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I was told that if Brussel sprouts are planted or sown in loose soil the
sprouts will not be tight but will be very open leaved and useless as sprouts. I've always ignored this and never bothered with tamping down the soil but, this year, I had to pull up and throw away my row of sprouts because they were so open leaved as to be useless. Luckily, I planted a row of a later variety of Brussel sprout plants sometime after I had the problem, still in loose soil, and these look fine. What I've was told seems to be true, however, but has anyone else more experience of the problem and could it be caused by something else? I'd be pleased to hear anyone else's experience as I can't see how the firmness of the soil relates to the firmness of the sprouts. Regards, John |
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"John Vanini" wrote in message ... I was told that if Brussel sprouts are planted or sown in loose soil the sprouts will not be tight but will be very open leaved and useless as sprouts. I've always ignored this and never bothered with tamping down the soil but, this year, I had to pull up and throw away my row of sprouts because they were so open leaved as to be useless. Luckily, I planted a row of a later variety of Brussel sprout plants sometime after I had the problem, still in loose soil, and these look fine. What I've was told seems to be true, however, but has anyone else more experience of the problem and could it be caused by something else? I'd be pleased to hear anyone else's experience as I can't see how the firmness of the soil relates to the firmness of the sprouts. Seems your info was right John! I can't offer any knowledge on why they do that, but what I can tell you is that if you cook up the sprouts anyway they make wicked Bubble and Squeak! |
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"Uncle Marvo" wrote in message ... "John Vanini" wrote in message ... I was told that if Brussel sprouts are planted or sown in loose soil the sprouts will not be tight but will be very open leaved and useless as sprouts. I've always ignored this and never bothered with tamping down the soil but, this year, I had to pull up and throw away my row of sprouts because they were so open leaved as to be useless. Luckily, I planted a row of a later variety of Brussel sprout plants sometime after I had the problem, still in loose soil, and these look fine. What I've was told seems to be true, however, but has anyone else more experience of the problem and could it be caused by something else? I'd be pleased to hear anyone else's experience as I can't see how the firmness of the soil relates to the firmness of the sprouts. Seems your info was right John! I can't offer any knowledge on why they do that, but what I can tell you is that if you cook up the sprouts anyway they make wicked Bubble and Squeak! and that even the loose sprouts cooked as greens in the normal way taste good :-)) Mike -- www.rneba.org.uk for the latest pictures of the very first reunion and Inaugural General Meeting. Nothing less than a fantastic success. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association. 'THE' Association if you served in the Electrical Branch of the Royal Navy www.rneba.org.uk to find your ex-Greenie mess mates www.iowtours.com for all ex-Service Reunions. More being added regularly "Navy Days" Portsmouth 25th - 27th July 2008. RN Shipmates will have a Stand |
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John Vanini wrote:
I was told that if Brussel sprouts are planted or sown in loose soil the sprouts will not be tight but will be very open leaved and useless as sprouts. I've always ignored this and never bothered with tamping down the soil but, this year, I had to pull up and throw away my row of sprouts because they were so open leaved as to be useless. What a waste - sprout tops are wonderfull - almost better than the sprouts themselves! I've always understood this too. |
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"Jim Jackson" wrote in message ... John Vanini wrote: I was told that if Brussel sprouts are planted or sown in loose soil the sprouts will not be tight but will be very open leaved and useless as sprouts. I've always ignored this and never bothered with tamping down the soil but, this year, I had to pull up and throw away my row of sprouts because they were so open leaved as to be useless. What a waste - sprout tops are wonderfull - almost better than the sprouts themselves! I've always understood this too. Yes, the open sprouts or tops are often better than the tight sprouts themselves. They make an excellent Winter green steamed or stir fried. We only eat the light green leaves though not the dark green ones as they taste too strong. They often grow right through into Spring providing an ongoing source of fresh greens. David. |
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In reply to David (Normandy) ) who wrote this in
