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George.com 03-02-2007 12:08 PM

Grow your own veg!
 

"Alan Holmes" wrote in message
...

There is a programme currently on TV about growing your own veg and it is
claimed that a plot 3 metres (10 feet) square can provide you with veg all
years round.

Is that really possible?

Alan


and what about the stuff that dies, do you stop eating for a month waiting
for replacements to grow? What about crop rotation, companion planting etc.
It takes a while for new gardeners to catch on to skills around rotation,
inter cropping and the like. What if you put down a crop of potatos, where
else do you plant whilst they grow?

I have several garden wider than 1m and longer than 3 m (ie, each more than
3m square). 1 is 2/3 full of potatos, which take months to grow, and 1/3
with peas which mildew has just got. Another is 2/3 full of tomato plants
(which blight is having a merry time with) and the rest of the area broccoli
and beetroot. If the tomatos follow the peas I am supposed to stop eating
veges for a while.

If you are new to gardening unless you constantly watch for disease and
pests the crop may go west, by the time you figure out what the disease is
it is to late.

Only way I can see it working really successfully is if you resort to things
like green leaf veges like lettuce, carrots and continually plant, keep the
soil working 365 days, keep things growing with artificial fertilisers, use
sprays and buy young plants from a nursery ready propogated on an ongoing
basis.

rob



Alan Holmes 03-02-2007 08:21 PM

Grow your own veg!
 

There is a programme currently on TV about growing your own veg and it is
claimed that a plot 3 metres (10 feet) square can provide you with veg all
years round.

Is that really possible?

Alan



Janet Tweedy 03-02-2007 10:03 PM

Grow your own veg!
 
In article , Alan Holmes
writes

There is a programme currently on TV about growing your own veg and it is
claimed that a plot 3 metres (10 feet) square can provide you with veg all
years round.

Is that really possible?

Alan



Do you really think that programme is any good Alan, I found it silly
and frivolous. some good moments but generally a lot of faffing about
with the camera, with music and pictures of happy families digging in
their soil etc.
Didn't show putting up bean supports or pea supports. Not at all what I
was expecting ...........
I cannot believe that Carol Klein didn't realise that sowing seeds under
a magnolia tree wouldn't incur some drawbacks! She seemed surprised that
the roots had stopped her crops from growing full size !

One of those good ideas that have been hi jacked by the "meeja" types
again ... sigh

--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk

Mel 03-02-2007 11:20 PM

Grow your own veg!
 
"Janet Tweedy" wrote

There is a programme currently on TV about growing your own veg .


Do you really think that programme is any good Alan, I found it silly and
frivolous. Didn't show putting up bean supports or pea supports. Not at
all what I was expecting ...........


I agree. I was extremely disappointed because the programme taught me
nothing. I want to see a normal (non-celebrity), but experienced person
tackling an abandoned council allotment from scratch, and follow them
in-depth throughout the growing year. I want to see digging, tilling,
sowing, planting, putting up supports, shovelling manure, making compost
heaps, fighting potato blight and carrot flies. I don't want to see fancy
camera angles or the family pussy cat. I don't want the person to have a
team of volunteer diggers from the local horticultural college. I don't
want the person to have bucket-loads of money to buy lovely paths and raised
beds. I want the person to use stuff raided from skips, second-hand
barrels, and old bits of wood. Basically, I want to see a real person on a
real allotment doing real things.




Robert[_2_] 04-02-2007 08:29 AM

Grow your own veg!
 

