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whats the cheapest way to preserve the topmost horizontal surfaces of some
old
garden tables? Things offered like linseed oil are just oil, so wouldnt a
thin
wipe of a much cheaper oil like sunflower oil be just as good?
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johngood_____ wrote:
whats the cheapest way to preserve the topmost horizontal surfaces
of some old
garden tables? Things offered like linseed oil are just oil, so
wouldnt a thin
wipe of a much cheaper oil like sunflower oil be just as good?
thanks for advice


It doesn't dry, does it? If you don't care about that just use your
used motor oil.

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On Aug 17, 12:16 pm, "johngood_____" wrote:
whats the cheapest way to preserve the topmost horizontal surfaces of some
old
garden tables? Things offered like linseed oil are just oil, so wouldnt a
thin
wipe of a much cheaper oil like sunflower oil be just as good?
thanks for advice


I bought 2x 500ml bottles of linseed oil from a local hardware store
for about €2.50 each last spring. Each bottle allows me to treat
generously my whole patio set - 1x1m diametre circular table and 4
chairs. I treated them twice this year, for just €5.00, and that's
probably it for the year. Is that really *so* expensive?

Cat(h)


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I bought 2x 500ml bottles of linseed oil from a local hardware store
for about =802.50 each last spring. Each bottle allows me to treat
generously my whole patio set - 1x1m diametre circular table and 4
chairs. I treated them twice this year, for just =805.00, and that's
probably it for the year. Is that really *so* expensive?

Cat(h)

Is there something wrong with your arithmatic?
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I bought 2x 500ml bottles of linseed oil from a local hardware store
for about =802.50 each last spring. Each bottle allows me to treat
generously my whole patio set - 1x1m diametre circular table and 4
chairs. I treated them twice this year, for just =805.00, and that's
probably it for the year. Is that really *so* expensive?

Cat(h)

Is there something wrong with your arithmatic?


Clearly your newsreader messed up, because I saw the pound sign where you
have got '=80'

And why so aggressive, when Cat has done nothing wrong, and isn't even at
fault for your newsreader?


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johngood_____ wrote:

whats the cheapest way to preserve the topmost horizontal surfaces of
some old garden tables? Things offered like linseed oil are just oil,
so wouldnt a thin wipe of a much cheaper oil like sunflower oil be
just as good? thanks for advice


Sunflower oil and other cooking type oils don't necessarily dry as
would boiled linseed oil (BLO). BLO has additional things in it,
besides just the oil, that allow it to dry/polymerize. While a can of
BLO is probably a little more expensive than a bottle of some type of
cooking oil, it's not that expensive.

You mention this finish is for some "old garden tables". If that
means these things will be outdoors, a finish like BLO alone is
probably not going to be enough to fully protect the piece from
water and sunlight. Realistically, if you want to protect/preserve
the piece(s) you should use a finish that is designed for outdoor
use and will help shed water and protect it from the UV rays of the
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 11:16:08 GMT, "johngood_____"
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whats the cheapest way to preserve the topmost horizontal surfaces of some
old
garden tables? Things offered like linseed oil are just oil, so wouldnt a
thin
wipe of a much cheaper oil like sunflower oil be just as good?
thanks for advice


Linseed oil isn't 'just oil'. In the paint industry it's known as a
'drying oil', which means that on exposure to air it oxidises and
polymerises to some degree, giving a hard finish. It used to be one of
the principal constituents in oil based paints and varnishes, although
these days synthetic equivalents are now commonly used.


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On Aug 17, 4:16 am, "johngood_____" wrote:
whats the cheapest way to preserve the topmost horizontal surfaces of some
old
garden tables? Things offered like linseed oil are just oil,


Actually, most wood-finish applications are not for simple linseed oil
(flax oil),
but rather for boiled linseed oil (which is a polymerizing finish,
guaranteed
to turn solid). If the wood looks 'dry' and weathered, you might
first
wire-brush to remove degraded fibers, then seal with boiled linseed
oil (BLO)
and follow up next day with a transparent stain (exterior stain, of
course).

BLO makes a relatively tough film, but it isn't hard and doesn't take
sunlight well. It does, IMHO, really improve the appearance of the
wood.

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On Aug 17, 4:16 am, "johngood_____" wrote:
whats the cheapest way to preserve the topmost horizontal surfaces of
some
old
garden tables? Things offered like linseed oil are just oil,


Actually, most wood-finish applications are not for simple linseed oil
(flax oil),
but rather for boiled linseed oil (which is a polymerizing finish,
guaranteed
to turn solid). If the wood looks 'dry' and weathered, you might
first
wire-brush to remove degraded fibers, then seal with boiled linseed
oil (BLO)
and follow up next day with a transparent stain (exterior stain, of
course).

BLO makes a relatively tough film, but it isn't hard and doesn't take
sunlight well. It does, IMHO, really improve the appearance of the
wood.


You get a better finish with BLO if you mix it 50/50 with natural turpentine
it does harden off much better than neat BLO and doesnt remain tacky for
very long.Its been the standard finish for gunstocks and oil finished
furniture and usually applied with a lint free cloth like a polish. There is
also another oil with similar properties called Tung oil though I've never
tried it myself.
Derek




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whats the cheapest way to preserve the topmost horizontal surfaces of some
old
garden tables? Things offered like linseed oil are just oil, so wouldnt
a thin
wipe of a much cheaper oil like sunflower oil be just as good?
thanks for advice


What is the furniture worth? Saving 50¢ and putting furniture at risk is
just stupid. Your body excretes oils so just rub your ass on the tables
every day until you get the desired patina. .


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I, too, am interested in looking into other methods of protecting garden
furniture because I have several benches, tables, and sheds scattered around
the garden and linseed oil and teak oil are quite expensive.

Luckily, I understand teak furniture, etc., doesn't need oiling (according
to Wikipedia, anyway) but that still leaves a lot to do.

Creosote, unfortunately, has been banned for use by householders since 30th
June 2003 and any creosote held by a householder had to be got rid of
(safely - not down a drain or the loo!!) by the end of June 2004. It's okay
to own a can of creosote, apparentally, but not to use it, so there doesn't
seem much point in owning it in the first place!

There were, locally in Sussex, a couple of years back, one or two
shops/stores who wouldn't admit to having it in stock but were willing to
sell me some! I did buy a couple of cans but they had so deteriorated that I
might just as well have painted the wood with water. Goodness knows how long
they had been in stock!

It's pity because I used to love creosoting my fence on a sunny day!

Regards,

John


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