, I, Marvo, say : We only eat the light green leaves though not the dark green ones as they taste too strong. The dark ones are excellent braised with almond slivers. Just in case you were going to throw them away, also they make a good sub for spinach in a sag aloo. |
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snip I'd be pleased to hear anyone else's experience as I can't see how the firmness of the soil relates to the firmness of the sprouts. We always do the famous gardeners' dance on the back of the heels to firm the ground down for all sprouts and cabbages that need to hearten up. Best way I find is to clear the previous crop and just hoe the ground rather than digging it and it is already nice and firm. Why it works is a mystery to me but , on the whole, it does work. Like the others said though, any greens that they produce are good especially the tops which are a late winter treat,not to be missed. |
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"Uncle Marvo" wrote in message
... In reply to David (Normandy) ) who wrote this in , I, Marvo, say : We only eat the light green leaves though not the dark green ones as they taste too strong. The dark ones are excellent braised with almond slivers. Just in case you were going to throw them away, also they make a good sub for spinach in a sag aloo. I, normally, use the tops as a straight replacement for cabbage (they seem to be sweeter) and in bubble & squeak. I have used the sprouts in bubble & squeak, but, as has been said, these can have too strong a flavour. I, also, use the leaves of the Purple Sprouting Broccoli as these are very sweet and a good replacement for cabbage. Anyway, I've thrown away the loose sprout plants now but I have another five or six growing, of a diffferent and later variety. Now, before anyone has a go at me because of the wide spaces between paragraphs, let me say now that I will check before posting, in future. The problem seems to be that I prepare the post using MS Word to ensure that the English is a s good as I can make it and that the spelling is correct. Thanks, John |
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On 17 Sep, 13:11, "Robert \(Plymouth\)"
remove my other hobby to reply wrote: snip I'd be pleased to hear anyone else's experience as I can't see how the firmness of the soil relates to the firmness of the sprouts. We always do the famous gardeners' dance on the back of the heels to firm the ground down for all sprouts and cabbages that need to hearten up. Best way I find is to clear the previous crop and just hoe the ground rather than digging it and it is already nice and firm. Why it works is a mystery to me but , on the whole, it does work. Like the others said though, any greens that they produce are good especially the tops which are a late winter treat,not to be missed. Raises the interesting thought on how do the commercial growers achieve this ? Mental picture of them hiring in the army and getting a battalion of squaddies to march up and down the fields ! Or do they roll first and somehow plant through the hard surface ? Rob |
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"John Vanini" wrote ((SNIP)) Now, before anyone has a go at me because of the wide spaces between paragraphs, let me say now that I will check before posting, in future. The problem seems to be that I prepare the post using MS Word to ensure that the English is a s good as I can make it and that the spelling is correct. John, you use Outlook Express 6 and that has a spell checker anyway. -- Regards Bob Hobden 17mls W. of London.UK |
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"John Vanini" wrote in message
Now, before anyone has a go at me because of the wide spaces between paragraphs, let me say now that I will check before posting, in future. The problem seems to be that I prepare the post using MS Word to ensure that the English is a s good as I can make it and that the spelling is correct. Why do that John? I notice from doing a Properties check on your post that you use Microsoft Outlook Express Version 6 and that has a spell checker function. Besides, none of us always produce perfect posts anyway, so the occasional mistake will be forgiven. |
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Yes, Bob, indeed it does but I prefer to use MS Word. All that I have to
remember to do is remove the unwanted spaces! Thanks and regards, John. "Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... "John Vanini" wrote ((SNIP)) Now, before anyone has a go at me because of the wide spaces between paragraphs, let me say now that I will check before posting, in future. The problem seems to be that I prepare the post using MS Word to ensure that the English is a s good as I can make it and that the spelling is correct. John, you use Outlook Express 6 and that has a spell checker anyway. -- Regards Bob Hobden 17mls W. of London.UK |
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In reply to John Vanini ) who wrote this in
, I, Marvo, say : Yes, Bob, indeed it does but I prefer to use MS Word. All that I have to remember to do is remove the unwanted spaces! And post at the bottom .... :-) |
