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I had a really interesting newsletter from Downderry nurseries over the
weekend. They hold one of the national collections for lavenders and they gave some interesting facts. I never knew that people exhibiting at Chelsea and Hampton court could source their plants from anywhere they liked so the fact that their plants got top marks for quality meant that someone somewhere was not getting the Accord due to them! I assume they refer to the gardens but surely not the nurseries on display? They also gave some interesting tips about misnamed lavenders and name changes for marketing purposes. Pruning they said (to quote them) "Top Tip By now if your lavenders haven't been pruned......don't, with the exception of the large silver-leaved Dutch Group,*often referred to*by it's old name*Vera. Flower stems can be removed even now, but leave the beautiful foliage to brighten-up a winters' day. In the spring when the saps up just trim off a hands' width of foliage to keep the plants in shape. This is the only lavender we'd recommend pruning in spring because it flowers too late for early autumn pruning." If anyone would like to see the email/letter in full I'll be happy to forward it on.It does actually make me keen to buy from them again as they seem to care about their plants. Perhaps we ought to have a Hill House biyearly newsletter and tips for growing Sacha? :) Janet -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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In article , Sacha
writes Actually it's not for the web site Sacha more for interested customers who receive it as an email. Good for feeling that the nursery cares a lot about its plants and WANTS you to succeed:) -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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On 25/11/07 16:23, in article , "Janet
Tweedy" wrote: In article , Sacha writes Actually it's not for the web site Sacha more for interested customers who receive it as an email. Good for feeling that the nursery cares a lot about its plants and WANTS you to succeed:) Yes, we could do that. Good idea. But we would have to check people want to get such emails, otherwise they're an intrusive nuisance. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove weeds from address) 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
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In article ,
says... On 25/11/07 13:09, in article , "Janet Tweedy" wrote: I had a really interesting newsletter from Downderry nurseries over the weekend. They hold one of the national collections for lavenders and they gave some interesting facts. I never knew that people exhibiting at Chelsea and Hampton court could source their plants from anywhere they liked so the fact that their plants got top marks for quality meant that someone somewhere was not getting the Accord due to them! I assume they refer to the gardens but surely not the nurseries on display? I would think so, though quite how they'd prove it if a nursery stand bought in from elsewhere, I don't know. They also gave some interesting tips about misnamed lavenders and name changes for marketing purposes. Pruning they said (to quote them) "Top Tip By now if your lavenders haven't been pruned......don't, with the exception of the large silver-leaved Dutch Group,*often referred to*by it's old name*Vera. Flower stems can be removed even now, but leave the beautiful foliage to brighten-up a winters' day. In the spring when the saps up just trim off a hands' width of foliage to keep the plants in shape. This is the only lavender we'd recommend pruning in spring because it flowers too late for early autumn pruning." If anyone would like to see the email/letter in full I'll be happy to forward it on.It does actually make me keen to buy from them again as they seem to care about their plants. Perhaps we ought to have a Hill House biyearly newsletter and tips for growing Sacha? :) It's a possible for the new web site, Janet, if I can get Ray to sit down long enough to dictate it to me *and* tell me what's going on the mail order page etc! Now that Cormaic doesn't have time to maintain the faq and the urg ring, I wonder if some computer whiz and gardening expert here could take it on?? I know nothing about such things but there must be someone who could do it? I mention it because your lavender report strikes me as perfect for the faq, wouldn't you say? No I am afraid nurseries can and do buy in their displays, I can not see why they dont just sell used cars and have done with it. I won't mention names but I am sad to say its one of the Gold medal winning Cornish nurseries that I know do this every year and I can not imagine they are the only ones :~( -- Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall www.roselandhouse.co.uk Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and Lapageria rosea |
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In article , Sacha
writes Yes, we could do that. Good idea. But we would have to check people want to get such emails, otherwise they're an intrusive nuisance. I signed up for it when they sent me an email receipt of an order. So there's no fear of offending anyone that way. -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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In article , Charlie
