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""There has been a noticeable active interest in gardening in the United
Kingdom over the last 10 - 15 years"" Given the above statement, is this due to a) The flood of Gardening programmes on Television or b) The increase of Garden Centres such as B & Q where shopping for the garden has been made easier for the first time and more inexperienced gardener? Discuss Mike -- .................................................. ......... Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association www.rnshipmates.co.uk www.nsrafa.com |
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"'Mike'" wrote in message ... ""There has been a noticeable active interest in gardening in the United Kingdom over the last 10 - 15 years"" Given the above statement, is this due to a) The flood of Gardening programmes on Television or b) The increase of Garden Centres such as B & Q where shopping for the garden has been made easier for the first time and more inexperienced gardener? Discuss Mike -- .................................................. ........ Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association www.rnshipmates.co.uk www.nsrafa.com Discuss Discuss makes you cringe doesn't it |
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On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 17:47:40 -0000, "Dave" wrote:
"'Mike'" wrote in message ... ""There has been a noticeable active interest in gardening in the United Kingdom over the last 10 - 15 years"" Given the above statement, is this due to a) The flood of Gardening programmes on Television or b) The increase of Garden Centres such as B & Q where shopping for the garden has been made easier for the first time and more inexperienced gardener? Discuss Mike -- .................................................. ........ Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association www.rnshipmates.co.uk www.nsrafa.com Discuss Discuss makes you cringe doesn't it If that makes you cringe, you should see his photographs! |
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On 2 Mar, 07:38, "'Mike'" wrote:
""There has been a noticeable active interest in gardening in the United Kingdom over the last 10 - 15 years"" Given the above statement, is this due to a) The flood of Gardening programmes on Television or b) The increase of Garden Centres such as B & Q where shopping for the garden has been made easier for the first time and more inexperienced gardener? c) A return to our roots (cultural needs), the want to grow our grubs, environmental issues, health issues, this land is our land etc.... Just returned from London, Chelsea school of design for a one day workshop on garden design (offered to me by KLC plus 30 quids to spend on books on Amazon). It's part of my diploma but the workshop was also open to everybody. We were around 20, from retired teachers, a laywer (still young 15 years into her profession), lots doing the same course as me, 2 ladies which had been given the course as a present, most wanting a change of careers and a handful wanting to do their own garden. It seems to me that there is also a wish to pass on their experiences in gardening - all were gardeners, design is secondary. And that can only be a good thing. What also struck me is that there was in another class lots of foreigners, particularly some young French students who cannot find such courses in France. England seems to be leading a move towards garden design and more to the point the quality in teaching is excellent. I thoroughly enjoyed myself and met some fantastic people - some with whom I'll keep in touch and certainly will work with. PS. There was however a Portugese woman who had never heard about compost ... |
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"'Mike'" wrote in message ... ""There has been a noticeable active interest in gardening in the United Kingdom over the last 10 - 15 years"" There's been an active interest in gardening in the UK for a LOT longer than 15 years!!!!!! Neil. |
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On 2 Mar, 23:37, "Neil Tonks" wrote:
There's been an active interest in gardening in the UK for a LOT longer than 15 years!!!!!! I think what Mike means is that with the increase in population, the needs to build more housing, the change in our cities, the huge redevelopments of our inner cities and the awareness of our environment, in the food we eat, its provenance and its ethics, in the way we live and bring our kids up, means that gardening has taken a new role in our lives, and that in every part of our society, not only for those with acres of land/gardens, or in leafy suburbs. Combine this with the change in our planning policies, the rise of housing prices, education, transport, the aspiration to have a bit of land to cultivate, to be in touch with nature has contributed to the rise of gardening programmes on tv and access to resources for all via gardening centres sprouting up everywhere and not only for a minority of people, not only for one class of people. The rat race, the stuffy office life many leads and the increasing pressures of work have contributed to the creation of giving more choices to people - to reconsider the way they live, the way they work, and given them the choice to change careers and spend their time outside these pressures, bringing with them their knowledge of business, hence the 'garden business' that has increased in the last 15 years. |
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"Neil Tonks" wrote in message ... "'Mike'" wrote in message ... ""There has been a noticeable active interest in gardening in the United Kingdom over the last 10 - 15 years"" There's been an active interest in gardening in the UK for a LOT longer than 15 years!!!!!! I would have thought that it needed at least one extra '0'! Alan Neil. |
