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Sacha 28-08-2007 10:52 PM

Swallows
 
We saw a couple of dozen sitting on the wires as we went out to dinner
tonight. ;-(

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



[email protected] 28-08-2007 11:10 PM

Swallows
 
On Aug 28, 10:52 pm, Sacha wrote:
We saw a couple of dozen sitting on the wires as we went out to dinner
tonight. ;-(

--
Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'


Sacha, as you know I can't tell a swallow from an Amazon. I did
notice what I thought was a lovely swoopy bird last night, it was a
bat!

Judith


Sally Thompson 28-08-2007 11:14 PM

Swallows
 
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 22:52:39 +0100, Sacha wrote
(in article ) :

We saw a couple of dozen sitting on the wires as we went out to dinner
tonight. ;-(



Still around he two nests in the (cartshed) garage, and two broods raised
in each this year. Mind you, our cars have to stand out in the summer so the
cats can't use them as a ladder :-)



--
Sally in Shropshire, UK
Burne-Jones/William Morris window in Shropshire church with conservation
churchyard:
http://www.whitton-stmarys.org.uk



Hugh Jampton 28-08-2007 11:50 PM

Swallows
 
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 22:52:39 +0100, Sacha wrote:

We saw a couple of dozen sitting on the wires as we went out to dinner
tonight. ;-(


Yep ! Lots of them sitting on the wires here (Lincolnshire).

Soon be - Bah Humbug - I *hate* Christmas time I suppose :-(
--
Regards,

Hugh Jampton

Sacha 28-08-2007 11:59 PM

Swallows
 
On 28/8/07 23:10, in article
,
" wrote:

On Aug 28, 10:52 pm, Sacha wrote:
We saw a couple of dozen sitting on the wires as we went out to dinner
tonight. ;-(

--
Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'


Sacha, as you know I can't tell a swallow from an Amazon. I did
notice what I thought was a lovely swoopy bird last night, it was a
bat!

Judith


Here's my Pollyanna moment - tah dah! - you learned not to be frightened of
bats?!! Of course you did - do not disappoint me!
We spent a happy 30 minutes sitting in the garden on Saturday, under the
cedar tree with 3 excited little girls watching the bats feasting on flying
perils. Their interest and absorption was wonderful to see.
Bring on the bats! I wouldn't have the itchy bits on my feet and legs if I
had pet bats.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Sacha 29-08-2007 12:08 AM

Swallows
 
On 28/8/07 23:14, in article
, "Sally Thompson"
wrote:

On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 22:52:39 +0100, Sacha wrote
(in article ) :

We saw a couple of dozen sitting on the wires as we went out to dinner
tonight. ;-(



Still around he two nests in the (cartshed) garage, and two broods raised
in each this year. Mind you, our cars have to stand out in the summer so the
cats can't use them as a ladder :-)


'Ours', as in locally, seem to me to arrive late and leave early. They
never nest here but choose an area mere minutes away and among those is the
wall of my step daughter's house. But I know so little of their habits that
I could be in a real muddle as to their going or staying intentions. I just
feel that when we see them en masse, they're not going to be here a lot
longer. In a previous house, we had a cowshed with a dangling light flex.
The clever swallows built their nest on this and it was protected from all
predators, apparently. This went on for years. At my son's house, there is
a broad granite archway with oak beams across part of it. It's entirely
weatherproof and his grandfather set up a few of those fake nests. I've
known that house more than 30 years and those nests have never failed to be
inhabited and other swallows have built real ones beside them year upon
year. I really am going to have to find out a bit more about this. Every
year it both puzzles and intrigues me!

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



[email protected] 29-08-2007 12:40 AM

Swallows
 
On Aug 28, 11:59 pm, Sacha wrote:

Here's my Pollyanna moment - tah dah! - you learned not to be frightened of
bats?!! Of course you did - do not disappoint me!


No!!!!!!!!!!! My middle name is wuss.

Judith



Donna \(UK\) 29-08-2007 07:13 AM

Swallows
 

"Hugh Jampton" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 22:52:39 +0100, Sacha wrote:

We saw a couple of dozen sitting on the wires as we went out to dinner
tonight. ;-(


Yep ! Lots of them sitting on the wires here (Lincolnshire).

