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I am putting together a book with a working title of " Natures Predictions -
Traditional Ways of Predicting Life's Natural Occurrences". Examples would be cows laying down meaning rain, how high you carry a baby predicts the sex, and how high crows build their nests predicting a good summer etc. If anyone would like to let me have any of these sayings that they can remember, then I would be happy to put their name along side it in my book. |
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In article , Sharon
Brackenbury writes I am putting together a book with a working title of " Natures Predictions - Traditional Ways of Predicting Life's Natural Occurrences". Examples would be cows laying down meaning rain, how high you carry a baby predicts the sex, and how high crows build their nests predicting a good summer etc. If anyone would like to let me have any of these sayings that they can remember, then I would be happy to put their name along side it in my book. Lots of Berries on the bushes and trees a bad winter Why does cows lying down mean rain? Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Forthcoming reunions. Royal Navy Social Weekend Sussex May 2nd - 5th. H.M.S.Collingwood Association Chatham May 30th - June 2nd British Pacific Fleet Hayling Island Sept 5th - 8th Castle Class Corvettes Assn. Isle of Wight. Oct 3rd - 6th. Plus many more |
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"Mike" wrote in message ... In article , Sharon Brackenbury writes I am putting together a book with a working title of " Natures Predictions - Traditional Ways of Predicting Life's Natural Occurrences". Examples would be cows laying down meaning rain, how high you carry a baby predicts the sex, and how high crows build their nests predicting a good summer etc. If anyone would like to let me have any of these sayings that they can remember, then I would be happy to put their name along side it in my book. Lots of Berries on the bushes and trees a bad winter Why does cows lying down mean rain? LOL that was always my question when I was a child. They mght just have been tired:) O |
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Recently, Ophelia uttered:
"Mike" wrote in message ... In article , Sharon Brackenbury writes I am putting together a book with a working title of " Natures Predictions - Traditional Ways of Predicting Life's Natural Occurrences". Examples would be cows laying down meaning rain, how high you carry a baby predicts the sex, and how high crows build their nests predicting a good summer etc. If anyone would like to let me have any of these sayings that they can remember, then I would be happy to put their name along side it in my book. Lots of Berries on the bushes and trees a bad winter Why does cows lying down mean rain? LOL that was always my question when I was a child. They mght just have been tired:) O We always thought it was because the grass they lay on would be dry after the rain, and there would be no worms on the surface so they could continue munching as soon as the rain stopped !! -- \\(º`¿´º)// It's all on http://support.microsoft.com/ somewhere.... If you can be bothered to look for it.... |
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Mike wrote:
In article , Sharon Brackenbury writes I am putting together a book with a working title of " Natures Predictions - Traditional Ways of Predicting Life's Natural Occurrences". Examples would be cows laying down meaning rain, how high you carry a baby predicts the sex, and how high crows build their nests predicting a good summer etc. If anyone would like to let me have any of these sayings that they can remember, then I would be happy to put their name along side it in my book. Lots of Berries on the bushes and trees a bad winter Why does cows lying down mean rain? ...... Even a cow knows that if you lie on wet grass you will catch cold. Therefore, doesn't it make sense to preserve a bit of dry grass to lie on before it starts raining? -- ned ....... isn't it a shame that common sense is not all that common. ;-) |
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Mike wrote:
Hello Mike M Why does cows lying down mean rain? Old wives' tale. They lie down when they want to. -- Simon Avery, Dartmoor, UK Ý http://www.digdilem.org/ |
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In article , ned