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On 3/3/07 21:17, in article , "Alan
Holmes" wrote: "Neil Tonks" wrote in message ... "'Mike'" wrote in message ... ""There has been a noticeable active interest in gardening in the United Kingdom over the last 10 - 15 years"" There's been an active interest in gardening in the UK for a LOT longer than 15 years!!!!!! I would have thought that it needed at least one extra '0'! You're all answering a well known and long term troll. Why fall for it? Stop, read, think! Do you *really* think that gardeners on a seriously involved gardening group fall for this garbage? Some members of urg have be gardening for 50 years, or more. This person is not contributing to the sum of urg's knowledge. He sucks in new responses by this form of post and by his own admission he knows nothing about gardening. Please do not encourage this person. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ (remove weeds from address) |
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On 3 Mar, 23:08, Sacha wrote:
You're all answering a well known and long term troll. Why fall for it? Stop, read, think! Do you *really* think that gardeners on a seriously involved gardening group fall for this garbage? Some members of urg have be gardening for 50 years, or more. Do you know everybody here? I don't think Mike talks garbage at all. The way he has started the thread is perhaps a bit blunt, for use of a better word, but the issue is something to think about. It is someting we are all talking about at the moment. In the real world that is. Do you now dictate who we should talk to and who we should read or for that matter shouldn't? On what authority do you control a usenet group? This person is not contributing to the sum of urg's knowledge. He sucks in new responses by this form of post and by his own admission he knows nothing about gardening. Please do not encourage this person. You have known Mike for years - some of us haven't. So far I have seen a man who is in constant querel with you - the reasons are numerous but that doesn't mean he is a troll. This means that he is holding you on a lot of issues. Basically you have issues with this man, issues with many other people in here and I would suggest you stop dictating others what they should or shouldn't do. People are quite capable of making their own judgements. By pointing the fingers at people you don't approve, for reasons only known to you, you are disrupting people abilities to think for themselves, doubt many, killfile on the basis that indeed he/she must be a troll because you don't like them. Really you ought to chill out. |
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On 4 Mar, 15:21, Sacha wrote:
You cannot imagine how glad I am to see you write this. "Like calls unto like". You think what you want Sacha. Your bitterness for anything that you dim to be not worth your elevated status (deluded more like) is plain to see. I will not go into a row with you again because I don't feel like pleasing your ego and again talk about you and yours. You are so boring and dull, it's beyond beleif. I think I've probed you enough to determine how you think and proceed and find what kind of woman you really are. I'm satisfied to see that you're quite deranged actually and reassuringly enough, I'm not the only one who think this. Clearly, from the urg.meet thread, you have managed to show your true colours. Indeed, like calls unto like. I'd rather stab my foot with my garden fork than bow at your feet like your 5 mignons cluching a plug plant from you. |
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On 4/3/07 16:20, in article
, "La Puce" wrote: On 4 Mar, 15:21, Sacha wrote: You cannot imagine how glad I am to see you write this. "Like calls unto like". You think what you want Sacha. Your bitterness for anything that you dim to be not worth your elevated status (deluded more like) is plain to see. snip Well now, let's see. Since your last foaming at the mouth outburst, I have ignored you entirely. The decision to use my daughters to have a dig at me was yours and yours alone and it remains so. I have said and done nothing to you to encourage that. So - you will take the consequences. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ (remove weeds from address) |
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On 4 Mar, 16:52, Sacha wrote:
Well now, let's see. Since your last foaming at the mouth outburst, I have ignored you entirely. The decision to use my daughters to have a dig at me was yours and yours alone and it remains so. I have said and done nothing to you to encourage that. So - you will take the consequences. You're a vicious horrible woman. You've posted that your kids had ancestors who had owned land. What do I care if they do or don't. If they do I've suggested it would be nice to help the allotments in questions. You took it the wrong way again. It shows your disturbed and twisted mind. You're so ugly, if I was you I would have just ignored it. But no. Now you're going to destroy me or something like this. You're barmy. |
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On 4/3/07 17:05, in article