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"Rob G" wrote in message oups.com... On 17 Sep, 13:11, "Robert \(Plymouth\)" remove my other hobby to reply wrote: snip I'd be pleased to hear anyone else's experience as I can't see how the firmness of the soil relates to the firmness of the sprouts. We always do the famous gardeners' dance on the back of the heels to firm the ground down for all sprouts and cabbages that need to hearten up. Best way I find is to clear the previous crop and just hoe the ground rather than digging it and it is already nice and firm. Why it works is a mystery to me but , on the whole, it does work. Like the others said though, any greens that they produce are good especially the tops which are a late winter treat,not to be missed. Raises the interesting thought on how do the commercial growers achieve this ? Mental picture of them hiring in the army and getting a battalion of squaddies to march up and down the fields ! Or do they roll first and somehow plant through the hard surface ? Rob Thanks Rob, Exactly what I was discussing only about an hour ago! I don't know how they do it but I had a mental picture of a farmer walking all over his field, stamping on the ground before sowing! I don't think so! I assume that they plough the field well before sowing time and then let the ground settle. It was, I thought, just an interesting question because the allotment holder next door to me always shuffles and stamps his way slowly along the rows where the sprouts are to be planted and it was he who told me why he did it. I laughed but this year mine were all extremely loose-leaved and his are nice and tight sprouts! I was hoping to tell him the "real" reason for my problem in order to score a point because he's a very nice chap but one of those who knows everything - a bit like a character in a TV programme I saw many years ago - I'm sure someone will remember it! Regards John |
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Net nanny :-(((((((
-- www.rneba.org.uk for the latest pictures of the very first reunion and Inaugural General Meeting. Nothing less than a fantastic success. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association. 'THE' Association if you served in the Electrical Branch of the Royal Navy www.rneba.org.uk to find your ex-Greenie mess mates www.iowtours.com for all ex-Service Reunions. More being added regularly "Navy Days" Portsmouth 25th - 27th July 2008. RN Shipmates will have a Stand "Uncle Marvo" wrote in message ... In reply to John Vanini ) who wrote this in , I, Marvo, say : Yes, Bob, indeed it does but I prefer to use MS Word. All that I have to remember to do is remove the unwanted spaces! And post at the bottom .... :-) |
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"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message ... "John Vanini" wrote in message Now, before anyone has a go at me because of the wide spaces between paragraphs, let me say now that I will check before posting, in future. The problem seems to be that I prepare the post using MS Word to ensure that the English is a s good as I can make it and that the spelling is correct. Why do that John? I notice from doing a Properties check on your post that you use Microsoft Outlook Express Version 6 and that has a spell checker function. Besides, none of us always produce perfect posts anyway, so the occasional mistake will be forgiven. __________________________________________________ ______ Yes, you're absolutely right! It's just that I prefer MS Word and have been trying to avoid comment! Regards, John |
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"John Vanini" wrote in message ... Yes, you're absolutely right! It's just that I prefer MS Word and have been trying to avoid comment! Regards, John John. Take it from me. ""SOMEONE"" will ALWAYS make comment on your postings :-(( They have nothing better to do. ""THEY"" are perfect. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. In their eyes. :-(((( Sit back and watch the flak fired at me now and you will see JUST what I mean :-(( Kindest possible regards Mike Over to you Net Nannies -- www.rneba.org.uk for the latest pictures of the very first reunion and Inaugural General Meeting. Nothing less than a fantastic success. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association. 'THE' Association if you served in the Electrical Branch of the Royal Navy www.rneba.org.uk to find your ex-Greenie mess mates www.iowtours.com for all ex-Service Reunions. More being added regularly "Navy Days" Portsmouth 25th - 27th July 2008. RN Shipmates will have a Stand |
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No, to be honest, I've taken as much criticism as I am going to take What