writes Mike wrote: In article , Sharon Brackenbury writes I am putting together a book with a working title of " Natures Predictions - Traditional Ways of Predicting Life's Natural Occurrences". Examples would be cows laying down meaning rain, how high you carry a baby predicts the sex, and how high crows build their nests predicting a good summer etc. If anyone would like to let me have any of these sayings that they can remember, then I would be happy to put their name along side it in my book. Lots of Berries on the bushes and trees a bad winter Why does cows lying down mean rain? ..... Even a cow knows that if you lie on wet grass you will catch cold. Therefore, doesn't it make sense to preserve a bit of dry grass to lie on before it starts raining? -- ned ...... isn't it a shame that common sense is not all that common. ;-) well it just goes to show that I didn't use any common sense or I would have seen that ;-( Thick Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Forthcoming reunions. Royal Navy Social Weekend Sussex May 2nd - 5th. H.M.S.Collingwood Association Chatham May 30th - June 2nd British Pacific Fleet Hayling Island Sept 5th - 8th Castle Class Corvettes Assn. Isle of Wight. Oct 3rd - 6th. Plus many more |
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In article , Sharon
Brackenbury writes Examples would be cows laying down meaning rain, How do cows 'know' it's going to rain? I've never seen any looking at the weather forecast. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Forthcoming reunions. Royal Navy Social Weekend Sussex May 2nd - 5th. H.M.S.Collingwood Association Chatham May 30th - June 2nd British Pacific Fleet Hayling Island Sept 5th - 8th Castle Class Corvettes Assn. Isle of Wight. Oct 3rd - 6th. Plus many more |
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Recently, Sharon Brackenbury uttered:
I am putting together a book with a working title of " Natures Predictions - Traditional Ways of Predicting Life's Natural Occurrences". Examples would be cows laying down meaning rain, how high you carry a baby predicts the sex, and how high crows build their nests predicting a good summer etc. If anyone would like to let me have any of these sayings that they can remember, then I would be happy to put their name along side it in my book. Here's a few we remember from a while back.... Bad weather gets better, a bad man never does. When the wind shifts against the sun, trust it not, for back it will run. If you lie down with dogs, you are going to get fleas. Whistling woman and crowing hen never come to a good end. Clear moon, frost soon. April showers bring May flowers. Seagull, seagull sit on the sand, it's never good weather when you're on the land. Ring around the moon, storm coming soon. -- \\(º`¿´º)// It's all on http://support.microsoft.com/ somewhere.... If you can be bothered to look for it.... |
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On Wed, 16 Apr 2003 23:15:16 +0100, Bigjon wrote:
We always thought it was because the grass they lay on would be dry after the rain, and there would be no worms on the surface so they could continue munching as soon as the rain stopped !! The cows round here must have perfected the five day forecast then - 'cos as I cycled home past the cows this afternoon I noted they were all lying down, despite the heat and sunshine. I think they just get bored of standing up. One cow sits down and all the others think 'Hey, what a great idea' - so they all sit down for an hour or so until one cow gets bored and decides to have a bit of a stand-up. Then all the other cows think 'Hey, what a great idea' ( cows are very susceptible to peer pressure, you see ) and they all get up again. Of course it could just be the cow's national sport - making human observers scan the horizon for clouds. They probably score points depending on which direction the observer looks first - with the ultimate goal being to get said observer to stick a finger in his gob and hold it up to the prevailing wind. I'm sure if you listen carefully at this point you'll hear a very faint 'Yaaay' from the cows. It has been said that cows can naturally tune into radio transmissions, their default frequency being that of Radio 4. They have never, ever missed a weather forecast... or an episode of the Archers - which explains a lot about their slightly distant, insane expressions. Regards, -- Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations http://www.shwoodwind.co.uk Emails to: showard{who is at}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk |
