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Sacha 07-09-2007 11:11 AM

OT speaking of mozzies
 
Is there a consensus of opinion on the best anti-mozzie spray? I'd love to
have some surefire ideas before we head off to Turkey. ;-)

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



'Mike' 07-09-2007 11:19 AM

OT speaking of mozzies
 


"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
Is there a consensus of opinion on the best anti-mozzie spray? I'd love
to
have some surefire ideas before we head off to Turkey. ;-)

--
Sacha



When we went on our World Cruise, because of where we were visiting we took
"Jungle Formula Insect Repellent" Available from Boots all the year round
because of travellers and available in Spray, Pump Action Spray and what we
found very handy, Handy Wipes.

If it's only Turkey, this stuff will do fine. We have been there at the
height of Summer so you will have no trouble

Mike


--
www.rneba.org.uk for the latest pictures of the very first reunion and
Inaugural General Meeting. Nothing less than a fantastic success.
The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association.
'THE' Association if you served in the Electrical Branch of the Royal Navy
www.rneba.org.uk to find your ex-Greenie mess mates
www.iowtours.com for all ex-Service Reunions. More being added regularly
"Navy Days" Portsmouth 25th - 27th July 2008. RN Shipmates will have a Stand




Sacha 07-09-2007 11:35 AM

OT speaking of mozzies
 
On 7/9/07 11:19, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:11:17 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

Is there a consensus of opinion on the best anti-mozzie spray? I'd love to
have some surefire ideas before we head off to Turkey. ;-)


We used a DEET based insect repellant last year in Turkey.
It worked very well, in two weeks neither of us were bitten by anything.
We've used the same one in French Guiana and Australia. We weren't bitten
there
either.
It needs to be at least 50% content to work.


Thanks, Martin. I remember buying something called 'OFF' in Fethiye years
ago but can't remember its ingredients. I'll do some research based on the
DEET info. I've never stayed in a hotel in Turkey, having only sailed there
3 or 4 times and at sea you don't get the problem so much. Mind you, in
harbour..........! I can still smell those Tiger coils! ;-(
We're going to be near the Dalyan estuary and have been warned that mozzies
can be a problem there, especially in the evening and they really feast on
me, so I'd rather be prepared in advance.


--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Uncle Marvo 07-09-2007 11:41 AM

OT speaking of mozzies
 
In reply to Sacha ) who wrote this in
, I, Marvo, say :

Is there a consensus of opinion on the best anti-mozzie spray? I'd
love to have some surefire ideas before we head off to Turkey. ;-)


There are two sorts, one masks your smell, the other deters them; the latter
kind are usually poisonious to some degree and can cause rashes and
irritation, and usually contain DEET. It only affects a small proportion of
users.

I went to Turkey this year and had no mossie spray and didn't get bitten
once. I suspect the Turks smell stronger than I.

If you're by the sea they probably won't bother you anyway, it's not their
ideal habitat. They like ponds and rivers and long grass, basically warm and
damp. They can't survive with no shade in extremely hot temperatures, and
last time I looked Turkey was like the fires of hell.

I don't believe that Turkish mossies carry anything dodgy, like malaria, so
the worst you'll get is a bite and an itch.

Don't forget to go to Efes if you haven't been already :-)



cupra 07-09-2007 11:51 AM

OT speaking of mozzies
 
Sacha wrote:
On 7/9/07 11:19, in article
, "Martin"
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:11:17 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

Is there a consensus of opinion on the best anti-mozzie spray? I'd
love to have some surefire ideas before we head off to Turkey. ;-)


We used a DEET based insect repellant last year in Turkey.
It worked very well, in two weeks neither of us were bitten by
anything. We've used the same one in French Guiana and Australia. We
weren't bitten there
either.
It needs to be at least 50% content to work.


Thanks, Martin. I remember buying something called 'OFF' in Fethiye
years ago but can't remember its ingredients. I'll do some research
based on the DEET info. I've never stayed in a hotel in Turkey,
having only sailed there 3 or 4 times and at sea you don't get the
problem so much. Mind you, in harbour..........! I can still smell
those Tiger coils! ;-(
We're going to be near the Dalyan estuary and have been warned that
mozzies can be a problem there, especially in the evening and they
really feast on me, so I'd rather be prepared in advance.


Just don't trust DEET 100% - I used in Bangladesh a few years back and
*still* got bites!



Steve Wolstenholme 07-09-2007 11:52 AM

OT speaking of mozzies
 
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:11:17 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

Is there a consensus of opinion on the best anti-mozzie spray? I'd love to
have some surefire ideas before we head off to Turkey. ;-)


Rub on some of the C.medica that you have grown! That should work
because anything that smells different to the mozzies usual target
repels them.

Steve


'Mike' 07-09-2007 11:55 AM

OT speaking of mozzies
 


"Uncle Marvo" wrote in message
...
In reply to Sacha ) who wrote this in
, I, Marvo, say :

Is there a consensus of opinion on the best anti-mozzie spray? I'd
love to have some surefire ideas before we head off to Turkey. ;-)


There are two sorts, one masks your smell, the other deters them; the
latter kind are usually poisonious to some degree and can cause rashes and
irritation, and usually contain DEET. It only affects a small proportion
of users.

I went to Turkey this year and had no mossie spray and didn't get bitten
once. I suspect the Turks smell stronger than I.

