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I bought this plant last year at a local "Shed" it was un-named and
growing as a 24inch standard. http://www.twango.com/channel/Taffy4u2.unknown I thought it was a species fuchsia at first but now know it's not, Any ideas folks? David Hill Abacus Nurseries |
Unknown plant
Looking at those dark leaves, it is almost certainly Cestrum elegans
'Scarlet Cluster'. A very nice variety and moderately hardy out of doors in milder regions of the south. It can develop into a pretty large shrub in time - well over 3m. high and across. As a greenhouse/ conservatory shrub, it lends itself well to container culture and can be hard-pruned in autumn or spring if it gets out of hand. It also makes an excellent 'patio plant' in regions where it cannot be kept outside permanently. A sunny spot and regular feeding will ensure almost continuous flowering. |
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On 14 Mar, 19:25, Sacha wrote:
On 14/3/07 19:10, in article om, "Dave Hill" wrote: I bought this plant last year at a local "Shed" it was un-named and growing as a 24inch standard. http://www.twango.com/channel/Taffy4u2.unknown I thought it was a species fuchsia at first but now know it's not, Any ideas folks? David Hill Abacus Nurseries At a guess, a Cestrum, possibly Cestrum elegans or maybe C. fasciculatum? -- Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devonhttp://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ (remove weeds from address) Thanks Sacha, I would never have thought it would be Cestrum, the tightly packed flowers and the hairy stems and leaves are so different to the Cestrum that I have. Looking on Google there is so much variation in C. elegans it's hard to believe. I have also learned that Cestrum is a Solanaceae, this is a family that I seem to be getting quite a good collection of. One interesting one is PEPINO DULCE (Solanum muricatum Ait.) this is grown in New Zeland as a commercial crop, and is worth investigating. http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/pepino.html David Hill Abacus Nurseries |
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On 14/3/07 20:53, in article
, "Dave Hill" wrote: On 14 Mar, 19:25, Sacha wrote: On 14/3/07 19:10, in article om, "Dave Hill" wrote: I bought this plant last year at a local "Shed" it was un-named and growing as a 24inch standard. http://www.twango.com/channel/Taffy4u2.unknown I thought it was a species fuchsia at first but now know it's not, Any ideas folks? David Hill Abacus Nurseries At a guess, a Cestrum, possibly Cestrum elegans or maybe C. fasciculatum? Thanks Sacha, I would never have thought it would be Cestrum, the tightly packed flowers and the hairy stems and leaves are so different to the Cestrum that I have. It just rang a bell with me because we have a few Cestrums here. We grow C. Parquii in the garden and it's hardy here. I'd never registered the shape of the flowers just before they broke, or not consciously, but obviously somewhere in my brain they'd registered. Looking on Google there is so much variation in C. elegans it's hard to believe. Another instance of people 'grabbing' at an identity, do you think? I have also learned that Cestrum is a Solanaceae, this is a family that I seem to be getting quite a good collection of. One interesting one is PEPINO DULCE (Solanum muricatum Ait.) this is grown in New Zeland as a commercial crop, and is worth investigating. http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/pepino.html Like the look of that - does it translate as small sweet pepper? -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ (remove weeds from address) |
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On 14 Mar, 22:18, Sacha wrote:
On 14/3/07 20:53, in article . com, "Dave Hill" wrote: On 14 Mar, 19:25, Sacha wrote: On 14/3/07 19:10, in article om, "Dave Hill" wrote: I bought this plant last year at a local "Shed" it was un-named and growing as a 24inch standard. http://www.twango.com/channel/Taffy4u2.unknown I thought it was a species fuchsia at first but now know it's not, Any ideas folks? David Hill Abacus Nurseries At a guess, a Cestrum, possibly Cestrum elegans or maybe C. fasciculatum? Thanks Sacha, I would never have thought it would be Cestrum, the tightly packed flowers and the hairy stems and leaves are so different to the Cestrum that I have. It just rang a bell with me because we have a few Cestrums here. We grow C. Parquii in the garden and it's hardy here. I'd never registered the shape of the flowers just before they broke, or not consciously, but obviously somewhere in my brain they'd registered. Looking on Google there is so much variation in C. elegans it's hard to believe. Another instance of people 'grabbing' at an identity, do you think? I have also learned that Cestrum is a Solanaceae, this is a family that I seem to be getting quite a good collection of. One interesting one is PEPINO DULCE (Solanum muricatum Ait.) this is grown in New Zeland as a commercial crop, and is worth investigating. http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/pepino.html Like the look of that - does it translate as small sweet pepper? -- Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devonhttp://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ (remove weeds from address) Nothing like a pepper, it's a fruit in its own right, I am waiting for seed from America, the seed I had last year was expensive and poor quality, I got 6 plants all different, slow to ripen, but have come through the winter well, I will propagate and see if they crop differently in 2nd year. It's this 30 to 80 day ripening that gets me, I am looking for faster ripening than I had. That is why I wanted to get hold of New Zeland stock, but can't find a contact. I also have another Solanum which has put on 2 inches this last week, after dying back to the ground last year, lost it's name though. David Hill Abacus Nurseries |