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On Wed, 16 Apr 2003 23:15:16 +0100, Bigjon wrote: We always thought it was because the grass they lay on would be dry after the rain, and there would be no worms on the surface so they could continue munching as soon as the rain stopped !! The cows round here must have perfected the five day forecast then - 'cos as I cycled home past the cows this afternoon I noted they were all lying down, despite the heat and sunshine. I think they just get bored of standing up. One cow sits down and all the others think 'Hey, what a great idea' - so they all sit down for an hour or so until one cow gets bored and decides to have a bit of a stand-up. Then all the other cows think 'Hey, what a great idea' ( cows are very susceptible to peer pressure, you see ) and they all get up again. Of course it could just be the cow's national sport - making human observers scan the horizon for clouds. They probably score points depending on which direction the observer looks first - with the ultimate goal being to get said observer to stick a finger in his gob and hold it up to the prevailing wind. I'm sure if you listen carefully at this point you'll hear a very faint 'Yaaay' from the cows. It has been said that cows can naturally tune into radio transmissions, their default frequency being that of Radio 4. They have never, ever missed a weather forecast... or an episode of the Archers - which explains a lot about their slightly distant, insane expressions. Regards, He He... like it ! -- \\(º`¿´º)// It's all on http://support.microsoft.com/ somewhere.... If you can be bothered to look for it.... |
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On Wed, 16 Apr 2003 21:08:48 +0100, Mike
wrote: Lots of Berries on the bushes and trees a bad winter Yep, the Rowan tree is the true guide . Anyway, you naughty thing you, there is no such thing as a "bad winter". There are "hard winters" - which coincidentally are very good at giving pests a difficult ride etc. etc. Ok Ok . There are no such things as pests, only animals/plants inconvenient to homo sapiens. Pejorative words. Avoiding them? Round and round in circles ....... goes the Teddy Bear. One step, two step, tickly under there. Huss Grow a little garden spam block - for real addy, reverse letters of second level domain. |
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"Bigjon" wrote in message We always thought it was because the grass they lay on would be dry after the rain, and there would be no worms on the surface so they could continue munching as soon as the rain stopped !! Mabe but have you never seen them galloping to the shelter of trees when the rain starts:) O |
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In article , Hussein M.
writes tickly under there. Where? ;-} -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Forthcoming reunions. Royal Navy Social Weekend Sussex May 2nd - 5th. H.M.S.Collingwood Association Chatham May 30th - June 2nd British Pacific Fleet Hayling Island Sept 5th - 8th Castle Class Corvettes Assn. Isle of Wight. Oct 3rd - 6th. Plus many more |
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In article , Stephen Howard
writes On Wed, 16 Apr 2003 23:15:16 +0100, Bigjon wrote: We always thought it was because the grass they lay on would be dry after the rain, and there would be no worms on the surface so they could continue munching as soon as the rain stopped !! The cows round here must have perfected the five day forecast then - 'cos as I cycled home past the cows this afternoon I noted they were all lying down, despite the heat and sunshine. I think they just get bored of standing up. One cow sits down and all the others think 'Hey, what a great idea' - so they all sit down for an hour or so until one cow gets bored and decides to have a bit of a stand-up. Then all the other cows think 'Hey, what a great idea' ( cows are very susceptible to peer pressure, you see ) and they all get up again. Of course it could just be the cow's national sport - making human observers scan the horizon for clouds. They probably score points depending on which direction the observer looks first - with the ultimate goal being to get said observer to stick a finger in his gob and hold it up to the prevailing wind. I'm sure if you listen carefully at this point you'll hear a very faint 'Yaaay' from the cows. It has been said that cows can naturally tune into radio transmissions, their default frequency being that of Radio 4. They have never, ever missed a weather forecast... or an episode of the Archers - which explains a lot about their slightly distant, insane expressions. Regards, I think you are pulling our legs and I for one am not going to believe you. Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Forthcoming reunions. Royal Navy Social Weekend Sussex May 2nd - 5th. H.M.S.Collingwood Association Chatham May 30th - June 2nd British Pacific Fleet Hayling Island Sept 5th - 8th Castle Class Corvettes Assn. Isle of Wight. Oct 3rd - 6th. Plus many more |
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On Thu, 17 Apr 2003 08:37:01 +0100, Mike
wrote: I think you are pulling our legs and I for one am not going to believe you. OK, OK, I made up the bit about Radio 4..... Regards, -- Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations www.shwoodwind.co.uk Emails to: showard{whoisat}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk |
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Ophelia wrote:
"Mike" wrote in message ... [-] Why does cows lying down mean rain? LOL that was always my question when I was a child. They mght just have been tired:) That's what the man on R4 said the other day. Apparently they're not keeping the grass dry, they're just feeling more tired than usual because of the heat/humidity/etc that presages a rainstorm. Until the man proves he's spoken to the animals and understood their replies, I beg leave to doubt that one, too. *I* think it's a conspiracy, that in fact cows teach their calves to lie down before it rains because they know that pondering the reasons for their behaviour has wasted decades of human time and brainpower. If it wasn't for cows lying down before it rains, we'd have world peace, cold fusion, and faster-than-light travel. Revenge is a dish best eaten cold, and the cows know it. regards sarah -- "Great is truth, but still greater, from a practical point of view, is silence about truth." Aldous Huxley |
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On Thu, 17 Apr 2003 08:35:05 +0100, Mike
wrote: In article , Hussein M. writes tickly under there. Where? ;-} Wherever you least expect it ...... of course. Huss Grow a little garden spam block - for real addy, reverse letters of second level domain. |
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"Sharon Brackenbury" wrote in message ... I am putting together a book with a working title of " Natures Predictions - Traditional Ways of Predicting Life's Natural Occurrences". Examples would be cows laying down meaning rain, how high you carry a baby predicts the sex, and how high crows build their nests predicting a good summer etc. If anyone would like to let me have any of these sayings that they can remember, then I would be happy to put their name along side it in my book. Big feet big.......... shoes pk |
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"Stephen Howard" wrote in message ... On Thu, 17 Apr 2003 08:37:01 +0100, Mike wrote: I think you are pulling our legs and I for one am not going to believe you. OK, OK, I made up the bit about Radio 4..... Sheeesh that is the only bit I believed!!! O |
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"Sharon Brackenbury" wrote in message ... I am putting together a book with a working title of " Natures Predictions - Traditional Ways of Predicting Life's Natural Occurrences". Examples would be cows laying down meaning rain, how high you carry a baby predicts the sex, and how high crows build their nests predicting a good summer etc. If anyone would like to let me have any of these sayings that they can remember, then I would be happy to put their name along side it in my book. oak before ash - in for a splash ash before oak - in for a soak heard yesterday when looking at the ash out already - although this year the oak is not far behind -- Jill Bowis http://www.poultryscotland.co.uk http://www.henhouses.co.uk http://www.domesticducks.co.uk http://www.poultry-books.co.uk http://www.kintaline.co.uk/cottage |
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In message , Hussein M.
