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I have been stabbed by (I think) A dead Japonica. Again.
Again, my arm has swollen up like a football. Does anyone know why this happens and what one should do about it (apart from spend half a day at the Doc's again, getting antibiotics)? |
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On 1/10/07 15:44, in article , "Uncle
Marvo" wrote: I have been stabbed by (I think) A dead Japonica. Again. Again, my arm has swollen up like a football. Does anyone know why this happens and what one should do about it (apart from spend half a day at the Doc's again, getting antibiotics)? Get rid of the japonica. I'm not joking. If you have that kind of allergic reaction and it's getting worse, not better, I'd avoid that particular plant like the plague. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove weeds from address) 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
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On Oct 1, 6:26 pm, (Nick Maclaren) wrote:
In article , Sacha writes: | On 1/10/07 15:44, in article , "Uncle| Marvo" wrote: | | I have been stabbed by (I think) A dead Japonica. Again. | | Again, my arm has swollen up like a football. | | Does anyone know why this happens and what one should do about it (apart | from spend half a day at the Doc's again, getting antibiotics)? | | Get rid of the japonica. I'm not joking. If you have that kind of allergic | reaction and it's getting worse, not better, I'd avoid that particular plant | like the plague. Agreed. And antibiotics are precisely what you DON'T want to take for such reactions - they aren't as harmful as when used to treat snakebite, but are still not good. Regards, Nick Maclaren. sounds right to me Nick; sounds allergic rather than infection by bugs; I remember getting antibiotics for hay fever when I was 7 and I self diagnosed hay fever later on (I still have it). Allergies can be nasty as they can get worse and worse each time; Sacha is right maybe (get someone else to get rid of it even); otherwise, piriton is over the counter from chemist, elephant strength antihistamine; stops sneezing in 15 mins and sends you to sleep 15 mins later; if you bloat badly next time, useful to have some handy. |
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On 2/10/07 09:19, in article , "Uncle
Marvo" wrote: snip I think you're all probably right. I've got a doc's appointment in a mo, I'll explain that it's the second case of the same plant. Best to check up while I've still got two arms [what's that that's just fallen off?] The Japonica's going just as soon as I can get the stump out - maybe it's time to pay someone else to do it, pesky thing. Piriton. zzzzzzzzz When I was asking about mozzie treatments someone told me that you can get anti-histamine tabs that don't knock you out. If I take Piriton I'm gone for a good two hours or more! -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove weeds from address) 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
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On Oct 2, 9:48 am, Sacha wrote:
On 2/10/07 09:19, in article , "Uncle Marvo" wrote: snip I think you're all probably right. I've got a doc's appointment in a mo, I'll explain that it's the second case of the same plant. Best to check up while I've still got two arms [what's that that's just fallen off?] The Japonica's going just as soon as I can get the stump out - maybe it's time to pay someone else to do it, pesky thing. Piriton. zzzzzzzzz When I was asking about mozzie treatments someone told me that you can get anti-histamine tabs that don't knock you out. If I take Piriton I'm gone for a good two hours or more! There are lots and lots of anti-histamine tablets that do not knock you out but I never found one that I like and that worked quickly and that did not have worse side effects. For occasional use, piriton are very cheap and very fast as long as you do not then go for a gunfight or try to play rugby or drive a car. I only use them in emergencies. I always take them with me when travelling in case I end up in a dusty hotel room. Other tablets I have tried sometimes take a day or two to get going and then give me racing heartbeat; it is grim to try to sleep with that. -- Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove weeds from address) 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
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On Mon, 1 Oct 2007 15:44:48 +0100, "Uncle Marvo"
wrote: I have been stabbed by (I think) A dead Japonica. Again. Again, my arm has swollen up like a football. Does anyone know why this happens and what one should do about it (apart from spend half a day at the Doc's again, getting antibiotics)? Get rid of the offending plants. Perhaps get someone else to remove them. -- http://www.orderonlinepickupinstore.co.uk Ah fetch it yourself if you can't wait for delivery http://www.freedeliveryuk.co.uk Or get it delivered for free |
