Hello all,

We have a new allotment, and it has a patch of very neglected raspberry
canes. I am used to a variety of rasp which fruits on last years wood
which then dies and is pruned out completely, but the the canes in the
new allotment are different. They are huge in comparison, 8 to 10 foot
high, and they have obviously fruited on the last years growth, but only
on the top foot or so, there is also lots of dead wood from earlier
years. Can you tell me from this description what variety they might
be, and should I prune the last years growth (on the assumption that
this is a variety which fruits on the current years growth)?

Thanks for any help,

All the best,

Chris Potts

Hello Chris
There are two types of raspberries - Summer fruiting which fruit on
last years canes and autumn raspberries that fruit on this years
canes.
Anne suggests cutting the lot down - which has some merit in that you
clear the groound, remove any infected material and can clearly see
what is there - but you might not get a crop of berries if they are
the summer fruiting kind.
An alternative, if you can't stand the thought of being without fruit
is to prune out all wood that shows signs of having fruited, you
should see the flower stalks still in the canes. Those will fruit
next year - even if they are autumn fruited ones. Leaving non
fruiting primocanes (autumn fruiting raspberry canes) will yeild a
summer crop.
So how will you know what kind you have. Well if you leave the non
fruiting canes and they fruit in the summer - it could be either,
however if the new canes that grow this year fruit, then you have
autumn raspberries.
Raspberries have a life of 12-15 years before becoming tired. 10 new
canes can cost around the £10-12 mark out of the catalogues. So the
choice is yours....
Good luck

Clifford
Bawtry, Doncaster, South Yorkshire.

Last winter I planted 6 early, 6 mid and 6 late fruiting raspberries in a single row. I thought I had taken a note of the sequence, but am now confused. I thought I might get some clues as to which were which when they fruited but didn't. In the autumn I pruned out all canes that had fruited. I understand I should now be pruning the autumn variety down to the ground. How can I tell which is the Autumn variety?

Close to the raspberry is the tayberry. I bought one as a gift for a
neighbour last week after being very impressed by what the nurseryman
told me about it. But as I have never grown tayberries myself and not
seen Tayberry Jam in the shops, I'ld be interested to know of people's
experiences. Is it as great as those selling it claim it to be?

Eddy.

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Eddy writes:
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| Close to the raspberry is the tayberry. I bought one as a gift for a
| neighbour last week after being very impressed by what the nurseryman
| told me about it. But as I have never grown tayberries myself and not
| seen Tayberry Jam in the shops, I'ld be interested to know of people's
| experiences. Is it as great as those selling it claim it to be?

I am growing one for the first time, but it's just another bramble
hybrid. Don't get me wrong - many of those are first-class - but
it's not much different from a loganberry or boysenberry in quality.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

In article , (Nick
Maclaren) wrote:

Don't get me wrong - many of those are first-class - but
it's not much different from a loganberry or boysenberry in quality.

Tayberry is sweeter though and is nice eaten raw in my experience.

Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com
A useful bit of gardening software at http://www.netservs.com/garden/

Eddy wrote:
Close to the raspberry is the tayberry. I bought one as a gift for a
neighbour last week after being very impressed by what the nurseryman
told me about it. But as I have never grown tayberries myself and not
seen Tayberry Jam in the shops, I'ld be interested to know of people's
experiences. Is it as great as those selling it claim it to be?

Eddy.


Pretty good eaten raw and makes great jam. Yo get quite a crop from one
plant.


--
CTC Right to Ride Rep. for Richmond upon Thames

DaleR wrote:




Last winter I planted 6 early, 6 mid and 6 late fruiting raspberries in
a single row. I thought I had taken a note of the sequence, but am now
confused. I thought I might get some clues as to which were which when
they fruited but didn't. In the autumn I pruned out all canes that had
fruited. I understand I should now be pruning the autumn variety down
to the ground. How can I tell which is the Autumn variety?


In principle it is the variety that hasn't made (much) regrowth yet
after cutting out the fruited canes.