Soon be - Bah Humbug - I *hate* Christmas time I suppose :-(
--
Regards,

Hugh Jampton


I love christmas, BUT, I really love summer and we dont seem to have had
one... :( Feel like I have missed something...

Donna



'Mike' 29-08-2007 07:35 AM

Swallows
 


"Hugh Jampton" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 22:52:39 +0100, Sacha wrote:

We saw a couple of dozen sitting on the wires as we went out to dinner
tonight. ;-(


Yep ! Lots of them sitting on the wires here (Lincolnshire).

Soon be - Bah Humbug - I *hate* Christmas time I suppose :-(
--
Regards,

Hugh Jampton



Do what we are doing. Go away for Christmas and the New Year :-)

No Christmas Shopping, taking everyone with us. :-)

No decorations. We are cruising so the ship does all that :-)

No cooking. All done on board by professional chefs. :-)

Christmas Presents? Vouchers of the person's choice. Garden Vouchers. Book
Tokens, Argos, etc, etc Easy to pack, like in the Christmas Card :-))

Empty house over Christmas? No, we have friends from a different part of the
country to House Sit, Garden/Greenhouse sit and Pet Sit all in one go. 3
Bedrooms so they bring their family to the seaside for Christmas and the New
Year, all we have to do is make sure the Freezer is stocked, ..... not
tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo difficult :-)

We will get a tree in for them and put some decorations up but they have
said don't bother.

It's great to have friends :-)

Mike



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Sacha 29-08-2007 08:14 AM

Swallows
 
On 29/8/07 00:40, in article
,
" wrote:

On Aug 28, 11:59 pm, Sacha wrote:

Here's my Pollyanna moment - tah dah! - you learned not to be frightened of
bats?!! Of course you did - do not disappoint me!


No!!!!!!!!!!! My middle name is wuss.

Judith


Tchah!

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Sacha 29-08-2007 08:32 AM

Swallows
 
On 28/8/07 23:50, in article , "Hugh
Jampton" wrote:

On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 22:52:39 +0100, Sacha wrote:

We saw a couple of dozen sitting on the wires as we went out to dinner
tonight. ;-(


Yep ! Lots of them sitting on the wires here (Lincolnshire).

Soon be - Bah Humbug - I *hate* Christmas time I suppose :-(


I love Christmas and this year is the baby grand daughter's first, followed
almost immediately by her birthday, so it's even more special. We like to
go out and see what's blooming in the garden usually but will be away this
year so won't be able to do that. We'll do it on New Year's Day which is
another milestone we like to check out.
But it's been such a rotten summer that it seems too early for it to be
fading already.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Sally Thompson 29-08-2007 03:28 PM

Swallows
 
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 00:08:15 +0100, Sacha wrote
(in article ) :

On 28/8/07 23:14, in article
, "Sally Thompson"
wrote:

On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 22:52:39 +0100, Sacha wrote
(in article ) :

We saw a couple of dozen sitting on the wires as we went out to dinner
tonight. ;-(



Still around he two nests in the (cartshed) garage, and two broods
raised
in each this year. Mind you, our cars have to stand out in the summer so
the
cats can't use them as a ladder :-)


'Ours', as in locally, seem to me to arrive late and leave early. They
never nest here but choose an area mere minutes away and among those is the
wall of my step daughter's house. But I know so little of their habits that
I could be in a real muddle as to their going or staying intentions. I just
feel that when we see them en masse, they're not going to be here a lot
longer. In a previous house, we had a cowshed with a dangling light flex.
The clever swallows built their nest on this and it was protected from all
predators, apparently. This went on for years. At my son's house, there is
a broad granite archway with oak beams across part of it. It's entirely
weatherproof and his grandfather set up a few of those fake nests. I've
known that house more than 30 years and those nests have never failed to be
inhabited and other swallows have built real ones beside them year upon
year. I really am going to have to find out a bit more about this. Every
year it both puzzles and intrigues me!


