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shrub / tree identification
"Sacha" wrote in message . uk... On 23/1/07 23:41, in article lid, "Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote: snip I don't know Pseudocamellia stewartia. I'm interpreting the photo as showing a capsule with 5 locules which have separated, so the capsule as a whole is quite blunt. I would also interpret the capsule as being chartaceous (parchment-like) rather than woody. A photograph of the innards of the capsule might assist identification. I can't find a pic of the seed pod of the Stewartia. The plant is unusual but not rare. The OP didn't give any description of a flower, so I'm assuming he hasn't seen one yet but obviously that would help a lot. Perhaps a neighbour would know? In the pic of the seed pods they look as if they've been hanging around for a long time and so are rather dried out. It would be interesting to know what they look like when fresh. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ (remove weeds from address) Do they flower like that up the stems? I have never seen one in seed or flower. The pods in the picture reminded me a little of Paulownia but not quite right and they would be more in bunches, still it might be a relative! -- Charlie, gardening in Cornwall. http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk Holders of National Plant Collections of Clematis viticella (cvs) and Lapageria rosea |
Hi, i must admit i thought it was a hazel at first, not that i know what i'm talking about.
I've also seen some pics of a hibiscus that have very similar leaves, assuming i showed you the right leaf pic lol. there are no other bushy shrubs around it, as you can see from the main pic, so i think i have the right one. i've been looking at lots of leaves on the net and it does seem more like a shrub than a tree, there are too many variations to be certain though. thanks |
shrub / tree identification
"lowlife" wrote in message ... hi i really need to find out what this shrub or tree is, as it has mould on it that probably wants treating. i'll describe it and link 3 photo's from photobucket (hope that's allowed). firstly i live in surrey. the soil is clay but well mixed now. the shrub is about 5 ft high, round in form with grey / brown smooth bark. the buds are very small and staggered as opposed to pairs, and there are no leaves on it at this time. on the end of each branch there is a group of brown open seed pods. the fungi is clustered on the lower branches and looks like white/pale cyan granules. i've taken a pic of the tree, the pods and the fungus or whatever it is http://tinyurl.com/29ej9r http://tinyurl.com/22c58j http://tinyurl.com/2ghxb2 i hope they work. failing that, does anyone know of an online plant finder? thanks -- lowlife Hi, I'd go with Hibiscus syriacus, I've just been out and had a look at my Hibiscus syriacus 'Oiseau bleu', the structure and seed pods looks very similar to your photos, so I thought I'd take a picture of it: http://www.ukgardening.co.uk/images/...s_syriacus.jpg (I held up a white card behind the seed head, else it wouldn't stand out against the browns of the beech hedge behind it). Here's a picture of it in full flower, along with leaf detail: http://www.ukgardening.co.uk/images/...hibiscus12.jpg As others have said the 'fungus' is lichen and won't do any harm. I live in Surrey, but on sandy soil. Hope this helps. Cheers Nick http://www.ukgardening.co.uk |
shrub / tree identification
On 25/1/07 12:22, in article , "Nick Gray"
wrote: snip I'd go with Hibiscus syriacus, I've just been out and had a look at my Hibiscus syriacus 'Oiseau bleu', the structure and seed pods looks very similar to your photos, so I thought I'd take a picture of it: http://www.ukgardening.co.uk/images/...s_syriacus.jpg (I held up a white card behind the seed head, else it wouldn't stand out against the browns of the beech hedge behind it). Here's a picture of it in full flower, along with leaf detail: http://www.ukgardening.co.uk/images/...hibiscus12.jpg Perhaps you didn't see the link to the picture of the leaves of the plant in question? They're not remotely like a Hibiscus, unfortunately and seem to resemble a hazel more closely! -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ (remove weeds from address) |
shrub / tree identification
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http://www.ukgardening.co.uk/images/...s_syriacus.jpg (I held up a white card behind the seed head, else it wouldn't stand out against the browns of the beech hedge behind it). Here's a picture of it in full flower, along with leaf detail: http://www.ukgardening.co.uk/images/...hibiscus12.jpg Perhaps you didn't see the link to the picture of the leaves of the plant in question? They're not remotely like a Hibiscus, unfortunately and seem to resemble a hazel more closely! -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ (remove weeds from address) Oh bugger, No I didn't see that link, the header didn't download for some reason. I agree with you that the photo looks like a hazel leaf, but can't see a nearby hazel in the foreground or background, but also there is no flower buds on that photo either, so I wonder whether the OP got the photos mixed up. Very odd and I'm now intrigued to find out what it is. Cheers Nick http://www.ukgardening.co.uk |
shrub / tree identification
"Nick Gray" wrote in message ... snip http://www.ukgardening.co.uk/images/...s_syriacus.jpg (I held up a white card behind the seed head, else it wouldn't stand out against the browns of the beech hedge behind it). Here's a picture of it in full flower, along with leaf detail: http://www.ukgardening.co.uk/images/...hibiscus12.jpg Perhaps you didn't see the link to the picture of the leaves of the plant in question? They're not remotely like a Hibiscus, unfortunately and seem to resemble a hazel more closely! -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ (remove weeds from address) Oh bugger, No I didn't see that link, the header didn't download for some reason. I agree with you that the photo looks like a hazel leaf, but can't see a nearby hazel in the foreground or background, but also there is no flower buds on that photo either, so I wonder whether the OP got the photos mixed up. Very odd and I'm now intrigued to find out what it is. Cheers Nick http://www.ukgardening.co.uk Yes-I don't think we have yet established that those leaves belong to that tree/shrub--or have we? :-) |
