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Sacha 10-01-2008 03:02 PM

OT ISP query
 
Anyone any idea why Orange has suddenly gone berserk and re-sent me all my
emails from mid December onwards, some of them 4 times?!

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



David in Normandy[_6_] 10-01-2008 04:00 PM

OT ISP query
 
Sacha says...
Anyone any idea why Orange has suddenly gone berserk and re-sent me all my
emails from mid December onwards, some of them 4 times?!


They must have had a glitch, perhaps had to do a restore
and lost track of what they'd already sent. More concerning
would be any that they have lost. I used to subscribe to a
daily news email from the BBC. On one occasion they sent me
the same email more than 20 times over the course of a few
minutes. Ain't technology wonderful?
--
David in Normandy

Sacha 10-01-2008 04:29 PM

OT ISP query
 
On 10/1/08 16:00, in article ,
"David in Normandy" wrote:

Sacha says...
Anyone any idea why Orange has suddenly gone berserk and re-sent me all my
emails from mid December onwards, some of them 4 times?!


They must have had a glitch, perhaps had to do a restore
and lost track of what they'd already sent. More concerning
would be any that they have lost. I used to subscribe to a
daily news email from the BBC. On one occasion they sent me
the same email more than 20 times over the course of a few
minutes. Ain't technology wonderful?



I don't think I've lost anything vital but over Christmas one friend kept
trying to send me emails which bounced time and again. Others were having
no trouble at all.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



'Mike' 10-01-2008 04:39 PM

OT ISP query
 



"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
On 10/1/08 16:00, in article ,
"David in Normandy" wrote:

Sacha says...
Anyone any idea why Orange has suddenly gone berserk and re-sent me all
my
emails from mid December onwards, some of them 4 times?!


They must have had a glitch, perhaps had to do a restore
and lost track of what they'd already sent. More concerning
would be any that they have lost. I used to subscribe to a
daily news email from the BBC. On one occasion they sent me
the same email more than 20 times over the course of a few
minutes. Ain't technology wonderful?



I don't think I've lost anything vital but over Christmas one friend kept
trying to send me emails which bounced time and again. Others were having
no trouble at all.

--
Sacha



Was that person in the same position as me cruising? I had some problems
from time to time with Satellite links on Cunard's Queen Victoria. All
worked out OK in the end though :-))

Kind regards

Mike


--
www.rnshipmates.co.uk for ALL Royal Navy Association matters
www.rneba.org.uk. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association.
'THE' Association to find your ex-Greenie mess mates.
www.iowtours.com for all ex-Service Reunions. More being added regularly
"Navy Days" Portsmouth 25th - 27th July 2008. RN Shipmates will be there.




Sacha 10-01-2008 05:43 PM

OT ISP query
 
On 10/1/08 17:35, in article ,
"Steve Wolstenholme" wrote:

On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 15:02:49 +0000, Sacha
wrote:

Anyone any idea why Orange has suddenly gone berserk and re-sent me all my
emails from mid December onwards, some of them 4 times?!


My next door neighbour has had problems with Orange. He reckons they
resend emails when the originals are lost. If yours were not lost then
you finish up with two copies.

Steve

In this instance I ended up with about four of each, including some of the
Junk. I find their service has become very erratic and I think I'm going to
have to do something drastic. All that deters me is that my email addy is
on our brochures and the thought of all the people I'll have to notify!

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



David in Normandy[_6_] 10-01-2008 05:59 PM

OT ISP query
 
Sacha says...
In this instance I ended up with about four of each, including some of the
Junk. I find their service has become very erratic and I think I'm going to
have to do something drastic. All that deters me is that my email addy is
on our brochures and the thought of all the people I'll have to notify!


Best to use an email address associated with your own web
site domain name. That way you own the email address and it
doesn't matter who you use as an ISP or for that matter who
does the web hosting. You can move and change providers as
you like then. I think it may also look more professional
to use an email address that matches the web site domain.