"Mel" wrote in message
...
: "Janet Tweedy" wrote
:
: There is a programme currently on TV about growing your own veg .
:
: Do you really think that programme is any good Alan, I found it silly
and
: frivolous. Didn't show putting up bean supports or pea supports. Not at
: all what I was expecting ...........
:
: I agree. I was extremely disappointed because the programme taught me
: nothing. I want to see a normal (non-celebrity), but experienced person
: tackling an abandoned council allotment from scratch, and follow them
: in-depth throughout the growing year. I want to see digging, tilling,
: sowing, planting, putting up supports, shovelling manure, making compost
: heaps, fighting potato blight and carrot flies. I don't want to see fancy
: camera angles or the family pussy cat. I don't want the person to have a
: team of volunteer diggers from the local horticultural college. I don't
: want the person to have bucket-loads of money to buy lovely paths and
raised
: beds. I want the person to use stuff raided from skips, second-hand
: barrels, and old bits of wood. Basically, I want to see a real person on
a
: real allotment doing real things.
:
:You want to look out for a repeat of the 'Big Dig' that was a proper
gardening programme
:



George.com 04-02-2007 09:59 AM

Grow your own veg!
 

"Martin" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 4 Feb 2007 15:51:42 +0000, Chris ] wrote:

In article , George.com
writes

"Alan Holmes" wrote in message
...


There is a programme currently on TV about growing your own veg and it

is
claimed that a plot 3 metres (10 feet) square can provide you with veg

all
years round.
Is that really possible?


I have several garden wider than 1m and longer than 3 m (ie, each more

than
3m square).


There is a confusion here between:

3 metres square
and
3 square metres.

The former means a square of side 3 metres.
Such a square has an area of 9 square metres.


It's clear on the RHS website. It is also clear what they are growing.

"At RHS Garden Harlow Carr they set up a 3x3m (10x10ft) veg plot


ok, if it is 3m x 3m then that is different from a total garden area of 3m.
3 square metres is small, 3 square metres is altogether a better growing
size.

rob



JennyC 04-02-2007 10:25 AM

Grow your own veg!
 

"Mel" wrote in message
...
"Janet Tweedy" wrote

There is a programme currently on TV about growing your own veg .


Do you really think that programme is any good Alan, I found it silly and
frivolous. Didn't show putting up bean supports or pea supports. Not at
all what I was expecting ...........


I agree. I was extremely disappointed because the programme taught me
nothing. I want to see a normal (non-celebrity), but experienced person
tackling an abandoned council allotment from scratch, and follow them
in-depth throughout the growing year. I want to see digging, tilling,
sowing, planting, putting up supports, shovelling manure, making compost
heaps, fighting potato blight and carrot flies. I don't want to see fancy
camera angles or the family pussy cat. I don't want the person to have a
team of volunteer diggers from the local horticultural college. I don't
want the person to have bucket-loads of money to buy lovely paths and
raised beds. I want the person to use stuff raided from skips,
second-hand barrels, and old bits of wood. Basically, I want to see a
real person on a real allotment doing real things.


Bring back Bob Flowerdew ??
Jenny "~)



80/20 04-02-2007 10:49 AM

Grow your own veg!
 
On 4 Feb, 10:25, "JennyC" wrote:
"Mel" wrote in message

...





"Janet Tweedy" wrote


There is a programme currently on TV about growing your own veg .


Do you really think that programme is any good Alan, I found it silly and
frivolous. Didn't show putting up bean supports or pea supports. Not at
all what I was expecting ...........


I agree. I was extremely disappointed because the programme taught me
nothing. I want to see a normal (non-celebrity), but experienced person
tackling an abandoned council allotment from scratch, and follow them
in-depth throughout the growing year. I want to see digging, tilling,
sowing, planting, putting up supports, shovelling manure, making compost
heaps, fighting potato blight and carrot flies. I don't want to see fancy
camera angles or the family pussy cat. I don't want the person to have a
team of volunteer diggers from the local horticultural college. I don't
want the person to have bucket-loads of money to buy lovely paths and
raised beds. I want the person to use stuff raided from skips,
second-hand barrels, and old bits of wood. Basically, I want to see a
real person on a real allotment doing real things.


Bring back Bob Flowerdew ??
Jenny "~)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


They could do worse than re-editing some of Geoff Hamilton's pieces
and make those into half hour programs.
Steve


JennyC 04-02-2007 10:53 AM

Grow your own veg!
 

