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No not what you think :-) on a wet soggy morning I thought people might
have time to think. I have 12 bales of hay surplus to requirement and feel there has to be a use for them somewhere in the garden, the only thing I have come up with so far is a wall for a raised bed, any more ideas would be welcome. kate |
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"Kate Morgan" wrote in message ... No not what you think :-) on a wet soggy morning I thought people might have time to think. I have 12 bales of hay surplus to requirement and feel there has to be a use for them somewhere in the garden, the only thing I have come up with so far is a wall for a raised bed, any more ideas would be welcome. kate Kate, what do you think I was thinking? Kind regards Mike -- The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association. 'THE' Association if you served in the Electrical Branch of the Royal Navy Reunion Bournemouth August/September 2007 www.rneba.org.uk |
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"Kate Morgan" wrote ... No not what you think :-) on a wet soggy morning I thought people might have time to think. I have 12 bales of hay surplus to requirement and feel there has to be a use for them somewhere in the garden, the only thing I have come up with so far is a wall for a raised bed, any more ideas would be welcome. As they are excellent insulation I've seen them used for growing Melons on a local allotment (Italian chap). Make a raised bed with them, two high, poles shoved down through will keep them in place, then fill with horse manure etc which will get warm. Plant the Melons on top of this and provide some protection from the wind around the frame. -- Regards Bob H 17mls W. of London.UK |
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On 13 May, 10:33, "Bob Hobden" wrote:
"Kate Morgan" wrote ... No not what you think :-) on a wet soggy morning I thought people might have time to think. I have 12 bales of hay surplus to requirement and feel there has to be a use for them somewhere in the garden, the only thing I have come up with so far is a wall for a raised bed, any more ideas would be welcome. As they are excellent insulation I've seen them used for growing Melons on a local allotment (Italian chap). Make a raised bed with them, two high, poles shoved down through will keep them in place, then fill with horse manure etc which will get warm. Plant the Melons on top of this and provide some protection from the wind around the frame. -- Regards Bob H 17mls W. of London.UK One problem with Hay is that it should be cut when the grass is fully in seed. You could do the same as we used to do with Straw bales for growing cucumbers in the past. Soak them really well and water in high nitrogen fertilizer to get the bales heating and starting to rot. the Temp. should get up to around 120f (From memory) and stay around there for several days, when it comes down to around 80f you put a mound of compost on top and plant into it. the bottom heat gives the palnts a good start. You have to keep watering the bales or the heat dries them out and the rotting will stop. You could do something like this in bed shape and then as it is cooling build a bed of compost on top. That is, IF the hay will rot down like straw, but as the hay is denser and tighter packed I don't know if it will behave the same way David Hill Abacus Nurseries. |
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"Sacha" wrote after "Bob Hobden" wrote: "Kate Morgan" wrote ... No not what you think :-) on a wet soggy morning I thought people might have time to think. I have 12 bales of hay surplus to requirement and feel there has to be a use for them somewhere in the garden, the only thing I have come up with so far is a wall for a raised bed, any more ideas would be welcome. As they are excellent insulation I've seen them used for growing Melons on a local allotment (Italian chap). Make a raised bed with them, two high, poles shoved down through will keep them in place, then fill with horse manure etc which will get warm. Plant the Melons on top of this and provide some protection from the wind around the frame. Along with manure for heat (I think) isn't this rather how they're grown at Heligan, Bob? Yes, it's the fresh manure that gets hot as it rots down, and the bales do to, so giving the plants the heat they need in our uncertain climate. The manure can be used as normal the following season as it's well rotted by then. Don't know about Heligan, it's some time since I've been there and I don't think I've been during the summer for years, but it's rather like the way the Victorians used manure to provide heat for pineapples etc. The Italian chap always had an excellent crop and did this every year so providing well rotted manure each year too. -- Regards Bob H 17mls W. of London.UK |
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On 13 May, 11:56, "Bob Hobden" wrote:
Yes, it's the fresh manure that gets hot as it rots down, and the bales do to, so giving the plants the heat they need in our uncertain climate. The manure can be used as normal the following season as it's well rotted by then. Don't know about Heligan, it's some time since I've been there and I don't think I've been during the summer for years, but it's rather like the way the Victorians used manure to provide heat for pineapples etc. Heligan, I was there last year, have a melon house which uses a boiler to hot water pipes under the beds. The pineaple pits are still functioning and they grow cucumbers on it, it's made with manure and bark fermenting together and providing the eat. Last year as part of our Permaculture ceremony we did a project with straw bales. We cooked our dinner in it - a veggie hotpot which took all day to heat up. I made a throne with strawberries on either sides in the bales, cosy and warm and sipped my well earned beer in it :o) The Italian chap always had an excellent crop and did this every year so providing well rotted manure each year too. Monty showed this a couple of weeks ago though he had the bbc money to make a fabulous huge and tall wooden bed. I'm doing melons in this way, but mine is a digged pit because I've spent enough this year on stuff.... |
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Good for mulching, placing under strawberries and courgettes/marrows.