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On 14/3/07 23:15, in article
, "Dave Hill" wrote: On 14 Mar, 22:18, Sacha wrote: On 14/3/07 20:53, in article snip One interesting one is PEPINO DULCE (Solanum muricatum Ait.) this is grown in New Zeland as a commercial crop, and is worth investigating. http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/pepino.html Like the look of that - does it translate as small sweet pepper? Nothing like a pepper, it's a fruit in its own right, I am waiting for seed from America, the seed I had last year was expensive and poor quality, I got 6 plants all different, slow to ripen, but have come through the winter well, I will propagate and see if they crop differently in 2nd year. It's this 30 to 80 day ripening that gets me, I am looking for faster ripening than I had. 30 to 80 days does sound as if it covers a lot of possibilities! That is why I wanted to get hold of New Zeland stock, but can't find a contact. I've got a thought about that and will see what I can do. But don't we have any NZ lurkers or readers here?! I also have another Solanum which has put on 2 inches this last week, after dying back to the ground last year, lost it's name though. There are quite a few. We have S. Crispum Glasnevin, S. Jaminoides aureovariegatum and S. jas. Album also S. rantonnettii which is really tender, though it does alright in places like Salcombe and the CIs. We sell very few of those because they need conservatories, really. Lovely plant, though! -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ (remove weeds from address) |
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"Sacha" wrote in message . uk... On 14/3/07 23:15, in article , "Dave Hill" wrote: On 14 Mar, 22:18, Sacha wrote: On 14/3/07 20:53, in article snip One interesting one is PEPINO DULCE (Solanum muricatum Ait.) this is grown in New Zeland as a commercial crop, and is worth investigating. http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/pepino.html Like the look of that - does it translate as small sweet pepper? Nothing like a pepper, it's a fruit in its own right, I am waiting for seed from America, the seed I had last year was expensive and poor quality, I got 6 plants all different, slow to ripen, but have come through the winter well, I will propagate and see if they crop differently in 2nd year. It's this 30 to 80 day ripening that gets me, I am looking for faster ripening than I had. 30 to 80 days does sound as if it covers a lot of possibilities! That is why I wanted to get hold of New Zeland stock, but can't find a contact. I've got a thought about that and will see what I can do. But don't we have any NZ lurkers or readers here?! I also have another Solanum which has put on 2 inches this last week, after dying back to the ground last year, lost it's name though. There are quite a few. We have S. Crispum Glasnevin, S. Jaminoides aureovariegatum and S. jas. Album also S. rantonnettii which is really tender, though it does alright in places like Salcombe and the CIs. We sell very few of those because they need conservatories, really. Lovely plant, though! -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ (remove weeds from address) I have just noticed some ripe seed on my Solanum pyrocanthum, I have enough for 4 people so the first 4 to email and book it can have it! (use the email address on the web site) picture at http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk/shrub...yrocanthum.jpg -- Charlie, gardening in Cornwall. http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk Holders of National Plant Collections of Clematis viticella (cvs) and Lapageria rosea |
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On 15 Mar, 09:12, Sacha wrote:
On 14/3/07 23:15, in article . com, "Dave Hill" wrote: On 14 Mar, 22:18, Sacha wrote: On 14/3/07 20:53, in article snip One interesting one is PEPINO DULCE (Solanum muricatum Ait.) this is grown in New Zeland as a commercial crop, and is worth investigating. http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/pepino.html Like the look of that - does it translate as small sweet pepper? Nothing like a pepper, it's a fruit in its own right, I am waiting for seed from America, the seed I had last year was expensive and poor quality, I got 6 plants all different, slow to ripen, but have come through the winter well, I will propagate and see if they crop differently in 2nd year. It's this 30 to 80 day ripening that gets me, I am looking for faster ripening than I had. 30 to 80 days does sound as if it covers a lot of possibilities! That is why I wanted to get hold of New Zeland stock, but can't find a contact. I've got a thought about that and will see what I can do. But don't we have any NZ lurkers or readers here?! I also have another Solanum which has put on 2 inches this last week, after dying back to the ground last year, lost it's name though. There are quite a few. We have S. Crispum Glasnevin, S. Jaminoides aureovariegatum and S. jas. Album also S. rantonnettii which is really tender, though it does alright in places like Salcombe and the CIs. We sell very few of those because they need conservatories, really. Lovely plant, though! -- Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devonhttp://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ (remove weeds from address) I think that this solanum is one of my favourites 4th pic in the set. http://www.twango.com/channel/Taffy4u2.public Also Have an interesting long leafed one I got out in Malta last year. David Hill Abacus Nurseries |