Pridham writes No I am afraid nurseries can and do buy in their displays, I can not see why they dont just sell used cars and have done with it. I won't mention names but I am sad to say its one of the Gold medal winning Cornish nurseries that I know do this every year and I can not imagine they are the only ones :~( I think that's awful Charlie. Even our little show has the rule that the plant must have been in our possession for at least 6 months before showing. -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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On 25/11/07 18:49, in article
, "Charlie Pridham" wrote: In article , says... On 25/11/07 13:09, in article , "Janet Tweedy" wrote: I had a really interesting newsletter from Downderry nurseries over the weekend. They hold one of the national collections for lavenders and they gave some interesting facts. I never knew that people exhibiting at Chelsea and Hampton court could source their plants from anywhere they liked so the fact that their plants got top marks for quality meant that someone somewhere was not getting the Accord due to them! I assume they refer to the gardens but surely not the nurseries on display? I would think so, though quite how they'd prove it if a nursery stand bought in from elsewhere, I don't know. They also gave some interesting tips about misnamed lavenders and name changes for marketing purposes. Pruning they said (to quote them) "Top Tip By now if your lavenders haven't been pruned......don't, with the exception of the large silver-leaved Dutch Group,*often referred to*by it's old name*Vera. Flower stems can be removed even now, but leave the beautiful foliage to brighten-up a winters' day. In the spring when the saps up just trim off a hands' width of foliage to keep the plants in shape. This is the only lavender we'd recommend pruning in spring because it flowers too late for early autumn pruning." If anyone would like to see the email/letter in full I'll be happy to forward it on.It does actually make me keen to buy from them again as they seem to care about their plants. Perhaps we ought to have a Hill House biyearly newsletter and tips for growing Sacha? :) It's a possible for the new web site, Janet, if I can get Ray to sit down long enough to dictate it to me *and* tell me what's going on the mail order page etc! Now that Cormaic doesn't have time to maintain the faq and the urg ring, I wonder if some computer whiz and gardening expert here could take it on?? I know nothing about such things but there must be someone who could do it? I mention it because your lavender report strikes me as perfect for the faq, wouldn't you say? No I am afraid nurseries can and do buy in their displays, I can not see why they dont just sell used cars and have done with it. I won't mention names but I am sad to say its one of the Gold medal winning Cornish nurseries that I know do this every year and I can not imagine they are the only ones :~( Ooooh - very bad news, Charlie, if you mean in a nursery stand and not a display garden. That really is NOT honest dealing if a specialist nursery sells plants for which they are known but which actually come from others. Presumably customers expect that x y and z nursery specialising in lavender, azaleas or hyacinths are selling their own products if that's what they display on a stand dedicated to such plants. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove weeds from address) 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
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On 25/11/07 22:22, in article , "Janet
Tweedy" wrote: In article , Sacha writes Yes, we could do that. Good idea. But we would have to check people want to get such emails, otherwise they're an intrusive nuisance. I signed up for it when they sent me an email receipt of an order. So there's no fear of offending anyone that way. That's possible of course. But I now receive so many dozens of catalogues from all the (non garden) shopping I do online that I know that 'tick the no further info' box is simply ignored. I am particularly irritated to receive paper catalogues from companies that I order from only online. It's a tremendous waste of trees, time and money. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove weeds from address) 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
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says... On 25/11/07 18:49, in article , "Charlie Pridham" wrote: In article , says... On 25/11/07 13:09, in article , "Janet Tweedy" wrote: I had a really interesting newsletter from Downderry nurseries over the weekend. They hold one of the national collections for lavenders and they gave some interesting facts. I never knew that people exhibiting at Chelsea and Hampton court could source their plants from anywhere they liked so the fact that their plants got top marks for quality meant that someone somewhere was not getting the Accord due to them! I assume they refer to the gardens but surely not the nurseries on display? I would think so, though quite how they'd prove it if a nursery stand bought in from elsewhere, I don't know. They also gave some interesting tips about misnamed lavenders and name changes for marketing purposes. Pruning they said (to quote them) "Top Tip By now if your lavenders haven't been pruned......don't, with the exception of the large silver-leaved Dutch Group,*often referred to*by it's old name*Vera. Flower stems can be removed even now, but leave the beautiful foliage to brighten-up a