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"Sacha" wrote in message . uk... On 27/4/07 08:17, in article , "Muddymike" wrote: Whilst searching the web for something else I came across this http://www.gardenbanter.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=41 I did not know our group was available in this form. They take the posts from here - without permission - and use them there. -- Sacha Show me the copyright on any of these postings. Mike -- .................................................. .............. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association. 'THE' Association if you served in the Electrical Branch of the Royal Navy www.rneba.org.uk |
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'Mike' wrote:
"Sacha" wrote in message . uk... On 27/4/07 08:17, in article , "Muddymike" wrote: Whilst searching the web for something else I came across this http://www.gardenbanter.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=41 I did not know our group was available in this form. They take the posts from here - without permission - and use them there. -- Sacha Show me the copyright on any of these postings. Copyright doesn't have to be stated to exist. Just about everything one writes is automatically copyright and this applies to newsgroup postings as much as anything else. However because of the public nature of newsgroups it's accepted that their contents are fairly freely quotable without infringing the original writer's copyright. At least this is my understanding. -- Chris Green |
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wrote in message ... 'Mike' wrote: "Sacha" wrote in message . uk... On 27/4/07 08:17, in article , "Muddymike" wrote: Whilst searching the web for something else I came across this http://www.gardenbanter.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=41 I did not know our group was available in this form. They take the posts from here - without permission - and use them there. -- Sacha Show me the copyright on any of these postings. Copyright doesn't have to be stated to exist. Just about everything one writes is automatically copyright and this applies to newsgroup postings as much as anything else. However because of the public nature of newsgroups it's accepted that their contents are fairly freely quotable without infringing the original writer's copyright. At least this is my understanding. -- Chris Green Can't argue about the first bit but I quite agree about the newsgroups being 'free and easy' with regards their content. However, as Sacha is paranoid about Garden banter 'pinching her articles', what sort of case would she have to sue them? A case of laugh in her face? :-) Mike -- .................................................. .............. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association. 'THE' Association if you served in the Electrical Branch of the Royal Navy www.rneba.org.uk |
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On 27/4/07 09:12, in article ,
" wrote: snip Copyright doesn't have to be stated to exist. Just about everything one writes is automatically copyright and this applies to newsgroup postings as much as anything else. However because of the public nature of newsgroups it's accepted that their contents are fairly freely quotable without infringing the original writer's copyright. At least this is my understanding. I think we all know that is the case but what some of us object to is the freeloading for commercial purposes. They're 'stealing' other peoples' knowledge, information, experiences and using them to promote their own interests and they haven't even asked if they may do so. It's shabby and greedy, as are those who endorse it, not that many here do. What is interesting is that on the home page there is this: "The comments are property of their posters. " I often wonder what would happen if someone here gave such bad advice that it wrecked a Gardenbanter reader's garden. Who would the victim sue - Gardenbanter, obviously. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ (remove weeds from address) |
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"Sacha" wrote in message . uk... On 27/4/07 09:12, in article , " wrote: snip Copyright doesn't have to be stated to exist. Just about everything one writes is automatically copyright and this applies to newsgroup postings as much as anything else. However because of the public nature of newsgroups it's accepted that their contents are fairly freely quotable without infringing the original writer's copyright. At least this is my understanding. I think we all know that is the case but what some of us object to is the freeloading for commercial purposes. They're 'stealing' other peoples' knowledge, information, experiences and using them to promote their own interests and they haven't even asked if they may do so. It's shabby and greedy, as are those who endorse it, not that many here do. What is interesting is that on the home page there is this: "The comments are property of their posters. " I often wonder what would happen if someone here gave such bad advice that it wrecked a Gardenbanter reader's garden. Who would the victim sue - Gardenbanter, obviously. -- Sacha You ALWAYS create merry hell when a posting comes up from Garden banter and lay down the law. Why don't you sue them? All mouth on here are you? Put up or shut up. :-)) Mike -- .................................................. .............. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association. 'THE' Association if you served in the Electrical Branch of the Royal Navy www.rneba.org.uk |
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Sacha wrote:
On 27/4/07 09:12, in article , " wrote: snip Copyright doesn't have to be stated to exist. Just about everything one writes is automatically copyright and this applies to newsgroup postings as much as anything else. However because of the public nature of newsgroups it's accepted that their contents are fairly freely quotable without infringing the original writer's copyright. At least this is my understanding. I think we all know that is the case but what some of us object to is the freeloading for commercial purposes. They're 'stealing' other peoples' knowledge, information, experiences and using them to promote their own interests and they haven't even asked if they may do so. It's shabby and greedy, as are those who endorse it, not that many here do. Quite, but I suspect that there's little one can do about it except possibly to join Gardenbanter and make one's case there in the hope that its readers will move to Usenet proper. What is interesting is that on the home page there is this: "The comments are property of their posters. " So they are at least acknowledging your/my copyright. -- Chris Green |