is written in the post is more important than how it is written. I will NOT post at the bottom for the reasons I gave - I don't see why I should trawl down a long list of previous posts to find the sole comment - "I agree" and there are many others who top-post, which makes more sense. If there is someone who is measuring the spaces between paragraphs (as there is) then they, obviously, need something to do. I enjoyed my time discussing gardening and I probably gave more advice to others than I received. I owe no one an apology! I'm sorry, Uncle Marvo, you (and there are several others whose opinion and suggestions I respect - Sally in Shropshire, Bob, David (Normandy), Robert (Plymouth) and some others) but enough is enough and the moment I finish this post, I shall unsubscribe. I'm wasting my time. I wanted intelligent discussions on gardening, I wanted to learn more, to educate myself - not lectures on how to write a post! I apologise, again, to you, Uncle Marvo, as I don't wish to offend you but yours was the final straw though I was already wondering why I was bothering! Regards, John __________________________________________________ ______________________________________ "Uncle Marvo" wrote in message ... In reply to John Vanini ) who wrote this in , I, Marvo, say : Yes, Bob, indeed it does but I prefer to use MS Word. All that I have to remember to do is remove the unwanted spaces! And post at the bottom .... :-) |
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"John Vanini" wrote in message ... No, to be honest, I've taken as much criticism as I am going to take What is written in the post is more important than how it is written. I will NOT post at the bottom for the reasons I gave - I don't see why I should trawl down a long list of previous posts to find the sole comment - "I agree" and there are many others who top-post, which makes more sense. If there is someone who is measuring the spaces between paragraphs (as there is) then they, obviously, need something to do. I enjoyed my time discussing gardening and I probably gave more advice to others than I received. I owe no one an apology! I'm sorry, Uncle Marvo, you (and there are several others whose opinion and suggestions I respect - Sally in Shropshire, Bob, David (Normandy), Robert (Plymouth) and some others) but enough is enough and the moment I finish this post, I shall unsubscribe. I'm wasting my time. I wanted intelligent discussions on gardening, I wanted to learn more, to educate myself - not lectures on how to write a post! I apologise, again, to you, Uncle Marvo, as I don't wish to offend you but yours was the final straw though I was already wondering why I was bothering! Regards, John __________________________________________________ ______________________________________ "Uncle Marvo" wrote in message ... In reply to John Vanini ) who wrote this in , I, Marvo, say : Yes, Bob, indeed it does but I prefer to use MS Word. All that I have to remember to do is remove the unwanted spaces! And post at the bottom .... :-) """Net Nannies Rule""" Happy Now? What a sad lot you really are Mike -- www.rneba.org.uk for the latest pictures of the very first reunion and Inaugural General Meeting. Nothing less than a fantastic success. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association. 'THE' Association if you served in the Electrical Branch of the Royal Navy www.rneba.org.uk to find your ex-Greenie mess mates www.iowtours.com for all ex-Service Reunions. More being added regularly "Navy Days" Portsmouth 25th - 27th July 2008. RN Shipmates will have a Stand |
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"John Vanini" wrote I was told that if Brussel sprouts are planted or sown in loose soil the sprouts will not be tight but will be very open leaved and useless as sprouts. I've always ignored this and never bothered with tamping down the soil but, this year, I had to pull up and throw away my row of sprouts because they were so open leaved as to be useless. Luckily, I planted a row of a later variety of Brussel sprout plants sometime after I had the problem, still in loose soil, and these look fine. What I've was told seems to be true, however, but has anyone else more experience of the problem and could it be caused by something else? I'd be pleased to hear anyone else's experience as I can't see how the firmness of the soil relates to the firmness of the sprouts. With silt/clay soil we never have a problem with loose soil, a good raining on and it will set hard. That said, this year we too have a few sprouts that have "blown" at the bottom of plants, must be the weather. Also noticed that our "Icarus" sprout plants haven't grown like they normally do, look healthy, just small and somehow not right. The Trafalgar plants are as robust as usual. Regarding the criticism of your posting methods, don't worry about it, same happened to me years ago when I first started posting to Newsgroups. It's just people want consistency to make the job of reading easy. I think all the childish troll stuff is having an effect on posters too. There are a lot of very knowledgeable/experienced gardeners here amongst some others, time will enable you to see who is who. :-) -- Regards Bob Hobden |