I've completely abandoned my ISP email address with Wanadoo
/ Orange. I don't know what they did wrong but that address
suddenly started attracting 100's of spams a week. Odd
thing was I never used that address anyway, so the spammers
could only have got the email address directly from Wanadoo
/ Orange? Perhaps a hacker got in and lifted everyone's
email address. Lots of people were hit at the same time.

--
David in Normandy

hugh 10-01-2008 07:23 PM

OT ISP query
 
In message , Sacha
writes
On 10/1/08 16:00, in article ,
"David in Normandy" wrote:

Sacha says...
Anyone any idea why Orange has suddenly gone berserk and re-sent me all my
emails from mid December onwards, some of them 4 times?!


They must have had a glitch, perhaps had to do a restore
and lost track of what they'd already sent. More concerning
would be any that they have lost. I used to subscribe to a
daily news email from the BBC. On one occasion they sent me
the same email more than 20 times over the course of a few
minutes. Ain't technology wonderful?



I don't think I've lost anything vital but over Christmas one friend kept
trying to send me emails which bounced time and again. Others were having
no trouble at all.

Possibly your ISP had decided to blacklist their ISP perhaps because a
spammer had hijacked someone's valid address on that ISP and was using
it to send out spam. Happened to me. Fortunately my ISP uses static IP
addresses so I was able to get mine white listed by the commonest anti
spam software.
--
hugh
Reply to address is valid at the time of posting

hugh 10-01-2008 07:26 PM

OT ISP query
 
In message , Sacha
writes
On 10/1/08 17:35, in article ,
"Steve Wolstenholme" wrote:

On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 15:02:49 +0000, Sacha
wrote:

Anyone any idea why Orange has suddenly gone berserk and re-sent me all my
emails from mid December onwards, some of them 4 times?!


My next door neighbour has had problems with Orange. He reckons they
resend emails when the originals are lost. If yours were not lost then
you finish up with two copies.

Steve

In this instance I ended up with about four of each, including some of the
Junk. I find their service has become very erratic and I think I'm going to
have to do something drastic. All that deters me is that my email addy is
on our brochures and the thought of all the people I'll have to notify!

That's the advantage of having your own domain name with e-mail
forwarding. You can switch it to a different underlying ISP easily at
zero cost.

Domain names only cost a few pounds per annum Well worth it.
--
hugh
Reply to address is valid at the time of posting

®óñ© © ²°¹°-°² 10-01-2008 08:53 PM

OT ISP query
 
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:59:22 +0100, David in Normandy
wrote and included this (or some of this):

I've completely abandoned my ISP email address with Wanadoo
/ Orange. I don't know what they did wrong but that address
suddenly started attracting 100's of spams a week


Exactly the same here. Account now abandoned and dormant but no
doubt storing up fausands of junk posts.


--
®óñ© © ²°¹°-°²

Sacha 10-01-2008 10:24 PM

OT ISP query
 
On 10/1/08 17:59, in article ,
"David in Normandy" wrote:

Sacha says...
In this instance I ended up with about four of each, including some of the
Junk. I find their service has become very erratic and I think I'm going to
have to do something drastic. All that deters me is that my email addy is
on our brochures and the thought of all the people I'll have to notify!


Best to use an email address associated with your own web
site domain name. That way you own the email address and it
doesn't matter who you use as an ISP or for that matter who
does the web hosting. You can move and change providers as
you like then. I think it may also look more professional
to use an email address that matches the web site domain.


Yes, that's going to be part of the new site that's being built now. Most
of it is done and running but the mail order bits and smaller tweaks still
need doing.

I've completely abandoned my ISP email address with Wanadoo
/ Orange. I don't know what they did wrong but that address
suddenly started attracting 100's of spams a week. Odd
thing was I never used that address anyway, so the spammers
could only have got the email address directly from Wanadoo
/ Orange? Perhaps a hacker got in and lifted everyone's
email address. Lots of people were hit at the same time.


I have had over 5k of junk mail since just before Christmas.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Sacha 10-01-2008 10:26 PM

OT ISP query
 
On 10/1/08 19:24, in article ,
"Steve Wolstenholme" wrote:

On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:43:20 +0000, Sacha
wrote:

In this instance I ended up with about four of each, including some of the
Junk. I find their service has become very erratic and I think I'm going to
have to do something drastic. All that deters me is that my email addy is
on our brochures and the thought of all the people I'll have to notify!