"80/20" wrote
"JennyC" wrote:

Bring back Bob Flowerdew ??
Jenny "~)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


They could do worse than re-editing some of Geoff Hamilton's pieces
and make those into half hour programs.
Steve


Hope the BBC is watching this "~))
Jenny



Broadback 04-02-2007 11:13 AM

Grow your own veg!
 
George.com wrote:
"Alan Holmes" wrote in message
...
There is a programme currently on TV about growing your own veg and it is
claimed that a plot 3 metres (10 feet) square can provide you with veg all
years round.

Is that really possible?

Alan


and what about the stuff that dies, do you stop eating for a month waiting
for replacements to grow? What about crop rotation, companion planting etc.
It takes a while for new gardeners to catch on to skills around rotation,
inter cropping and the like. What if you put down a crop of potatos, where
else do you plant whilst they grow?

I have several garden wider than 1m and longer than 3 m (ie, each more than
3m square). 1 is 2/3 full of potatos, which take months to grow, and 1/3
with peas which mildew has just got. Another is 2/3 full of tomato plants
(which blight is having a merry time with) and the rest of the area broccoli
and beetroot. If the tomatos follow the peas I am supposed to stop eating
veges for a while.

If you are new to gardening unless you constantly watch for disease and
pests the crop may go west, by the time you figure out what the disease is
it is to late.

Only way I can see it working really successfully is if you resort to things
like green leaf veges like lettuce, carrots and continually plant, keep the
soil working 365 days, keep things growing with artificial fertilisers, use
sprays and buy young plants from a nursery ready propogated on an ongoing
basis.

rob


I admit to watching it and finding it better that the garden "hardware"
programmes we had. One plus is at least it shows failures, knock it
though you may, most programmes show only unrealistic super crops. I
quite like CQ, however I found her very repetitive smacking her lips
over salad crops!

JennyC 04-02-2007 11:42 AM

Grow your own veg!
 

"Broadback" wrote

I admit to watching it and finding it better that the garden "hardware"

programmes we had. One plus is at least it shows failures, knock it though
you may, most programmes show only unrealistic super crops. I quite like
CQ, however I found her very repetitive smacking her lips over salad
crops!


The smacking of the lips is probably a result of wanting to make clear how
delicious it all is. Trying to get taste across on screen is hard, and she
does indeed overdo it a bit.

I must say I do like the music thought!!
Jenny



June Hughes 04-02-2007 11:57 AM

Grow your own veg!
 
In message , JennyC
writes

"Mel" wrote in message
...
"Janet Tweedy" wrote

There is a programme currently on TV about growing your own veg .


Do you really think that programme is any good Alan, I found it silly and
frivolous. Didn't show putting up bean supports or pea supports. Not at
all what I was expecting ...........


I agree. I was extremely disappointed because the programme taught me
nothing. I want to see a normal (non-celebrity), but experienced person
tackling an abandoned council allotment from scratch, and follow them
in-depth throughout the growing year. I want to see digging, tilling,
sowing, planting, putting up supports, shovelling manure, making compost
heaps, fighting potato blight and carrot flies. I don't want to see fancy
camera angles or the family pussy cat. I don't want the person to have a
team of volunteer diggers from the local horticultural college. I don't
want the person to have bucket-loads of money to buy lovely paths and
raised beds. I want the person to use stuff raided from skips,
second-hand barrels, and old bits of wood. Basically, I want to see a
real person on a real allotment doing real things.


Bring back Bob Flowerdew ??

I thought he was still on Gardeners' Question Time? Much more
interesting than some of the stuff they call 'gardening' on the TV.
--
June Hughes

JennyC 04-02-2007 12:07 PM

Grow your own veg!
 

