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Securing Gate to concrete fence post.
Hi,
In a couple of weeks im erecting a fence and will be needing to mount a gate from my end post - a concrete one. I was thinking of fixing a plinth of wood to the edge of the post but what method is best for doing this as im aware the posts have steel rods inside for strength. Thanks |
Securing Gate to concrete fence post.
wrote in message oups.com... Hi, In a couple of weeks im erecting a fence and will be needing to mount a gate from my end post - a concrete one. I was thinking of fixing a plinth of wood to the edge of the post but what method is best for doing this as im aware the posts have steel rods inside for strength. Most concrete posts also have holes through them for straining wires or bolts to go through. Can you use any of them? If not, drilling through them is possible but not easy, and can make a right mess of the post. Don't ask me how I know :-(( Steve |
Securing Gate to concrete fence post.
wrote in message oups.com... Hi, In a couple of weeks im erecting a fence and will be needing to mount a gate from my end post - a concrete one. I was thinking of fixing a plinth of wood to the edge of the post but what method is best for doing this as im aware the posts have steel rods inside for strength. Thanks Will the concrete post have holes in it for a wire strainer? If so, fix an angle iron via the strainer wire OR enlarge the holes and fix with bolts and fix a timber to this. I have had to do this on my concrete garage. No problem in enlarging a hole as the steel wires will be clear of the holes. A Masonry drill will be required and enlarge to hole slowly, i.e., don't push the drill hard, let the drill do the work. Hope this helps. Mike -- .................................................. .............. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association. 'THE' Association if you served in the Electrical Branch of the Royal Navy www.rneba.org.uk |
Securing Gate to concrete fence post.
Im told there isnt any holes in the concrete posts when they are
delivered. I was unsure about just using a wooden post as it seemed a waste when the rest would be concrete. Is it unfeasable to drill fresh holes, possibly using a drill bit for metal if any rods are hit whilst drilling? Many thanks for the replys |
Securing Gate to concrete fence post.
Im told there isnt any holes in the concrete posts when they are
delivered. I was unsure about just using a wooden post as it seemed a waste when the rest would be concrete. Is it unfeasable to drill fresh holes, possibly using a drill bit for metal if any rods are hit whilst drilling? Many thanks for the replys |
Securing Gate to concrete fence post.
wrote in message ups.com... Im told there isnt any holes in the concrete posts when they are delivered. I was unsure about just using a wooden post as it seemed a waste when the rest would be concrete. Is it unfeasable to drill fresh holes, possibly using a drill bit for metal if any rods are hit whilst drilling? Many thanks for the replys Yes it is possible to drill holes in the concrete and to put a metal drill through the metal when you come to it and then to continue with the Masonry drill. I would put a very small drill through first, say a 6mm then open to a larger. Have you drilled concrete before? Tricky project as a first if not. You 'could' shatter the post :-(( as you need a hammer action for the concrete but not the metal! If you are on the Isle of Wight I will come and do it for you :-)) Mike -- .................................................. .............. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association. 'THE' Association if you served in the Electrical Branch of the Royal Navy www.rneba.org.uk |
Securing Gate to concrete fence post.
On Mar 14, 8:51 pm, "'Mike'" wrote:
wrote in message ups.com... Im told there isnt any holes in the concrete posts when they are delivered. I was unsure about just using a wooden post as it seemed a waste when the rest would be concrete. Is it unfeasable to drill fresh holes, possibly using a drill bit for metal if any rods are hit whilst drilling? Many thanks for the replys Yes it is possible to drill holes in the concrete and to put a metal drill through the metal when you come to it and then to continue with the Masonry drill. I would put a very small drill through first, say a 6mm then open to a larger. Have you drilled concrete before? Tricky project as a first if not. You 'could' shatter the post :-(( as you need a hammer action for the concrete but not the metal! If you are on the Isle of Wight I will come and do it for you :-)) Mike -- .................................................. ............. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association. 'THE' Association if you served in the Electrical Branch of the Royal Navywww.rneba.org.uk Many thanks for the offer, im unfortunatly from the Derbyshire. Im pretty handy with a drill but never drilled concrete. I was thinking along the same lines, small drill bit very steadily then widen of once done. Are there special fixings for this rather than rawl plugs. I vaguely remember seeing metal versions, possibly rawl bolts? Thanks again |
Securing Gate to concrete fence post.
On 14 Mar 2007 15:27:43 -0700, "
wrote: On Mar 14, 8:51 pm, "'Mike'" wrote: wrote in message ups.com... Im told there isnt any holes in the concrete posts when they are delivered. I was unsure about just using a wooden post as it seemed a waste when the rest would be concrete. Is it unfeasable to drill fresh holes, possibly using a drill bit for metal if any rods are hit whilst drilling? Many thanks for the replys Yes it is possible to drill holes in the concrete and to put a metal drill through the metal when you come to it and then to continue with the Masonry drill. I would put a very small drill through first, say a 6mm then open to a larger. Have you drilled concrete before? Tricky project as a first if not. You 'could' shatter the post :-(( as you need a hammer action for the concrete but not the metal! If you are on the Isle of Wight I will come and do it for you :-)) Mike -- .................................................. ............. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association. 'THE' Association if you served in the Electrical Branch of the Royal Navywww.rneba.org.uk Many thanks for the offer, im unfortunatly from the Derbyshire. Im pretty handy with a drill but never drilled concrete. I was thinking along the same lines, small drill bit very steadily then widen of once done. Are there special fixings for this rather than rawl plugs. I vaguely remember seeing metal versions, possibly rawl bolts? Thanks again I really wouldn't recommend trying to drill it. You will find it very difficult without hammer action, and with hammer action you could shatter it. Also if your drill cuts through the steel you will weaken the post, and the exposed rod will quickly rust and split the post. Much better to order the correct post. |
Securing Gate to concrete fence post.
