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There's probably been a thread about this, but I can't find it...

I've been catching up with the progs I taped of the evening coverage of the
show.....

Were as many of you as disappointed as I was??

The waffling debates between the presenters went on and on and on. I saw
hardly any small gardens and they kept repeating the same show gardens all
week. Do the show gardens pay the BBC for the extra exposure ?

And what about gadgets etc - didn't see any of those either.

All in all I was very disappointed and Carol Klein even got on my nerves
towards the end with her endless enthusiasm!

--
Jenny (the Netherlands)
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On Sun, 27 May 2007 15:08:25 +0200, Martin wrote:

All in all I was very disappointed and Carol Klein even got on my nerves
towards the end with her endless enthusiasm!

Long over due, she has got on my nerves since she first appeared on our box.

Carol Klein is wonderful, she is really enthusiastic and you can see
she genuinely loves the plants. Unlike certain other presenters who
are only there to further inflate their already excessive egos.

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On 27 May, 13:41, "JennyC" wrote:
There's probably been a thread about this, but I can't find it...

I've been catching up with the progs I taped of the evening coverage of the
show.....

Were as many of you as disappointed as I was??
Jenny
I share your dissapointment. Whilst I liked Carol's slot, what
irritated me was the return to the same gardens all the time. I was
left wondering if there where any other stands other than clematis,
carnivourous plants, large stand from the west indies and roses. And
the only gardens are the main show gardens. I know the BBC gives the
RHS a wad of cash for all this - which is why they did the Garden's
through Time at Harlow Carr and now the GQT northern garden (not
because the RHS is interested for it has stopped all the seed trials,
Sweet pea trials etc that the Northern Horticultural Society ran for
years)

Fortunately on www.flickr.com Yahoo's other photo posting site, people
have posted their pics of Chelsea and I found it infinately better
than the tv coverage.
My favourite garden was the one by the Japanese gardener who used the
moss balls on the wall. (which on TV turned into a trip to Paris -
very interesting, worthy of a Gardeners World slot, I want to watch
Chelsea not go on a jolly to see.....blood pressure rising - back to
the gardening)

So I wonder - are the BBC not allowed to show us everything, so that
there is something to go for?

Clifford
Bawtry, Doncaster, South Yorkshire

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cliff_the_gardener writes

So I wonder - are the BBC not allowed to show us everything, so that
there is something to go for?

The Malvern Show coverage the other week was quite good - much better
than everyone's descriptions of the Chelsea coverage.
--
Kay

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"K" wrote in message
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cliff_the_gardener writes

So I wonder - are the BBC not allowed to show us everything, so that
there is something to go for?

The Malvern Show coverage the other week was quite good - much better
than everyone's descriptions of the Chelsea coverage.
--
Kay

You can only stand so much disappointment - I stopped looking years ago!
Down side is that we then are totally unprepared for people asking for "That
Clematis that was on Chelsea" (do they only show one?) and have no idea what
they are talking about :~)

--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collections of Clematis viticella (cvs) and
Lapageria rosea

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"cliff_the_gardener" wrote in message
ups.com...
On 27 May, 13:41, "JennyC" wrote:
There's probably been a thread about this, but I can't find it...

I've been catching up with the progs I taped of the evening coverage of
the
show.....

Were as many of you as disappointed as I was??
Jenny
I share your dissapointment.

Fortunately on www.flickr.com Yahoo's other photo posting site, people
have posted their pics of Chelsea and I found it infinately better
than the tv coverage.

Yes :~))
770 photo's came up this morning for this years show and some of them are
very good indeed :~)))))))))))

My favourite garden was the one by the Japanese gardener who used the
moss balls on the wall. (which on TV turned into a trip to Paris -
very interesting, worthy of a Gardeners World slot, I want to watch
Chelsea not go on a jolly to see.....blood pressure rising - back to
the gardening)

Ah, lets agree to differ on that one! I found that the most interesting part
of the whole week :~))

So I wonder - are the BBC not allowed to show us everything, so that
there is something to go for?

I have a family member who has contacts within the RHS ...........will makes
noises in his direction :~))

Jenny

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"Martin" wrote in message
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On Sun, 27 May 2007 15:08:25 +0200, Martin wrote:

On Sun, 27 May 2007 14:41:18 +0200, "JennyC"
wrote:

Were as many of you as disappointed as I was??

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People's gripes about the way the BBC presented the Chelsea Flower Show
were on
Points of View this evening.
Martin

And what was the rreaction ?
Jenny

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"K" wrote in message
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cliff_the_gardener writes

So I wonder - are the BBC not allowed to show us everything, so that
there is something to go for?

