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Sacha 20-07-2007 12:13 PM

Grass carp
 
Someone has suggested grass carp for the duckweed problem on one of our
ponds. But the general impression I get from the little I read is that they
grow to enormous sizes, are lake fish and are banned in US because they
devastate lake vegetation. Does anyone here have any experience of these in
UK and ponds, not lakes?

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Sacha
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(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Donna \(UK\) 20-07-2007 12:27 PM

Grass carp
 
We were going to get some grass carp but was told they will eat all the
green weed you have in the ponds given half a chance. Someone suggested
fencing off the weed with the plastic crop protection stuff you got.

Donna

"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
Someone has suggested grass carp for the duckweed problem on one of our
ponds. But the general impression I get from the little I read is that
they
grow to enormous sizes, are lake fish and are banned in US because they
devastate lake vegetation. Does anyone here have any experience of these
in
UK and ponds, not lakes?

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'





Nick Maclaren 20-07-2007 12:36 PM

Grass carp
 


We used to mow our lawn using guinea-pigs. I know it's been wet,
but I goggle at having to use carp for the purpose!


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

JennyC 20-07-2007 12:45 PM

Grass carp
 

"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
...


We used to mow our lawn using guinea-pigs.


Bit like this ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3J2FytvoS9M
Jenny "~))

I know it's been wet, but I goggle at having to use carp for the purpose!

Regards,
Nick Maclaren.




Steve Wolstenholme 20-07-2007 01:22 PM

Grass carp
 
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 12:13:38 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

Someone has suggested grass carp for the duckweed problem on one of our
ponds. But the general impression I get from the little I read is that they
grow to enormous sizes, are lake fish and are banned in US because they
devastate lake vegetation. Does anyone here have any experience of these in
UK and ponds, not lakes?


I haven't had any for about 40 years. They weren't much trouble. They
only grow to their huge size while there is lots of food available.
Once they have eaten your duckweed and every other plant in your pond.

The problem with grass carp is they don't look very nice and are a bit
messy if they need to dig up the pond.

Steve

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EasyNN-plus. The easy way to build neural networks.

http://www.easynn.com

Sacha 20-07-2007 02:00 PM

Grass carp
 
On 20/7/07 12:36, in article , "Nick
Maclaren" wrote:



We used to mow our lawn using guinea-pigs. I know it's been wet,
but I goggle at having to use carp for the purpose!

;-))


--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Sacha 20-07-2007 02:01 PM

Grass carp
 
On 20/7/07 13:22, in article ,
"Steve Wolstenholme" wrote:

On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 12:13:38 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

Someone has suggested grass carp for the duckweed problem on one of our
ponds. But the general impression I get from the little I read is that they
grow to enormous sizes, are lake fish and are banned in US because they
devastate lake vegetation. Does anyone here have any experience of these in
UK and ponds, not lakes?


I haven't had any for about 40 years. They weren't much trouble. They
only grow to their huge size while there is lots of food available.
Once they have eaten your duckweed and every other plant in your pond.

The problem with grass carp is they don't look very nice and are a bit
messy if they need to dig up the pond.

Steve


Matthew now tells me he put some in the oldest pond some years ago! Trouble
is, he can't remember what they look like or where he got them...! I'm not
sure he's remembering the right thing because that pond is full of
oxygenating weed, which nothing is eating!

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Steve Wolstenholme 20-07-2007 02:30 PM

Grass carp
 
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 14:01:36 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

On 20/7/07 13:22, in article ,
"Steve Wolstenholme" wrote:

On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 12:13:38 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

Someone has suggested grass carp for the duckweed problem on one of our
ponds. But the general impression I get from the little I read is that they
grow to enormous sizes, are lake fish and are banned in US because they
devastate lake vegetation. Does anyone here have any experience of these in
UK and ponds, not lakes?


I haven't had any for about 40 years. They weren't much trouble. They
only grow to their huge size while there is lots of food available.
Once they have eaten your duckweed and every other plant in your pond.

The problem with grass carp is they don't look very nice and are a bit
messy if they need to dig up the pond.

Steve


Matthew now tells me he put some in the oldest pond some years ago! Trouble
is, he can't remember what they look like or where he got them...! I'm not
sure he's remembering the right thing because that pond is full of
oxygenating weed, which nothing is eating!


There are lots of places that stock grass carp. Try Google. If the
pond still has a lot of weeds then maybe they weren't grass carp. It's
worth remembering that it is only the young grass carp that feed on
plants. Mature ones are a bit fussy. There is a few plants that grass
carp don't eat unless the are starving. They won't eat plants if
someone is feeding them. Grass carp are a boring silvery gray. Unlike
other carp their mouth tends to turn down.