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"Muddymike" wrote in message ... Whilst searching the web for something else I came across this http://www.gardenbanter.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=41 I did not know our group was available in this form. Just ignore it and stay in this group! Alan Mike |
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Quite, but I suspect that there's little one can do about it except possibly to join Gardenbanter and make one's case there in the hope that its readers will move to Usenet proper. Why bother joining. Those reading garden banter will see these posts and as a result soon get to know that the site they are using is not the true source of the information they are reading. Changing the subject line may also get their attention :) -- Alan news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com |
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On 27/4/07 12:56, in article ,
" wrote: Sacha wrote: On 27/4/07 09:12, in article , " wrote: snip Copyright doesn't have to be stated to exist. Just about everything one writes is automatically copyright and this applies to newsgroup postings as much as anything else. However because of the public nature of newsgroups it's accepted that their contents are fairly freely quotable without infringing the original writer's copyright. At least this is my understanding. I think we all know that is the case but what some of us object to is the freeloading for commercial purposes. They're 'stealing' other peoples' knowledge, information, experiences and using them to promote their own interests and they haven't even asked if they may do so. It's shabby and greedy, as are those who endorse it, not that many here do. Quite, but I suspect that there's little one can do about it except possibly to join Gardenbanter and make one's case there in the hope that its readers will move to Usenet proper. Up to now, this group has tended to approach things from the opposite pov and encourage those who post from Gardenbanter here, to join urg direct. That way they'll see everything, rather than what Gardenbanter chooses for them to see. What is interesting is that on the home page there is this: "The comments are property of their posters. " So they are at least acknowledging your/my copyright. But ignoring it. Some time ago, I wrote telling them that I don't want them to print my articles and that they do not have my permission to do so. I know at least one other person did the same. Because I don't earn a living writing here there is no point in suing them because I can't show that I am losing by their actions. All I can do is express my contempt for them. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ (remove weeds from address) |
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On 27/4/07 14:28, in article , "Alan"
wrote: In message , Quite, but I suspect that there's little one can do about it except possibly to join Gardenbanter and make one's case there in the hope that its readers will move to Usenet proper. Why bother joining. Those reading garden banter will see these posts and as a result soon get to know that the site they are using is not the true source of the information they are reading. Changing the subject line may also get their attention :) Isn't Gardenbanter modified? If they want to cut out posts with such suggestions in it, I think they probably could. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ (remove weeds from address) |
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"Sacha" wrote in message . uk... On 27/4/07 12:56, in article , " wrote: Sacha wrote: On 27/4/07 09:12, in article , " wrote: snip Copyright doesn't have to be stated to exist. Just about everything one writes is automatically copyright and this applies to newsgroup postings as much as anything else. However because of the public nature of newsgroups it's accepted that their contents are fairly freely quotable without infringing the original writer's copyright. At least this is my understanding. I think we all know that is the case but what some of us object to is the freeloading for commercial purposes. They're 'stealing' other peoples' knowledge, information, experiences and using them to promote their own interests and they haven't even asked if they may do so. It's shabby and greedy, as are those who endorse it, not that many here do. Quite, but I suspect that there's little one can do about it except possibly to join Gardenbanter and make one's case there in the hope that its readers will move to Usenet proper. Up to now, this group has tended to approach things from the opposite pov and encourage those who post from Gardenbanter here, to join urg direct. That way they'll see everything, rather than what Gardenbanter chooses for them to see. What is interesting is that on the home page there is this: "The comments are property of their posters. " So they are at least acknowledging your/my copyright. But ignoring it. Some time ago, I wrote telling them that I don't want them to print my articles and that they do not have my permission to do so. I know at least one other person did the same. Because I don't earn a living writing here there is no point in suing them because I can't show that I am losing by their actions. All I can do is express my contempt for them. and get hot under the collar every time Garden banter is mentioned. Poor poor sad sad old woman :-(( Mike -- .................................................. .............. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association. 'THE' Association if you served in the Electrical Branch of the Royal Navy www.rneba.org.uk |
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In article , 'Mike'
writes Show me the copyright on any of these postings. Mike It is actually annoying that they do this because some years ago I posted to THIS group, happy to give away seeds I had spare. About 1 year later they put it on their website and I got emails from lots of unknown people all demanding spare seeds, of which I had no more! It was disappointing for the emailer as well. Janet -- Janet Tweedy Amersham Gardening Association http://www.amersham-gardening.net |
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"Janet Tweedy" wrote in message ... In article , 'Mike' writes It is actually annoying that they do this because some years ago I posted to THIS group, happy to give away seeds I had spare. About 1 year later they put it on their website and I got emails from lots of unknown people all demanding spare seeds, of which I had no more! It was disappointing for the emailer as well. Perhaps we should all add "Message not posted to garden banter" to our signature line. Or perhaps, "Message stolen by garden banter" Oh what fun we could have. Mike Message not posted to garden banter |
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