, "La Puce" wrote: On 4 Mar, 16:52, Sacha wrote: Well now, let's see. Since your last foaming at the mouth outburst, I have ignored you entirely. The decision to use my daughters to have a dig at me was yours and yours alone and it remains so. I have said and done nothing to you to encourage that. So - you will take the consequences. You're a vicious horrible woman. You've posted that your kids had ancestors who had owned land. What do I care if they do or don't. If they do I've suggested it would be nice to help the allotments in questions. You took it the wrong way again. It shows your disturbed and twisted mind. You're so ugly, if I was you I would have just ignored it. But no. Now you're going to destroy me or something like this. You're barmy. No Mrs Rudlin, née Delguel, formerly of Ecole St. Marthe, Perigueux (pic attached to your entry). I did not post that my 'kids' had ancestors who owned land. I said *one* ancestor gave some land for allotments. Barmy is someone who drives to another's house just to be photographed outside it and post the photo on the Internet. That photo is going to URBED, Helene and your MP - perhaps in fact, the police, too. Stalking and harassment are crimes. Barmy is someone who looks up all the groups someone else posts to but uses just one to bolster her cockeyed argument. Barmy is someone who looks at another person's wish list on Amazon when it has nothing to do with them. That's barmy. Have you any idea at all what a mad, obsessive thing that is to do? Or is this so normal for you that you don't see how barmy you are? Barmy is someone who uses my children to hurt me. That is the last straw and a very, very big mistake on your part. Just huge. Shall I get your children's names from the Census and post them here with birthdates etc.? Shall I find photos of them and post links to them here? I have your marriage date to David J Rudlin so all else is the work of mere minutes. We'll let your husband's employers, the public, via your MP, find out whether his secretary wife is barmy and whether she is mis-using one million pounds of public money whiling away her publicly-funded time conducting vendettas on the internet. URBED London may have sent a letter to your husband telling him that your use of the term 'my London office' is undesirable for all of your interests but clearly they have not brought home to you with sufficient vigour, that pursuing others around the Internet is equally undesirable for you and for URBED. I daresay they will now. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ (remove weeds from address) |
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On 4 Mar, 17:32, Sacha wrote:
No Mrs Rudlin, née Delguel, formerly of Ecole St. Marthe, Perigueux (pic attached to your entry). I did not post that my 'kids' had ancestors who owned land. I said *one* ancestor gave some land for allotments. Sick. You're sick! Shall I get your children's names from the Census and post them here with birthdates etc.? Shall I find photos of them and post links to them here? I have your marriage date to David J Rudlin so all else is the work of mere minutes. I don't threaten you. But you are clearly threatening me to do this. Your ISP is now aware of this. My god! What have I done for such a reaction from you?!! You're totally mad! I will never ever reply to you ever. You're a frightening woman!! |
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On 4/3/07 17:43, in article
, "La Puce" wrote: On 4 Mar, 17:32, Sacha wrote: No Mrs Rudlin, née Delguel, formerly of Ecole St. Marthe, Perigueux (pic attached to your entry). I did not post that my 'kids' had ancestors who owned land. I said *one* ancestor gave some land for allotments. Sick. You're sick! Shall I get your children's names from the Census and post them here with birthdates etc.? Shall I find photos of them and post links to them here? I have your marriage date to David J Rudlin so all else is the work of mere minutes. I don't threaten you. But you are clearly threatening me to do this. Your ISP is now aware of this. My god! What have I done for such a reaction from you?!! You're totally mad! I will never ever reply to you ever. You're a frightening woman!! You use my children and you'll find out what frightening is. Frightening is ALL your trustees hearing from me, plus your MP and anyone who is giving or getting money to or from URBED Manchester. You mess with my family and you'll get everything legal that comes your way. Good idea re the ISP - I'll gather up all your posts, the swearing ones, the insulting ones, the threatening ones and send them on to your ISP and URBED's, too. And what is more, Helene, I will enlist the assistance of every single person here who has suffered at your hands. You have NO idea of what you have aroused in me by using my children. But by God you're going to find out. You 'just Googled' to find out about me! Why? If you mean me and mine no harm, why bother? You're an ill-intentioned distortion of a woman and I'm going to put a halt in your gallop. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ (remove weeds from address) |
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On 4 Mar, 17:59, Sacha wrote:
You use my children and you'll find out what frightening is. But you've posted details of them. You've posted a link of the last meet with pictures of your house and the nursery of your husband. You're for ever posting details to your house from every route imaginable. You've just posted about the 6th birthday of your grand daughter. You've posted about the christening of the other grand daughter. You tell us when you go on holidays, when you come back, what you eat, smells and feel. You tell us every details imaginable. In fact we cannot turn on urg without knowing about Sacha Hubbard's life. You just don't stop posting stuff and details. Your signatures has all the details of your house, your work place, the name of your son, your husband etc... We don't need to google for you. You're there, plastered on this forum for all to admire. Don't threaten my own kids and my husband and my work place and my colleagues. They have nothing to do with this. This is simply unfair and terribly vicious but then not surprising. |
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On 4/3/07 18:07, in article