Steve

--
Steve Wolstenholme Neural Planner Software Ltd

EasyNN-plus. The easy way to build neural networks.

http://www.easynn.com

Marco Schwarz 20-07-2007 04:29 PM

Grass carp
 
Hi..

Someone has suggested grass carp for the duckweed problem
on one of our
ponds.


Hm.., personally I've never had any grass carps but
goldfish, and goldfish are well known to eat duckweed..

Remember my aquariums and summer pond with goldfish without
any duckweed probs..

How big is the pond, how is it stocked and how is it
planted..?

But the general impression I get from the little I
read is that they grow to enormous sizes, are lake fish
and are banned in US because they
devastate lake vegetation.


Right..

Does anyone here have any
experience of these in UK and ponds, not lakes?


Me..? For heaven's sake - never..! :-)

--
cu
Marco, shivering..

Sacha 20-07-2007 04:44 PM

Grass carp
 
On 20/7/07 14:30, in article ,
"Steve Wolstenholme" wrote:
snip

There are lots of places that stock grass carp. Try Google. If the
pond still has a lot of weeds then maybe they weren't grass carp. It's
worth remembering that it is only the young grass carp that feed on
plants. Mature ones are a bit fussy. There is a few plants that grass
carp don't eat unless the are starving. They won't eat plants if
someone is feeding them. Grass carp are a boring silvery gray. Unlike
other carp their mouth tends to turn down.

Steve


This is very helpful, Steve and thank you so much. Yes, we're feeding the
fish in that pond twice a day so that would account for the amount of
oxygenating weed on there.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Les Hemmings 20-07-2007 10:05 PM

Grass carp
 
Sacha wrote:
Someone has suggested grass carp for the duckweed problem on one of
our ponds. But the general impression I get from the little I read
is that they grow to enormous sizes, are lake fish and are banned in
US because they devastate lake vegetation. Does anyone here have any
experience of these in UK and ponds, not lakes?


Train them to leave Wimbledon stripes...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8bt6K521o3Y

L :o)


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Remove Frontal Lobes to reply direct.

"These people believe the souls of fried space aliens inhabit their
bodies and hold soup cans to get rid of them. I should care what they
think?"...Valerie Emmanuel

Les Hemmings a.a #2251 SA




Sacha 20-07-2007 10:47 PM

Grass carp
 
On 20/7/07 22:05, in article , "Les
Hemmings" wrote:

Sacha wrote:
Someone has suggested grass carp for the duckweed problem on one of
our ponds. But the general impression I get from the little I read
is that they grow to enormous sizes, are lake fish and are banned in
US because they devastate lake vegetation. Does anyone here have any
experience of these in UK and ponds, not lakes?


Train them to leave Wimbledon stripes...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8bt6K521o3Y

L :o)


Fabulous!
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



BoyPete 21-07-2007 07:39 PM

Grass carp
 
Sacha wrote:
Someone has suggested grass carp for the duckweed problem on one of
our ponds. But the general impression I get from the little I read
is that they grow to enormous sizes, are lake fish and are banned in
US because they devastate lake vegetation. Does anyone here have any
experience of these in UK and ponds, not lakes?


Pop in here sacha..........
http://www.forums.pondlife.eu/forum/index.php

and ask. Very clever folk.
HTH :)
--
ßôyþëtë
London, UK




[email protected] 21-07-2007 07:56 PM

Grass carp
 
On Jul 21, 7:39 pm, "BoyPete" wrote:
Pop in here sacha..........http://www.forums.pondlife.eu/forum/index.php

and ask. Very clever folk.
HTH :)
--
ßôyþëtë


Aha, where have you been? and where are my Bluebell bulbs!!

Judith



Sacha 21-07-2007 10:45 PM

Grass carp
 
On 21/7/07 19:39, in article , "BoyPete"
wrote:

Sacha wrote:
Someone has suggested grass carp for the duckweed problem on one of
our ponds. But the general impression I get from the little I read
is that they grow to enormous sizes, are lake fish and are banned in
US because they devastate lake vegetation. Does anyone here have any
experience of these in UK and ponds, not lakes?


Pop in here sacha..........
http://www.forums.pondlife.eu/forum/index.php

and ask. Very clever folk.
HTH :)


I will and thank you. As long as I don't have to sign up to anything!
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'




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