If you're by the sea they probably won't bother you anyway, it's not their
ideal habitat. They like ponds and rivers and long grass, basically warm
and damp. They can't survive with no shade in extremely hot temperatures,
and last time I looked Turkey was like the fires of hell.

I don't believe that Turkish mossies carry anything dodgy, like malaria,
so the worst you'll get is a bite and an itch.

Don't forget to go to Efes if you haven't been already :-)


Isn't that a wonderful place? A 'not to be missed' place :-)) We were there
last year :-)

The spray/wipes I recommended are superb and the wipes fit into a handbag so
easily and are so simple to use.

Mike


--
www.rneba.org.uk for the latest pictures of the very first reunion and
Inaugural General Meeting. Nothing less than a fantastic success.
The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association.
'THE' Association if you served in the Electrical Branch of the Royal Navy
www.rneba.org.uk to find your ex-Greenie mess mates
www.iowtours.com for all ex-Service Reunions. More being added regularly
"Navy Days" Portsmouth 25th - 27th July 2008. RN Shipmates will have a Stand








Sacha 07-09-2007 11:59 AM

OT speaking of mozzies
 
On 7/9/07 11:41, in article , "Uncle Marvo"
wrote:

In reply to Sacha ) who wrote this in
, I, Marvo, say :

Is there a consensus of opinion on the best anti-mozzie spray? I'd
love to have some surefire ideas before we head off to Turkey. ;-)


There are two sorts, one masks your smell, the other deters them; the latter
kind are usually poisonious to some degree and can cause rashes and
irritation, and usually contain DEET. It only affects a small proportion of
users.


Oh dear and Martin has just told me how good it is! I need something to
deter them I think because they really go for me. I've never found
citronella sprays etc. any good, though I know others swear by them.

I went to Turkey this year and had no mossie spray and didn't get bitten
once. I suspect the Turks smell stronger than I.

If you're by the sea they probably won't bother you anyway, it's not their
ideal habitat. They like ponds and rivers and long grass, basically warm and
damp. They can't survive with no shade in extremely hot temperatures, and
last time I looked Turkey was like the fires of hell.


That's precisely the problem. We're going to Dalyan which is on an estuary
and friends, who have a villa there, have warned us that mozzies can be a
problem.

I don't believe that Turkish mossies carry anything dodgy, like malaria, so
the worst you'll get is a bite and an itch.


They don't now. First time I sailed there back in 1989 or so, we were told
to take malaria tablets and duly started the course before going. We
boarded the coach to take us from the airport to our yachts and the guide
asked if we had all been good and taken our tabs. We all chorused 'yes' and
she said "oh good, well you can stop right now because there hasn't been a
case of malaria here for X years"! ;-)

Don't forget to go to Efes if you haven't been already :-)


I've been, Ray hasn't. I hope we're going to get there because it's
*superb*. Did you see what the guide boasts is the oldest advertisement in
the world? ;-) And Fethiye market and Goçek and Cleopatra's Bath etc. etc.
It's a wonderful area.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



'Mike' 07-09-2007 12:03 PM

OT speaking of mozzies
 




"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
On 7/9/07 11:41, in article , "Uncle
Marvo"
wrote:

In reply to Sacha ) who wrote this in
, I, Marvo, say :

Is there a consensus of opinion on the best anti-mozzie spray? I'd
love to have some surefire ideas before we head off to Turkey. ;-)


There are two sorts, one masks your smell, the other deters them; the
latter
kind are usually poisonious to some degree and can cause rashes and
irritation, and usually contain DEET. It only affects a small proportion
of
users.


Oh dear and Martin has just told me how good it is! I need something to
deter them I think because they really go for me. I've never found
citronella sprays etc. any good, though I know others swear by them.



I wonder if someone would like to point out my posting to Sacha. I am well
aware that she doesn't wish to correspond or reply to me, but I feel sure
that even she wouldn't shun a perfectly good mossy spray/wipe just because I
recommended it.

Or would she?

:-((

When we went on our World Cruise, because of where we were visiting we took
"Jungle Formula Insect Repellent" Available from Boots all the year round
because of travellers and available in Spray, Pump Action Spray and what we
found very handy, Handy Wipes.

If it's only Turkey, this stuff will do fine. We have been there at the
height of Summer so you will have no trouble

Mike


--
www.rneba.org.uk for the latest pictures of the very first reunion and
Inaugural General Meeting. Nothing less than a fantastic success.
The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association.
'THE' Association if you served in the Electrical Branch of the Royal Navy
www.rneba.org.uk to find your ex-Greenie mess mates
www.iowtours.com for all ex-Service Reunions. More being added regularly
"Navy Days" Portsmouth 25th - 27th July 2008. RN Shipmates will have a Stand



Sacha 07-09-2007 12:07 PM

OT speaking of mozzies
 
On 7/9/07 11:52, in article ,
"Steve Wolstenholme" wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:11:17 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

Is there a consensus of opinion on the best anti-mozzie spray? I'd love to
have some surefire ideas before we head off to Turkey. ;-)


Rub on some of the C.medica that you have grown! That should work
because anything that smells different to the mozzies usual target
repels them.

Steve


Now there's a thought. I can just see myself lugging one of those through
customs. ;-))
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Uncle Marvo 07-09-2007 12:25 PM

OT speaking of mozzies
 
In reply to Sacha ) who wrote this in
, I, Marvo, say :

That's precisely the problem. We're going to Dalyan which is on an
estuary and friends, who have a villa there, have warned us that
mozzies can be a problem.

