F**king Ramblers
Ramblers origins come from Manchester Communists.
Have you ever heard of a commie that can keep his/her mouth shut? They're a blight on the countryside. Angus Macmillan www.roots-of-blood.org.uk www.killhunting.org www.con-servation.org.uk All truth passes through three stages: First, it is ridiculed; Second, it is violently opposed; and Third, it is accepted as self-evident. -- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860) |
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Angus wrote ... Ramblers origins come from Manchester Communists. Have you ever heard of a commie that can keep his/her mouth shut? They're a blight on the countryside. I must admit that when I'm out for a quiet walk in the Surrey Hills which includes watching wildlife etc and come across the usual platoon of chattering Ramblers which I can usually hear from half a mile away I would tend to agree with you. I also don't agree with their philosophy that the countryside must be 100% for them alone and that they won't share it with anybody else, like 4x4 drivers. But then I also drive a mud covered 1986 Landrover 90 (our mobile allotment shed!). -- Regards Bob H |
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"Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... Angus wrote ... Ramblers origins come from Manchester Communists. Have you ever heard of a commie that can keep his/her mouth shut? They're a blight on the countryside. I must admit that when I'm out for a quiet walk in the Surrey Hills which includes watching wildlife etc and come across the usual platoon of chattering Ramblers which I can usually hear from half a mile away I would tend to agree with you. I also don't agree with their philosophy that the countryside must be 100% for them alone and that they won't share it with anybody else, like 4x4 drivers. But then I also drive a mud covered 1986 Landrover 90 (our mobile allotment shed!). Being both a walker and a 4X4 owner who occasionally enjoys a trundle around a few high level unsurfaced county roads and BOAT's I does **** me off that the ramblers association seems to want all lanes restricted to walkers. They already enjoy thousands of miles of public footpaths against a miniscule few hundred miles of vehicle rights of way. Mike |
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On Thu, 10 May 2007 16:58:01 +0100, "Bob Hobden"
wrote: Angus wrote ... Ramblers origins come from Manchester Communists. Have you ever heard of a commie that can keep his/her mouth shut? They're a blight on the countryside. I must admit that when I'm out for a quiet walk in the Surrey Hills which includes watching wildlife etc and come across the usual platoon of chattering Ramblers which I can usually hear from half a mile away I would tend to agree with you. I also don't agree with their philosophy that the countryside must be 100% for them alone and that they won't share it with anybody else, like 4x4 drivers. But then I also drive a mud covered 1986 Landrover 90 (our mobile allotment shed!). One as short as that? I've a 110 of the same year :-) Seriously, these geriatric commies think they own the countryside to the exclusion of everyone else. Since the "right to roam" legislation I think they are seem as a band of militants and their communist background, of which few know about, adds to that image. Angus Macmillan www.roots-of-blood.org.uk www.killhunting.org www.con-servation.org.uk All truth passes through three stages: First, it is ridiculed; Second, it is violently opposed; and Third, it is accepted as self-evident. -- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860) |
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Muddymike wrote:
"Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... Angus wrote ... Ramblers origins come from Manchester Communists. Have you ever heard of a commie that can keep his/her mouth shut? They're a blight on the countryside. I must admit that when I'm out for a quiet walk in the Surrey Hills which includes watching wildlife etc and come across the usual platoon of chattering Ramblers which I can usually hear from half a mile away I would tend to agree with you. I also don't agree with their philosophy that the countryside must be 100% for them alone and that they won't share it with anybody else, like 4x4 drivers. But then I also drive a mud covered 1986 Landrover 90 (our mobile allotment shed!). Being both a walker and a 4X4 owner who occasionally enjoys a trundle around a few high level unsurfaced county roads and BOAT's I does **** me off that the ramblers association seems to want all lanes restricted to walkers. They already enjoy thousands of miles of public footpaths against a miniscule few hundred miles of vehicle rights of way. Mike Whilst OT I'd like to add this... I had a problem with a group of Ramblers in Cheshire committing what can only be described as vandalism. I was in one of my woods repairing a fence and was accosted by a group purporting to be Ramblers. Harmless enough thinks I. How wrong! An elderly guy started laying into me about driving my 4x4 on public land. How wrong, again! My land, public right of way to cross from one side to the other without stopping or deviating from the marked path. Anyway, he informed me that I was breaking the law by blocking a badger sett and he wilfully set about removing the work I had done. Knowing a bit about badgers I have badger gates on the permanent runs but where the young boars dig rutting holes I repair the fences. Off they toddle and I make good the rather pathetic attempt at damaging the fence and drive further along the track to find the same old guy trying to dislodge an old and albeit mouldy stile. There is no fence and for the last 25 years folk have walked around it. Fair play though, they were keeping to the edge of the wood and these were only the rantings of an old gent who felt he had a point to prove to his younger wards. Anyway, they break out of the tree line and proceed to meander across one of my cropped fields ignoring the path that is waymarked and kept free from crop for them. I follow in my pickup and get a tirade of abuse for following them and they threaten to report me to the landowner. "I am he" says I. And they scuttle off! I checked the Ramblers Association web site as I really wanted to register my displeasure at this all. And do you know what? The Ramblers Association advocates the deliberate ignorance of Public Rights of Way due to the fact that it is unlikely that a land owner will be able to prosecute anyway. How irresponsible is that? I really expected a guiding paragraph to all Ramblers along the lines of please keep the landowners happy since despite the freedom to roam act, there are bits that plainly belong to somebody else!!! I generally find the quad bikers and 4x4 drivers to be more friendly than the Ramblers and the Horsey set. Yes there are ruts but a few weeks into winter and after a spot of erosion and the ground is flat again. The quad bikers in my area even offer to make good any real damage they do. Simon |