writes On Wed, 16 Apr 2003 21:08:48 +0100, Mike wrote: Lots of Berries on the bushes and trees a bad winter Yep, the Rowan tree is the true guide . Not a chance - the minute there's any suggestion of the berries colouring on our rowan tree and the entire local blackbird population comes visiting............. our rowan is never a guide to anything except the speed at which the blackbirds can eat! Jill -- http://www.bellsbarn.demon.co.uk (Gardens, geraniums and photographs) |
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In message , Bigjon
writes Whistling woman and crowing hen never come to a good end. Or as my science teacher told me "Whistling woman and crowing hen are neither good for mice nor men" ...................... and 38 years down the line I still remember her telling me that when I was whistling in a practical lesson - but it's never stopped me whistling. Jill -- http://www.bellsbarn.demon.co.uk (Gardens, geraniums and photographs) |
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"Mike" wrote in message ... In article , Sharon Brackenbury writes I am putting together a book with a working title of " Natures Predictions - Traditional Ways of Predicting Life's Natural Occurrences". Examples would be cows laying down meaning rain, how high you carry a baby predicts the sex, and how high crows build their nests predicting a good summer etc. If anyone would like to let me have any of these sayings that they can remember, then I would be happy to put their name along side it in my book. Lots of Berries on the bushes and trees a bad winter Why does cows lying down mean rain? Mike They don't like laying down on wet grass. By lying down before it rains, they have a dry tummy :~) Jenny |
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JennyC wrote:
"Mike" wrote in message ... In article , Sharon Brackenbury writes I am putting together a book with a working title of " Natures Predictions - Traditional Ways of Predicting Life's Natural Occurrences". Examples would be cows laying down meaning rain, how high you carry a baby predicts the sex, and how high crows build their nests predicting a good summer etc. If anyone would like to let me have any of these sayings that they can remember, then I would be happy to put their name along side it in my book. Lots of Berries on the bushes and trees a bad winter Why does cows lying down mean rain? Mike They don't like laying down on wet grass. By lying down before it rains, they have a dry tummy :~) Jenny Oh well said, Jenny. That's two votes for dry tummies (and dangly bits). 'You know it makes sense'. ;-) -- ned |
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from Bigjon contains these words: Seagull, seagull sit on the sand, it's never good weather when you're on the land. Well that can't be true..in the warm dry calm weather we've had for weeks now, the local seagulls sunbathe on sand or on pasture for hours at a time. Janet |
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In article , Hussein M. writes On Wed, 16 Apr 2003 21:08:48 +0100, Mike wrote: Lots of Berries on the bushes and trees a bad winter Yep, the Rowan tree is the true guide . Err, I hope both your tongues were in your cheeks when you wrote that. It's rubbish :-) -- Malcolm |
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On Fri, 18 Apr 2003 07:17:00 +0100, Malcolm
wrote: In article , Hussein M. writes On Wed, 16 Apr 2003 21:08:48 +0100, Mike wrote: Lots of Berries on the bushes and trees a bad winter Yep, the Rowan tree is the true guide . Err, I hope both your tongues were in your cheeks when you wrote that. It's rubbish :-) Nope. didn't have a clue really - despite the confidence of my assertion. I had simply heard it said .......... Goodee goodee. Another illusion gone! H. Grow a little garden spam block - for real addy, reverse letters of second level domain. |
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In article , Hussein M. writes On Fri, 18 Apr 2003 07:17:00 +0100, Malcolm wrote: In article , Hussein M. writes On Wed, 16 Apr 2003 21:08:48 +0100, Mike wrote: Lots of Berries on the bushes and trees a bad winter Yep, the Rowan tree is the true guide . Err, I hope both your tongues were in your cheeks when you wrote that. It's rubbish :-) Nope. didn't have a clue really - despite the confidence of my assertion. I had simply heard it said .......... Goodee goodee. Another illusion gone! It is *very* commonly said, not least in the meedja every autumn, but is completely without foundation, indeed biologically impossible! -- Malcolm |
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Hi Sharon,
"One swallow doesn't make a summer". "If the ash before the oak, we're in for a soak, if the oak before the ash, we're in for a splash". Works more often than not in foretelling the weather for the coming summer. As every dairy farmer knows, most cows from an early age, like many humans, suffer from rheumatism. That is why they sit down in grassland before the onset of rain. We have been able to produce cows that give very heavy milk yields, but not alas eradicate their rheumatics. That unfortunately for the cow is of secondary importance. Bill Brewer |