The Malvern Show coverage the other week was quite good - much better
than everyone's descriptions of the Chelsea coverage.
Kay

Missed it :~((
Jenny

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"Charlie Pridham" wrote in message
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"K" wrote in message
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cliff_the_gardener writes

So I wonder - are the BBC not allowed to show us everything, so that
there is something to go for?

The Malvern Show coverage the other week was quite good - much better
than everyone's descriptions of the Chelsea coverage.
--
Kay

You can only stand so much disappointment - I stopped looking years ago!

Sensible man Charlie :~)) But I am always hopeful that they will take notice
of what we say here and change the format....... I'd rather have one hour of
good coveraeg that the thinly spread out burbling of AT for 5 or 6 hours :~)

Down side is that we then are totally unprepared for people asking for
"That
Clematis that was on Chelsea" (do they only show one?) and have no idea
what
they are talking about :~)

Plus their grammer :~))
Jenny



--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collections of Clematis viticella (cvs) and
Lapageria rosea

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Charlie Pridham writes

"K" wrote in message
...
cliff_the_gardener writes

So I wonder - are the BBC not allowed to show us everything, so that
there is something to go for?

The Malvern Show coverage the other week was quite good - much better
than everyone's descriptions of the Chelsea coverage.
--

You can only stand so much disappointment - I stopped looking years ago!
Down side is that we then are totally unprepared for people asking for "That
Clematis that was on Chelsea" (do they only show one?) and have no idea what
they are talking about :~)

So did I - that's why I could only say the Malvern coverage was better
than people's descriptions ;-)

You could say to people 'do you mean the pink one or the purple one?'
and then they'd think more than one was shown and they'd have to
describe it for you ;-)
--
Kay

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JennyC writes

Sensible man Charlie :~)) But I am always hopeful that they will take notice
of what we say here and change the format....... I'd rather have one hour of
good coveraeg that the thinly spread out burbling of AT for 5 or 6 hours :~)

I've stopped watching last Night of the Proms since they added AT to it
:-(
--
Kay

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"K" wrote in message
...
JennyC writes

Sensible man Charlie :~)) But I am always hopeful that they will take
notice
of what we say here and change the format....... I'd rather have one hour
of
good coveraeg that the thinly spread out burbling of AT for 5 or 6 hours
:~)

I've stopped watching last Night of the Proms since they added AT to it
:-(
--
Kay

I'm glad you don't like him either !! But he's lost weight, got rid of the
jumpers and seemed to have a new hair style. At least now he looks better
and if you turn the sound of, he's just about bearable ATM :~)

Jenny

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Sorry Kay did not get to see Malvern on telly; not a show I have been
to either - bit of a drive for a day trip

Clifford
Bawtry, Doncaster, South Yorkshire

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Jenny

My favourite garden was the one by the Japanese gardener who used the
moss balls on the wall. (which on TV turned into a trip to Paris -
very interesting, worthy of a Gardeners World slot, I want to watch
Chelsea not go on a jolly to see.....blood pressure rising - back to
the gardening)

Ah, lets agree to differ on that one! I found that the most interesting part
of the whole week :~))

I agree it was very interesting and would like to know more, but the
the guy wasn't even exhibiting at Chelsea. Let these diversions
exist in the gardening programs rather than acting as fillers of
coverage of the shows. A bit like Charlie Dimmocks coverage of some
of the American Arisaemias (?), well it was a pitcher plant, living in
a fast flowing stream rather than a still peaty glade that I had
imagined.

May be I have just out grown the standard offering, Having followed
the programs for a number of years I have learnt from them and now
want to be challenged more about plants.

Clifford
Bawtry, Doncaster, South Yorkshire

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"cliff_the_gardener" wrote in message
s.com...

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May be I have just out grown the standard offering, Having followed
the programs for a number of years I have learnt from them and now
want to be challenged more about plants.

Clifford
Bawtry, Doncaster, South Yorkshire

Perhaps, like me, you are just becoming a crotchety old fart:-)

Chelsea is a heavily sponsored commercial financial event and it's designed
to appeal to the widest audience, which unfortunately means there is not
much that will appeal to you/me or the odd thousand of other gardeners.

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On May 28, 12:11 pm, "Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\)"
wrote:

Perhaps, like me, you are just becoming a crotchety old fart:-)

Rupert!!!! What an admission.

Chelsea is a heavily sponsored commercial financial event and it's designed
to appeal to the widest audience, which unfortunately means there is not
much that will appeal to you/me or the odd thousand of other gardeners.