"June Hughes" wrote JennyC
writes
Bring back Bob Flowerdew ??
I thought he was still on Gardeners' Question Time? Much more interesting
than some of the stuff they call 'gardening' on the TV.
--
June Hughes


Yep http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/gqt/panel/index.shtml
Jenny



Alan Holmes 04-02-2007 01:34 PM

Grow your own veg!
 

"Janet Tweedy" wrote in message
...
In article , Alan Holmes
writes

There is a programme currently on TV about growing your own veg and it is
claimed that a plot 3 metres (10 feet) square can provide you with veg all
years round.

Is that really possible?

Alan



Do you really think that programme is any good Alan, I found it silly and
frivolous. some good moments but generally a lot of faffing about with the
camera, with music and pictures of happy families digging in their soil
etc.


I don't think it is any good either, but I just HAD to watch it, just in
case there was someting interesting, fool that I am!

Didn't show putting up bean supports or pea supports. Not at all what I
was expecting ...........


I was expecting more as well!

I cannot believe that Carol Klein didn't realise that sowing seeds under a
magnolia tree wouldn't incur some drawbacks! She seemed surprised that the
roots had stopped her crops from growing full size !


I couldn't undersatnd that bit either, I would not have planted anything
that close to any tree

One of those good ideas that have been hi jacked by the "meeja" types
again ... sigh

--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk




Chris[_3_] 04-02-2007 03:51 PM

Grow your own veg!
 
In article , George.com
writes

"Alan Holmes" wrote in message
...


There is a programme currently on TV about growing your own veg and it is
claimed that a plot 3 metres (10 feet) square can provide you with veg all
years round.
Is that really possible?


I have several garden wider than 1m and longer than 3 m (ie, each more than
3m square).


There is a confusion here between:

3 metres square
and
3 square metres.

The former means a square of side 3 metres.
Such a square has an area of 9 square metres.

--
Chris

La Puce 04-02-2007 05:34 PM

Grow your own veg!
 
On 4 Feb, 12:07, "JennyC" wrote:
Yephttp://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/gqt/panel/index.shtml


He is lovely isn't it :o)) The other day I got gobsmacked by the
findings that the lotus flower was related to the Plane tree. A DNA
thing. This programme is wonderful. No need for tv, you can just
imagine the images in your mind ....


Andy 04-02-2007 05:50 PM

Grow your own veg!
 

"Alan Holmes" wrote in message
...

"Janet Tweedy" wrote in message
...
In article , Alan Holmes
writes

There is a programme currently on TV about growing your own veg and it is
claimed that a plot 3 metres (10 feet) square can provide you with veg
all
years round.

Is that really possible?

Alan



Do you really think that programme is any good Alan, I found it silly and
frivolous. some good moments but generally a lot of faffing about with
the camera, with music and pictures of happy families digging in their
soil etc.


I don't think it is any good either, but I just HAD to watch it, just in
case there was someting interesting, fool that I am!

Didn't show putting up bean supports or pea supports. Not at all what I
was expecting ...........


I was expecting more as well!

I cannot believe that Carol Klein didn't realise that sowing seeds under
a magnolia tree wouldn't incur some drawbacks! She seemed surprised that
the roots had stopped her crops from growing full size !


I couldn't undersatnd that bit either, I would not have planted anything
that close to any tree

One of those good ideas that have been hi jacked by the "meeja" types
again ... sigh

It's a 'lifestyle' programme, made to look good and suck the wannabe
gardener's in. Not much cop for the serious gardener, but it hits its mark.
Hence all the shots of children climbing trees, robins eating out of hands,
rural veg gardens and the grainy out of focus 8mm cine film linking shots.
The occasional music is well chosen too. Good-looking, arty, feel-good
stuff, and well done IMO for its intended target. Better sticking to Monty
Don or what have you for the more serious stuff.

Andy.



JennyC 04-02-2007 07:38 PM

Grow your own veg!
 