Ours arrive about 21st April - we keep a record. The first year they
inspected but didn't build, and the second year we were privileged to
actually watch them build their nest, raise their young and watch the young
birds learning to fly. (We hid behind the trailer, which must have intrigued
the next-doors.) I have a wonderful photo of all the babies lined up along a
beam watching me - a bit Disney-like! The second year they used the same
nest, raised a brood and then to our surprise built a second nest and raised
a second brood in that. This year we have two pairs which each appear to
have raised two broods in the existing nests. We would be happy if they built
more nests, and it would be interesting to set up a few fake ones for them as
well. We have a pond as you know, and sometimes we hold our breath in the
summer if we are sitting there and they dive and swoop over the pond like an
aerial ballet, presumably both taking insects and drinking. While they are
building the nest, they dip into the pond for the water they need for the
nest.

Beats working for a living!



--
Sally in Shropshire, UK
Burne-Jones/William Morris window in Shropshire church with conservation
churchyard:
http://www.whitton-stmarys.org.uk



Sacha 29-08-2007 04:14 PM

Swallows
 
On 29/8/07 15:28, in article
, "Sally Thompson"
wrote:
snip

Ours arrive about 21st April - we keep a record. The first year they
inspected but didn't build, and the second year we were privileged to
actually watch them build their nest, raise their young and watch the young
birds learning to fly. (We hid behind the trailer, which must have intrigued
the next-doors.) I have a wonderful photo of all the babies lined up along a
beam watching me - a bit Disney-like! The second year they used the same
nest, raised a brood and then to our surprise built a second nest and raised
a second brood in that. This year we have two pairs which each appear to
have raised two broods in the existing nests. We would be happy if they built
more nests, and it would be interesting to set up a few fake ones for them as
well. We have a pond as you know, and sometimes we hold our breath in the
summer if we are sitting there and they dive and swoop over the pond like an
aerial ballet, presumably both taking insects and drinking. While they are
building the nest, they dip into the pond for the water they need for the
nest.

Beats working for a living!


You are lucky! Whatever it takes, we don't have it here, unfortunately.
Your description is so evocative.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Hugh Jampton 29-08-2007 09:44 PM

Swallows
 
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 08:32:56 +0100, Sacha wrote:

I love Christmas


Christmas will be like any other day in this house - dead miserable ! You
can spend pounds if you're not careful. Not one extra penny is leaving my
pocket I assure you. Upstairs with my mug of cocoa and my copy of Bleak
House !!!
--
Regards,

Hugh Jampton

Sacha 29-08-2007 10:44 PM

Swallows
 
On 29/8/07 21:44, in article ,
"Hugh Jampton" wrote:

On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 08:32:56 +0100, Sacha wrote:

I love Christmas


Christmas will be like any other day in this house - dead miserable ! You
can spend pounds if you're not careful. Not one extra penny is leaving my
pocket I assure you. Upstairs with my mug of cocoa and my copy of Bleak
House !!!


One lump of sea coal and a candle stub as a treat?

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Sacha 30-08-2007 10:59 PM

Swallows
 
On 30/8/07 22:45, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 22:10:39 -0000, "
wrote:

On Aug 28, 10:52 pm, Sacha wrote:
We saw a couple of dozen sitting on the wires as we went out to dinner
tonight. ;-(

--
Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'


Sacha, as you know I can't tell a swallow from an Amazon. I did
notice what I thought was a lovely swoopy bird last night, it was a
bat!


Are you confusing Amazons with tits?


Swallows and...? But as a consolation prize, one of the girls was
called.....? I did love those books - still do. I bought some for the
grand daughter recently.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Kate Morgan 31-08-2007 11:33 AM

Swallows
 
snipped book stuff :-)

About half of our swallows have gone but there still plenty here in
Gloucestershire, including one nest that contains some newly hatched very
noisy little souls.

kate


Sacha 31-08-2007 11:47 AM

Swallows
 
On 31/8/07 11:33, in article , "Kate
Morgan" wrote:

snipped book stuff :-)

About half of our swallows have gone but there still plenty here in
Gloucestershire, including one nest that contains some newly hatched very
noisy little souls.

kate


Is that usual for your area? Or do you think the weather has affected them?
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Kate Morgan 31-08-2007 01:25 PM