-- Baal I smile and go off waving (Amiably) - for that's my way "Kate Morgan" wrote in message ... No not what you think :-) on a wet soggy morning I thought people might have time to think. I have 12 bales of hay surplus to requirement and feel there has to be a use for them somewhere in the garden, the only thing I have come up with so far is a wall for a raised bed, any more ideas would be welcome. kate -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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On 13 May 2007 02:59:20 -0700, Dave Hill
wrote: On 13 May, 10:33, "Bob Hobden" wrote: "Kate Morgan" wrote ... No not what you think :-) on a wet soggy morning I thought people might have time to think. I have 12 bales of hay surplus to requirement and feel there has to be a use for them somewhere in the garden, the only thing I have come up with so far is a wall for a raised bed, any more ideas would be welcome. As they are excellent insulation I've seen them used for growing Melons on a local allotment (Italian chap). Make a raised bed with them, two high, poles shoved down through will keep them in place, then fill with horse manure etc which will get warm. Plant the Melons on top of this and provide some protection from the wind around the frame. -- Regards Bob H 17mls W. of London.UK One problem with Hay is that it should be cut when the grass is fully in seed. You could do the same as we used to do with Straw bales for growing cucumbers in the past. Soak them really well and water in high nitrogen fertilizer to get the bales heating and starting to rot. the Temp. should get up to around 120f (From memory) and stay around there for several days, when it comes down to around 80f you put a mound of compost on top and plant into it. the bottom heat gives the palnts a good start. You have to keep watering the bales or the heat dries them out and the rotting will stop. You could do something like this in bed shape and then as it is cooling build a bed of compost on top. That is, IF the hay will rot down like straw, but as the hay is denser and tighter packed I don't know if it will behave the same way David Hill Abacus Nurseries. As I understand it, the best high nitrogen fertiliser is urine. Use it as a "green" toilet, if you have a suitable place, and when the hay starts to heat up, do as Dave says! I know Adam Hart Davis (he of "What the Romans did for us" etc) has one in his garden in Bristol. Only suitable for the men to use, he says. His is made of straw bales, not hay. Pam in Bristol |
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"Pam Moore" wrote in message ... On 13 May 2007 02:59:20 -0700, Dave Hill wrote: On 13 May, 10:33, "Bob Hobden" wrote: "Kate Morgan" wrote ... No not what you think :-) on a wet soggy morning I thought people might have time to think. I have 12 bales of hay surplus to requirement and feel there has to be a use for them somewhere in the garden, the only thing I have come up with so far is a wall for a raised bed, any more ideas would be welcome. As they are excellent insulation I've seen them used for growing Melons on a local allotment (Italian chap). Make a raised bed with them, two high, poles shoved down through will keep them in place, then fill with horse manure etc which will get warm. Plant the Melons on top of this and provide some protection from the wind around the frame. -- Regards Bob H 17mls W. of London.UK One problem with Hay is that it should be cut when the grass is fully in seed. You could do the same as we used to do with Straw bales for growing cucumbers in the past. Soak them really well and water in high nitrogen fertilizer to get the bales heating and starting to rot. the Temp. should get up to around 120f (From memory) and stay around there for several days, when it comes down to around 80f you put a mound of compost on top and plant into it. the bottom heat gives the palnts a good start. You have to keep watering the bales or the heat dries them out and the rotting will stop. You could do something like this in bed shape and then as it is cooling build a bed of compost on top. That is, IF the hay will rot down like straw, but as the hay is denser and tighter packed I don't know if it will behave the same way David Hill Abacus Nurseries. As I understand it, the best high nitrogen fertiliser is urine. Use it as a "green" toilet, if you have a suitable place, and when the hay starts to heat up, do as Dave says! I know Adam Hart Davis (he of "What the Romans did for us" etc) has one in his garden in Bristol. Only suitable for the men to use, he says. His is made of straw bales, not hay. Why can't women use it as well? |
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On May 15, 4:50 pm, Pam Moore wrote:
As I understand it, the best high nitrogen fertiliser is urine. Use it as a "green" toilet, if you have a suitable place, and when the hay starts to heat up, do as Dave says! As old timers (urglers) know I tried the urine tip and each night saved it all only one morning to have a slight accident coming downstairs, I swear I can still see a slight yellowing on the carpet and up the walls and a whiff of eau de pee, despite hours of cleaning Never again, I now buy that accelerator stuff. |
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On 16/5/07 18:54, in article
, " wrote: On May 15, 4:50 pm, Pam Moore wrote: As I understand it, the best high nitrogen fertiliser is urine. Use it as a "green" toilet, if you have a suitable place, and when the hay starts to heat up, do as Dave says! As old timers (urglers) know I tried the urine tip and each night saved it all only one morning to have a slight accident coming downstairs, I swear I can still see a slight yellowing on the carpet and up the walls and a whiff of eau de pee, despite hours of cleaning Never again, I now buy that accelerator stuff. Your account of that was one of the funniest things ever posted to urg and should be in the FAQ. I remember absolutely weeping with laughter as I read it. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk (remove weeds from address) Devon County Show 17-19 May http://www.devoncountyshow.co.uk/ |
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On May 15, 4:50 pm, Pam Moore wrote: As I understand it, the best high nitrogen fertiliser is urine. Use it as a "green" toilet, if you have a suitable place, and when the hay starts to heat up, do as Dave says! As old timers (urglers) know I tried the urine tip and each night saved it all only one morning to have a slight accident coming downstairs, I swear I can still see a slight yellowing on the carpet and up the walls and a whiff of eau de pee, despite hours of cleaning Never again, I now buy that accelerator stuff. Ah, men do not have that problem! Waht you want is one of these! http://tinyurl.com/3d4fl4 pk |
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wrote in message ups.com... On May 15, 4:50 pm, Pam Moore wrote: As I understand it, the best high nitrogen fertiliser is urine. Use it as a "green" toilet, if you have a suitable place, and when the hay starts to heat up, do as Dave says! As old timers (urglers) know I tried the urine tip and each night saved it all only one morning to have a slight accident coming downstairs, I swear I can still see a slight yellowing on the carpet and up the walls and a whiff of eau de pee, despite hours of cleaning Never again, I now buy that accelerator stuff. You should have used a bucket! |
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