Your email address should not be tied to Orange? It looks like a host
address to me. Who is the website host?

Steve


Pass. I know nothing about these things but I'll check. Clara, I think
because Cormaic did the re-design after David Poole's and my son has simply
rebuilt on that AFAIK.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Sacha 10-01-2008 10:27 PM

OT ISP query
 
On 10/1/08 21:55, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:59:22 +0100, David in Normandy
wrote:

Sacha says...
In this instance I ended up with about four of each, including some of the
Junk. I find their service has become very erratic and I think I'm going to
have to do something drastic. All that deters me is that my email addy is
on our brochures and the thought of all the people I'll have to notify!


Best to use an email address associated with your own web
site domain name. That way you own the email address and it
doesn't matter who you use as an ISP or for that matter who
does the web hosting. You can move and change providers as
you like then. I think it may also look more professional
to use an email address that matches the web site domain.

I've completely abandoned my ISP email address with Wanadoo
/ Orange. I don't know what they did wrong but that address
suddenly started attracting 100's of spams a week.


My wife has the same problem with wanadoo/orange I suspect one of their
ex-staff
sold their customers' e-mail lists or their computers have been hacked.


It seems very likely. Thanks for all the advice everyone. By coincidence
my computer guru rang tonight and will be coming up next week, if not this
w/e.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Sally Thompson 11-01-2008 09:16 AM

OT ISP query
 
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:26:01 +0000, Sacha wrote
(in article ) :

On 10/1/08 19:24, in article ,
"Steve Wolstenholme" wrote:

On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:43:20 +0000, Sacha
wrote:

snip
All that deters me is that my email addy is
on our brochures and the thought of all the people I'll have to notify!


Your email address should not be tied to Orange? It looks like a host
address to me. Who is the website host?

Steve


Pass. I know nothing about these things but I'll check. Clara, I think
because Cormaic did the re-design after David Poole's and my son has simply
rebuilt on that AFAIK.



Sacha, I am replying to you about this off the group (prob this afternoon
because I'm just rushing out).

--
Sally in Shropshire, UK
http://www.freerice.com/index.php
Give free rice to hungry people by playing a simple word game



Sacha 11-01-2008 09:57 AM

OT ISP query
 
On 11/1/08 09:16, in article
, "Sally Thompson"
wrote:

On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:26:01 +0000, Sacha wrote
(in article ) :

On 10/1/08 19:24, in article
,
"Steve Wolstenholme" wrote:

On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:43:20 +0000, Sacha
wrote:

snip
All that deters me is that my email addy is
on our brochures and the thought of all the people I'll have to notify!

Your email address should not be tied to Orange? It looks like a host
address to me. Who is the website host?

Steve


Pass. I know nothing about these things but I'll check. Clara, I think
because Cormaic did the re-design after David Poole's and my son has simply
rebuilt on that AFAIK.



Sacha, I am replying to you about this off the group (prob this afternoon
because I'm just rushing out).


Well, there's an example for you! I've had nothing yet from you,Sally. So
if you've sent it please could you send again. If you haven't because
you're busy, please, sit down, have a cup of tea, relax and then stroll in a
leisurely fashion to your computer....... ;-))

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



'Mike' 11-01-2008 10:08 AM

OT ISP query
 


Sacha, I am replying to you about this off the group (prob this afternoon
because I'm just rushing out).


Well, there's an example for you! I've had nothing yet from you,Sally.
So
if you've sent it please could you send again. If you haven't because
you're busy, please, sit down, have a cup of tea, relax and then stroll in
a
leisurely fashion to your computer....... ;-))

--
Sacha



????

"" (prob this afternoon because I'm just rushing out).""

?????

Kind regards

Mike




--
www.rneba.org.uk. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association.
'THE' Association to find your ex-Greenie mess mates.
www.iowtours.com for all ex-Service Reunions. More being added regularly






[email protected] 11-01-2008 10:25 AM

OT ISP query
 
On 10 Jan, 21:55, Martin wrote:
I've completely abandoned my ISP email address with Wanadoo
/ Orange. I don't know what they did wrong but that address
suddenly started attracting 100's of spams a week.