"Andy" wrote It's a 'lifestyle' programme, made
to look good and suck the wannabe
gardener's in. Not much cop for the serious gardener, but it hits its
mark. Hence all the shots of children climbing trees, robins eating out of
hands, rural veg gardens and the grainy out of focus 8mm cine film linking
shots. The occasional music is well chosen too. Good-looking, arty,
feel-good stuff, and well done IMO for its intended target. Better
sticking to Monty Don or what have you for the more serious stuff.
Andy.


I agree that it's not very 'in depth' info but there are a lot of things I
like about the prog:
Carol gives one hope that not all ladies of a 'certain age' are grumpy....
Her enthusiasm is catching
Wrinkles can look OK
I love the music - find myself remembering stuff I'd forgotten ....
The robin is sweet - wish mine was as tame

It actually makes me want to grow my own
Jenny




La Puce 04-02-2007 09:19 PM

Grow your own veg!
 
On 4 Feb, 19:38, "JennyC" wrote:
I agree that it's not very 'in depth' info but there are a lot of things I
like about the prog:
Carol gives one hope that not all ladies of a 'certain age' are grumpy....
Her enthusiasm is catching
Wrinkles can look OK
I love the music - find myself remembering stuff I'd forgotten ....
The robin is sweet - wish mine was as tame
It actually makes me want to grow my own


Be a 'serious gardener' Jenny. You cannot grow robins.


Pam Moore 04-02-2007 09:38 PM

Grow your own veg!
 
On Sun, 4 Feb 2007 20:38:29 +0100, "JennyC"
wrote:

I agree that it's not very 'in depth' info but there are a lot of things I
like about the prog:
Carol gives one hope that not all ladies of a 'certain age' are grumpy....
Her enthusiasm is catching
Wrinkles can look OK
I love the music - find myself remembering stuff I'd forgotten ....
The robin is sweet - wish mine was as tame

It actually makes me want to grow my own
Jenny


Jenny, I agree with you. Carol K's enthusiasm and obvious enjoyment
give inspiration, and hopefully people who have never before tried to
grow veg will give it a try.
It's not all success. They show the problems, like the cabbage-white
etc.
I'm really enjoying the series.


Pam in Bristol

Alan Holmes 05-02-2007 12:06 AM

Grow your own veg!
 

"Martin" wrote in message
...
On 4 Feb 2007 13:19:18 -0800, "La Puce" wrote:

On 4 Feb, 19:38, "JennyC" wrote:

snip
The robin is sweet - wish mine was as tame
It actually makes me want to grow my own


Be a 'serious gardener' Jenny. You cannot grow robins.


You beat me to it, Puce. She could always buy a bird box.


That is a typically idiotic post from LaPuke

--

Martin




Janet Tweedy 05-02-2007 12:37 AM

Grow your own veg!
 
In article , Mel
writes
I agree. I was extremely disappointed because the programme taught me
nothing. I want to see a normal (non-celebrity), but experienced person
tackling an abandoned council allotment from scratch, and follow them
in-depth throughout the growing year.


Do you see the programme "Allotment" on, It's on Discovery Real Time
extra Mondays at 6.30pm
It's very hands on and shows all sorts of allotments and even flower
growing plus shows and general gardening tips. The presenters clearly
love growing vegetables and they don't prattle on too much, they even
have their own allotments.. Last week they were showing huge vegetables
but made the point that taste was important! I think tomorrow night's
episode must be about no.15.

Janet
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk

Stan The Man 05-02-2007 12:51 AM

Grow your own veg!
 
In article , JennyC
wrote:

"Andy" wrote It's a 'lifestyle' programme, made
to look good and suck the wannabe
gardener's in. Not much cop for the serious gardener, but it hits its
mark. Hence all the shots of children climbing trees, robins eating out of
hands, rural veg gardens and the grainy out of focus 8mm cine film linking
shots. The occasional music is well chosen too. Good-looking, arty,
feel-good stuff, and well done IMO for its intended target. Better
sticking to Monty Don or what have you for the more serious stuff.
Andy.