Swallows
 
It is usual for us Sacha, we have lived here about 10 years, and for the
first year we did not have any swallows but as soon as the stable block was
built the word went round the swallow world and they moved in :-) They come
in the middle of April and the last lot leave late Sept. The weather does
not seem to have affected them one bit, all the nests had about 4/5 babes in
them and this is the first year we haven't spent climbing ladders putting
them back in when they fall out :-)

kate


"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
On 31/8/07 11:33, in article , "Kate
Morgan" wrote:

snipped book stuff :-)

About half of our swallows have gone but there still plenty here in
Gloucestershire, including one nest that contains some newly hatched very
noisy little souls.

kate


Is that usual for your area? Or do you think the weather has affected
them?
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'




Sacha 31-08-2007 03:36 PM

Swallows
 
On 31/8/07 13:25, in article , "Kate
Morgan" wrote:

It is usual for us Sacha, we have lived here about 10 years, and for the
first year we did not have any swallows but as soon as the stable block was
built the word went round the swallow world and they moved in :-) They come
in the middle of April and the last lot leave late Sept. The weather does
not seem to have affected them one bit, all the nests had about 4/5 babes in
them and this is the first year we haven't spent climbing ladders putting
them back in when they fall out :-)

snip

I'm green with envy. I *told* Ray we should have a pony and a donkey for
the grandchildren. ;-)

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Charlie Pridham[_2_] 31-08-2007 07:35 PM

Swallows
 

"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
On 31/8/07 13:25, in article , "Kate
Morgan" wrote:

It is usual for us Sacha, we have lived here about 10 years, and for the
first year we did not have any swallows but as soon as the stable block

was
built the word went round the swallow world and they moved in :-) They

come
in the middle of April and the last lot leave late Sept. The weather

does
not seem to have affected them one bit, all the nests had about 4/5

babes in
them and this is the first year we haven't spent climbing ladders

putting
them back in when they fall out :-)

snip

I'm green with envy. I *told* Ray we should have a pony and a donkey for
the grandchildren. ;-)

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

That's until like me today you fetch out of the barn the scaffold tower and
get covered in swallow poo!

--
Charlie, Gardening in Cornwall
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National collections of Clematis viticella
and Lapageria rosea cultivars



Kate Morgan 31-08-2007 09:17 PM

Swallows
 
Oh yes indeedy they are very messy little birds, even the pony gets poo`d on
:-)

kate



"Charlie Pridham" wrote in message
...

"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
On 31/8/07 13:25, in article , "Kate
Morgan" wrote:

It is usual for us Sacha, we have lived here about 10 years, and for
the
first year we did not have any swallows but as soon as the stable block

was
built the word went round the swallow world and they moved in :-) They

come
in the middle of April and the last lot leave late Sept. The weather

does
not seem to have affected them one bit, all the nests had about 4/5

babes in
them and this is the first year we haven't spent climbing ladders

putting
them back in when they fall out :-)

snip

I'm green with envy. I *told* Ray we should have a pony and a donkey for
the grandchildren. ;-)

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

That's until like me today you fetch out of the barn the scaffold tower
and
get covered in swallow poo!

--
Charlie, Gardening in Cornwall
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National collections of Clematis viticella
and Lapageria rosea cultivars




Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\) 01-09-2007 09:07 AM

Swallows
 

"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
snip

I'm green with envy. I *told* Ray we should have a pony and a donkey for
the grandchildren. ;-)

Is that a fair swop?

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'





Sacha 01-09-2007 10:14 AM

Swallows
 
On 1/9/07 09:07, in article , "Rupert (W.Yorkshire)"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
snip

I'm green with envy. I *told* Ray we should have a pony and a donkey for
the grandchildren. ;-)

Is that a fair swop?


Oh, cute, very, very cute. I love donkeys..........tricky question! ;-)

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Sacha 01-09-2007 10:15 AM

Swallows
 
On 1/9/07 09:45, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 09:07:39 +0100, "Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\)"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
snip

I'm green with envy. I *told* Ray we should have a pony and a donkey for
the grandchildren. ;-)

Is that a fair swop?


I think so. Have grandchild, willing to swap for pony and trap.