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On 15/3/07 11:38, in article
, "Dave Hill" wrote: On 15 Mar, 09:12, Sacha wrote: On 14/3/07 23:15, in article . com, "Dave Hill" wrote: On 14 Mar, 22:18, Sacha wrote: On 14/3/07 20:53, in article snip One interesting one is PEPINO DULCE (Solanum muricatum Ait.) this is grown in New Zeland as a commercial crop, and is worth investigating. http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/pepino.html Like the look of that - does it translate as small sweet pepper? Nothing like a pepper, it's a fruit in its own right, I am waiting for seed from America, the seed I had last year was expensive and poor quality, I got 6 plants all different, slow to ripen, but have come through the winter well, I will propagate and see if they crop differently in 2nd year. It's this 30 to 80 day ripening that gets me, I am looking for faster ripening than I had. 30 to 80 days does sound as if it covers a lot of possibilities! That is why I wanted to get hold of New Zeland stock, but can't find a contact. I've got a thought about that and will see what I can do. But don't we have any NZ lurkers or readers here?! I also have another Solanum which has put on 2 inches this last week, after dying back to the ground last year, lost it's name though. There are quite a few. We have S. Crispum Glasnevin, S. Jaminoides aureovariegatum and S. jas. Album also S. rantonnettii which is really tender, though it does alright in places like Salcombe and the CIs. We sell very few of those because they need conservatories, really. Lovely plant, though! -- Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devonhttp://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ (remove weeds from address) I think that this solanum is one of my favourites 4th pic in the set. http://www.twango.com/channel/Taffy4u2.public Yes, that's the S. rantonnettii - gorgeous colour. Also Have an interesting long leafed one I got out in Malta last year. Please put up a pic when you can. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ (remove weeds from address) |
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On 15 Mar, 14:08, Sacha wrote:
On 15/3/07 11:38, in article . com, "Dave Hill" wrote: On 15 Mar, 09:12, Sacha wrote: On 14/3/07 23:15, in article . com, "Dave Hill" wrote: On 14 Mar, 22:18, Sacha wrote: On 14/3/07 20:53, in article snip One interesting one is PEPINO DULCE (Solanum muricatum Ait.) this is grown in New Zeland as a commercial crop, and is worth investigating. http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/pepino.html Like the look of that - does it translate as small sweet pepper? Nothing like a pepper, it's a fruit in its own right, I am waiting for seed from America, the seed I had last year was expensive and poor quality, I got 6 plants all different, slow to ripen, but have come through the winter well, I will propagate and see if they crop differently in 2nd year. It's this 30 to 80 day ripening that gets me, I am looking for faster ripening than I had. 30 to 80 days does sound as if it covers a lot of possibilities! That is why I wanted to get hold of New Zeland stock, but can't find a contact. I've got a thought about that and will see what I can do. But don't we have any NZ lurkers or readers here?! I also have another Solanum which has put on 2 inches this last week, after dying back to the ground last year, lost it's name though. There are quite a few. We have S. Crispum Glasnevin, S. Jaminoides aureovariegatum and S. jas. Album also S. rantonnettii which is really tender, though it does alright in places like Salcombe and the CIs. We sell very few of those because they need conservatories, really. Lovely plant, though! -- Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devonhttp://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ (remove weeds from address) I think that this solanum is one of my favourites 4th pic in the set. http://www.twango.com/channel/Taffy4u2.public Yes, that's the S. rantonnettii - gorgeous colour. Also Have an interesting long leafed one I got out in Malta last year. Please put up a pic when you can. -- Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devonhttp://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ (remove weeds from address) Trying to post a picture of the Cestrum with the flowers fully open http://www.twango.com/share.aspx?cha...ffy4u2.Unknown David Hill Abacus Nurseries |
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On 23/3/07 19:18, in article
, "Dave Hill" wrote: snip Trying to post a picture of the Cestrum with the flowers fully open http://www.twango.com/share.aspx?cha...ffy4u2.Unknown Yes, got it and that's the one we have, too. Strange things other people want to share with the world, though! ;-) I must find the pic Ray took of 'your' Dahlia (excelsa?) and email it to you. He put a chair on top of a table to give some idea of its scale! -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ (remove weeds from address) |
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