I agree that it's not very 'in depth' info but there are a lot of things I
like about the prog:
Carol gives one hope that not all ladies of a 'certain age' are grumpy....
Her enthusiasm is catching
Wrinkles can look OK
I love the music - find myself remembering stuff I'd forgotten ....
The robin is sweet - wish mine was as tame

It actually makes me want to grow my own


It's honest, engaging, sensual and emotional and absolutely hits its
mark imho. It's a pity that a few of the hortisnobs around here have to
let us know how superior their knowledge is, as if that's some kind of
valid critique.

JennyC 05-02-2007 05:40 AM

Grow your own veg!
 

"La Puce" wrote in message
oups.com...
On 4 Feb, 19:38, "JennyC" wrote:
I agree that it's not very 'in depth' info but there are a lot of things
I
like about the prog:
Carol gives one hope that not all ladies of a 'certain age' are
grumpy....
Her enthusiasm is catching
Wrinkles can look OK
I love the music - find myself remembering stuff I'd forgotten ....
The robin is sweet - wish mine was as tame
It actually makes me want to grow my own


Be a 'serious gardener' Jenny. You cannot grow robins.


Damn, another illusion bites the dust :~)
Jenny



La Puce 05-02-2007 11:14 AM

Grow your own veg!
 
On 5 Feb, 00:51, Stan The Man wrote:
It's honest, engaging, sensual and emotional and absolutely hits its
mark imho. It's a pity that a few of the hortisnobs around here have to
let us know how superior their knowledge is, as if that's some kind of
valid critique


And it's frustrating. I just cannot find my Cat Steven's album .... ;o)


La Puce 05-02-2007 01:33 PM

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On 5 Feb, 13:25, Martin wrote:
Didn't you heat it with granny's hair drier and turn it into an oh so
fashionable vinyl flower pot 20 years ago?


On a roll aren't we Martin. Don't underestimate my power of creativity
blink blink nudge nudge


La Puce 05-02-2007 02:31 PM

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On 5 Feb, 14:08, Martin wrote:
Artisan broodje kaas, Puce?


Hmmm... you might go too fast there, but no, not yet. Wait till I get
me goat.

In my rummage I still haven't found Mr Steven's Lp but found Nitin
Sawhney Beyond Skin. My ... I had forgotten how good this record
was :o)


La Puce 05-02-2007 03:14 PM

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On 5 Feb, 15:05, Martin wrote:
Artisan broodje geitenkaas?


Ja. BAaaaahhhhh....


JennyC 05-02-2007 03:58 PM

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"Martin" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 5 Feb 2007 06:40:28 +0100, "JennyC"
wrote:


"La Puce" wrote in message
groups.com...
On 4 Feb, 19:38, "JennyC" wrote:
I agree that it's not very 'in depth' info but there are a lot of
things
I
like about the prog:
Carol gives one hope that not all ladies of a 'certain age' are
grumpy....
Her enthusiasm is catching
Wrinkles can look OK
I love the music - find myself remembering stuff I'd forgotten ....
The robin is sweet - wish mine was as tame
It actually makes me want to grow my own

Be a 'serious gardener' Jenny. You cannot grow robins.


Damn, another illusion bites the dust :~)


Have you thought of growing tits?
Of course you haven't.
Martin


With this weather they'd be blue ones ;~)
Jenny



JennyC 05-02-2007 04:00 PM

Grow your own veg!
 