, "La Puce" wrote: On 4 Mar, 17:59, Sacha wrote: You use my children and you'll find out what frightening is. But you've posted details of them. You've posted a link of the last meet with pictures of your house and the nursery of your husband. You're for ever posting details to your house from every route imaginable. You've just posted about the 6th birthday of your grand daughter. You've posted about the christening of the other grand daughter. You tell us when you go on holidays, when you come back, what you eat, smells and feel. You tell us every details imaginable. In fact we cannot turn on urg without knowing about Sacha Hubbard's life. You just don't stop posting stuff and details. Your signatures has all the details of your house, your work place, the name of your son, your husband etc... We don't need to google for you. You're there, plastered on this forum for all to admire. Don't threaten my own kids and my husband and my work place and my colleagues. They have nothing to do with this. This is simply unfair and terribly vicious but then not surprising. Nothing I have *ever* posted here has assisted you to do that 'lady daughter' thing over my children. That was one BIG mistake on your part. All of us, including you talk about our families at times without naming names. You've talked often of yours; you've talked about your holidays in France and Cornwall; you've asked me for information on holiday accommodation involving dates; you've told us you were booked into the Minack Theatre; you've told us you were off to Scotland on the big red bus; you've told us you never knew your mother; you've told us your family come from Perigueux and been quite explicit about that; you've posted a photo of yourself outside my home on the internet; you've insulted me, sworn at me, called me derogatory names and insulted me on the grounds of my age, gender and appearance. You've insulted my husband's business and have suggested incompetence on his part. I do assure you that all this is archived and copied and will give my solicitor plenty of material to work on with regard to your intentions towards me on this group. It's to be hoped that when my solicitor asks to examine your computer - home and office, of course - there is no correspondence on either of them between you and the person who brought my children into your ambit. You are making capital out of the fact that someone dragged my children in here, names and all - every detail. Don't play the 'innocent act' with me, it's worn out. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ (remove weeds from address) |
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On 4 Mar, 18:55, Sacha wrote:
Nothing I have *ever* posted here has assisted you to do that 'lady daughter' thing over my children. It's all over the place Sacha. Here just a few of them. You started talking about your kids ancestors. I deducted very quickly. You are the fool not me. http://www.gardenbanter.co.uk/showth...=109458&page=6 in article , Michael Rhodes at wrote on 2/5/03 1:37 pm: (Grrarrggh) wrote in message ... Who are the daughters of aristocrats and royals born in the years 1975, 1976, 1977, 1978? Thanks. Tam Some ladies enjoying courtesy titles born between 1st Jan. 1975 & 31 Dec 1978. Note: Has Helen Villiers, daughter of the late Viscount Villiers and sister of the Earl fo Jersey, yet to be raised to the rank of the daughter of an earl as is the custom ? If not, then she remains the Hon Helen Villiers. snip That's Helen Child Villiers. She, her sister and her half-sister are now all The Lady. Sacha |
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On 4/3/07 19:13, in article
, "La Puce" wrote: On 4 Mar, 18:55, Sacha wrote: Nothing I have *ever* posted here has assisted you to do that 'lady daughter' thing over my children. It's all over the place Sacha. Here just a few of them. You started talking about your kids ancestors. I deducted very quickly. You are the fool not me. http://www.gardenbanter.co.uk/showth...=109458&page=6 in article , Michael Rhodes at wrote on 2/5/03 1:37 pm: (Grrarrggh) wrote in message ... Who are the daughters of aristocrats and royals born in the years 1975, 1976, 1977, 1978? Thanks. Tam Some ladies enjoying courtesy titles born between 1st Jan. 1975 & 31 Dec 1978. Note: Has Helen Villiers, daughter of the late Viscount Villiers and sister of the Earl fo Jersey, yet to be raised to the rank of the daughter of an earl as is the custom ? If not, then she remains the Hon Helen Villiers. snip That's Helen Child Villiers. She, her sister and her half-sister are now all The Lady. Sacha Please show me where that occurred in urg's archives. Fool. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ (remove weeds from address) |
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"Sacha" wrote in message . uk... On 3/3/07 21:17, in article , "Alan Holmes" wrote: "Neil Tonks" wrote in message ... "'Mike'" wrote in message ... ""There has been a noticeable active interest in gardening in the United Kingdom over the last 10 - 15 years"" There's been an active interest in gardening in the UK for a LOT longer than 15 years!!!!!! I would have thought that it needed at least one extra '0'! You're all answering a well known and long term troll. Why fall for it? Stop, read, think! Do you *really* think that gardeners on a seriously involved gardening group fall for this garbage? Some members of urg have be gardening for 50 years, or more. This person is not contributing to the sum of urg's knowledge. He sucks in new responses by this form of post and by his own admission he knows nothing about gardening. Please do not encourage this person. Sorry, I should have read who had posted the original article! Alan |
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"Sacha" wrote in message . uk... On 4/3/07 12:10, in article , "La Puce" wrote: On 3 Mar, 23:08, Sacha wrote: You're all answering a well known and long term troll. Why fall for it? Stop, read, think! Do you *really* think that gardeners on a seriously involved gardening group fall for this garbage? Some members of urg have be gardening for 50 years, or more. Do you know everybody here? I don't think Mike talks garbage at all. snip You cannot imagine how glad I am to see you write this. "Like calls unto like". And there you are, replying to La Puke! Alan |