winters' day. In the spring when the saps up just trim off a hands' width of foliage to keep the plants in shape. This is the only lavender we'd recommend pruning in spring because it flowers too late for early autumn pruning." If anyone would like to see the email/letter in full I'll be happy to forward it on.It does actually make me keen to buy from them again as they seem to care about their plants. Perhaps we ought to have a Hill House biyearly newsletter and tips for growing Sacha? :) It's a possible for the new web site, Janet, if I can get Ray to sit down long enough to dictate it to me *and* tell me what's going on the mail order page etc! Now that Cormaic doesn't have time to maintain the faq and the urg ring, I wonder if some computer whiz and gardening expert here could take it on?? I know nothing about such things but there must be someone who could do it? I mention it because your lavender report strikes me as I am told (by someone in their employ) that the plants are ordered for a show like Chelsea and are delivered for them to the show, they never even visit cornwall, they justify this by claiming they are from "partener nurseries" It gets worse, plants people order from them at the show are not owned by the nursery but are sourced after and delivered direct from the grower without ever visiting cornwall. I would not say the majority do it, most are indeed proud of their plants but the fact that at least one does (with the knowledge of the RHS apparently) means I have never wanted to go. -- Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall www.roselandhouse.co.uk Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and Lapageria rosea |
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On 26/11/07 08:34, in article
, "Charlie Pridham" wrote: snip I am told (by someone in their employ) that the plants are ordered for a show like Chelsea and are delivered for them to the show, they never even visit cornwall, they justify this by claiming they are from "partener nurseries" It gets worse, plants people order from them at the show are not owned by the nursery but are sourced after and delivered direct from the grower without ever visiting cornwall. I would not say the majority do it, most are indeed proud of their plants but the fact that at least one does (with the knowledge of the RHS apparently) means I have never wanted to go. Well, we've said we won't go again because of the crowding. I'd rather watch it on telly and actually prefer Hampton Court because it's easier to move around and you can buy plants on the day. But what you're saying is a real disgrace, IMO. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove weeds from address) 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
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On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 23:01:40 +0000, Sacha wrote
(in article ) : On 25/11/07 22:22, in article , "Janet Tweedy" wrote: In article , Sacha writes Yes, we could do that. Good idea. But we would have to check people want to get such emails, otherwise they're an intrusive nuisance. I signed up for it when they sent me an email receipt of an order. So there's no fear of offending anyone that way. That's possible of course. But I now receive so many dozens of catalogues from all the (non garden) shopping I do online that I know that 'tick the no further info' box is simply ignored. I am particularly irritated to receive paper catalogues from companies that I order from only online. It's a tremendous waste of trees, time and money. I so agree with you. I send them back, marking the envelope "no catalogues please". Lakeland are among the worst. At one time I was looking for some item and had SIX catalogues to go through, all in date. When I phoned them to say, could I just have one main catalogue a year, they said it wasn't possible - so I have now firmly opted for no catalogues at all from them, which is an edict they do obey. -- Sally in Shropshire, UK http://www.freerice.com/index.php Give free rice to hungry people by playing a simple word game |
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"Sally Thompson" wrote in message al.net... On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 23:01:40 +0000, Sacha wrote (in article ) : On 25/11/07 22:22, in article , "Janet Tweedy" wrote: In article , Sacha writes Yes, we could do that. Good idea. But we would have to check people want to get such emails, otherwise they're an intrusive nuisance. I signed up for it when they sent me an email receipt of an order. So there's no fear of offending anyone that way. That's possible of course. But I now receive so many dozens of catalogues from all the (non garden) shopping I do online that I know that 'tick the no further info' box is simply ignored. I am particularly irritated to receive paper catalogues from companies that I order from only online. It's a tremendous waste of trees, time and money. I so agree with you. I send them back, marking the envelope "no catalogues please". Lakeland are among the worst. At one time I was looking for some item and had SIX catalogues to go through, all in date. When I phoned them to say, could I just have one main catalogue a year, they said it wasn't possible - so I have now firmly opted for no catalogues at all from them, which is an edict they do obey. -- Sally in Shropshire, UK http://www.freerice.com/index.php Give free rice to hungry people by playing a simple word game I have 4 accounts with Viking Direct. Consequently I get 4 sets of catalogues each quarter and 4 sets of their sales catalogues each 'day' so it seems. I did explain that even though I have 4 accounts, they are for 4 different Associations and I am the only person dealing with them in the main part, could I just have 1 set to save trees. So they put a stop on ................. ALL of them. Had to telephone and ask for a catalogue. I now get all 4 again. I have just started another business, I daren't open another account with them!!!! Even though an opening account gets all sorts of useful goodies. Mike -- www.rnshipmates.co.uk for ALL Royal Navy Association matters www.rneba.org.uk. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association. 'THE' Association to find your ex-Greenie mess mates. www.iowtours.com for all ex-Service Reunions. More being added regularly "Navy Days" Portsmouth 25th - 27th July 2008. RN Shipmates will be there. |
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paper catalogues from companies that I order from only online. It's a
tremendous waste of trees, time and money. I made a one-off purchase of a little electric rotovator from a mail order company here in France. Every week since then they bombard me with junk mail. It must have cost them more in junk mail and postage than the profit they made from the one-off sale to me. I can live with a catalogue once in a while and don't mind a browse. The thing that irritates me are all the gimmicks - little pretend cheque books with so much percentage off with each item above a certain amount. Each week more junk mail from them with the discounts getting larger. Little "convenient" plastic cards with my "priority customer number" on them. They even sent me a folder to keep a copy of all my (one and only) orders in. Endless slips of paper emphasising how much I can save if I can get others to open an account blah... blah.. blah. It's worse than those awful Readers Digest type letters where they include lots of extra crap and a little key etc etc. At least they put their name on the envelope so you can chuck it straight into the bin without having to open it. -- David in Normandy |
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On 26/11/07 15:25, in article
, "Sally Thompson" wrote: On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 23:01:40 +0000, Sacha wrote (in article ) : On 25/11/07 22:22, in article , "Janet Tweedy" wrote: In article , Sacha writes Yes, we could do that. Good idea. But we would have to check people want to get such emails, otherwise they're an intrusive nuisance. I signed up for it when they sent me an email receipt of an order. So there's no fear of offending anyone that way. That's possible of course. But I now receive so many dozens of catalogues from all the (non garden) shopping I do online that I know that 'tick the no further info' box is simply ignored. I am particularly irritated to receive paper catalogues from companies that I order from only online. It's a tremendous waste of trees, time and money. I so agree with you. I send them back, marking the envelope "no catalogues please". Lakeland are among the worst. At one time I was looking for some item and had SIX catalogues to go through, all in date. When I phoned them to say, could I just have one main catalogue a year, they said it wasn't possible - so I have now firmly opted for no catalogues at all from them, which is an edict they do obey. Yes, it's one of my 'must do after Christmas' things. I'm going to email or ring every single company I deal with and ask them not to send me catalogues. I have all their details online and bookmarked so it really is a terrible waste. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove weeds from address) 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
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"David in Normandy" wrote in message ... .. At least they put their name on the envelope so you can chuck it straight into the bin without having to open it. -- David in Normandy Funny you should say that. In my Black Recycle Box at this very moment is ANOTHER catalogue from those 'Health Pill' merchants from Jersy or Gurnsey whichever one it is which came this morning :-(( Mike Junk Mail don't you just love it :-(( -- www.rnshipmates.co.uk for ALL Royal Navy Association matters www.rneba.org.uk. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association. 'THE' Association to find your ex-Greenie mess mates. www.iowtours.com for all ex-Service Reunions. More being added regularly "Navy Days" Portsmouth 25th - 27th July 2008. RN Shipmates will be there. |
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"Sacha" wrote in message . uk... Yes, it's one of my 'must do after Christmas' things. I'm going to email or ring every single company I deal with and ask them not to send me catalogues. I have all their details online and bookmarked so it really is a terrible waste. -- Sacha and if it works? PIGS WILL FLY Kindest regards Mike -- www.rnshipmates.co.uk for ALL Royal Navy Association matters www.rneba.org.uk. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association. 'THE' Association to find your ex-Greenie mess mates. www.iowtours.com for all ex-Service Reunions. More being added regularly "Navy Days" Portsmouth 25th - 27th July 2008. RN Shipmates will be there. |
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In article , 'Mike' says...