If you are worried about indoors, definitely take an electric gizmo which
plugs in, with the right adapter, and the tablets to fuel it. Bear in mind
that the gizmo HAS to be the right way up, with the tablet at the top. On
some foreign plug'oles the pins are vertical rather than horizontal and then
it is impossible to get it the right way. I have two adapters which put it
at right angles. The foreign ones are two-pin so it can then go either way
"up".

For outdoors, DEET definitely works, it is a good deterrent. Try some before
you go and if you get itchy or develop a rash, use something else. Anything
which disguises your delicious "I am food" smell does the job, even some
suntan oils. Sweat is the big attracter, and, as women don't sweat, I'm
surprise they ever get bitten!

Even vinegar works.

You're actually more likely to get bitten by other things than mossies.
There are horseflies in Turkey (and probably everwhere else).

I don't believe that Turkish mossies carry anything dodgy, like
malaria, so the worst you'll get is a bite and an itch.


They don't now. First time I sailed there back in 1989 or so, we
were told to take malaria tablets and duly started the course before
going. We boarded the coach to take us from the airport to our
yachts and the guide asked if we had all been good and taken our
tabs. We all chorused 'yes' and she said "oh good, well you can stop
right now because there hasn't been a case of malaria here for X
years"! ;-)

Take plenty of quinine tonic water, liberally mixed with gin! Most modern
stuff has no quinine in it, get the proper one. Just in case. It won't help
the malaria, but you won't care.

Don't forget to go to Efes if you haven't been already :-)


I've been, Ray hasn't. I hope we're going to get there because it's
*superb*. Did you see what the guide boasts is the oldest
advertisement in the world? ;-) And Fethiye market and Goçek and
Cleopatra's Bath etc. etc. It's a wonderful area.


I translated the advert as "Romans go home" :-)






Uncle Marvo 07-09-2007 12:26 PM

OT speaking of mozzies
 
In reply to Steve Wolstenholme ) who wrote this
in , I, Marvo, say :

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:11:17 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

Is there a consensus of opinion on the best anti-mozzie spray? I'd
love to have some surefire ideas before we head off to Turkey. ;-)


Rub on some of the C.medica that you have grown! That should work
because anything that smells different to the mozzies usual target
repels them.

Exactly. Lavender (as Helene says) is also a good one. Try to position
yourself near a natural-smelling Turk, if at all possible.



Sacha 07-09-2007 12:32 PM

OT speaking of mozzies
 
On 7/9/07 12:25, in article , "Uncle Marvo"
wrote:

In reply to Sacha ) who wrote this in
, I, Marvo, say :

That's precisely the problem. We're going to Dalyan which is on an
estuary and friends, who have a villa there, have warned us that
mozzies can be a problem.

If you are worried about indoors, definitely take an electric gizmo which
plugs in, with the right adapter, and the tablets to fuel it. Bear in mind
that the gizmo HAS to be the right way up, with the tablet at the top. On
some foreign plug'oles the pins are vertical rather than horizontal and then
it is impossible to get it the right way. I have two adapters which put it
at right angles. The foreign ones are two-pin so it can then go either way
"up".


Yes, we've got one of those and two or three adaptors. I'll get some more
tablets. As the hotel is air-conditioned, I hope it won't be a problem -
it's more sitting outside to have a drink etc.

For outdoors, DEET definitely works, it is a good deterrent. Try some before
you go and if you get itchy or develop a rash, use something else. Anything
which disguises your delicious "I am food" smell does the job, even some
suntan oils. Sweat is the big attracter, and, as women don't sweat, I'm
surprise they ever get bitten!


I think in that heat there'll be a bit more than the 'gently glowing' going
on!

Even vinegar works.


Oh lovely. I'll just open a chip shop and be done with it!

You're actually more likely to get bitten by other things than mossies.
There are horseflies in Turkey (and probably everwhere else).

I don't believe that Turkish mossies carry anything dodgy, like
malaria, so the worst you'll get is a bite and an itch.


They don't now. First time I sailed there back in 1989 or so, we
were told to take malaria tablets and duly started the course before
going. We boarded the coach to take us from the airport to our
yachts and the guide asked if we had all been good and taken our
tabs. We all chorused 'yes' and she said "oh good, well you can stop
right now because there hasn't been a case of malaria here for X
years"! ;-)

Take plenty of quinine tonic water, liberally mixed with gin! Most modern
stuff has no quinine in it, get the proper one. Just in case. It won't help
the malaria, but you won't care.

Don't forget to go to Efes if you haven't been already :-)


I've been, Ray hasn't. I hope we're going to get there because it's
*superb*. Did you see what the guide boasts is the oldest
advertisement in the world? ;-) And Fethiye market and Goçek and
Cleopatra's Bath etc. etc. It's a wonderful area.


I translated the advert as "Romans go home" :-)

I thought it was rather more "Romans come hither"! ;-)


--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Sacha 07-09-2007 12:33 PM

OT speaking of mozzies
 
On 7/9/07 12:26, in article , "Uncle Marvo"
wrote:

In reply to Steve Wolstenholme ) who wrote this
in
, I, Marvo, say :

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:11:17 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

Is there a consensus of opinion on the best anti-mozzie spray? I'd
love to have some surefire ideas before we head off to Turkey. ;-)


Rub on some of the C.medica that you have grown! That should work
because anything that smells different to the mozzies usual target
repels them.

