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I have been stabbed by (I think) A dead Japonica. Again.

Again, my arm has swollen up like a football.

Does anyone know why this happens and what one should do about it (apart
from spend half a day at the Doc's again, getting antibiotics)?

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On 1/10/07 15:44, in article , "Uncle
Marvo" wrote:

I have been stabbed by (I think) A dead Japonica. Again.

Again, my arm has swollen up like a football.

Does anyone know why this happens and what one should do about it (apart
from spend half a day at the Doc's again, getting antibiotics)?


Get rid of the japonica. I'm not joking. If you have that kind of allergic
reaction and it's getting worse, not better, I'd avoid that particular plant
like the plague.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

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In article ,
Sacha writes:
| On 1/10/07 15:44, in article , "Uncle
| Marvo" wrote:
|
| I have been stabbed by (I think) A dead Japonica. Again.
|
| Again, my arm has swollen up like a football.
|
| Does anyone know why this happens and what one should do about it (apart
| from spend half a day at the Doc's again, getting antibiotics)?
|
| Get rid of the japonica. I'm not joking. If you have that kind of allergic
| reaction and it's getting worse, not better, I'd avoid that particular plant
| like the plague.

Agreed. And antibiotics are precisely what you DON'T want to take
for such reactions - they aren't as harmful as when used to treat
snakebite, but are still not good.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

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On Oct 1, 6:26 pm, (Nick Maclaren) wrote:
In article , Sacha writes:

| On 1/10/07 15:44, in article , "Uncle| Marvo" wrote:

|
| I have been stabbed by (I think) A dead Japonica. Again.
|
| Again, my arm has swollen up like a football.
|
| Does anyone know why this happens and what one should do about it (apart
| from spend half a day at the Doc's again, getting antibiotics)?
|
| Get rid of the japonica. I'm not joking. If you have that kind of allergic
| reaction and it's getting worse, not better, I'd avoid that particular plant
| like the plague.

Agreed. And antibiotics are precisely what you DON'T want to take
for such reactions - they aren't as harmful as when used to treat
snakebite, but are still not good.

Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

sounds right to me Nick; sounds allergic rather than infection by
bugs;
I remember getting antibiotics for hay fever when I was 7 and I self
diagnosed hay fever later on (I still have it).
Allergies can be nasty as they can get worse and worse each time;
Sacha is right maybe (get someone else to get rid of it even);
otherwise, piriton is over the counter from chemist, elephant strength
antihistamine; stops sneezing in 15 mins and sends you to sleep 15
mins later; if you bloat badly next time, useful to have some handy.

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In reply to Des Higgins ) who wrote this in
, I, Marvo, say :

On Oct 1, 6:26 pm, (Nick Maclaren) wrote:
In article , Sacha
writes:

On 1/10/07 15:44, in article ,
"Uncle| Marvo" wrote:


I have been stabbed by (I think) A dead Japonica. Again.

Again, my arm has swollen up like a football.

Does anyone know why this happens and what one should do about it
(apart from spend half a day at the Doc's again, getting
antibiotics)?

Get rid of the japonica. I'm not joking. If you have that kind of
allergic
reaction and it's getting worse, not better, I'd avoid that
particular plant
like the plague.

Agreed. And antibiotics are precisely what you DON'T want to take
for such reactions - they aren't as harmful as when used to treat
snakebite, but are still not good.

Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

sounds right to me Nick; sounds allergic rather than infection by
bugs;
I remember getting antibiotics for hay fever when I was 7 and I self
diagnosed hay fever later on (I still have it).
Allergies can be nasty as they can get worse and worse each time;
Sacha is right maybe (get someone else to get rid of it even);
otherwise, piriton is over the counter from chemist, elephant strength
antihistamine; stops sneezing in 15 mins and sends you to sleep 15
mins later; if you bloat badly next time, useful to have some handy.

I think you're all probably right.

I've got a doc's appointment in a mo, I'll explain that it's the second case
of the same plant. Best to check up while I've still got two arms

[what's that that's just fallen off?]

The Japonica's going just as soon as I can get the stump out - maybe it's
time to pay someone else to do it, pesky thing.

Piriton.

zzzzzzzzz

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On 2/10/07 09:19, in article , "Uncle
Marvo" wrote:

snip

I think you're all probably right.

I've got a doc's appointment in a mo, I'll explain that it's the second case
of the same plant. Best to check up while I've still got two arms

[what's that that's just fallen off?]

The Japonica's going just as soon as I can get the stump out - maybe it's
time to pay someone else to do it, pesky thing.