Junk Mail don't you just love it :-(( Once a week the postman delivers a big pile of (none- addressed) leaflets and catalogues. It seems to be common practice here in France. It comes in quite handy as we have a wood burning stove, and since we don't take any newspapers the leaflets all get used for lighting the fire. Kind of so many organisations to send us free paper to light our fire :-) -- David in Normandy |
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"David in Normandy" wrote in message ... In article , 'Mike' says... Junk Mail don't you just love it :-(( Once a week the postman delivers a big pile of (none- addressed) leaflets and catalogues. It seems to be common practice here in France. It comes in quite handy as we have a wood burning stove, and since we don't take any newspapers the leaflets all get used for lighting the fire. Kind of so many organisations to send us free paper to light our fire :-) -- David in Normandy """Every cloud has a Silver Lining""" """Never look a Gift Horse in the mouth""" """Carpe Diem"" (Which might just be over the heads of some readers, so "Seize the Day", "Seize your opportunity" my old school motto) Kindest regards Mike -- www.rnshipmates.co.uk for ALL Royal Navy Association matters www.rneba.org.uk. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association. 'THE' Association to find your ex-Greenie mess mates. www.iowtours.com for all ex-Service Reunions. More being added regularly "Navy Days" Portsmouth 25th - 27th July 2008. RN Shipmates will be there. |
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On 26/11/07 17:13, in article ,
"VivienB" wrote: On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 08:34:48 -0000, Charlie Pridham wrote: I am told (by someone in their employ) that the plants are ordered for a show like Chelsea and are delivered for them to the show, they never even visit cornwall, they justify this by claiming they are from "partener nurseries" It gets worse, plants people order from them at the show are not owned by the nursery but are sourced after and delivered direct from the grower without ever visiting cornwall. I would not say the majority do it, most are indeed proud of their plants but the fact that at least one does (with the knowledge of the RHS apparently) means I have never wanted to go. This might explain why a nursery in Cornwall, which used to be recommended often in magazines and broadsheet gardening pages for its mail-order plants, was such a tatty-looking disappointment when I visited it some years ago. One in particular did so many shows that on visiting the actual nursery, we did feel that attention to nursery business itself was spread too thinly. But that was some years ago. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove weeds from address) 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
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"David in Normandy" wrote in message ... .... It's worse than those awful Readers Digest type letters where they include lots of extra crap and a little key etc etc. At least they put their name on the envelope so you can chuck it straight into the bin without having to open it. I haven't had a RD mailing for years! But I get 'Health' catalogues almost daily :-) Mary |
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says... In article , 'Mike' says... Junk Mail don't you just love it :-(( Once a week the postman delivers a big pile of (none- addressed) leaflets and catalogues. It seems to be common practice here in France. It comes in quite handy as we have a wood burning stove, and since we don't take any newspapers the leaflets all get used for lighting the fire. Kind of so many organisations to send us free paper to light our fire :-) We shred ours, it makes good compost, I smile though that I personally get on average 3 offers of car insurance per day, strange really as I have never held a driving licence or owned a vehicle! Just think how much cheaper car insurance could be without the pointless waste, never mind the stationary, the cost of postage alone must be enormous, I worked it out a few years ago and to me alone it was over £300 per year, admittidly not all from the same firm. -- Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall www.roselandhouse.co.uk Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and Lapageria rosea |
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"Charlie Pridham" wrote in message ... In article , says... In article , 'Mike' says... Junk Mail don't you just love it :-(( Once a week the postman delivers a big pile of (none- addressed) leaflets and catalogues. It seems to be common practice here in France. It comes in quite handy as we have a wood burning stove, and since we don't take any newspapers the leaflets all get used for lighting the fire. Kind of so many organisations to send us free paper to light our fire :-) We shred ours, it makes good compost, I smile though that I personally get on average 3 offers of car insurance per day, strange really as I have never held a driving licence or owned a vehicle! Just think how much cheaper car insurance could be without the pointless waste, never mind the stationary, the cost of postage alone must be enormous, I worked it out a few years ago and to me alone it was over £300 per year, admittidly not all from the same firm. -- Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall www.roselandhouse.co.uk Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and Lapageria rosea Something I have been tempted do for years and years and years but never done it, is to stack up all the junk mail we get through the letter box and see just how high the pile is at the end of the year. January 1st to December 31st :-)) Anyone with room to do it? Mike -- www.rnshipmates.co.uk for ALL Royal Navy Association matters www.rneba.org.uk. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association. 'THE' Association to find your ex-Greenie mess mates. www.iowtours.com for all ex-Service Reunions. More being added regularly "Navy Days" Portsmouth 25th - 27th July 2008. RN Shipmates will be there. |