I was listening to local radio last week on the way to the airport and
they had a Chelsea half hour. What a waste of time, all they did was
celebrity spot. I couldn't be bothered with the t.v. or the radio and
I have missed most of Chelsea this year.

Judith in Unsunny France

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On May 28, 12:11 pm, "Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\)"
wrote:

Perhaps, like me, you are just becoming a crotchety old fart:-)

Rupert!!!! What an admission.

The "I shall wear purple" thing doesn't just apply to you girls:-)

Chelsea is a heavily sponsored commercial financial event and it's
designed
to appeal to the widest audience, which unfortunately means there is not
much that will appeal to you/me or the odd thousand of other gardeners.

I was listening to local radio last week on the way to the airport and
they had a Chelsea half hour. What a waste of time, all they did was
celebrity spot. I couldn't be bothered with the t.v. or the radio and
I have missed most of Chelsea this year.


I can search round and find someone who recorded the lot if you want but do
you want to spend a day or so watching for a brief snippet of something that
might interest you?

Judith in Unsunny France

Just cos you moved to France doesn't mean you get sun but I suppose all
those delightful French folk make up for the lack of sun ;-).

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"K" wrote in message
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Charlie Pridham writes

"K" wrote in message
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cliff_the_gardener writes


You could say to people 'do you mean the pink one or the purple one?'
and then they'd think more than one was shown and they'd have to
describe it for you ;-)
--
Kay

Could, but when at plant sales I am trying to sell and invariably the plant
they want is not yet available except from certain outlets and with PBR
plastered all over it. Its easy enough when like a few years ago it was
"Josephine" which is a large pink double (although a few people described it
as a big purple double and were convinced they were right until shown its
picture and without the slightest embarrassment would say "Yes that's the
one"!, But when Raymond Evison decides to "Market" some clematis varieties
by calling them "Patio Clematis", "Prairie Clematis" or last years offering
" Festoon Clematis" we find that most people can't see that the plants are
exactly the same as before, just the name has changed! Its quite rare to be
able to buy a Chelsea introduction two years on and I expect its not just
clematis. But mustn't grumble at least Raymond's efforts make people think
about Clematis :~)
and as its one of the busiest weeks of the year I don't expect we would get
to see it even if it was great.
--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collections of Clematis viticella (cvs) and
Lapageria rosea

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On May 28, 12:39 pm, "Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\)"
wrote:
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Just cos you moved to France doesn't mean you get sun but I suppose all
those delightful French folk make up for the lack of sun ;-).

I haven't moved here yet Rupert, December this year is when the
removal van will bring our stuff. I am quite faint at the estimates
coming in so far, anyone would think I was moving to the North pole.

Judith

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cliff_the_gardener wrote:

Fortunately on www.flickr.com Yahoo's other photo posting site, people
have posted their pics of Chelsea and I found it infinately better
than the tv coverage.

Well, this is the great power of the internet: people get to put
forward their own choices.

For the music playout suggestions I put forward Snow Patrol's "Shut
Your Eyes", but all we got was boring safe classics and Louis
Armstrong, nothing adventurous at all, yet they kept showing the
'adventurous' gardens, steam-bent oak planking etc ad nauseum.
--

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"JennyC" wrote
"cliff_the_gardener"
On 27 May, 13:41, "JennyC" wrote:
I've been catching up with the progs I taped of the evening coverage of
the show.....
Were as many of you as disappointed as I was??
Jenny

I share your dissapointment.
So I wonder - are the BBC not allowed to show us everything, so that
there is something to go for?

I have a family member who has contacts within the RHS ...........will
makes noises in his direction :~))
Jenny

Noises duly made...........here's the reply.......

quote:
" As far as I understand it, the BBC is very much a free agent and under its
contract with the RHS, Alan Titchmarsh, Carol Klein, Joe Swift et al., are
free to go where their producers want them too and to talk amongst
themselves for as long as they like. Of course, the RHS reserves the right
not to renew the TV contract and, you may recall, the RHS did sack its TV
contractor a few years ago when it was either ITV or Channel 4. There are
some liaison meetings before Chelsea to enable the BBC to know what sort of
gardens and exhibits will be there and who will be designing or mounting
what in the pavilions so that the BBC can generate some background ‘colour’
items in advance of the Show but to be shown at the time of the Show.
However, I am assured that there are then no further meetings so as to
ensure that any assessments the BBC commentators make are completely
independent of the RHS’s judging. The only possible overlap I can see is
that the BBC was filming “A year in the life of the RHS” at the same time
during the show and for that it wanted certain RHS employees to walk around
and look at things, but again it seemed to be the producers who were
deciding which bits they wanted the participants to react to."
unquote

Jenny