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Pat Gardiner 18-11-2006 03:11 PM

Suggestions please - vacant wall
 
As some of you know, if you can grow it and eat it, I will have a go.

Picking edible outdoor figs and kiwi fruits on Nov 15 - amazing.

Anyway, my Jerusalem Artichokes have been expelled from the walled garden
for indiscipline, and Mrs Pat has banned me from growing anything quite so
likely to fall all over the path and drip all over her.

So I have a piece of wall 6' high and 3'6'' wide available, wired and ready.
Alas, it is north facing and not big enough for the usual damsons, acid
cherries, blackberries etc.

Needs to be something that likes a wall, but does not need to much sun and
is not too big....and is edible

Any ideas anyone?


--
Regards
Pat Gardiner
www.go-self-sufficient.com



Pat Gardiner 20-11-2006 06:28 PM

Suggestions please - vacant wall
 

"Pat Gardiner" wrote in message
...
As some of you know, if you can grow it and eat it, I will have a go.

Picking edible outdoor figs and kiwi fruits on Nov 15 - amazing.

Anyway, my Jerusalem Artichokes have been expelled from the walled garden
for indiscipline, and Mrs Pat has banned me from growing anything quite so
likely to fall all over the path and drip all over her.

So I have a piece of wall 6' high and 3'6'' wide available, wired and
ready. Alas, it is north facing and not big enough for the usual damsons,
acid cherries, blackberries etc.

Needs to be something that likes a wall, but does not need to much sun and
is not too big....and is edible

Any ideas anyone?


Does nobody have any idea?

I know it is difficult, but there must be something. Nature abhors a vacuum.


--
Regards
Pat Gardiner
www.go-self-sufficient.com



Charlie Pridham 21-11-2006 08:29 AM

Suggestions please - vacant wall
 

"Pat Gardiner" wrote in message
...

"Pat Gardiner" wrote in message
...
As some of you know, if you can grow it and eat it, I will have a go.

Picking edible outdoor figs and kiwi fruits on Nov 15 - amazing.

Anyway, my Jerusalem Artichokes have been expelled from the walled

garden
for indiscipline, and Mrs Pat has banned me from growing anything quite

so
likely to fall all over the path and drip all over her.

So I have a piece of wall 6' high and 3'6'' wide available, wired and
ready. Alas, it is north facing and not big enough for the usual

damsons,
acid cherries, blackberries etc.

Needs to be something that likes a wall, but does not need to much sun

and
is not too big....and is edible

Any ideas anyone?


Does nobody have any idea?

I know it is difficult, but there must be something. Nature abhors a

vacuum.


--
Regards
Pat Gardiner
www.go-self-sufficient.com


Well Holboellia will grow there and has edible fruit, but I have to say you
can get old waiting for them as it seldom sets fruit in the UK. What about
Lapageria? needs acid soil, and whether I could bring myself to eat the
edible fruit knowing their worth I am not sure!

--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collections of Clematis viticella (cvs) and
Lapageria rosea



Pat Gardiner 21-11-2006 10:50 AM

Suggestions please - vacant wall
 

"Charlie Pridham" wrote in message
...

"Pat Gardiner" wrote in message
...

"Pat Gardiner" wrote in message
...
As some of you know, if you can grow it and eat it, I will have a go.

Picking edible outdoor figs and kiwi fruits on Nov 15 - amazing.

Anyway, my Jerusalem Artichokes have been expelled from the walled

garden
for indiscipline, and Mrs Pat has banned me from growing anything quite

so
likely to fall all over the path and drip all over her.

So I have a piece of wall 6' high and 3'6'' wide available, wired and
ready. Alas, it is north facing and not big enough for the usual

damsons,
acid cherries, blackberries etc.

Needs to be something that likes a wall, but does not need to much sun

and
is not too big....and is edible

Any ideas anyone?


Does nobody have any idea?

I know it is difficult, but there must be something. Nature abhors a

vacuum.


--
Regards
Pat Gardiner
www.go-self-sufficient.com


Well Holboellia will grow there and has edible fruit, but I have to say
you
can get old waiting for them as it seldom sets fruit in the UK. What about
Lapageria? needs acid soil, and whether I could bring myself to eat the
edible fruit knowing their worth I am not sure!


Thanks for that. I was unfamiliar with both, but on checking the Holboellia
seems too tender for the site - and some varieties get too large - the
Lapageria would not like my soil or water supply. (I do grow both
Blueberries and Cranberries but on imported soil and special rainwater
supply. This site is too far away from a lime free supply.

Thanks anyway. Back to the drawing board.


--
Regards
Pat Gardiner
www.go-self-sufficient.com

--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collections of Clematis viticella (cvs) and
Lapageria rosea





echinosum 21-11-2006 03:43 PM

[quote=Charlie PridhamWhat about
Lapageria? needs acid soil, and whether I could bring myself to eat the
edible fruit knowing their worth I am not sure![/QUOTE]
You need cross-pollination for Lapagaria fruit, and in the absence of suitable hummingbirds you'll have to do it yourself. I have eaten wild-gathered Lapageria fruit in Chile, and they are tasty, rather like cherimoya/custard apple, but much smaller and a bit gritty. Unfortunately no one has ever gone out and selected them for edibility. You could keep them in large pots and let them grow up the wall - that is what I am (trying to) do. I appreciate the point about collecting enough rainwater to irrigate all of ones blueberries, rhodies, proteas, etc. But I don't find my lapageria, its pot being in a shady place, needs as much water as many of the rest.

I have a couple of Chaenomeles growing on a north-facing fence and they fruit fine - that edible enough for you?


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