Piriton.

zzzzzzzzz


When I was asking about mozzie treatments someone told me that you can get
anti-histamine tabs that don't knock you out. If I take Piriton I'm gone
for a good two hours or more!

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

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On Oct 2, 9:48 am, Sacha wrote:
On 2/10/07 09:19, in article , "Uncle

Marvo" wrote:

snip



I think you're all probably right.

I've got a doc's appointment in a mo, I'll explain that it's the second case
of the same plant. Best to check up while I've still got two arms

[what's that that's just fallen off?]

The Japonica's going just as soon as I can get the stump out - maybe it's
time to pay someone else to do it, pesky thing.

Piriton.

zzzzzzzzz

When I was asking about mozzie treatments someone told me that you can get
anti-histamine tabs that don't knock you out. If I take Piriton I'm gone
for a good two hours or more!


There are lots and lots of anti-histamine tablets that do not knock
you out but I never found one that I like and that worked quickly and
that did not have worse side effects. For occasional use, piriton are
very cheap and very fast as long as you do not then go for a gunfight
or try to play rugby or drive a car. I only use them in emergencies.
I always take them with me when travelling in case I end up in a dusty
hotel room.
Other tablets I have tried sometimes take a day or two to get going
and then give me racing heartbeat; it is grim to try to sleep with
that.

--
Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

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On Mon, 1 Oct 2007 15:44:48 +0100, "Uncle Marvo"
wrote:

I have been stabbed by (I think) A dead Japonica. Again.

Again, my arm has swollen up like a football.

Does anyone know why this happens and what one should do about it (apart
from spend half a day at the Doc's again, getting antibiotics)?


Get rid of the offending plants. Perhaps get someone else to remove
them.
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Ah fetch it yourself if you can't wait for delivery
http://www.freedeliveryuk.co.uk
Or get it delivered for free

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In reply to Des Higgins ) who wrote this in
, I, Marvo, say :

On Oct 2, 9:48 am, Sacha wrote:
On 2/10/07 09:19, in article ,
"Uncle

Marvo" wrote:

snip



I think you're all probably right.

I've got a doc's appointment in a mo, I'll explain that it's the
second case of the same plant. Best to check up while I've still
got two arms

[what's that that's just fallen off?]

The Japonica's going just as soon as I can get the stump out -
maybe it's time to pay someone else to do it, pesky thing.

Piriton.

zzzzzzzzz

When I was asking about mozzie treatments someone told me that you
can get anti-histamine tabs that don't knock you out. If I take
Piriton I'm gone for a good two hours or more!


There are lots and lots of anti-histamine tablets that do not knock
you out but I never found one that I like and that worked quickly and
that did not have worse side effects. For occasional use, piriton are
very cheap and very fast as long as you do not then go for a gunfight
or try to play rugby or drive a car. I only use them in emergencies.
I always take them with me when travelling in case I end up in a dusty
hotel room.
Other tablets I have tried sometimes take a day or two to get going
and then give me racing heartbeat; it is grim to try to sleep with
that.

I have Zirtek (sp?) which don't knock me out. I must see if I can start a
gunfight later, when I've finished the game of rugby.

I also have cellulitis and Flucloxacillin, and a flea in the ear from Doc
who says not to touch that plant again, cos next time I might be doing
Nelson impressions.

Kiss me, Hardy.

I didn't even like the bl**dy thing much.

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On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 01:56:13 -0700, Des Higgins
wrote and included this (or some of this):

There are lots and lots of anti-histamine tablets that do not knock
you out but I never found one that I like and that worked quickly and
that did not have worse side effects. For occasional use, piriton are
very cheap and very fast as long as you do not then go for a gunfight
or try to play rugby or drive a car. I only use them in emergencies.
I always take them with me when travelling in case I end up in a dusty
hotel room.

Tescos sell "Non-drowsy hayfever and allergy relief" tablets
(10mg Loratadine) which seem OK.



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In reply to ®óñ© © ²°¹°-°³ ) who wrote this in
, I, Marvo, say :

On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 01:56:13 -0700, Des Higgins
wrote and included this (or some of this):

There are lots and lots of anti-histamine tablets that do not knock
you out but I never found one that I like and that worked quickly and
that did not have worse side effects. For occasional use, piriton
are very cheap and very fast as long as you do not then go for a
gunfight or try to play rugby or drive a car. I only use them in
emergencies. I always take them with me when travelling in case I
end up in a dusty hotel room.

Tescos sell "Non-drowsy hayfever and allergy relief" tablets
(10mg Loratadine) which seem OK.