Exactly. Lavender (as Helene says) is also a good one. Try to position
yourself near a natural-smelling Turk, if at all possible.


I could try lavender because I've got some of those Tisserand roller cap
bottles (wonderful for headaches and refreshment in this weather) I'll
remember to pack those!

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



'Mike' 07-09-2007 01:26 PM

OT speaking of mozzies
 





"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...

As the hotel is air-conditioned, I hope it won't be a problem -
it's more sitting outside to have a drink etc.



"Jungle Formula Insect Repellent" Handy Wipes.


:-))

Mike

--
www.rneba.org.uk for the latest pictures of the very first reunion and
Inaugural General Meeting. Nothing less than a fantastic success.
The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association.
'THE' Association if you served in the Electrical Branch of the Royal Navy
www.rneba.org.uk to find your ex-Greenie mess mates
www.iowtours.com for all ex-Service Reunions. More being added regularly
"Navy Days" Portsmouth 25th - 27th July 2008. RN Shipmates will have a Stand



Bob Hobden 07-09-2007 01:59 PM

OT speaking of mozzies
 

"Sacha" wrote ...
Is there a consensus of opinion on the best anti-mozzie spray? I'd love
to
have some surefire ideas before we head off to Turkey. ;-)


Any formula with a high percentage of DEET (50%+) will be OK, some of the
online outdoor co's do excellent stuff for serious outdoor travel...
http://www.snowandrock.com/shop/acti...ect_repellents

Don't get it on your synthetic clothes or on any plastics, it's that
powerful!

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
17mls W. of London.UK



Sacha 07-09-2007 04:23 PM

OT speaking of mozzies
 
On 7/9/07 13:59, in article , "Bob Hobden"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote ...
Is there a consensus of opinion on the best anti-mozzie spray? I'd love
to
have some surefire ideas before we head off to Turkey. ;-)


Any formula with a high percentage of DEET (50%+) will be OK, some of the
online outdoor co's do excellent stuff for serious outdoor travel...
http://www.snowandrock.com/shop/acti...ect_repellents

Don't get it on your synthetic clothes or on any plastics, it's that
powerful!


Urrrgh! Thanks Bob - it sounds terrifying!
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



graham 07-09-2007 04:36 PM

OT speaking of mozzies
 

"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
Is there a consensus of opinion on the best anti-mozzie spray? I'd love
to
have some surefire ideas before we head off to Turkey. ;-)

As many here have recommended Deet, including Mike, there's no need to
recommend it further.
In addition to the usual biters, we now have to worry about West Nile Virus
which has arrived here in the last couple of years or so, carried by one
species of mozzie. I have been working outside a lot this summer,
landscaping, establishing a freshly sodded lawn and building a retaining
wall. However, I hate spraying my skin with Deet (I also hate sunscreens
but they are a necessary evil) so I sprayed my Tilley hat and long-sleeved
t-shirt with a few squirts and it seems to have worked.
Graham



'Mike' 07-09-2007 04:38 PM

OT speaking of mozzies
 

Don't get it on your synthetic clothes or on any plastics, it's that
powerful!


Urrrgh! Thanks Bob - it sounds terrifying!
--
Sacha



No problem with :-----

When we went on our World Cruise, because of where we were visiting we took
"Jungle Formula Insect Repellent" Available from Boots all the year round
because of travellers and available in Spray, Pump Action Spray and what we
found very handy, Handy Wipes.

If it's only Turkey, this stuff will do fine. We have been there at the
height of Summer so you will have no trouble

Mike


--
www.rneba.org.uk for the latest pictures of the very first reunion and
Inaugural General Meeting. Nothing less than a fantastic success.
The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association.
'THE' Association if you served in the Electrical Branch of the Royal Navy
www.rneba.org.uk to find your ex-Greenie mess mates
www.iowtours.com for all ex-Service Reunions. More being added regularly
"Navy Days" Portsmouth 25th - 27th July 2008. RN Shipmates will have a Stand



Sacha 07-09-2007 04:38 PM

OT speaking of mozzies
 
On 7/9/07 16:36, in article AdeEi.135655$fJ5.41641@pd7urf1no, "graham"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
Is there a consensus of opinion on the best anti-mozzie spray? I'd love
to
have some surefire ideas before we head off to Turkey. ;-)

As many here have recommended Deet, including Mike, there's no need to
recommend it further.
In addition to the usual biters, we now have to worry about West Nile Virus
which has arrived here in the last couple of years or so, carried by one
species of mozzie. I have been working outside a lot this summer,
landscaping, establishing a freshly sodded lawn and building a retaining
wall. However, I hate spraying my skin with Deet (I also hate sunscreens
but they are a necessary evil) so I sprayed my Tilley hat and long-sleeved
t-shirt with a few squirts and it seems to have worked.
Graham



As long as you're wearing natural fabrics, according to Bob! But I'm with
you - I really hate gunk on my skin but I dislike mozzie bites even more.
;-(
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



'Mike' 07-09-2007 04:41 PM

OT speaking of mozzies
 

I really hate gunk on my skin but I dislike mozzie bites even more.
;-(
--
Sacha


No problem with :-----

"Jungle Formula Insect Repellent" Handy Wipes. :-)))

Kindest possible regards

Mike




--
www.rneba.org.uk for the latest pictures of the very first reunion and
Inaugural General Meeting. Nothing less than a fantastic success.
The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association.
'THE' Association if you served in the Electrical Branch of the Royal Navy
www.rneba.org.uk to find your ex-Greenie mess mates
www.iowtours.com for all ex-Service Reunions. More being added regularly
"Navy Days" Portsmouth 25th - 27th July 2008. RN Shipmates will have a Stand



Bob Hobden 07-09-2007 05:34 PM

OT speaking of mozzies
 

"'Mike'" wrote

I really hate gunk on my skin but I dislike mozzie bites even more.