I don't believe you. Not for a millisecond.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Kate Morgan 01-09-2007 10:21 AM

Swallows
 

I'm green with envy. I *told* Ray we should have a pony and a donkey
for
the grandchildren. ;-)

Is that a fair swop?


Oh, cute, very, very cute. I love donkeys..........tricky question! ;-)

--
Sacha



Have you got a nice hunky farrier who lives nearby :-)

kate


Winsford 01-09-2007 11:12 AM

My favourite birds in the gardens. I shall miss their excited squeeky/chirpy chatter when they go - usually around the 20th of Sept - but who knows with this crazy summer we're having. The garden goes ever so quiet when they leave.

'My pairs' are frantically feeding their third clutches now. I always wonder if this last clutch ever gets to South Africa first time around, as I suspect they hole up in Morocco or some place for their first winter and then link up with their older brothers and sisters upon their return the following April. Who knows?

Sally Thompson 01-09-2007 11:19 AM

Swallows
 
On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 10:25:46 +0100, Martin wrote
(in article ):

On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 10:15:07 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

On 1/9/07 09:45, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 09:07:39 +0100, "Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\)"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
snip

I'm green with envy. I *told* Ray we should have a pony and a donkey for
the grandchildren. ;-)

Is that a fair swop?

I think so. Have grandchild, willing to swap for pony and trap.


I don't believe you. Not for a millisecond.


Of course, the parents would have to agree.


Of the pony?


--
Sally in Shropshire, UK
Burne-Jones/William Morris window in Shropshire church with conservation
churchyard:
http://www.whitton-stmarys.org.uk



Sacha 01-09-2007 03:01 PM

Swallows
 
On 31/8/07 19:35, in article , "Charlie
Pridham" wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
On 31/8/07 13:25, in article
, "Kate
Morgan" wrote:

It is usual for us Sacha, we have lived here about 10 years, and for the
first year we did not have any swallows but as soon as the stable block

was
built the word went round the swallow world and they moved in :-) They

come
in the middle of April and the last lot leave late Sept. The weather

does
not seem to have affected them one bit, all the nests had about 4/5

babes in
them and this is the first year we haven't spent climbing ladders

putting
them back in when they fall out :-)

snip

I'm green with envy. I *told* Ray we should have a pony and a donkey for
the grandchildren. ;-)



That's until like me today you fetch out of the barn the scaffold tower and
get covered in swallow poo!


There's always a price to be paid. ;-))

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Sacha 01-09-2007 03:02 PM

Swallows
 
On 1/9/07 10:21, in article , "Kate
Morgan" wrote:


I'm green with envy. I *told* Ray we should have a pony and a donkey
for
the grandchildren. ;-)

Is that a fair swop?


Oh, cute, very, very cute. I love donkeys..........tricky question! ;-)

--
Sacha



Have you got a nice hunky farrier who lives nearby :-)

kate

I don't think so - goodness me, you wicked woman! ;-))

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Sacha 01-09-2007 03:03 PM

Swallows
 
On 1/9/07 10:25, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 10:15:07 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

On 1/9/07 09:45, in article
,
"Martin" wrote:

On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 09:07:39 +0100, "Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\)"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
snip

I'm green with envy. I *told* Ray we should have a pony and a donkey for
the grandchildren. ;-)

Is that a fair swop?

I think so. Have grandchild, willing to swap for pony and trap.


I don't believe you. Not for a millisecond.


Of course, the parents would have to agree.


Catch 'em after a bad night and you never know!

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Sacha 01-09-2007 04:57 PM

Swallows
 
On 1/9/07 16:54, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 15:03:18 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

On 1/9/07 10:25, in article
,
"Martin" wrote:

On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 10:15:07 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

On 1/9/07 09:45, in article
,
"Martin" wrote:

On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 09:07:39 +0100, "Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\)"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
snip

I'm green with envy. I *told* Ray we should have a pony and a donkey
for
the grandchildren. ;-)

Is that a fair swop?

I think so. Have grandchild, willing to swap for pony and trap.

I don't believe you. Not for a millisecond.

Of course, the parents would have to agree.


Catch 'em after a bad night and you never know!