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I had a problem with a group of Ramblers in Cheshire committing what can
only be described as vandalism. Simon Some "ramblers" decided the style between the busy main road and a public footpath over one of my fathers fields was too high so they removed a couple of bars. The first we knew of this was when an anxious motorist knocked on the door to say he had just narrowly escaped a head on collision with a cow as he drove around a blind bend - our cows had escaped over what remained of the style and were strolling along the main road! Lucky nobody was killed! -- David |
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On 10 May, 21:37, "David \(Normandy\)"
wrote: Some "ramblers" decided the style between the busy main road and a public footpath over one of my fathers fields was too high so they removed a couple of bars. The first we knew of this was when an anxious motorist knocked on the door to say he had just narrowly escaped a head on collision with a cow as he drove around a blind bend - our cows had escaped over what remained of the style and were strolling along the main road! Lucky nobody was killed! Is this a rehearsal for 'Grumpy Old Men'?! I'm kidding. I've walked with my family for over 20 years and you know I've never ever met any Ramblers, or I might have but never really knew they were. What do they look like? On saturday we did a fantastic walk between Grasmere and Rydal Water, we started at Elterwater through Low Wood, Red Bank, Loughrigg Cave and fell, Lanty Scar, down to Loughrigg tarn, got lost for about an hour and ended at Skelwith Bridge. But a pub waited for us at 7.30 with a sunset for desert. What a beautiful Cumbria it was. Don't blame us for wanting to walk. It's so beautiful. This is my favourite photo of hundreds I've taken, it was a hard choice. http://cjoint.com/?fkxx23koSg |
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"Muddymike" wrote in message om... "Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... Angus wrote ... Ramblers origins come from Manchester Communists. Have you ever heard of a commie that can keep his/her mouth shut? They're a blight on the countryside. I must admit that when I'm out for a quiet walk in the Surrey Hills which includes watching wildlife etc and come across the usual platoon of chattering Ramblers which I can usually hear from half a mile away I would tend to agree with you. I also don't agree with their philosophy that the countryside must be 100% for them alone and that they won't share it with anybody else, like 4x4 drivers. But then I also drive a mud covered 1986 Landrover 90 (our mobile allotment shed!). Being both a walker and a 4X4 owner who occasionally enjoys a trundle around a few high level unsurfaced county roads and BOAT's I does **** me off that the ramblers association seems to want all lanes restricted to walkers. They already enjoy thousands of miles of public footpaths against a miniscule few hundred miles of vehicle rights of way. The Ramblers Assoc is missnamed, it should really be called The High Speed Walkers Assoc, as they do NOT 'ramble' they run through the countryside, and never, ever stop to look at anything around them! Mike |
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In message , Martin
writes waterproofs on a sunny day, rucksacks, hairy socks, walking with the help of Nordic ski sticks ... Oh dear - whenever I walk on the moor I invariably wear/take a waterproof as the weather is very changeable - it can be sunny for hours and then with little warning the mist comes down and it starts to rain. We always have one rucksack between the two of us containing camera gear, drinks and a first aid kit which came in very useful a couple of years ago. I don't think you could describe my socks as hairy, more heavily textured - merino 'Smartwool' I recommend them to anyone who does any distance walking or over difficult terrain. I use my camera monopod as a stick when necessary but my slightly better half does use a pole when walking off track - it helps to identify the deep soggy areas that frequently appear to be harmless until prodded. We are not into route marches and I have never thought of myself as a Rambler as we tend to walk to a specific location to have a look at the landscape and particular archaeological or habitat features - but I could certainly pass as one based on your description. -- Robert |
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I've walked with my family for over 20 years and you know I've never
ever met any Ramblers, or I might have but never really knew they were. What do they look like? A key identifier of a "rambler" rather than people out for a walk enjoying the countryside, is their "attitude". They could care less for anything other than what they believe is their God given right to roam freely across farmland, damaging crops, letting out livestock etc. Out style had been sawn through to make it easier for them to cross! The average walker or child vandal doesn't go for walks miles away from towns armed with a hand saw. They were obviously too bloody minded to consider that the consequence of their actions could actually kill somebody. David. |
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On 11 May, 09:55, "David \(Normandy\)"