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In article ,
says... In article , says... In article , 'Mike' says... Junk Mail don't you just love it :-(( Once a week the postman delivers a big pile of (none- addressed) leaflets and catalogues. It seems to be common practice here in France. It comes in quite handy as we have a wood burning stove, and since we don't take any newspapers the leaflets all get used for lighting the fire. Kind of so many organisations to send us free paper to light our fire :-) We shred ours, it makes good compost, I smile though that I personally get on average 3 offers of car insurance per day, strange really as I have never held a driving licence or owned a vehicle! Just think how much cheaper car insurance could be without the pointless waste, never mind the stationary, the cost of postage alone must be enormous, I worked it out a few years ago and to me alone it was over £300 per year, admittidly not all from the same firm. Todays post brings 2 car insurance offers from Norwich union two from Privilege and one from Sheilas wheels! total 5, not a record but a good day for the compost heap! -- Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall www.roselandhouse.co.uk Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and Lapageria rosea |
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In article MPG.21b60d5be5291d01989708
@News.Individual.NET, Charlie Pridham says... In article , says... In article , says... In article , 'Mike' says... Junk Mail don't you just love it :-(( Once a week the postman delivers a big pile of (none- addressed) leaflets and catalogues. It seems to be common practice here in France. It comes in quite handy as we have a wood burning stove, and since we don't take any newspapers the leaflets all get used for lighting the fire. Kind of so many organisations to send us free paper to light our fire :-) We shred ours, it makes good compost, I smile though that I personally get on average 3 offers of car insurance per day, strange really as I have never held a driving licence or owned a vehicle! Just think how much cheaper car insurance could be without the pointless waste, never mind the stationary, the cost of postage alone must be enormous, I worked it out a few years ago and to me alone it was over £300 per year, admittidly not all from the same firm. Todays post brings 2 car insurance offers from Norwich union two from Privilege and one from Sheilas wheels! total 5, not a record but a good day for the compost heap! I would not be surprised that you are being targeted for car insurance because your address is possibly flagged up on a database as not having any car insurance currently associated with it - so therefore you must need some! A few years ago I did some IT work for a large UK company that collated and processed data from numerous sources. It is absolutely incredible the amount of information known about both individuals and addresses. This is frequently used for both highly targeted mailing campaigns right down to companies deciding where to build shopping centres, open a McDonalds etc etc. At the time I left they were creating a monster sized database that collated everything ever bought where they could be identified as the purchaser via their credit card number or loyalty card. These companies know more about you than you do. Note that if you paid for a copy of the dossier about you it would only include a tiny fraction about what is associated with you, typically only information on the credit check database. Lots of other databases are created "on the fly", collated from other databases for specific campaigns. There was talk at the time of also associating this information with on-line computer activity to provide very targeted advertising while surfing the web. Combine this with RF tags embedding in clothing and you could soon be walking past stores and a screen will light up and say something like "Hello Charlie Pridham - Isn't it time you replaced that old coat you are wearing? We have a new range of coats in your size. Come in and look". Big brother already exists. -- David in Normandy |
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In article , David in
Normandy writes . Combine this with RF tags embedding in clothing and you could soon be walking past stores and a screen will light up and say something like "Hello Charlie Pridham - Isn't it time you replaced that old coat you are wearing? We have a new range of coats in your size. Come in and look". Big brother already exists. Worry when it starts saying "Good lord Mrs David in Normandy, hasn't he bought you another coat for winter yet? He paid for a diamond bracelet just the other day and he's got HEAPS in his bank account unknown to you ...." :) -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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In article , Janet Tweedy
