to post here, gave us from his Abacus Nurseries. It grows to about 8' and has wonderful deep pink double blooms in profusion. Anyone any idea whether one is a sport of the other or whether we have got two entirely different plants, one named incorrectly? I'm pretty sure 'our' D. imperialis is named properly because it's easily identified by photographs. The other is just like a normal Dahlia except in its height. -- I can't shed much light on your query but I know that D.imperialis is grown by the exotic plant brigade who go for height and foliage and not the flowers. This link more or less confirms what I think (scroll to Dahlia) http://www.junglegardens.co.uk/Plant...-uk&target=d19. ht ml It can flower in the gardens of the warmer areas and ours has here though, strangely enough, not yet this year. However we always emphasise that it's a curiosity not a' serious' flowering plant if that's what people are after. I must say I'm still trying to get my breath back after seeing the price they sell those for! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ I, too have noticed the high prices of fairly ordinary garden plants when they appear on websites that offer the more exotic plants. In all fairness they do tend to be healthy large plants in big pots,as against the £3.50 for a 3cm pot with a sprig in it. Perhaps you should do a price revue of your stock:-) We charge £4 for one in a 3l pot. It's hardly a big seller and is bought out of curiosity more than anything else. And the nursery's philosophy is that fair's fair so we charge what is reasonable and don't get greedy. We're not on a main road but are in the depths of the countryside so two among the incentives that get people here, as opposed to the expensive garden centres with main roads right outside their gates, are healthy plants at fair prices. Of course, we don't have the overheads they have in terms of mortgages, bank loans and so forth and we all live right on the premises. Our 7cm pots in which we sell e.g. plants for hanging baskets have been 75p for years and they fly out the door. Yesterday, I sold a Dicksonia antarctica between 4 and 5' tall for £70. As a result of this approach, we've had a good year where many nurseries and gcs are complaining of poor sales - one wholesale Dianthus nursery is 30% down on last year - and our customers return again and again, spreading the word to others, too. We never have sales and if plants don't come up to scratch, they're chucked out. It's a very simple approach but it works and it's ethical which is important to everyone here. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ OK -OK I heard you the first time. Just keep quiet for a bit longer please. Give me chance to get down there with a lorry :-) Let me know when you have Strongylodon Macrobotrys back in stock |
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Dahlia imperialis?
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writes We have two entirely different to look at Dahlias, both claiming to be D. imperialis. ' Sacha what about contacting these people? http://dahlias.net/ -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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Dahlia imperialis?
On 6/10/06 13:09, in article , "Janet Tweedy"
wrote: In article , Sacha writes We have two entirely different to look at Dahlias, both claiming to be D. imperialis. ' Sacha what about contacting these people? http://dahlias.net/ Very good idea and thank you. I'll have to take some photos of our mystery tall Dahlia and send them those. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ |
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