No problem with :-----

"Jungle Formula Insect Repellent" Handy Wipes. :-)))


http://www.jungleformula.co.uk/faq/index.html

their one that works uses 50% DEET.

There is also the Avon Cosmetics original "Skin so Soft" which is used by
lots of those visiting Scotland where the midges are OTT. Doesn't say it
repels insects but it does.

I've been using a 50% DEET every time I work on the allotment this summer
and haven't been bitten by anything yet, normally I come up in big red lumps
that itch maddeningly for days.

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
17mls W. of London.UK



Space[_2_] 07-09-2007 06:35 PM

OT speaking of mozzies
 

"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
Is there a consensus of opinion on the best anti-mozzie spray? I'd love
to
have some surefire ideas before we head off to Turkey. ;-)

according to the School of tropical medicine whatever repellant you use must
be at least 50% deets to be effective.

I have an allergy to bites at home and abroad and this was the
recommendation from the nurse at my doctors surgery.

Jungle fever is typically 50% deets, but you can also buy a repellent with a
higher concentration.

(I am yet to find out what a deet is!!)

take some hydro cortisone (sp) cream with you. if you are bitten the
antibiotics within the cream really do help. I didn't take the cream away
when we went camping in Sussex and I developed cellulitis. I had a similar
bite more recently when camping but had the cream and the bite went down
quite quickly.

also, start a regime of anti-histamines about two weeks before you go and
continue taking the tablets while you are away.





Space[_2_] 07-09-2007 06:36 PM

OT speaking of mozzies
 

"'Mike'" wrote in message
...


"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
Is there a consensus of opinion on the best anti-mozzie spray? I'd love
to
have some surefire ideas before we head off to Turkey. ;-)

--
Sacha



When we went on our World Cruise, because of where we were visiting we
took "Jungle Formula Insect Repellent" Available from Boots all the year
round because of travellers and available in Spray, Pump Action Spray and
what we found very handy, Handy Wipes.

If it's only Turkey, this stuff will do fine. We have been there at the
height of Summer so you will have no trouble



I've been to many places and Turkey was the worst for mozzie bites, not just
me but for other people at the resort.



'Mike' 07-09-2007 06:43 PM

OT speaking of mozzies
 


"Space" wrote in message
...

"'Mike'" wrote in message
...


"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
Is there a consensus of opinion on the best anti-mozzie spray? I'd love
to
have some surefire ideas before we head off to Turkey. ;-)

--
Sacha



When we went on our World Cruise, because of where we were visiting we
took "Jungle Formula Insect Repellent" Available from Boots all the year
round because of travellers and available in Spray, Pump Action Spray and
what we found very handy, Handy Wipes.

If it's only Turkey, this stuff will do fine. We have been there at the
height of Summer so you will have no trouble



I've been to many places and Turkey was the worst for mozzie bites, not
just me but for other people at the resort.



"Jungle Formula Insect Repellent" Available from Boots all the year
round because of travellers and available in Spray, Pump Action Spray and
what we found very handy, Handy Wipes.

:-))))))

Must have been good then :-))

Pity some people throw a deaf 'un :-))

Who are the losers?

Kindest regards

Mike


--
www.rneba.org.uk for the latest pictures of the very first reunion and
Inaugural General Meeting. Nothing less than a fantastic success.
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'THE' Association if you served in the Electrical Branch of the Royal Navy
www.rneba.org.uk to find your ex-Greenie mess mates
www.iowtours.com for all ex-Service Reunions. More being added regularly
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'Mike' 07-09-2007 08:10 PM

OT speaking of mozzies
 


"Martin" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 18:36:33 +0100, "Space" wrote:


"'Mike'" wrote in message
.. .


"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
Is there a consensus of opinion on the best anti-mozzie spray? I'd
love
to
have some surefire ideas before we head off to Turkey. ;-)

--
Sacha


When we went on our World Cruise, because of where we were visiting we
took "Jungle Formula Insect Repellent" Available from Boots all the year
round because of travellers and available in Spray, Pump Action Spray
and
what we found very handy, Handy Wipes.

If it's only Turkey, this stuff will do fine. We have been there at the
height of Summer so you will have no trouble



I've been to many places and Turkey was the worst for mozzie bites, not
just
me but for other people at the resort.


The Romans abandoned cities in Turkey, including Ephesus, because of the
problems caused by mosquitoes and malaria
--

Martin


and the silting up of the harbour. Ephesus 'was' a port town.

I liked the idea of the underground passageway from the Library ;-)

Mike



--
www.rneba.org.uk for the latest pictures of the very first reunion and
Inaugural General Meeting. Nothing less than a fantastic success.
The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association.
'THE' Association if you served in the Electrical Branch of the Royal Navy
www.rneba.org.uk to find your ex-Greenie mess mates
www.iowtours.com for all ex-Service Reunions. More being added regularly
"Navy Days" Portsmouth 25th - 27th July 2008. RN Shipmates will have a Stand




Space[_2_] 07-09-2007 08:15 PM

OT speaking of mozzies
 

"Martin" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 18:35:30 +0100, "Space" wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
o.uk...
Is there a consensus of opinion on the best anti-mozzie spray? I'd love
to
have some surefire ideas before we head off to Turkey. ;-)

according to the School of tropical medicine whatever repellant you use
must
be at least 50% deets to be effective.