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Don't threaten ........ my work place and my colleagues. They have nothing to do with this. But you did this to Judith, so what makes the difference here? -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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On 8 Mar, 00:40, Janet Tweedy wrote:
But you did this to Judith, so what makes the difference here? OK. Just for you Janet - just one last time. If I get further criticisms, further orders from anybody regarding this matter, I will simply ignore it. I'm taking this time to answer you, because you have asked me and to give my side of the story and I will leave it at that. Because I had mentioned that Judith was spending a long time on her computer at her place of work, (after being told I had rotten teeth, my clothe where dirty, that she had seen me in Scotland, my organisation etc.) she got upset that I had mentioned her workplace. Fair enough. That was my intention indeed, to shut her up. But she rang my office twice asking to speak to my husband, which is extremely strange. Did she honestly expected I'd put her, a stranger, on the phone to him? She then wrote to my colleague in London (she published the letters here) thinking they were my employers, which they're not and with this she tried to make me loose my job, which she cannot. After my colleague rang me to ask me what was going on, I was terribly ambarassed, he forwarded me her email too and it was terrible because she had added the bit that Sacha had written about the French translation of 'stupid' which I still concider as 'stupid' and nothing else but which wasn't, according to Sacha and Judith. Many francophone indeed agreed with me on urg. But this didn't make any difference. I saw red and you would have as well. I admire my colleague, I value my 20 years relationship with him. I felt she had gone too far. I also don't take orders from strangers, I do not let myself being walked over in this way. I might appear dizzy, which I am, I make mistake, I'm just human. I just couldn't beleive the incredible liberty with which she rang my office, sent me emails, wrote to my colleagues etc. It was too much and I reciprocated. The only difference is that I really didn't think I'd be successful, I never ever sink so low as to do something like this, but in retrospect I don't regret any second of it because it has stopped her emails, her letters to my colleague (they simply ignore her) and stopped her phone calls. We've heard over and over again here not to do to others what you don't want to be done to you. And that is what happened. I would be furious if I was her. I really would. I didn't mean it to come to this - but what is done is done. Nobody has indeed the right to pursue someone to their workplace, trying to reach their husband, trying to undermind relationships with someone else's colleagues, criticise what they look like. But if the 'stalking' aspect of this started with me dropping to Sacha's nursery on my way back from Cornwall, I was stalked to Scotland whilst doing a community consultation. How else would they have seen me with my long hair, my long coat, my multitude of scarfes. We were freezing and I was very tired. I had spent 3 days outdoors talking to hundreds of people. So she must have came to Scotland to see me - how else she would have known? She even posted the fact here! And that is very scary indeed. This combine with the fact that I know for a fact that someone has asked others via email to killfile me as resulted in me finding myself in a 'troll' position and that hurts me immensely. But what do you want me to do? If someone is found to be replying to me and getting very friendly, they get the same treatment. Look at Jenny, look at Uncle, even Martin got it a couple of days ago. The best thing is to just ignore anyone telling you to killfile him/her, jump on the dispute waggon and keep to the subject at hand which is gardening. This is usenet - and as much as I would like to give you further informations which I'm sure would put you even more in my shoes, I just cannot without once again giving too many personnal info out to be used to yet again further ammunitions. I think I've spoken enough about myself. I hope this clarify your question. I value your posts, I value everydoby's posts for that matter, always, though as any other human being, I do get a pang when I get put down unecessarily on the back of someone else's post to me. If we do not have the time to read through all the bumph that is being posted here, then one surely should just keep to posts that are relevant to them, and keep their noses out of somebody else's querels. |
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On 8 Mar, 00:40, Janet Tweedy wrote: But you did this to Judith, so what makes the difference here? OK. Just for you Janet - just one last time. If I get further criticisms, further orders from anybody regarding this matter, I will simply ignore it. Now that would be a first for you! I'm taking this time to answer you, because you have asked me and to give my side of the story and I will leave it at that. No, she did not ask you to give your side of the story. She made what is known as rhetorical statement. Because I had mentioned that Judith was spending a long time on her computer at her place of work, No, you accused her of USING her work computer to make posts to urg. But you did more than this didn't you? You complained to Judith's employers and they then had to use scarce public funds doing an investigation of Judith's computer use. They found out that your complaints were completely false. You are malicious