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UK drought - end in sight
In article , Mary
Fisher wrote: "Stan The Man" wrote in message ... Try this: the Govt needs to force us to use less water, whether it rains or not. They want us to continue to use less water, whether it rains or not. Hosepipe bans are the only way they know to make this happen. So the Govt wants the bans to remain in place for as long as possible. At the very least, they want the perception of water shortage to continue for as long as possible. Hence they won't publicise the lifting of hosepipe bans - and they force the water companies to do the same (albeit they are required by law to at least put a small display ad in the local paper to say that the ban is lifted). Why do you think all this? I don't think it, I know it. I have had numerous discussions directly with Defra, the Environment Agency and the water compnaies in the south-east. They all admit privately that hosepipe bans are a sham - nothing more than a publicity device. And that all current hosepipe bans have been illegally enforced because the legislation requires that the only justification for such bans is a shortage of rainfall. Water company pipe leaks and over-development of the south-east are not acceptable by law as reasons to impose water restrictions. If you have a few days, I can list any number of documents by way of evidence to prove that the Environment Agency is manipulating the rainfall figures, misrepresenting the cause and benefits of hosepipe bans and leveraging the water companies to their own political ends. |
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UK drought - end in sight
"Stan The Man" wrote in message ... In article , Mary Fisher wrote: "Stan The Man" wrote in message ... Try this: the Govt needs to force us to use less water, whether it rains or not. They want us to continue to use less water, whether it rains or not. Hosepipe bans are the only way they know to make this happen. So the Govt wants the bans to remain in place for as long as possible. At the very least, they want the perception of water shortage to continue for as long as possible. Hence they won't publicise the lifting of hosepipe bans - and they force the water companies to do the same (albeit they are required by law to at least put a small display ad in the local paper to say that the ban is lifted). Why do you think all this? I don't think it, I know it. I have had numerous discussions directly with Defra, the Environment Agency and the water compnaies in the south-east. They all admit privately that hosepipe bans are a sham - nothing more than a publicity device. And that all current hosepipe bans have been illegally enforced because the legislation requires that the only justification for such bans is a shortage of rainfall. Water company pipe leaks and over-development of the south-east are not acceptable by law as reasons to impose water restrictions. If you have a few days, I can list any number of documents by way of evidence to prove that the Environment Agency is manipulating the rainfall figures, misrepresenting the cause and benefits of hosepipe bans and leveraging the water companies to their own political ends. No, I can't be bothered. But I can't understand why if there's such a plot that it doesn't seem that anyone has been fined for using hosepipes. I have friends in the south east and they've all used hosepipes for watering gardens, filling a swimming pool and filling children's paddling pools. The plot isn't working. |
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UK drought - end in sight
In article , Mary
Fisher wrote: "Stan The Man" wrote in message ... In article , Mary Fisher wrote: "Stan The Man" wrote in message ... Try this: the Govt needs to force us to use less water, whether it rains or not. They want us to continue to use less water, whether it rains or not. Hosepipe bans are the only way they know to make this happen. So the Govt wants the bans to remain in place for as long as possible. At the very least, they want the perception of water shortage to continue for as long as possible. Hence they won't publicise the lifting of hosepipe bans - and they force the water companies to do the same (albeit they are required by law to at least put a small display ad in the local paper to say that the ban is lifted). Why do you think all this? I don't think it, I know it. I have had numerous discussions directly with Defra, the Environment Agency and the water compnaies in the south-east. They all admit privately that hosepipe bans are a sham - nothing more than a publicity device. And that all current hosepipe bans have been illegally enforced because the legislation requires that the only justification for such bans is a shortage of rainfall. Water company pipe leaks and over-development of the south-east are not acceptable by law as reasons to impose water restrictions. If you have a few days, I can list any number of documents by way of evidence to prove that the Environment Agency is manipulating the rainfall