"Martin" wrote in message
...
On 5 Feb 2007 03:14:03 -0800, "La Puce" wrote:

On 5 Feb, 00:51, Stan The Man wrote:
It's honest, engaging, sensual and emotional and absolutely hits its
mark imho. It's a pity that a few of the hortisnobs around here have to
let us know how superior their knowledge is, as if that's some kind of
valid critique


And it's frustrating. I just cannot find my Cat Steven's album .... ;o)


Didn't you heat it with granny's hair drier and turn it into an oh so
fashionable vinyl flower pot 20 years ago?
Martin


there is a new 'shop' here in r'dam selling recycled stuff made into other
things.... they have fruit bowls (LPs) pen holders (singles) for sale ....
Jenny :~)



La Puce 05-02-2007 04:09 PM

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On 5 Feb, 16:00, "JennyC" wrote:
there is a new 'shop' here in r'dam selling recycled stuff made into other
things.... they have fruit bowls (LPs) pen holders (singles) for sale ....


You ought to tell them what they really are for Jenny.


gavin 05-02-2007 08:15 PM

Grow your own veg!
 

"Alan Holmes" wrote in message
...

There is a programme currently on TV about growing your own veg and it is
claimed that a plot 3 metres (10 feet) square can provide you with veg all
years round.

Is that really possible?


I can't proffer an opinion on that but I did see the repeat tonight and
appreciated the soundtrack - ELP, Sparks et al. Oh and I thought the
programme was quite good :-)



JennyC 05-02-2007 09:37 PM

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"Martin" wrote
I should have said great tits.
http://images.google.co.uk/images?sv...t+tits&spell=1
Martin


We had two long tailed ones in the garden yesterday..............
http://images.google.co.uk/images?sv...tit%22&spell=1
Jenny



Alan Holmes 05-02-2007 10:37 PM

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"Martin" wrote in message
...
On 5 Feb 2007 06:31:49 -0800, "La Puce" wrote:

On 5 Feb, 14:08, Martin wrote:
Artisan broodje kaas, Puce?


Hmmm... you might go too fast there, but no, not yet. Wait till I get
me goat.


Artisan broodje geitenkaas?


Makes you want to Puke!

--

Martin




Alan Holmes 05-02-2007 10:38 PM

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"JennyC" wrote in message
...

"Martin" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 5 Feb 2007 06:40:28 +0100, "JennyC"
wrote:


"La Puce" wrote in message
egroups.com...
On 4 Feb, 19:38, "JennyC" wrote:
I agree that it's not very 'in depth' info but there are a lot of
things
I
like about the prog:
Carol gives one hope that not all ladies of a 'certain age' are
grumpy....
Her enthusiasm is catching
Wrinkles can look OK
I love the music - find myself remembering stuff I'd forgotten ....
The robin is sweet - wish mine was as tame
It actually makes me want to grow my own

Be a 'serious gardener' Jenny. You cannot grow robins.

Damn, another illusion bites the dust :~)


Have you thought of growing tits?
Of course you haven't.
Martin


With this weather they'd be blue ones ;~)


I daren't expose mine!

Alan



Alan Holmes 05-02-2007 10:39 PM

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"Martin" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 5 Feb 2007 16:58:45 +0100, "JennyC"
wrote:


"Martin" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 5 Feb 2007 06:40:28 +0100, "JennyC"
wrote:


"La Puce" wrote in message
legroups.com...
On 4 Feb, 19:38, "JennyC" wrote:
I agree that it's not very 'in depth' info but there are a lot of
things
I
like about the prog:
Carol gives one hope that not all ladies of a 'certain age' are
grumpy....
Her enthusiasm is catching
Wrinkles can look OK
I love the music - find myself remembering stuff I'd forgotten ....
The robin is sweet - wish mine was as tame
It actually makes me want to grow my own

Be a 'serious gardener' Jenny. You cannot grow robins.

Damn, another illusion bites the dust :~)

Have you thought of growing tits?
Of course you haven't.
Martin


With this weather they'd be blue ones ;~)


That thought had occurred to me :-)

I should have said great tits.


I still wouldn't want to expose them!

Alan



Janet Tweedy 06-02-2007 03:53 PM

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In article , Stan The Man
writes

It's honest, engaging, sensual and emotional and absolutely hits its
mark imho. It's a pity that a few of the hortisnobs around here have to
let us know how superior their knowledge is, as if that's some kind of
valid critique.