says... In article , David in Normandy writes . Combine this with RF tags embedding in clothing and you could soon be walking past stores and a screen will light up and say something like "Hello Charlie Pridham - Isn't it time you replaced that old coat you are wearing? We have a new range of coats in your size. Come in and look". Big brother already exists. Worry when it starts saying "Good lord Mrs David in Normandy, hasn't he bought you another coat for winter yet? He paid for a diamond bracelet just the other day and he's got HEAPS in his bank account unknown to you ...." :) As the old famous sailors toast goes "Here is a toast to our wives and girlfriends - may they never meet." :-) Joking aside, lack of privacy has already got that bad for those people who are registered on the Facebook website. It has caused a lot of concern recently because it tells people what their "friends" buy from other web sites. As someone commented "What if you'd just discretely bought a book off Amazon called How to cope with H.I.V.?" -- David in Normandy |
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says... In article MPG.21b60d5be5291d01989708 @News.Individual.NET, Charlie Pridham says... In article , says... In article , says... In article , 'Mike' says... Junk Mail don't you just love it :-(( Once a week the postman delivers a big pile of (none- addressed) leaflets and catalogues. It seems to be common practice here in France. It comes in quite handy as we have a wood burning stove, and since we don't take any newspapers the leaflets all get used for lighting the fire. Kind of so many organisations to send us free paper to light our fire :-) We shred ours, it makes good compost, I smile though that I personally get on average 3 offers of car insurance per day, strange really as I have never held a driving licence or owned a vehicle! Just think how much cheaper car insurance could be without the pointless waste, never mind the stationary, the cost of postage alone must be enormous, I worked it out a few years ago and to me alone it was over £300 per year, admittidly not all from the same firm. Todays post brings 2 car insurance offers from Norwich union two from Privilege and one from Sheilas wheels! total 5, not a record but a good day for the compost heap! I would not be surprised that you are being targeted for car insurance because your address is possibly flagged up on a database as not having any car insurance currently associated with it - so therefore you must need some! A few years ago I did some IT work for a large UK company that collated and processed data from numerous sources. It is absolutely incredible the amount of information known about both individuals and addresses. This is frequently used for both highly targeted mailing campaigns right down to companies deciding where to build shopping centres, open a McDonalds etc etc. At the time I left they were creating a monster sized database that collated everything ever bought where they could be identified as the purchaser via their credit card number or loyalty card. These companies know more about you than you do. Note that if you paid for a copy of the dossier about you it would only include a tiny fraction about what is Well there is a vehicle here, a van, but it belongs to my wife not me. I think what annoys me about a lot of these mail shots is that when you do decide to phone up for a price they never want to sell you anything anyway - as soon as they here its a van we want a price on, they just hang up, same with house insurance, none of the companies that mail shot are prepared to offer insurance on anything out of the ordinary and we only get as far as what the house built of and again they hang up. which would be fine if they would then take us off their lists!! What it to do with gardening, well two years ago one company refused to quote on the grounds we had a garden !!! -- Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall www.roselandhouse.co.uk Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and Lapageria rosea |
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Normandy wrote paper catalogues from companies that I order from only online. It's a tremendous waste of trees, time and money. I made a one-off purchase of a little electric rotovator from a mail order company here in France. Every week since then they bombard me with junk mail. It must have cost them more in junk mail and postage than the profit they made from the one-off sale to me. I'm still getting catalogues addressed to the previous owner of my house despite returning reply paid envelopes that ask if the catalogue is still required. The previous owner died around 25 years ago! -- Alan news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com |
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On 27/11/07 23:09, in article , "Alan"
wrote: In message , David in Normandy wrote paper catalogues from companies that I order from only online. It's a tremendous waste of trees, time and money. I made a one-off purchase of a little electric rotovator from a mail order company here in France. Every week since then they bombard me with junk mail. It must have cost them more in junk mail and postage than the profit they made from the one-off sale to me. I'm still getting catalogues addressed to the previous owner of my house despite returning reply paid envelopes that ask if the catalogue is still required. The previous owner died around 25 years ago! Return them with 'deceased' written in large, black capital letters on the envelope. My personal philosophy is that one should not do this unless it's the truth. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove weeds from address) 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
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