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weedkiller concerns
On 26 Mar, 15:24, "Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\)"
wrote: "hazchem" wrote in message oups.com... Yesterday Croydon Council sub-contractors came and sprayed weedkiller outside my front door, on the paving slabs. This is despite my asking them not to and having a notice on the outside of my front door DO NOT SPRAY WEEDKILLER ANYWHERE NEAR THIS GARDEN. I am concerned about run- off when rain comes. I don't want weedkiller washing into my garden. There is a visible white residue where they sprayed. I don't want to put my pots on top of it. Today I got a reply via email, but I don't know if I should believe them or not.This is what they said:- "Sorry about the confusion regarding the spraying of the communal area with weedkiller. Please be assured that the chemical used becomes inert if it touches hard services or soil, it only has an effect on green tissue. Therefore it will be safe to place your pots back out, and it if rains or you wash off the chemical it will not damage your soil. Also it will have no adverse affect of the cat or anything the cat steps on or walks through." Does this make any sense at all? Which weedkiller could it be? There are no weeds on the paving slabs so it doesn't make any sense. It is too early in the year to be using glyphosate, I would think, and sodium chlorate would not become inert. I did ask them a year ago what the weedkiller was, but they never told me. I intend to ask them again, but first I wanted to hear what gardeners with experience of weedkillers think of what they have told me. Hazchem It does sound like glyphosate or a derivative. Quite effective on emerging weeds at this time of year. I would play safe for a few days and then carry on as normal. Best of luck with the council and let us know which weedkiller they were using.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Should not glyphosate be used to spot-treat weeds on paths or paving stones? Or sprayed onto areas of weed growing in soil? This was sprayed onto paving slabs where there were no weeds, not even seedlings, or moss. Why was there a white residue? Does glyphosate leave a white residue? I would think sodium chlorate does. I will ask for the name of the weedkiller, but I have no confidence I will get the truth. The council will ask the subcontractor and the subcontractor can say what they like. Even if it is their policy to use glyphosate, the workers may end up using a cheaper alternative. The fact that paths and paving slabs have been sprayed suggests it is not a contact weedkiller, no matter what the council think. What a waste of money. How much overtime does a worker have to be paid to come out on a Sunday? Spraying weedkiller in this way doesn't work anyway. There is a big patch of Japanese knotweed that they haven't touched. I can see where they have been by the residue (which is ugly) and they don't seem to have been constistent or thorough in what they have been doing. What an easy way to make some money. Just go in any wave a sprayer around, nobody comes to check up on what you have been doing. Its your tax that's paying for this. |
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weedkiller concerns
On Mar 27, 11:59 am, "hazchem" wrote:
On 26 Mar, 15:24, "Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\)" wrote: "hazchem" wrote in message roups.com... Yesterday Croydon Council sub-contractors came and sprayed weedkiller outside my front door, on the paving slabs. This is despite my asking them not to and having a notice on the outside of my front door DO NOT SPRAY WEEDKILLER ANYWHERE NEAR THIS GARDEN. I am concerned about run- off when rain comes. I don't want weedkiller washing into my garden. There is a visible white residue where they sprayed. I don't want to put my pots on top of it. Today I got a reply via email, but I don't know if I should believe them or not.This is what they said:- "Sorry about the confusion regarding the spraying of the communal area with weedkiller. Please be assured that the chemical used becomes inert if it touches hard services or soil, it only has an effect on green tissue. Therefore it will be safe to place your pots back out, and it if rains or you wash off the chemical it will not damage your soil. Also it will have no adverse affect of the cat or anything the cat steps on or walks through." Does this make any sense at all? Which weedkiller could it be? There are no weeds on the paving slabs so it doesn't make any sense. It is too early in the year to be using glyphosate, I would think, and sodium chlorate would not become inert. I did ask them a year ago what the weedkiller was, but they never told me. I intend to ask them again, but first I wanted to hear what gardeners with experience of weedkillers think of what they have told me. Hazchem It does sound like glyphosate or a derivative. Quite effective on emerging weeds at this time of year. I would play safe for a few days and then carry on as normal. Best of luck with the council and let us know which weedkiller they were using.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Should not glyphosate be used to spot-treat weeds on paths or paving stones? Or sprayed onto areas of weed growing in soil? This was sprayed onto paving slabs where there were no weeds, not even seedlings, or moss. Why was there a white residue? Does glyphosate leave a white residue? I would think sodium chlorate does. I will ask for the name of the weedkiller, but I have no confidence I will get the truth. The council will ask the subcontractor and the subcontractor can say what they like. Even if it is their policy to use glyphosate, the workers may end up using a cheaper alternative. The fact that paths and paving slabs have been sprayed suggests it is not a contact weedkiller, no matter what the council think. What a waste of money. How much overtime does a worker have to be paid to come out on a Sunday? Spraying weedkiller in this way doesn't work anyway. There is a big patch of Japaneseknotweedthat they haven't touched. I can see where they have been by the residue (which is ugly) and they don't seem to have been constistent or thorough in what they have been doing. What an easy way to make some money. Just go in any wave a sprayer around, nobody comes to check up on what you have been doing. Its your tax that's paying for this.