and a waster of tax money that each and every Brit pays. They should sue the arse off you for your time wasting and maliciousness. (after being told I had rotten teeth, my clothe where dirty, that she had seen me in Scotland, my organisation etc.) she got upset that I had mentioned her workplace. Fair enough. That was my intention indeed, to shut her up. Yes, you do like to control people. But she rang my office twice asking to speak to my husband, That is what YOU claim Judith did, whereas Judith has denied it. Given that you have repeatedly been caught out lying here from one post to the next or claiming that you have been misunderstood or giving some other implausible excuse for your errors and lies whilst Judith has not, you are not credible in making such claims. I believe Judith and not you as will everyone who has an ounce of common sense and can read. which is extremely strange. Did she honestly expected I'd put her, a stranger, on the phone to him? Even if Judith had rung (which I and most others but your idiot eggers on don't believe) I have no doubt that you love to control who talks to your husband and who doesn't. She then wrote to my colleague in London (she published the letters here) Yes and they found out the truth about you didn't they? thinking they were my employers, which they're not and with this she tried to make me loose my job, which she cannot. No but someone should. You give URBED a vile reputation. After my colleague rang me to ask me what was going on, I was terribly ambarassed, he forwarded me her email too and it was terrible because she had added the bit that Sacha had written about the French translation of 'stupid' which I still concider as 'stupid' and nothing else but which wasn't, according to Sacha and Judith. Many francophone indeed agreed with me on urg. But this didn't make any difference. I saw red and you would have as well. I admire my colleague, I value my 20 years relationship with him. I'll bet he's now realised your real worth to the organisation too. I felt she had gone too far. I also don't take orders from strangers, No, that much is obvious. But then most of us know that it is mere common human decency to avoid trying to maliciously hurt others by lying or making false statments or exposing details of their children to those who have no need to know. You aren't restricted by such things as mere common human decency. I do not let myself being walked over in this way. I might appear dizzy, which I am, I make mistake, I'm just human. You make huge mistakes but I doubt that is because you are human. I don't see you as being human in any way shape or form. I just couldn't beleive the incredible liberty with which she rang my office, sent me emails, wrote to my colleagues etc. It was too much and I reciprocated. Liberty? What barefaced garbage! You lied about her actions and her computer usage. You made false accusations against her to her employer. You cost taxpayers money by making those false accusations. You tried to get her sacked. You didn't reciprocate you sad piece of work, you initiated! What's more, you were found out for being a malicious liar and a troublemaker. The only difference is that I really didn't think I'd be successful, I never ever sink so low as to do something like this, God how do you live with yourself? Most people have some capacity for guilt when caught out lying and being malicious but not you. You just act the pathetic, wee, hard done by thing and hope that some sad sack like your eggers on will actually believe your lies! Your gall knows no bounds! but in retrospect I don't regret any second of it No. Malicious troublemakers such as yourself don't give a thuppenny bit for the wasting of tax payer's money or being caught out making false accusations. They just content themselves with lying to themsleves and continuing to lie to others at every given opportunity. I would be furious if I was her. I really would. I didn't mean it to come to this - but what is done is done. Nobody has indeed the right to pursue someone to their workplace, Excuse me while I clean up the spew on my keyboard! You are such a hypocrite giving this mealy mouthed justification for you own vile actions. YOU made false accustions to Judith's employer and YOU were caught out as a result of that lie. At least the London office of URBED now know that you are a nasty piece of work. You must be happy though that your husband hasn't yet twigged that you lie like a pig in mud. trying to reach their husband, trying to undermind relationships with someone else's colleagues, criticise what they look like. But if the 'stalking' aspect of this started with me dropping to Sacha's nursery on my way back from Cornwall, I was stalked to Scotland whilst doing a community consultation. How else would they have seen me with my long hair, my long coat, my multitude of scarfes. We were freezing and I was very tired. I had spent 3 days outdoors talking to hundreds of people. So she must have came to Scotland to see me - how else she would have known? She even posted the fact here! And that is very scary indeed. Oh yes, of course. Dear itty bitty, vulnerable you just happened to drop by (unannounced) to Sacha's nursery to have your photo taken outside whereupon your dear sweet wee sanitised Manchester teenager's suddenly got a fit of the wobblies and didn't want to meet that "nasty woman" (such sweet mouthed wee Manchester teenagers! Where di you hire these paragons?) whilst nasty Judith MUST have stalked you to Scotland. What absolute crap! The only one who has engaged in either stalking or threats or malicious action here is you. Grow up or at least try to get a grip on reality! Don't you realise that we can all read, that we can all remember what you write from one post to the next, that your nasty lies, your flirtations with the dirty old men of the group, your