wrote: A key identifier of a "rambler" rather than people out for a walk enjoying the countryside, is their "attitude". They could care less for anything other than what they believe is their God given right to roam freely across farmland, damaging crops, letting out livestock etc. Out style had been sawn through to make it easier for them to cross! The average walker or child vandal doesn't go for walks miles away from towns armed with a hand saw. They were obviously too bloody minded to consider that the consequence of their actions could actually kill somebody. I hope these lunatics can be counted on one hand. I've had a look at the Ramblers Assoc. Looks fairly sane and well organised. There's 14,000 members! Blimey. You've given a disturbing story - and I feel for you and am sorry for the damage you got. But be reassured to know that if we see anyone behaving like what you describe, I'll be the first one to make sure these lunatics are stopped and when we go on one of our 'adventures' we are always respecting private properties, never go where we shouldn't go and we step lightly everywhere and never leave a reminder we've been there. On another note, how is it going in Normandy?! Managed to get rid of all the brambles/nettles etc? Any pictures?! |
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On 10 May, 23:23, Martin wrote:
waterproofs on a sunny day, rucksacks, hairy socks, walking with the help of Nordic ski sticks ... Hummm.... they should shave their legs. But come to think of it, we've seen lots of them. They always break into a whisper after they passed us. Must be that our hair are too long (and that includes the dogs). BTW, my father is President of the Nordic Walk Assoc. in France. Isn't that a coincidence. |
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"La Puce" wrote in message I hope these lunatics can be counted on one hand. I've had a look at the Ramblers Assoc. Looks fairly sane and well organised. There's 14,000 members! I'm not labelling all walkers / ramblers the same. I've enjoyed many walks around the countryside in the UK myself over the years. However, there are a small portion of idiots on both sides of the fence (no pun intended). I've seen people buy smallholdings with public footpaths across their land and the first thing they do is put barbed wire across the styles and attempt to completely block access. That sort of thing gives land owners a bad name. Farmers and walkers can all get on together fine provided their is mutual respect. On another note, how is it going in Normandy?! Managed to get rid of all the brambles/nettles etc? Any pictures?! Things are going well in Normandy. The countryside (lots of hills and valleys) around here looks a lot like the Cumbrian countryside photo you posted the link to. The main difference is that here is much greener with lots of grass and trees rather than heather and sparse grass. I've not updated the blog for ages. Been too busy with one thing or another. It is still a fight against all the weeds, they grow faster than I can hoe / pull / kill them. At the moment I'm getting the upper hand, but it is an ongoing battle. I'm determined not to let any go to seed this year - that happened last year in one part of the veg plot and I'm plagued with thousands of weed seedlings in that area now. David. |
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On 11/5/07 12:19, in article ,
"David (Normandy)" wrote: snip Things are going well in Normandy. The countryside (lots of hills and valleys) around here looks a lot like the Cumbrian countryside photo you posted the link to. The main difference is that here is much greener with lots of grass and trees rather than heather and sparse grass. I've not updated the blog for ages. Been too busy with one thing or another. It is still a fight against all the weeds, they grow faster than I can hoe / pull / kill them. At the moment I'm getting the upper hand, but it is an ongoing battle. I'm determined not to let any go to seed this year - that happened last year in one part of the veg plot and I'm plagued with thousands of weed seedlings in that area now. David. Normandy is very like South Devon which is probably why my old village was twinned with Trevieres! The Normans themselves commented on it when they paid return visits to Devon. Cumbria is of course, famous for its lakes, fells and dramatic landscape. In Devon, the drama is mostly confined to the moors and the rest is green and lush with steep combes in the north of the county and more shallow, rolling landscapes in the south. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk (remove weeds from address) Devon County Show 17-19 May http://www.devoncountyshow.co.uk/ |
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On 11 May, 12:19, "David \(Normandy\)"
wrote: Farmers and walkers can all get on together fine provided their is mutual respect. True. I've recently seen a disturbing programme called 'The lie of the land'. I insisted my kids watch it - it was heart breaking how much we (the consumers) are destroying this beautiful country and a way of life with our demands. At least I'm reassured that it's not my demands. I'm carreful and cautious with what I buy, consume and demand. If only everybody could just wake up and help these poor farmers. Maybe Gordon will do something about it ....? Things are going well in Normandy. The countryside (lots of hills and valleys) around here looks a lot like the Cumbrian countryside photo you posted the link to. The main difference is that here is much greener with lots of grass and trees rather than heather and sparse grass. I've not updated the blog for ages. Been too busy with one thing or another. It is still a fight against all the weeds, they grow faster than I can hoe / pull / kill them. At the moment I'm getting the upper hand, but it is an ongoing battle. I'm determined not to let any go to seed this year - that happened last year in one part of the veg plot and I'm plagued with thousands of weed seedlings in that area now. Oh David, get a goat honestly!! My cousin is getting two ponies for a bit of land she simply cannot manage. She's not sure they're going to eat what she doesn't like, but at least they'll tremple the weeds. And the kids will ride the ponies. |
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