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On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 01:56:13 -0700, Des Higgins
wrote and included this (or some of this): There are lots and lots of anti-histamine tablets that do not knock you out but I never found one that I like and that worked quickly and that did not have worse side effects. For occasional use, piriton are very cheap and very fast as long as you do not then go for a gunfight or try to play rugby or drive a car. I only use them in emergencies. I always take them with me when travelling in case I end up in a dusty hotel room. Tescos sell "Non-drowsy hayfever and allergy relief" tablets (10mg Loratadine) which seem OK. -- ®óñ© © ²°¹°-°³ |
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In article , "Uncle Marvo" writes: | | Tescos sell "Non-drowsy hayfever and allergy relief" tablets | (10mg Loratadine) which seem OK. | | Somebody said the "T" word :-) Twaddle? Testicles? Tyranny? Tetrodotoxin? Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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In reply to Sacha ) who wrote this in
, I, Marvo, say : On 2/10/07 11:10, in article , "Uncle Marvo" wrote: snip I have Zirtek (sp?) which don't knock me out. I must see if I can start a gunfight later, when I've finished the game of rugby. I also have cellulitis and Flucloxacillin, and a flea in the ear from Doc who says not to touch that plant again, cos next time I might be doing Nelson impressions. Kiss me, Hardy. I didn't even like the bl**dy thing much. Just like me and bees so now I carry an Epipen if going to farflung places and on holiday. Nobody is certain another sting *would* kill me but they'd rather I didn't experiment! Get rid of that plant but for goodness sake don't do it yourself. And do make sure that whoever does it doesn't leave any twigs or thorns lying around that you might not see. I haven't searched very exhaustively but I can't find any cautions about toxicity in this plant so is it possible its been hit by some spray or other and that you have, effectively, injected yourself with it? I have known that happen to someone who pricked himself on a rose thorn and came very close to death. I have searched too, and this one doesn't have any problems known to anyone but me, it seems. I cut myself every time I go in the garden, rose thorns, brambles etc, and no problem. It was killed by chemical means but it attacked me before that. I don't think there are any chemicals other then glyphosate on it though. It's odd. It's a Chaenomeles Japonica (sp? Japanese Quince?) - or it was, anyway. Now it's a pile of twigs. Deadly twigs :-) |
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On Oct 2, 1:46 pm, "Uncle Marvo"
wrote: In reply to Sacha ) who wrote this in , I, Marvo, say : On 2/10/07 11:10, in article , "Uncle Marvo" wrote: snip I have Zirtek (sp?) which don't knock me out. I must see if I can start a gunfight later, when I've finished the game of rugby. I also have cellulitis and Flucloxacillin, and a flea in the ear from Doc who says not to touch that plant again, cos next time I might be doing Nelson impressions. Kiss me, Hardy. I didn't even like the bl**dy thing much. Just like me and bees so now I carry an Epipen if going to farflung places and on holiday. Nobody is certain another sting *would* kill me but they'd rather I didn't experiment! Get rid of that plant but for goodness sake don't do it yourself. And do make sure that whoever does it doesn't leave any twigs or thorns lying around that you might not see. I haven't searched very exhaustively but I can't find any cautions about toxicity in this plant so is it possible its been hit by some spray or other and that you have, effectively, injected yourself with it? I have known that happen to someone who pricked himself on a rose thorn and came very close to death. I have searched too, and this one doesn't have any problems known to anyone but me, it seems. I cut myself every time I go in the garden, rose thorns, brambles etc, and no problem. It was killed by chemical means but it attacked me before that. I don't think there are any chemicals other then glyphosate on it though. It's odd. It's a Chaenomeles Japonica (sp? Japanese Quince?) - or it was, anyway. Now it's a pile of twigs. Deadly twigs :-)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You can become sensitive to things whereas before you had no reaction at all. I can't touch Juniper, huge red rash appears, it never used to. Judith |
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