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"John Vanini" wrote in message ... I was told that if Brussel sprouts are planted or sown in loose soil the sprouts will not be tight but will be very open leaved and useless as sprouts. I've always ignored this and never bothered with tamping down the soil but, this year, I had to pull up and throw away my row of sprouts because they were so open leaved as to be useless. Luckily, I planted a row of a later variety of Brussel sprout plants sometime after I had the problem, still in loose soil, and these look fine. What I've was told seems to be true, however, but has anyone else more experience of the problem and could it be caused by something else? I'd be pleased to hear anyone else's experience as I can't see how the firmness of the soil relates to the firmness of the sprouts. Neither can I, but here in North Wilts that's what they say down the allotments. Especially the old guy who has an allotment next to ours, he says you have to stamp the soil down to get small brussels heads. Who knows, maybe there is something in it. If I were you, I'd take peoples' advice and put the boot in as and when you're planting them. We've never had much luck with brussels, so we go for Cavolo nero instead. someone |
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Don't go, John!
I love your posts. (see, I even put this at the top :-) Unc In reply to John Vanini ) who wrote this in , I, Marvo, say : No, to be honest, I've taken as much criticism as I am going to take What is written in the post is more important than how it is written. I will NOT post at the bottom for the reasons I gave - I don't see why I should trawl down a long list of previous posts to find the sole comment - "I agree" and there are many others who top-post, which makes more sense. If there is someone who is measuring the spaces between paragraphs (as there is) then they, obviously, need something to do. I enjoyed my time discussing gardening and I probably gave more advice to others than I received. I owe no one an apology! I'm sorry, Uncle Marvo, you (and there are several others whose opinion and suggestions I respect - Sally in Shropshire, Bob, David (Normandy), Robert (Plymouth) and some others) but enough is enough and the moment I finish this post, I shall unsubscribe. I'm wasting my time. I wanted intelligent discussions on gardening, I wanted to learn more, to educate myself - not lectures on how to write a post! I apologise, again, to you, Uncle Marvo, as I don't wish to offend you but yours was the final straw though I was already wondering why I was bothering! Regards, John __________________________________________________ ______________________________________ "Uncle Marvo" wrote in message ... In reply to John Vanini ) who wrote this in , I, Marvo, say : Yes, Bob, indeed it does but I prefer to use MS Word. All that I have to remember to do is remove the unwanted spaces! And post at the bottom .... :-) |
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Uncle Marvo writes
Don't go, John! I love your posts. (see, I even put this at the top :-) Reasons for not top posting 1) not the convention in this ng 2) Many posts here include multiple points. It's clearer if each point is answered where it's made, and not in a lump at the top. Long posts with a reply at the top mean a lot of moving up and down the screen to see exactly what each answer referred to 3) This newsreader, and I presume others, allow you to read posts simply by hitting space bar, which takes you to next screen, next post, next thread in order. Top posters IME rarely snip (like me in this one!), so one usually has to page down several pages of historical posts left hanging at the bottom. Unc In reply to John Vanini ) who wrote this in , I, Marvo, say : No, to be honest, I've taken as much criticism as I am going to take What is written in the post is more important than how it is written. I will NOT post at the bottom for the reasons I gave - I don't see why I should trawl down a long list of previous posts to find the sole comment - "I agree" and there are many others who top-post, which makes more sense. If there is someone who is measuring the spaces between paragraphs (as there is) then they, obviously, need something to do. I enjoyed my time discussing gardening and I probably gave more advice to others than I received. I owe no one an apology! I'm sorry, Uncle Marvo, you (and there are several others whose opinion and suggestions I respect - Sally in Shropshire, Bob, David (Normandy), Robert (Plymouth) and some others) but enough is enough and the moment I finish this post, I shall unsubscribe. I'm wasting my time. I wanted intelligent discussions on gardening, I wanted to learn more, to educate myself - not lectures on how to write a post! I apologise, again, to you, Uncle Marvo, as I don't wish to offend you but yours was the final straw though I was already wondering why I was bothering! Regards, John ________________________________________________ _______________________ _________________ "Uncle Marvo" wrote in message ... In reply to John Vanini ) who wrote this in , I, Marvo, say : Yes, Bob, indeed it does but I prefer to use MS Word. All that I have to remember to do is remove the unwanted spaces! And post at the bottom .... :-) -- Kay |
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I stand corrected.