Isn't that what I said?


i don't know - did you?



I have an allergy to bites at home and abroad and this was the
recommendation from the nurse at my doctors surgery.

Jungle fever is typically 50% deets, but you can also buy a repellent with
a
higher concentration.

(I am yet to find out what a deet is!!)




http://www.deetonline.org/faq.php#q1

"What is DEET?

DEET (N, N-diethyl-m-toluamide) is the active ingredient in most insect
repellents available in the United States that are applied to the skin.
DEET was
developed more than 50 years ago by the U.S. Department of Agriculture for
use
by our military. It was registered for use by the general public in 1957."

More scary stuff here
http://www.deetonline.org/
--

Martin



Sacha 08-09-2007 02:44 PM

OT speaking of mozzies
 
On 7/9/07 18:35, in article , "Space"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
Is there a consensus of opinion on the best anti-mozzie spray? I'd love
to
have some surefire ideas before we head off to Turkey. ;-)

according to the School of tropical medicine whatever repellant you use must
be at least 50% deets to be effective.

I have an allergy to bites at home and abroad and this was the
recommendation from the nurse at my doctors surgery.

Jungle fever is typically 50% deets, but you can also buy a repellent with a
higher concentration.

(I am yet to find out what a deet is!!)

take some hydro cortisone (sp) cream with you. if you are bitten the
antibiotics within the cream really do help. I didn't take the cream away
when we went camping in Sussex and I developed cellulitis. I had a similar
bite more recently when camping but had the cream and the bite went down
quite quickly.


Can you get that otc? Just sitting in the garden, having supper,
yesterday, I was nibbled all around my ankles and have a large bite on my
inner arm that itches like mad. Some such cream would be a boon!

also, start a regime of anti-histamines about two weeks before you go and
continue taking the tablets while you are away.

I can't take anti-histamine, unfortunately. For me, it's more effective
than any sleeping tablets known to man.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



'Mike' 08-09-2007 02:49 PM

OT speaking of mozzies
 



"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...

Can you get that otc? Just sitting in the garden, having supper,
yesterday, I was nibbled all around my ankles and have a large bite on my
inner arm that itches like mad. Some such cream would be a boon!


:-))

The spray/wipes I recommended are superb and the wipes fit into a handbag so
easily and are so simple to use.

Kindest possible regards

Mike

:-))



--
www.rneba.org.uk for the latest pictures of the very first reunion and
Inaugural General Meeting. Nothing less than a fantastic success.
The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association.
'THE' Association if you served in the Electrical Branch of the Royal Navy
www.rneba.org.uk to find your ex-Greenie mess mates
www.iowtours.com for all ex-Service Reunions. More being added regularly
"Navy Days" Portsmouth 25th - 27th July 2008. RN Shipmates will have a Stand



Space[_2_] 08-09-2007 02:53 PM

OT speaking of mozzies
 

"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
On 7/9/07 18:35, in article , "Space"
wrote:
take some hydro cortisone (sp) cream with you. if you are bitten the
antibiotics within the cream really do help. I didn't take the cream
away
when we went camping in Sussex and I developed cellulitis. I had a
similar
bite more recently when camping but had the cream and the bite went down
quite quickly.


Can you get that otc? Just sitting in the garden, having supper,
yesterday, I was nibbled all around my ankles and have a large bite on my
inner arm that itches like mad. Some such cream would be a boon!


I'm not sure but it is worthwhile asking the doc for a prescription and
keeping close to hand in the future. I bought mine in Greece otc. i won't
leave home without it now. well, i can manage a trip to the shops ok :-)


also, start a regime of anti-histamines about two weeks before you go and
continue taking the tablets while you are away.

I can't take anti-histamine, unfortunately. For me, it's more effective
than any sleeping tablets known to man.


do you know you can get non-drowsy anti-histamines?


Sacha 08-09-2007 03:00 PM

OT speaking of mozzies
 
On 8/9/07 14:53, in article , "Space"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
On 7/9/07 18:35, in article
, "Space"
wrote:
take some hydro cortisone (sp) cream with you. if you are bitten the
antibiotics within the cream really do help. I didn't take the cream
away
when we went camping in Sussex and I developed cellulitis. I had a
similar
bite more recently when camping but had the cream and the bite went down
quite quickly.


Can you get that otc? Just sitting in the garden, having supper,
yesterday, I was nibbled all around my ankles and have a large bite on my
inner arm that itches like mad. Some such cream would be a boon!


I'm not sure but it is worthwhile asking the doc for a prescription and
keeping close to hand in the future. I bought mine in Greece otc. i won't
leave home without it now. well, i can manage a trip to the shops ok :-)


I don't think I'll get time to go to the doctor so perhaps I can find some
in Turkey. I'll check with the local pharmacist, too. Thanks for that
advice.


also, start a regime of anti-histamines about two weeks before you go and
continue taking the tablets while you are away.

I can't take anti-histamine, unfortunately. For me, it's more effective
than any sleeping tablets known to man.


do you know you can get non-drowsy anti-histamines?