figures, misrepresenting the cause and benefits of hosepipe bans and leveraging the water companies to their own political ends. No, I can't be bothered. But I can't understand why if there's such a plot that it doesn't seem that anyone has been fined for using hosepipes. I have friends in the south east and they've all used hosepipes for watering gardens, filling a swimming pool and filling children's paddling pools. The plot isn't working. Firstly, filling swimming pools and paddling pools with a hosepipe is perfectly legal during a hosepipe ban -- as our national newspapers have gleefully pointed out in the spring when the hosepipe restrictions were extended. The law specifies that the only hosepipe activities which can be restricted during a ban are the direct watering of gardens or washing of vehicles from the mains supply. (Hence the need to update the legislation and get rid of the anomalies.) Secondly, the water compnaies don't want to fine anyone - their PR this year has been bad enough without taking money from little old ladies. Thirdly, they can't fine anyone anyway unless they can prove that a hosepipe was connected to the mains supply at the time of the alleged infringement. A defence lawyer would simply say that the hosepipe was connected to a water butt, not the mains supply and its use was therefore legal. Hence, no cases brought because they are unwinnable. Fourthly, your friends may not be saving water but others are - allegedly there has been a 10% reduction in water consumption with all the ballyhoo ...and that was enough for Thames Water to withdraw their August application for a drought order. |
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UK drought - end in sight
"Stan The Man" wrote in message ... In article , Mary Fisher wrote: "Stan The Man" wrote in message ... In article , Mary Fisher wrote: "Stan The Man" wrote in message ... Try this: the Govt needs to force us to use less water, whether it rains or not. They want us to continue to use less water, whether it rains or not. Hosepipe bans are the only way they know to make this happen. So the Govt wants the bans to remain in place for as long as possible. At the very least, they want the perception of water shortage to continue for as long as possible. Hence they won't publicise the lifting of hosepipe bans - and they force the water companies to do the same (albeit they are required by law to at least put a small display ad in the local paper to say that the ban is lifted). Why do you think all this? I don't think it, I know it. I have had numerous discussions directly with Defra, the Environment Agency and the water compnaies in the south-east. They all admit privately that hosepipe bans are a sham - nothing more than a publicity device. And that all current hosepipe bans have been illegally enforced because the legislation requires that the only justification for such bans is a shortage of rainfall. Water company pipe leaks and over-development of the south-east are not acceptable by law as reasons to impose water restrictions. If you have a few days, I can list any number of documents by way of evidence to prove that the Environment Agency is manipulating the rainfall figures, misrepresenting the cause and benefits of hosepipe bans and leveraging the water companies to their own political ends. No, I can't be bothered. But I can't understand why if there's such a plot that it doesn't seem that anyone has been fined for using hosepipes. I have friends in the south east and they've all used hosepipes for watering gardens, filling a swimming pool and filling children's paddling pools. The plot isn't working. Firstly, filling swimming pools and paddling pools with a hosepipe is perfectly legal during a hosepipe ban -- as our national newspapers have gleefully pointed out I don't read newspapers and wouldn't rely on them for the Law.. Secondly, the water compnaies don't want to fine anyone - their PR this year has been bad enough without taking money from little old ladies. What about big old ladies - like me? Thirdly, they can't fine anyone anyway unless they can prove that a hosepipe was connected to the mains supply at the time of the alleged infringement. A defence lawyer would simply say that the hosepipe was connected to a water butt, not the mains supply and its use was therefore legal. Hence, no cases brought because they are unwinnable. What about those who are using a hosepipe but don't have a butt? Fourthly, your friends may not be saving water but others are - allegedly there has been a 10% reduction in water consumption with all the ballyhoo ...and that was enough for Thames Water to withdraw their August application for a drought order. There is a LOT of misinformation about water. I remember the hoo-ha about Yorkshire Water in the bad drought we had. There were stories about 'tankers thundering through villages' - which was utter nonsense. That example is (only) one reason why we don't buy newspapers and don't have a television. Mary |
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