agist, sexist, foul mouthed comments and justifications and attempts at nasty anonymous net stalking are archived? You really are both stupid and self deluded. And you leave tracks a mile wide. When someone does finally take legal action against you, you have left tracks a mile wide. Your poor deluded husband and URBED are going to be in for a big surprise aren't they? You may be able to continue to lie to yourself but once this gets to a court or some sort of mediation if such a thing is available in the UK, your arse will be well and truly fried. And deservedly so. You may be able to lie to yourself and sucker your husband and the dirty old men of this group into thinking you are a sweet, vulnerable morsel but others involved in any legal forum look at facts. The facts are that you take action to deliberately attempt to damage others. That can be proven in what you tried to do with Judith. That can be proven by the trail of posting you have left all over the internet full of threats and inconsistencies of story as and when you are yet again caught out in a lie. You have no crediblity but that doesn't stop you. What a shocker you are. I feel sorry for your husband and children as they will suddenly find themselves in a very nasty situation. It's only a matter of time given your intemperate and self deluding behaviour. This combine with the fact that I know for a fact that someone has asked others via email to killfile me as resulted in me finding myself in a 'troll' position and that hurts me immensely. Well given the extraordinary efforts you have gone to to hurt others both here and other news groups that is quite satisfying. I hope that before you are finished your nasty little snivelling life, you receive far greater hurt than you have tried to give so maliciously to others. But what do you want me to do? If someone is found to be replying to me and getting very friendly, they get the same treatment. Look at Jenny, look at Uncle, even Martin got it a couple of days ago. The best thing is to just ignore anyone telling you to killfile him/her, jump on the dispute waggon and keep to the subject at hand which is gardening. More mealy mouthed twaddle. If you ever stuck to gardening and took time off from your flirtation with Uncle and others you might actually learn something about gardening rather than making the howlers of mistakes that you do. I hope this clarify your question. I value your posts, I value everydoby's posts for that matter, always, though as any other human being, I do get a pang when I get put down unecessarily on the back of someone else's post to me. If we do not have the time to read through all the bumph that is being posted here, then one surely should just keep to posts that are relevant to them, and keep their noses out of somebody else's querels. Excuse me, I need to go and vomit again. |
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On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 23:54:57 +1100, "FarmI" ask@itshall be given
wrote: "La Puce" wrote in message On 8 Mar, 00:40, Janet Tweedy wrote: But you did this to Judith, so what makes the difference here? OK. Just for you Janet - just one last time. If I get further criticisms, further orders from anybody regarding this matter, I will simply ignore it. Now that would be a first for you! I'm taking this time to answer you, because you have asked me and to give my side of the story and I will leave it at that. No, she did not ask you to give your side of the story. She made what is known as rhetorical statement. Because I had mentioned that Judith was spending a long time on her computer at her place of work, No, you accused her of USING her work computer to make posts to urg. But you did more than this didn't you? You complained to Judith's employers and they then had to use scarce public funds doing an investigation of Judith's computer use. IF she was using her employees computers to post here, and troll, then that is bringing her employees into disrepute. Employers don't pay people to troll and netkop in their time. If I caught her doing it, I would complain too. People who live in glass houses, should not throw stones! snip bully boy vitriol -- Avoid the rush at the last judgement. Be converted now instead! Disclaimer Pete has taken all reasonable care to ensure that pages published by him were accurate on the date of publication or last modification. Other pages which may be linked or which Pete may have published are in a personal capacity. Pete takes no responsibility for the consequences of error or for any loss or damage suffered by users of any of the information published on any of these pages, and such information does not form any basis of a contract with readers or users of it. It is in the nature of Usenet & Web sites, that much of the information is experimental or constantly changing, that information published may be for test purposes only, may be out of date, or may be the personal opinion of the author. Readers should verify information gained from the Web/Usenet with the appropriate authorities before relying on it. Should you no longer wish to read this material or content, please use your newsreaders kill filter. |
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"Pete (.¿.)" wrote in message
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 23:54:57 +1100, "FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote: "La Puce" wrote in message On 8 Mar, 00:40, Janet Tweedy wrote: But you did this to Judith, so what makes the difference here? OK. Just for you Janet - just one last time. If I get further criticisms, further orders from anybody regarding this matter, I will simply ignore it. Because I had mentioned that Judith was spending a long time on her computer at her place of work, No, you accused her of USING her work computer to make posts to urg. But you did more than this didn't you? You complained to Judith's employers and they then had to use scarce public funds doing an investigation of Judith's computer use. IF she was using her employees computers to post here, and troll, then that is bringing her employees into disrepute. Employers don't pay people to troll and netkop in their time. If I caught her doing it, I would complain too. Thank you so much for so promptly confirming my suspicion that you were either a troll, one of Puce's sock puppets or one of her gullible eggers on. |