No, I didn't know that. Thanks again and yes, I'll talk to the local
pharmacist! Normally, if I have trouble sleeping (mercifully rare) I take a
tiny bit of some tablets a friend from Canada gave me called (I think)
Dorm-Aid and I go out like a light. Apparently, they were originally
intended for anti-histamine use but were found to be very effective sleeping
tablets that didn't have to be on prescription. Sounds a bit dodgy to have
them otc to me but there we are!
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Space[_2_] 08-09-2007 03:13 PM

OT speaking of mozzies
 

"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
On 8/9/07 14:53, in article ,
"Space"
wrote:

do you know you can get non-drowsy anti-histamines?

No, I didn't know that. Thanks again and yes, I'll talk to the local
pharmacist! Normally, if I have trouble sleeping (mercifully rare) I take
a
tiny bit of some tablets a friend from Canada gave me called (I think)
Dorm-Aid and I go out like a light. Apparently, they were originally
intended for anti-histamine use but were found to be very effective
sleeping
tablets that didn't have to be on prescription. Sounds a bit dodgy to
have
them otc to me but there we are!
--


I only ever take non-drowsy although my sister takes the drowsy kind as a
sleeping aid. you can buy both types at large supermarkets.




'Mike' 08-09-2007 03:56 PM

OT speaking of mozzies
 


"Martin" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 15:00:59 +0100, Sacha

wrote:

On 8/9/07 14:53, in article ,
"Space"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
On 7/9/07 18:35, in article
, "Space"
wrote:
take some hydro cortisone (sp) cream with you. if you are bitten the
antibiotics within the cream really do help. I didn't take the cream
away
when we went camping in Sussex and I developed cellulitis. I had a
similar
bite more recently when camping but had the cream and the bite went
down
quite quickly.

Can you get that otc? Just sitting in the garden, having supper,
yesterday, I was nibbled all around my ankles and have a large bite on
my
inner arm that itches like mad. Some such cream would be a boon!

I'm not sure but it is worthwhile asking the doc for a prescription and
keeping close to hand in the future. I bought mine in Greece otc. i
won't
leave home without it now. well, i can manage a trip to the shops ok
:-)


I don't think I'll get time to go to the doctor so perhaps I can find some
in Turkey. I'll check with the local pharmacist, too. Thanks for that
advice.


also, start a regime of anti-histamines about two weeks before you go
and
continue taking the tablets while you are away.

I can't take anti-histamine, unfortunately. For me, it's more
effective
than any sleeping tablets known to man.

do you know you can get non-drowsy anti-histamines?

No, I didn't know that. Thanks again and yes, I'll talk to the local
pharmacist! Normally, if I have trouble sleeping (mercifully rare) I take
a
tiny bit of some tablets a friend from Canada gave me called (I think)
Dorm-Aid and I go out like a light. Apparently, they were originally
intended for anti-histamine use but were found to be very effective
sleeping
tablets that didn't have to be on prescription. Sounds a bit dodgy to
have
them otc to me but there we are!


Don't forget to keep a copy of the prescription not everything sold
legally in
one country is legal everywhere.

Why can't you use OTS insect repellant containing 50% or more DEET? You
don't
have to put it on your body. Putting it on socks, clothes etc. and at
night on
the bed headboard or pillow is adequate.
--

Martin


Or use the wipes I have recommended???????????

Mike



--
www.rneba.org.uk for the latest pictures of the very first reunion and
Inaugural General Meeting. Nothing less than a fantastic success.
The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association.
'THE' Association if you served in the Electrical Branch of the Royal Navy
www.rneba.org.uk to find your ex-Greenie mess mates
www.iowtours.com for all ex-Service Reunions. More being added regularly
"Navy Days" Portsmouth 25th - 27th July 2008. RN Shipmates will have a Stand




Sacha 08-09-2007 04:05 PM

OT speaking of mozzies
 
On 8/9/07 15:50, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 14:44:19 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

On 7/9/07 18:35, in article
, "Space"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
Is there a consensus of opinion on the best anti-mozzie spray? I'd love
to
have some surefire ideas before we head off to Turkey. ;-)

according to the School of tropical medicine whatever repellant you use must
be at least 50% deets to be effective.

I have an allergy to bites at home and abroad and this was the
recommendation from the nurse at my doctors surgery.

Jungle fever is typically 50% deets, but you can also buy a repellent with a
higher concentration.

(I am yet to find out what a deet is!!)

take some hydro cortisone (sp) cream with you. if you are bitten the
antibiotics within the cream really do help. I didn't take the cream away
when we went camping in Sussex and I developed cellulitis. I had a similar
bite more recently when camping but had the cream and the bite went down
quite quickly.


Can you get that otc? Just sitting in the garden, having supper,
yesterday, I was nibbled all around my ankles and have a large bite on my
inner arm that itches like mad. Some such cream would be a boon!


Calamine lotion?


Oh that does bring back memories of long summer days on the beach at home -
and the pink skinned aftermath. I'm afraid I never really became fond of
that pink blotch effect. ;-)
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Sacha 08-09-2007 04:06 PM

OT speaking of mozzies
 
On 8/9/07 15:55, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 15:00:59 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

snip

No, I didn't know that. Thanks again and yes, I'll talk to the local
pharmacist! Normally, if I have trouble sleeping (mercifully rare) I take a
tiny bit of some tablets a friend from Canada gave me called (I think)
Dorm-Aid and I go out like a light. Apparently, they were originally
intended for anti-histamine use but were found to be very effective sleeping
tablets that didn't have to be on prescription. Sounds a bit dodgy to have
them otc to me but there we are!