"K" wrote in message ... Uncle Marvo writes Don't go, John! I love your posts. (see, I even put this at the top :-) Reasons for not top posting 1) not the convention in this ng |
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John Vanini wrote:
No, to be honest, I've taken as much criticism as I am going to take What is written in the post is more important than how it is written. Hmm. Well, that depends. Certainly what you've written here is more important that how you wrote it. "I'm doing this and yah boo sucks to good manners". Well done. -- Posting at the top of an article because that is where your cursor happened to be is like crapping in your pants because that is where your arse happened to be. |
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Tuesday 18th September 2007
Me too! Don't go John! Never did this before, starting at the top, feels strange, nice and neat really. I've put the date on too like a new page on an exercise book. Shame I can't underline ... I would have used my new gel pen .... Seriously!! Superbe idea with the tops of sprouts. Mine are going on so so well, can't wait to eat them - and will definitely think about a lil' sag aloo for them :o) On 18 Sep, 09:27, "Uncle Marvo" wrote: Don't go, John! I love your posts. (see, I even put this at the top :-) |
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On 18 Sep, 16:22, "Uncle Marvo"
wrote: Can't _underline_ what? The-date. |
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On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:22:07 +0100, "Uncle Marvo"
wrote and included this (or some of this): In reply to ) who wrote this in .com, I, Marvo, say : Tuesday 18th September 2007 Me too! Don't go John! Never did this before, starting at the top, feels strange, nice and neat really. I've put the date on too like a new page on an exercise book. Shame I can't underline ... I would have used my new gel pen .... Can't _underline_ what? Exactly ¯¯¯¯¯ |
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On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:22:07 +0100, "Uncle Marvo"
wrote and included this (or some of this): In reply to ) who wrote this in .com, I, Marvo, say : Tuesday 18th September 2007 Me too! Don't go John! Never did this before, starting at the top, feels strange, nice and neat really. I've put the date on too like a new page on an exercise book. Shame I can't underline ... I would have used my new gel pen .... Can't _underline_ what? Exactly ¯¯¯¯¯¯ -- ®óñ© © ²°¹°-°³ |
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On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 12:00:33 +0100, K wrote
(in article ): Uncle Marvo writes Don't go, John! I love your posts. (see, I even put this at the top :-) Reasons for not top posting 1) not the convention in this ng 2) Many posts here include multiple points. It's clearer if each point is answered where it's made, and not in a lump at the top. Long posts with a reply at the top mean a lot of moving up and down the screen to see exactly what each answer referred to 3) This newsreader, and I presume others, allow you to read posts simply by hitting space bar, which takes you to next screen, next post, next thread in order. Top posters IME rarely snip (like me in this one!), so one usually has to page down several pages of historical posts left hanging at the bottom. Exactly: A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in usenet? g And I too hope John doesn't leave. We need real posters! -- Sally in Shropshire, UK Burne-Jones/William Morris window in Shropshire church with conservation churchyard: http://www.whitton-stmarys.org.uk |
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