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hi there, A white residue and a general spray sounds a bit to me like the use of the old favorite Simazine. However, this chemical has been banned for many years, despite being highly effective. It was over use on the railways that led to the chemical getting banned and becoming present in most of our drinking water. Legally the sub contractor has to supply the client - in this case the council - with detailed spray records which the client should then allow you to see. However, it sounds as though you dont trust either the council or the contractor, so good luck. I would be surprised if they are using any chemical cheaper than Glyphosate - such a thing does not exist - since coming off patent, Glyphosate is very cheap and comes in many many forms, none of which are as good as Round Up. Good luck Phil Rusted |
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weedkiller concerns
On 28 Mar, 08:10, wrote:
On Mar 27, 11:59 am, "hazchem" wrote: On 26 Mar, 15:24, "Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\)" wrote: "hazchem" wrote in message roups.com... Yesterday Croydon Council sub-contractors came and sprayed weedkiller outside my front door, on the paving slabs. This is despite my asking them not to and having a notice on the outside of my front door DO NOT SPRAY WEEDKILLER ANYWHERE NEAR THIS GARDEN. I am concerned about run- off when rain comes. I don't want weedkiller washing into my garden. There is a visible white residue where they sprayed. I don't want to put my pots on top of it. Today I got a reply via email, but I don't know if I should believe them or not.This is what they said:- "Sorry about the confusion regarding the spraying of the communal area with weedkiller. Please be assured that the chemical used becomes inert if it touches hard services or soil, it only has an effect on green tissue. Therefore it will be safe to place your pots back out, and it if rains or you wash off the chemical it will not damage your soil. Also it will have no adverse affect of the cat or anything the cat steps on or walks through." Does this make any sense at all? Which weedkiller could it be? There are no weeds on the paving slabs so it doesn't make any sense. It is too early in the year to be using glyphosate, I would think, and sodium chlorate would not become inert. I did ask them a year ago what the weedkiller was, but they never told me. I intend to ask them again, but first I wanted to hear what gardeners with experience of weedkillers think of what they have told me. Hazchem It does sound like glyphosate or a derivative. Quite effective on emerging weeds at this time of year. I would play safe for a few days and then carry on as normal. Best of luck with the council and let us know which weedkiller they were using.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Should not glyphosate be used to spot-treat weeds on paths or paving stones? Or sprayed onto areas of weed growing in soil? This was sprayed onto paving slabs where there were no weeds, not even seedlings, or moss. Why was there a white residue? Does glyphosate leave a white residue? I would think sodium chlorate does. I will ask for the name of the weedkiller, but I have no confidence I will get the truth. The council will ask the subcontractor and the subcontractor can say what they like. Even if it is their policy to use glyphosate, the workers may end up using a cheaper alternative. The fact that paths and paving slabs have been sprayed suggests it is not a contact weedkiller, no matter what the council think. What a waste of money. How much overtime does a worker have to be paid to come out on a Sunday? Spraying weedkiller in this way doesn't work anyway. There is a big patch of Japaneseknotweedthat they haven't touched. I can see where they have been by the residue (which is ugly) and they don't seem to have been constistent or thorough in what they have been doing. What an easy way to make some money. Just go in any wave a sprayer around, nobody comes to check up on what you have been doing. Its your tax that's paying for this.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hi there, A white residue and a general spray sounds a bit to me like the use of the old favorite Simazine. However, this chemical has been banned for many years, despite being highly effective. It was over use on the railways that led to the chemical getting banned and becoming present in most of our drinking water. Legally the sub contractor has to supply the client - in this case the council - with detailed spray records which the client should then allow you to see. However, it sounds as though you dont trust either the council or the contractor, so good luck. I would be surprised if they are using any chemical cheaper than Glyphosate - such a thing does not exist - since coming off patent, Glyphosate is very cheap and comes in many many forms, none of which are as good as Round Up. Good luck Phil Rusted- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I emailed the council and asked them for the spray records. I also mentioned to them that the sub-contractors had not touched the Japanese knotweed or the sycamore seedlings growing in a corner of the communal garden area. This is the reply I got:- "The men spraying for us only do hard surfaces .The Weed killer we use will not kill the weeds you mention. I have passed your enquiry onto Dave Thomas our horticultural officer." This does not sound like glyphosate. So their prior assurances that 'the chemical used becomes inert if it touches hard services (sic) or soil, it only has an effect on green tissue' would seem to be incorrect. I will have to wait for the spray records, if they have any. Hazchem |
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