They have had bad nights ever since he was born. ATM I guess they'd take the
pony and trap and get down to making another one.


Babies haven't read the books. My youngest grandchild went out like a light
every night once her parents were persuaded to give her a tiny bit of solid
food, rather than just milk. Nobody told *her* she shouldn't have it, so
she loved it. ;-) Of course, then she started teething.......
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Sacha 01-09-2007 06:24 PM

Swallows
 
On 1/9/07 17:45, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 16:57:38 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

On 1/9/07 16:54, in article
,
"Martin" wrote:

On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 15:03:18 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

On 1/9/07 10:25, in article
,
"Martin" wrote:

On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 10:15:07 +0100, Sacha

wrote:

On 1/9/07 09:45, in article
,
"Martin" wrote:

On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 09:07:39 +0100, "Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\)"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
snip

I'm green with envy. I *told* Ray we should have a pony and a donkey
for
the grandchildren. ;-)

Is that a fair swop?

I think so. Have grandchild, willing to swap for pony and trap.

I don't believe you. Not for a millisecond.

Of course, the parents would have to agree.

Catch 'em after a bad night and you never know!

They have had bad nights ever since he was born. ATM I guess they'd take the
pony and trap and get down to making another one.


Babies haven't read the books. My youngest grandchild went out like a light
every night once her parents were persuaded to give her a tiny bit of solid
food, rather than just milk.


I knew a Polish woman who chewed sauerkraut and then fed it to her baby. I
don't
know if that is the norm in Poland.


I don't know about Poland specifically but it was the norm to chew food and
give it to babies, long before baby mush was invented in sterile jars!

Nobody told *her* she shouldn't have it, so
she loved it. ;-) Of course, then she started teething.......


They haven't thought of teething yet - luckily :-)


No, this one's a bit precocious on that and making heavy weather of it.


--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Sacha 01-09-2007 11:03 PM

Swallows
 
On 1/9/07 21:06, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 18:24:08 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

On 1/9/07 17:45, in article
,
"Martin" wrote:

On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 16:57:38 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

On 1/9/07 16:54, in article
,
"Martin" wrote:

On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 15:03:18 +0100, Sacha

wrote:

On 1/9/07 10:25, in article
,
"Martin" wrote:

On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 10:15:07 +0100, Sacha

wrote:

On 1/9/07 09:45, in article
,
"Martin" wrote:

On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 09:07:39 +0100, "Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\)"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
snip

I'm green with envy. I *told* Ray we should have a pony and a
donkey
for
the grandchildren. ;-)

Is that a fair swop?

I think so. Have grandchild, willing to swap for pony and trap.

I don't believe you. Not for a millisecond.

Of course, the parents would have to agree.

Catch 'em after a bad night and you never know!

They have had bad nights ever since he was born. ATM I guess they'd take
the
pony and trap and get down to making another one.

Babies haven't read the books. My youngest grandchild went out like a
light
every night once her parents were persuaded to give her a tiny bit of solid
food, rather than just milk.

I knew a Polish woman who chewed sauerkraut and then fed it to her baby. I
don't
know if that is the norm in Poland.


I don't know about Poland specifically but it was the norm to chew food and
give it to babies, long before baby mush was invented in sterile jars!


but sauerkraut. Can you imagine the wind it causes?


Unhappily, yes! But if it's pre-chewed and thus partially digested, perhaps
it rids the sauerkraut of some of its more explosive properties. They
*must* have worked that out over the years or there would be generations of
agonised babies.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Sacha 02-09-2007 10:36 AM

Swallows
 
On 2/9/07 10:03, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:
snip

My son has an agonised baby without feeding it sauerkraut. Maybe a pre-chewed
Indian take away is the solution, after all isn't that what Indian babies are
fed?


Dummies work well on colicky babies. I've no idea why but the sucking seems
to relieve them. I suspect Indian babies are fed on 'cooked at home' not
'take away' .;-)

For those who believe you can't grow edible sweet corn in Northern Europe for
the nth year running we have a bumper crop. They are so much better than
supermarket ones.


I didn't realise it was thought you couldn't grow it here. Is it a totally
different strain to that grown for cattle fodder?

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'




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