shrub / tree identification
On 25/1/07 13:32, in article , "Rupert (W.Yorkshire)"
wrote: "Nick Gray" wrote in message ... snip http://www.ukgardening.co.uk/images/...s_syriacus.jpg (I held up a white card behind the seed head, else it wouldn't stand out against the browns of the beech hedge behind it). Here's a picture of it in full flower, along with leaf detail: http://www.ukgardening.co.uk/images/...hibiscus12.jpg Perhaps you didn't see the link to the picture of the leaves of the plant in question? They're not remotely like a Hibiscus, unfortunately and seem to resemble a hazel more closely! -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ (remove weeds from address) Oh bugger, No I didn't see that link, the header didn't download for some reason. I agree with you that the photo looks like a hazel leaf, but can't see a nearby hazel in the foreground or background, but also there is no flower buds on that photo either, so I wonder whether the OP got the photos mixed up. Very odd and I'm now intrigued to find out what it is. Cheers Nick http://www.ukgardening.co.uk Yes-I don't think we have yet established that those leaves belong to that tree/shrub--or have we? :-) Not necessarily. The OP didn't seem quite sure of what he'd taken, when. It's confusing when you don't know much about trees and shrubs and you see them without flowers on, so I think that he and we, will have to possess our souls in patience! -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ (remove weeds from address) |
hi me again, well lets work backwards. if we think the leaves belong to a hazel or large shrub such as hibiscus, there is nothing else in the garden like that. it's predominantly a dahlia bed, with a few other shrubs with berries and some lilies. as you can see from the distant photo, there's not much else there. so on that basis i think i have the right leaves. the branches seem to be quite sparse, with other twig branches at quite large intervals along the main branches. at the end, or near the end of each branch there is a group of these flower head / pod things.
there are no flowers along the main branches, only on or near the end of the branches or offshoots. the shrub / tree is a round shape about 5ft high and about the same across. hope that helps |
shrub / tree identification
On 25/1/07 16:39, in article , "lowlife"
wrote: hi me again, well lets work backwards. if we think the leaves belong to a hazel or large shrub such as hibiscus, there is nothing else in the garden like that. it's predominantly a dahlia bed, with a few other shrubs with berries and some lilies. as you can see from the distant photo, there's not much else there. so on that basis i think i have the right leaves. the branches seem to be quite sparse, with other twig branches at quite large intervals along the main branches. at the end, or near the end of each branch there is a group of these flower head / pod things. there are no flowers along the main branches, only on or near the end of the branches or offshoots. the shrub / tree is a round shape about 5ft high and about the same across. hope that helps Well, not me, I must admit! Do you have a neighbour who could tell you what it looks like when in flower? -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ (remove weeds from address) |
shrub / tree identification
"lowlife" wrote in message ... hi me again, well lets work backwards. if we think the leaves belong to a hazel or large shrub such as hibiscus, there is nothing else in the garden like that. it's predominantly a dahlia bed, with a few other shrubs with berries and some lilies. as you can see from the distant photo, there's not much else there. so on that basis i think i have the right leaves. the branches seem to be quite sparse, with other twig branches at quite large intervals along the main branches. at the end, or near the end of each branch there is a group of these flower head / pod things. there are no flowers along the main branches, only on or near the end of the branches or offshoots. the shrub / tree is a round shape about 5ft high and about the same across. hope that helps -- lowlife Everything, with the exception of that photo of the leaf, still leads me to believe that it is Hibiscus syriacus. My hibiscus looks exactly the same as yours at the moment, about 5 foot with open branches, seed pods on the end of the branches, no leaves, browny-grey bark etc. It's just that photo of the leaf that is throwing a spanner in the works. But your original question was: "i really need to find out what this shrub or tree is, as it has mould on it that probably wants treating." and we've established that it's lichen, which won't do any harm and doesn't need treating, so I think it might be a case of sitting and waiting for the plant to flower and then we can get a better idea of what it might be, if not Hibiscus. BTW it looks like it's been looked after, and pruned well into a nice shape, who's done this? maybe they remember what it looked like in summer or know what it is? Cheers Nick http://www.ukgardening.co.uk |
shrub / tree identification
In article , Bob Hobden
writes Yes, I too have it on some of my shrubs. You should consider yourself very lucky that you have lichens in your garden, they only grow in good quality air and have only made a slow comeback since the Clean Air Act forced people to use other forms of heating besides coal/wood in London. Cherish it, it's a fascinating story in itself. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lichens We have loads on our trees in the garden and around the area. However a lot of people in Amersham burn wood fires, it seems to be a fashionable thing nowadays, though they tend to bur logs for 'supplementary' heat as opposed to us, who burn logs for main lounge heating. -- Janet Tweedy Amersham Gardening Association http://www.amersham-gardening.net |
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