What a shame you are confusing being keen on plants only with someone
caring that the media might actually show people who want to learn
about vegetable growing, the necessary information without resorting to
75% of a programme being given over to incidental music and 'lifestyle
shots'
If you' watched The allotment you'd seen what I mean. There they do show
how to grow plants but in a down to earth way, and they actually show
HOW to put up the supports etc and how to overcome problems.

The BBC programme didn't show how to erect runner bean supports etc.

If they wanted to appeal to those people who have never touched a seed
packet or tried gardening then why on earth put it on BBC2 on a Friday
night? Why not put it on main stream BBC1 about 7pm? The Friday night
slot has always been seen as the part of the week where you get as near
to a gardening programme as they will allow. You aren't going to get the
majority of TV views turning over for the programme unless they actually
want to learn or are interested.

RTE television could make superb programmes to taught everyone whether
beginner or experienced gardener and yet did it without 'artistic' shots
or mood music:)


Janet
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk

La Puce 06-02-2007 05:31 PM

Grow your own veg!
 
On 6 Feb, 15:53, Janet Tweedy wrote:
What a shame you are confusing being keen on plants only with someone
caring that the media might actually show people who want to learn
about vegetable growing, the necessary information without resorting to
75% of a programme being given over to incidental music and 'lifestyle
shots'
If you' watched The allotment you'd seen what I mean. There they do show
how to grow plants but in a down to earth way, and they actually show
HOW to put up the supports etc and how to overcome problems.
The BBC programme didn't show how to erect runner bean supports etc.


But don't you know already?! I have the strange feeling that the
people who do know best are the most critical of this programme. If I
wanted to go through hours of fruit bushes pruning advices, filmed in
the 60s, and so boring that it kept sending my whole class to sleep, I
would consult the hundreds upon hundreds of videos available!

And what are the problems that Carol came across that wasn't
explained? The leeks preping was clear to me, the soil preping for the
pumpkins too, as well as the winter salad crop and the taste, the
TASTE!! It's simply marvelous that for once we get a bit of everything
into a programme. I'm sure Titmarsh and Don are on their way for
another series soon, but until then, doesn't this programme make you
eager to start?! It did to me ... can't wait end of Feb. And Carol's
friend first garden is honest and true to life - something I have seen
hundreds of time in my life but never on tv before. It's indeed about
time we were to be shown for whom we really are and not for what we're
not. This thread has all the airs and graces of Mrs Bucket.

RTE television could make superb programmes to taught everyone whether
beginner or experienced gardener and yet did it without 'artistic' shots
or mood music:)


Surely they couldn't have taught the experienced gardeners ... And
I've watch lots of these videos at college and ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz....
Oops sorry, they were indeed very fascinating ;o)


sam 06-02-2007 07:12 PM

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Alan Holmes wrote:
There is a programme currently on TV about growing your own veg and it is
claimed that a plot 3 metres (10 feet) square can provide you with veg all
years round.

Is that really possible?

Alan


No slug damage ! Not a slug in the place !! Whaa..aattt!!
After all the rain we,ve had! What planet are they on?
The prog was all style and no substance.
What our own 'Plotty' thought of it I shudder to think.
The Beeb would have done much better televising his own
excellent videos.
Sam.

La Puce 09-02-2007 05:12 PM

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On 4 Feb, 19:38, "JennyC" wrote:

The robin is sweet - wish mine was as tame


Another chance for you to learn how to tame your robin tonight ;o)

Check this - I've been getting the emails about 'grow your own' since
the first programme, and there's lot of stuff from the RHS and videos
too, for those more inclined on digging deeper.

http://www.rhs.org.uk/vegetables/techniques.asp
http://www.rhs.org.uk/vegetables/crops/brassicas.asp
http://www.rhs.org.uk/vegetables/




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