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[...] Im pretty handy with a drill but never drilled concrete. I was thinking along the same lines, small drill bit very steadily then widen of once done. Are there special fixings for this rather than rawl plugs. I vaguely remember seeing metal versions, possibly rawl bolts? This is alarming! You can't hang a gate like that: you need holes going right through the post, so you can put a threaded fitting through and tighten down a nut on the other side. -- Mike. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Securing Gate to concrete fence post.
wrote in message ups.com... On Mar 14, 8:51 pm, "'Mike'" wrote: wrote in message ups.com... Im told there isnt any holes in the concrete posts when they are delivered. I was unsure about just using a wooden post as it seemed a waste when the rest would be concrete. Is it unfeasable to drill fresh holes, possibly using a drill bit for metal if any rods are hit whilst drilling? Many thanks for the replys Yes it is possible to drill holes in the concrete and to put a metal drill through the metal when you come to it and then to continue with the Masonry drill. I would put a very small drill through first, say a 6mm then open to a larger. Have you drilled concrete before? Tricky project as a first if not. You 'could' shatter the post :-(( as you need a hammer action for the concrete but not the metal! If you are on the Isle of Wight I will come and do it for you :-)) Mike -- .................................................. ............. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association. 'THE' Association if you served in the Electrical Branch of the Royal Navywww.rneba.org.uk Many thanks for the offer, im unfortunatly from the Derbyshire. Im pretty handy with a drill but never drilled concrete. I was thinking along the same lines, small drill bit very steadily then widen of once done. Are there special fixings for this rather than rawl plugs. I vaguely remember seeing metal versions, possibly rawl bolts? Thanks again As others have already suggested, see if you can change to post with ones with holes in, even small ones which can be enlarged. HOWEVER under NO circumstances use a Rawlbolt. These work on an expanding and gripping action and as sure night follows day you will split the post and shatter it. Drill right through and bolt right through. Use large washers to spread the load of the nut as well. Known in the Engineering trade as 'Penny Washers' because of their size, or get a piece of steel plate cut. Mike -- .................................................. .............. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association. 'THE' Association if you served in the Electrical Branch of the Royal Navy www.rneba.org.uk |
Securing Gate to concrete fence post.
"Mike Lyle" wrote in message news:45f869bd$0$16364 I'd change the order, pronto, to get posts with holes. I see no merit in unholed ones even for intermediate positions, let alone gateposts. You can drill them, but I really wouldn't recommend it if there's an alternative. -- Mike. Never mind all this hole drilling - I would suggest clamp around brackets. Regards Pete www.thecanalshop.com |
Securing Gate to concrete fence post.
On Mar 14, 11:53 pm, "Pete Stockdale"
wrote: "Mike Lyle" wrote in message news:45f869bd$0$16364 I'd change the order, pronto, to get posts with holes. I see no merit in unholed ones even for intermediate positions, let alone gateposts. You can drill them, but I really wouldn't recommend it if there's an alternative. -- Mike. Never mind all this hole drilling - I would suggest clamp around brackets. Regards Petewww.thecanalshop.com thanks for all your help. Will enquire about pre-drilled posts and the brackets mentioned. |
Securing Gate to concrete fence post.
On 14 Mar, 07:26, " wrote:
Hi, In a couple of weeks im erecting a fence and will be needing to mount a gate from my end post - a concrete one. I was thinking of fixing a plinth of wood to the edge of the post but what method is best for doing this as im aware the posts have steel rods inside for strength. My solution was to buy some 5mm thick, 30mm wide steel bar from the nearest farm shop, and cold form it to go round 3 sides of the post and stick out a bit. I then cut a timber wedge to correct the taper of the post, the same width as the post, and screwed the sticking-out ends of the metal straps to the two sides of the timber wedge. The taper of the post, and the weight of the gate keeps it all in place. I rubbed the steel up bright, and then painted with the special primer and smooth hamerite before fitting. I greased the screws, and then cleaned off around the heads, grease filled the slots, and painted over them |
Securing Gate to concrete fence post.
Do not use wooden posts, they will only last 5 years or so.
Drill holes along the vetical centre line, into the concrete, as there are normally 4 steel rods that go down the 4 corners. I have just done 2 seperate jobs, each with gates on. In all cases do not hang the gate on the post if you can help it. 1st job - Concreted well in a concrete post, then fixed a wooden post infront of it (not concreted in), by using long 180mm x 6mm csk screws, screwed in thro the holes in the concrete post, from the back face where the panels slot in. Then used the wood post to fix the correct wood battening to it. If you have the right sized wood you circular saw out the rebate for the gate. 2nd job - Used the concrete post inner edge as the slamming part of the gate, added an additional wooden battening to the edge of the panel to fix the gate latch etc. OK this was not ment to be a very secure gate, but it served its purpose. |
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