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In article , Bill Brewer writes Hi Sharon, "One swallow doesn't make a summer". "If the ash before the oak, we're in for a soak, if the oak before the ash, we're in for a splash". Works more often than not in foretelling the weather for the coming summer. Err, it can't possibly work - ever! The leaf appearance time of trees is to do with the past and current conditions and is nothing whatsoever to do with the weather to come. How could it possibly be otherwise? The same applies to the autumn berry crop which a similar old wives' tale suggests that it presages a hard winter to come. As every dairy farmer knows, most cows from an early age, like many humans, suffer from rheumatism. With respect, humans rarely suffer from rheumatism "from an early age". I'm interested that you say that cows do. Why is that, do you think? That is why they sit down in grassland before the onset of rain. We have been able to produce cows that give very heavy milk yields, but not alas eradicate their rheumatics. That unfortunately for the cow is of secondary importance. Hmm. How long before the rain do they sit down? How often do they sit down and no rain appears? How much rain is needed to make them sit down? Are you saying that they never sit down in periods of drought, such as we have just been experiencing? Where I live, we haven't had any rain since last Sunday night and none is forecast until next Monday, yet I can see some cows sitting down right now! And I don't believe that they haven't sat down at anytime this week. -- Malcolm (Skeptics 'R Us) |
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Malcolm wrote:
It is *very* commonly said, not least in the meedja every autumn, but is completely without foundation, indeed biologically impossible! In the northeastern U.S., the big winter prognosticator is the "woolly worm" AKA "woolly bear," a black and yellow striped caterpillar whose stripe widths predict the harshness of the upcoming winter, Unfortunately, no two are alike, and nobody can agree on which stripe, wide or narrow, means what. But come this fall, the subject will beaten to death again. I'm a "play it as it lays" kind of guy myself... Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at www.albany.net/~gwoods Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1200' elevation. NY WO G |
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"Malcolm" wrote in a message: In article Bill Brewer writes, "If the ash before the oak, we're in for a soak, if the oak before the ash, we're in for a splash". Works more often than not in foretelling the weather for the coming summer. ----------------------- Malcolm, check the saying out for a few years and you might be surprised to find that it has some validity. I did say that it, "works more often than not". Don't ask me why. With regard to humans suffering rheumatism, " from an early age". Many young people DO. I have had much experience of school children having the often crippling disease. I had charge of 40 Guernsey cows and 2 bulls that would always sit down in the fields before the onset of rain, it happened more often than not to be sheer coincidence. As you no doubt know, rheumatism is a disease of the joints brought on by wear, an accident or some other unrelated disease. Overweight people are prone to rheumatics as are overweight cows. The highest milk yield is the first milking of the day making the average cow a heavy beast. The added weight of a full udder only adds to the animal's discomfort and stress on the joints. Of course cows will sit down during the day, but not all at the same time. Cows "cat nap" more often in the afternoon than the morning as they don't sleep right through the night as we humans do. Hey, isn't this supposed to be a gardening newsgroup? Bill Brewer As every dairy farmer knows, most cows from an early age, like many humans, suffer from rheumatism. With respect, humans rarely suffer from rheumatism "from an early age". I'm interested that you say that cows do. Why is that, do you think? That is why they sit down in grassland before the onset of rain. We have been able to produce cows that give very heavy milk yields, but not alas eradicate their rheumatics. That unfortunately for the cow is of secondary importance. Hmm. How long before the rain do they sit down? How often do they sit down and no rain appears? How much rain is needed to make them sit down? Are you saying that they never sit down in periods of drought, such as we have just been experiencing? Where I live, we haven't had any rain since last Sunday night and none is forecast until next Monday, yet I can see some cows sitting down right now! And I don't believe that they haven't sat down at anytime this week. -- Malcolm (Skeptics 'R Us) |