Don't forget to keep a copy of the prescription not everything sold legally in
one country is legal everywhere.

Why can't you use OTS insect repellant containing 50% or more DEET? You don't
have to put it on your body. Putting it on socks, clothes etc. and at night on
the bed headboard or pillow is adequate.


I will, I will! But the anti-histamine is for after the DEET has failed me.
;-)
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



'Mike' 08-09-2007 04:34 PM

OT speaking of mozzies
 


"Martin" wrote in message
...

It does work as an anti-irritant, other than against the Mikes of this
world.
--

Martin


Mike's recommendation of the wipes really does work. They are superb :-))

We were in really hot stuff in Australia and Malaysia and they were
wonderful.... Honest. Try them!!

Mike


--
www.rneba.org.uk for the latest pictures of the very first reunion and
Inaugural General Meeting. Nothing less than a fantastic success.
The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association.
'THE' Association if you served in the Electrical Branch of the Royal Navy
www.rneba.org.uk to find your ex-Greenie mess mates
www.iowtours.com for all ex-Service Reunions. More being added regularly
"Navy Days" Portsmouth 25th - 27th July 2008. RN Shipmates will have a Stand




Sacha 08-09-2007 04:40 PM

OT speaking of mozzies
 
On 8/9/07 16:28, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 16:06:40 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

snip
But the anti-histamine is for after the DEET has failed me.
;-)


LOL and cheap local alcohol if all else fails? :-)


Raki? I think NOT!!

Where are you going? We still haven't had a hot holiday this year. We were
going
to go to Turkey in spring, but summer came even earlier to Turkey than last
year.


We're going to Dalyan. I've sailed quite a bit in that area but never went
to Dalyan - I think I was ill the day the rest of the crew did that trip.
It's where the turtles breed around this time of year and is a nature
reserve. Friends who have a villa there tell us that it's less built up than
other places in that region and is quieter generally.
http://www.dalyaninfo.com/fring.htm

I was last in Turkey, sailing out of Goçek about 15 or 16 years ago when
there were a couple of pontoons, a couple of tavernas and one wooden shack
which served as the village shop. I'm told that now it has a very smart
marina and a lot of posh villas! The entire area is a sailing paradise and
I think you'd love it if you haven't been there. The first time I went we
did a flotilla but with one of our group as skipper and then after that I've
sailed with friends, including a yacht I lived on for nearly a year. It's a
magical area and I have nothing but good memories of Turkey.
I was looking for gardens to see there but gardens in Turkey seem few and
far between in the "open to the public" sense. Of course, there are some in
places like Istanbul but the site I was reading says that there are very few
gardens as we know them because the Turks were a nomadic people.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Sacha 08-09-2007 05:08 PM

OT speaking of mozzies
 
On 8/9/07 17:00, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 16:40:22 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

On 8/9/07 16:28, in article
,
"Martin" wrote:

On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 16:06:40 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

snip
But the anti-histamine is for after the DEET has failed me.
;-)

LOL and cheap local alcohol if all else fails? :-)


Raki? I think NOT!!

Where are you going? We still haven't had a hot holiday this year. We were
going
to go to Turkey in spring, but summer came even earlier to Turkey than last
year.


We're going to Dalyan. I've sailed quite a bit in that area but never went
to Dalyan - I think I was ill the day the rest of the crew did that trip.
It's where the turtles breed around this time of year and is a nature
reserve. Friends who have a villa there tell us that it's less built up than
other places in that region and is quieter generally.
http://www.dalyaninfo.com/fring.htm


The plane landed at the airport the first time we went there, it was the first
flight to Turkey made by the airline, the plane was greeted by a band and
girls
in national dress singing.


Dalaman airport is about an hour or so from Dalyan. The first time I flew
there it had only just stopped being military aircraft only and they were
incredibly suspicious and security conscious. It took ages to clear
immigration with every detail of everyone's passport being entered by hand
into a ledger.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Sacha 08-09-2007 11:42 PM

OT speaking of mozzies
 
On 8/9/07 18:30, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 17:08:55 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

snip

Dalaman airport is about an hour or so from Dalyan. The first time I flew
there it had only just stopped being military aircraft only and they were
incredibly suspicious and security conscious. It took ages to clear
immigration with every detail of everyone's passport being entered by hand
into a ledger.


We flew in low over Dalyan I recognise it from the photos on
http://www.dalyaninfo.com/fring.htm .

There were hundreds of storks watching us take off. Bird strikes, wozzat?


Oh thanks. ;-))

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Sacha 09-09-2007 09:22 AM

OT speaking of mozzies
 
On 9/9/07 09:09, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 23:42:58 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

On 8/9/07 18:30, in article
,
"Martin" wrote:

On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 17:08:55 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

snip

Dalaman airport is about an hour or so from Dalyan. The first time I flew
there it had only just stopped being military aircraft only and they were
incredibly suspicious and security conscious. It took ages to clear
immigration with every detail of everyone's passport being entered by hand
into a ledger.

We flew in low over Dalyan I recognise it from the photos on
http://www.dalyaninfo.com/fring.htm .

There were hundreds of storks watching us take off. Bird strikes, wozzat?


Oh thanks. ;-))


The hotel where we stayed in Side had an Internet Cafe, that nobody used.

Civilisation!


I'm all for it. ;-)
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'




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