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On 8 Mar, 13:58, "FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
Thank you so much for so promptly confirming my suspicion that you were either a troll, one of Puce's sock puppets or one of her gullible eggers on It's nice to be liked. You should try it :o) |
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On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 00:58:01 +1100, "FarmI" ask@itshall be given
wrote: "Pete (.¿.)" wrote in message On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 23:54:57 +1100, "FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote: "La Puce" wrote in message On 8 Mar, 00:40, Janet Tweedy wrote: But you did this to Judith, so what makes the difference here? OK. Just for you Janet - just one last time. If I get further criticisms, further orders from anybody regarding this matter, I will simply ignore it. Because I had mentioned that Judith was spending a long time on her computer at her place of work, No, you accused her of USING her work computer to make posts to urg. But you did more than this didn't you? You complained to Judith's employers and they then had to use scarce public funds doing an investigation of Judith's computer use. IF she was using her employees computers to post here, and troll, then that is bringing her employees into disrepute. Employers don't pay people to troll and netkop in their time. If I caught her doing it, I would complain too. Thank you so much for so promptly confirming my suspicion that you were either a troll, one of Puce's sock puppets or one of her gullible eggers on. Truth hurts does it bully boy? -- Avoid the rush at the last judgement. Be converted now instead! Disclaimer Pete has taken all reasonable care to ensure that pages published by him were accurate on the date of publication or last modification. Other pages which may be linked or which Pete may have published are in a personal capacity. Pete takes no responsibility for the consequences of error or for any loss or damage suffered by users of any of the information published on any of these pages, and such information does not form any basis of a contract with readers or users of it. It is in the nature of Usenet & Web sites, that much of the information is experimental or constantly changing, that information published may be for test purposes only, may be out of date, or may be the personal opinion of the author. Readers should verify information gained from the Web/Usenet with the appropriate authorities before relying on it. Should you no longer wish to read this material or content, please use your newsreaders kill filter. |
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"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message ... "La Puce" wrote in message On 8 Mar, 00:40, Janet Tweedy wrote: But you did this to Judith, so what makes the difference here? OK. Just for you Janet - just one last time. If I get further criticisms, further orders from anybody regarding this matter, I will simply ignore it. Now that would be a first for you! Stuff deleted:- Excuse me, I need to go and vomit again. It would be better for your health if you did not respond to the Puke, she only makes you puke! Put her in your killfile, like I did! Alan |
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"Anne Jackson" wrote in message ... The message from "La Puce" contains these words: On 8 Mar, 13:58, "FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote: Thank you so much for so promptly confirming my suspicion that you were either a troll, one of Puce's sock puppets or one of her gullible eggers on It's nice to be liked. You should try it :o) Nice people are liked, without actually TRYING..but you wouldn't know that, would you? Please, please, please, Anne, I have La Puke in my killfile so I do not have to read her rubbish, and there you are responding to one of her posts, so I have to read it anyway! Naughty, naughty. Alan |
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"Alan Holmes" wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message "La Puce" wrote in message On 8 Mar, 00:40, Janet Tweedy wrote: But you did this to Judith, so what makes the difference here? OK. Just for you Janet - just one last time. If I get further criticisms, further orders from anybody regarding this matter, I will simply ignore it. Now that would be a first for you! Stuff deleted:- Excuse me, I need to go and vomit again. It would be better for your health if you did not respond to the Puke, she only makes you puke! She makes most people puke, and especially the people she so consistently lies about and slanders. The woman has no sense of decency. Put her in your killfile, like I did! All very well in theory and I did drop the lying hussy in my killfile for a while but since her latest lot of lies about Judith and her usual self deluded justifications for her malicious false accusations, I've come around to Sacha's way of thinking. Someone has to try to keep the manipulative loon truthful - sorry, I know that she will never willingly be truthful, so I'll rephrase it. Someone has to try to call her on her repeated lies and attempts to wiggle out of her noxious attempts to deceive and to get even the most basic of facts wrong. |
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