--
CTC Right to Ride Rep. for Richmond upon Thames

Dale,
You have done the right thing removing the fruiting canes.
But from the canes left, you can't tell. If you have some unfruited
autumn canes present they will just fruit earlier - Early August may
be.
At the end of the day it doesn't matter.
The idea of cutting the fruited autumn canes down is that they produce
a poor crop if left in place, so its better to remove and crop of
unfruited canes.
Hope that makes sense
Clifford
Bawtry, Doncaster, South Yorkshire.

cliff_the_gardener wrote:
Dale,
You have done the right thing removing the fruiting canes.
But from the canes left, you can't tell. If you have some unfruited
autumn canes present they will just fruit earlier - Early August may
be.

My experience is they fruit very early - mid/end of June. I always leave
one or two canes that didn't autumn fruit (or only at the very tip)
especially to get them very early the following June.

At the end of the day it doesn't matter.
The idea of cutting the fruited autumn canes down is that they produce
a poor crop if left in place, so its better to remove and crop of
unfruited canes.

They only provide a poor crop if they have fruited significantly down
the cane.

On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 20:53:39 +0000, Chris J Potts
wrote:

Hello all,

We have a new allotment, and it has a patch of very neglected raspberry
canes. I am used to a variety of rasp which fruits on last years wood
which then dies and is pruned out completely, but the the canes in the
new allotment are different. They are huge in comparison, 8 to 10 foot
high, and they have obviously fruited on the last years growth, but only
on the top foot or so, there is also lots of dead wood from earlier
years. Can you tell me from this description what variety they might
be, and should I prune the last years growth (on the assumption that
this is a variety which fruits on the current years growth)?


I have a lot of raspberry canes on my allotment, and although some
were planted as Summer-fruiting and some as Auntumn-fruiting, I now
cut them all down in the winter and get a good succession of fruits.

Pam in Bristol

On 12 Jan, 16:50, Pam Moore wrote:
I have a lot of raspberry canes on my allotment, and although some
were planted as Summer-fruiting and some as Auntumn-fruiting, I now
cut them all down in the winter and get a good succession of fruits.

My friend does this and she says it hasn't made any difference, she
still gets a good yield every year.

I am searching desperately for the rubus caesius, the dewberry. It is
listed but I can't find suppliers. Also I'm looking for a crabapple,
malus pumila Red Glow. Listed is the 'pink glow' but not red glow. Any
idea?

On 13 Jan, 14:52, wrote:
On 12 Jan, 16:50, Pam Moore wrote:

I have a lot of raspberry canes on my allotment, and although some
were planted as Summer-fruiting and some as Auntumn-fruiting, I now
cut them all down in the winter and get a good succession of fruits.

My friend does this and she says it hasn't made any difference, she
still gets a good yield every year.

I am searching desperately for the rubus caesius, the dewberry. It is
listed but I can't find suppliers. Also I'm looking for a crabapple,
malus pumila Red Glow. Listed is the 'pink glow' but not red glow. Any
idea?

On 13 Jan, 14:52, wrote:
On 12 Jan, 16:50, Pam Moore wrote:

I have a lot of raspberry canes on my allotment, and although some
were planted as Summer-fruiting and some as Auntumn-fruiting, I now
cut them all down in the winter and get a good succession of fruits.

My friend does this and she says it hasn't made any difference, she
still gets a good yield every year.

I am searching desperately for the rubus caesius, the dewberry. It is
listed but I can't find suppliers. Also I'm looking for a crabapple,
malus pumila Red Glow. Listed is the 'pink glow' but not red glow. Any
idea?

Pink glow not in the national collection at Brogdale, so can't
propogate it for you. Keepers do it - to order.
http://www.keepers-nursery.co.uk/dolgo_variety.aspx

As for the Rasps, If the fruit in the same season the likelyhood is
that the autumn fruited ones have taken over, because if you cut a
summer fruiting raps down it will only fruit the following year.
Commercial plantings for a crop of summer fruiting rasps, the plants
are sold as long canes, not cut down, inorder to get a crop the same
year. They also irrigate heavily inorder to encourage new growth.
Regards
Clifford
Bawtry, Doncaster, South Yorkshire

On Jan 14, 6:11*pm, cliff_the_gardener
wrote:

Pink glow not in the national collection at Brogdale, so can't
propogate it for you. *Keepers do it - to order.http://www.keepers-nursery.co.uk/dolgo_variety.aspx

Thank you very much Cliff but it's the malus pumila that I'm after not
the dolgo. I'm no expert and perhaps I'm making an obvious mistake. Am
I?