Somebody said the "T" word :-)

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In article ,
"Uncle Marvo" writes:
|
| Tescos sell "Non-drowsy hayfever and allergy relief" tablets
| (10mg Loratadine) which seem OK.
|
| Somebody said the "T" word :-)

Twaddle? Testicles? Tyranny? Tetrodotoxin?


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

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On 2/10/07 11:10, in article , "Uncle
Marvo" wrote:

snip

I have Zirtek (sp?) which don't knock me out. I must see if I can start a
gunfight later, when I've finished the game of rugby.

I also have cellulitis and Flucloxacillin, and a flea in the ear from Doc
who says not to touch that plant again, cos next time I might be doing
Nelson impressions.

Kiss me, Hardy.

I didn't even like the bl**dy thing much.



Just like me and bees so now I carry an Epipen if going to farflung places
and on holiday. Nobody is certain another sting *would* kill me but they'd
rather I didn't experiment! Get rid of that plant but for goodness sake
don't do it yourself. And do make sure that whoever does it doesn't leave
any twigs or thorns lying around that you might not see.
I haven't searched very exhaustively but I can't find any cautions about
toxicity in this plant so is it possible its been hit by some spray or other
and that you have, effectively, injected yourself with it? I have known
that happen to someone who pricked himself on a rose thorn and came very
close to death.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

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In reply to Sacha ) who wrote this in
, I, Marvo, say :

On 2/10/07 11:10, in article , "Uncle
Marvo" wrote:

snip

I have Zirtek (sp?) which don't knock me out. I must see if I can
start a gunfight later, when I've finished the game of rugby.

I also have cellulitis and Flucloxacillin, and a flea in the ear
from Doc who says not to touch that plant again, cos next time I
might be doing Nelson impressions.

Kiss me, Hardy.

I didn't even like the bl**dy thing much.



Just like me and bees so now I carry an Epipen if going to farflung
places and on holiday. Nobody is certain another sting *would* kill
me but they'd rather I didn't experiment! Get rid of that plant but
for goodness sake don't do it yourself. And do make sure that
whoever does it doesn't leave any twigs or thorns lying around that
you might not see.
I haven't searched very exhaustively but I can't find any cautions
about toxicity in this plant so is it possible its been hit by some
spray or other and that you have, effectively, injected yourself with
it? I have known that happen to someone who pricked himself on a
rose thorn and came very close to death.

I have searched too, and this one doesn't have any problems known to anyone
but me, it seems. I cut myself every time I go in the garden, rose thorns,
brambles etc, and no problem. It was killed by chemical means but it
attacked me before that. I don't think there are any chemicals other then
glyphosate on it though.

It's odd. It's a Chaenomeles Japonica (sp? Japanese Quince?) - or it was,
anyway. Now it's a pile of twigs. Deadly twigs :-)

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On Oct 2, 1:46 pm, "Uncle Marvo"
wrote:
In reply to Sacha ) who wrote this in
, I, Marvo, say :





On 2/10/07 11:10, in article , "Uncle
Marvo" wrote:

snip

I have Zirtek (sp?) which don't knock me out. I must see if I can
start a gunfight later, when I've finished the game of rugby.

I also have cellulitis and Flucloxacillin, and a flea in the ear
from Doc who says not to touch that plant again, cos next time I
might be doing Nelson impressions.

Kiss me, Hardy.

I didn't even like the bl**dy thing much.

Just like me and bees so now I carry an Epipen if going to farflung
places and on holiday. Nobody is certain another sting *would* kill
me but they'd rather I didn't experiment! Get rid of that plant but
for goodness sake don't do it yourself. And do make sure that
whoever does it doesn't leave any twigs or thorns lying around that
you might not see.
I haven't searched very exhaustively but I can't find any cautions
about toxicity in this plant so is it possible its been hit by some
spray or other and that you have, effectively, injected yourself with
it? I have known that happen to someone who pricked himself on a
rose thorn and came very close to death.

I have searched too, and this one doesn't have any problems known to anyone
but me, it seems. I cut myself every time I go in the garden, rose thorns,
brambles etc, and no problem. It was killed by chemical means but it
attacked me before that. I don't think there are any chemicals other then
glyphosate on it though.

It's odd. It's a Chaenomeles Japonica (sp? Japanese Quince?) - or it was,
anyway. Now it's a pile of twigs. Deadly twigs :-)- Hide quoted text -

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You can become sensitive to things whereas before you had no reaction
at all. I can't touch Juniper, huge red rash appears, it never used
to.

Judith