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In article , Bill Brewer writes "Malcolm" wrote in a message: In article Bill Brewer writes, "If the ash before the oak, we're in for a soak, if the oak before the ash, we're in for a splash". Works more often than not in foretelling the weather for the coming summer. ----------------------- Malcolm, check the saying out for a few years and you might be surprised to find that it has some validity. I did say that it, "works more often than not". Don't ask me why. Coincidence. No more and no less! With regard to humans suffering rheumatism, " from an early age". Many young people DO. I have had much experience of school children having the often crippling disease. That's very sad. I had charge of 40 Guernsey cows and 2 bulls that would always sit down in the fields before the onset of rain, it happened more often than not to be sheer coincidence. As you no doubt know, rheumatism is a disease of the joints brought on by wear, an accident or some other unrelated disease. Among other things, including heredity. Overweight people are prone to rheumatics as are overweight cows. The highest milk yield is the first milking of the day making the average cow a heavy beast. The added weight of a full udder only adds to the animal's discomfort and stress on the joints. Of course cows will sit down during the day, but not all at the same time. Cows "cat nap" more often in the afternoon than the morning as they don't sleep right through the night as we humans do. Hey, isn't this supposed to be a gardening newsgroup? Yep, indeed. And I'm a scientist who automatically questions sayings such as yours and needs to see proof of them. In the case of the cows, it is, at best, anecdotal and might be worth looking into more scientifically. -- Malcolm |
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"Mike" wrote in message
... Why does cows lying down mean rain? It may be an urban myth, but I've heard that it's only true for thunderstorms. If lightning strikes the ground near a cow and it is standing up, there can be enough electrical potential between the front and back legs of the cow to kill it. If it's lying down the current takes a different route and it's OK. Sounds far-fetched to me but you never know. Martin |
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In article , Malcolm
writes In article , Bill Brewer writes "Malcolm" wrote in a message: In article Bill Brewer writes, "If the ash before the oak, we're in for a soak, if the oak before the ash, we're in for a splash". Works more often than not in foretelling the weather for the coming summer. ----------------------- Malcolm, check the saying out for a few years and you might be surprised to find that it has some validity. I did say that it, "works more often than not". Don't ask me why. Coincidence. No more and no less! Could be more than that. Could be that a particular type of summer weather is more likely after a particular type of spring weather - ie both leaf budding and summer weather bear a relationship to spring weather. Sounds improbable, though. Weather is more complicated than that. -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
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Kay Easton wrote:
Weather is more complicated than that. Am I the only one here who takes a perverse glee in that? The clear fact that _something_ in this world is, despite our best efforts, unpredictable. I remember not so long ago that the meteorologists were saying happily that with new computer power and increased datapoints, the forecasts were getting better and better. Truth is, the only big improvement came when satellites provided data for places of the earth only seen by passing pilots, and since the late 60s all the computer horsepower available hasn't helped much. I like that a lot... there's got to be some old Druids somewhere in the family tree. I just spotted an elephant in the garden, amidst the smaller "real" garlics. Spring for sure, even in the chilly (former) American colonies. Cheers, all! Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at www.albany.net/~gwoods Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1200' elevation. NY WO G |
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In article , Kay Easton writes In article , Malcolm writes In article , Bill Brewer writes "Malcolm" wrote in a message: In article Bill Brewer writes, "If the ash before the oak, we're in for a soak, if the oak before the ash, we're in for a splash". Works more often than not in foretelling the weather for the coming summer. ----------------------- Malcolm, check the saying out for a few years and you might be surprised to find that it has some validity. I did say that it, "works more often than not". Don't ask me why. Coincidence. No more and no less! Could be more than that. Could be that a particular type of summer weather is more likely after a particular type of spring weather - ie both leaf budding and summer weather bear a relationship to spring weather. Sounds improbable, though. Weather is more complicated than that. The 'holy grail' of accurate long-range forecasting has been sought by the Met Office with the aid of one of the world's most powerful computers and has yet to be found. There are no such patterns as you describe. -- Malcolm |
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In message , Kay Easton
writes Could be more than that. Could be that a particular type of summer weather is more likely after a particular type of spring weather - ie both leaf budding and summer weather bear a relationship to spring weather. Sounds improbable, though. Weather is more complicated than that. I thought it was all to do with a butterfly flapping its wings in Hong Kong? (She asks - innocently:-)) Jill -- http://www.bellsbarn.demon.co.uk (Gardens, geraniums and photographs) |
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