My wife has the same problem with wanadoo/orange I suspect one of their ex-staff
sold their customers' e-mail lists or their computers have been hacked.



The standard excuse is "it was a dictionary attack", but my mail
provider, mail.com, and my ISP (f2s) manages to survive those
remarkably well.

whatever sort of email address I set up for my wife is attacked within
a few hours of her starting to use it. I think one of her friends/
business contacts is infected with something that passes on valid
email addresses. I could set up some disposables and do an
elimination test, but it's more than fat and bone can bear. it's all
allegedly my fault, somehow.


David in Normandy[_6_] 11-01-2008 01:32 PM

OT ISP query
 
Martin says...
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:24:25 +0000, Sacha
wrote:

On 10/1/08 17:59, in article ,
"David in Normandy" wrote:

Sacha says...
In this instance I ended up with about four of each, including some of the
Junk. I find their service has become very erratic and I think I'm going to
have to do something drastic. All that deters me is that my email addy is
on our brochures and the thought of all the people I'll have to notify!


Best to use an email address associated with your own web
site domain name. That way you own the email address and it
doesn't matter who you use as an ISP or for that matter who
does the web hosting. You can move and change providers as
you like then. I think it may also look more professional
to use an email address that matches the web site domain.


Yes, that's going to be part of the new site that's being built now. Most
of it is done and running but the mail order bits and smaller tweaks still
need doing.

I've completely abandoned my ISP email address with Wanadoo
/ Orange. I don't know what they did wrong but that address
suddenly started attracting 100's of spams a week. Odd
thing was I never used that address anyway, so the spammers
could only have got the email address directly from Wanadoo
/ Orange? Perhaps a hacker got in and lifted everyone's
email address. Lots of people were hit at the same time.


I have had over 5k of junk mail since just before Christmas.


I get around 100 a day. Orange.nl provides a service to identify and isolate
junk mail and viruses. None of it gets as far as my PC.

orange.fr now supply a similar feature. However, the odd
spam (1 in 50) still reaches the orange inbox. Since
abandoning the account the only valid email is orange's
monthly bill.

I've only got dial up here in rural France and the Orange
web site is incredibly slow to load (around 2 - 3 minutes)
due to all the high definition advert images, so I rarely
visit orange web mail. Or go and make a coffee while their
site loads! Occasionally I go and tip all the spam into the
junk folder. Knowing Orange, if the amount of spam was
allowed to reach ridiculous proportions they would probably
start charging for extra disk space or do they
automatically delete spam after so long anyway?

I change my main personal, domain based, email address
around once a year if it starts picking up spam. So in
practice spam isn't really a problem for me.

I use a password protected email address for contact via my
web site and for strangers and that completely throws the
spammers.
--
David in Normandy

Sally Thompson 11-01-2008 03:10 PM

OT ISP query
 
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:57:25 +0000, Sacha wrote
(in article ) :

On 11/1/08 09:16, in article
, "Sally Thompson"
wrote:

On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:26:01 +0000, Sacha wrote
(in article ) :

On 10/1/08 19:24, in article
,
"Steve Wolstenholme" wrote:

On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:43:20 +0000, Sacha
wrote:

snip
All that deters me is that my email addy is
on our brochures and the thought of all the people I'll have to notify!

Your email address should not be tied to Orange? It looks like a host
address to me. Who is the website host?

Steve

Pass. I know nothing about these things but I'll check. Clara, I think
because Cormaic did the re-design after David Poole's and my son has simply
rebuilt on that AFAIK.



Sacha, I am replying to you about this off the group (prob this afternoon
because I'm just rushing out).


Well, there's an example for you! I've had nothing yet from you,Sally. So
if you've sent it please could you send again. If you haven't because
you're busy, please, sit down, have a cup of tea, relax and then stroll in a
leisurely fashion to your computer....... ;-))



cough
What part of "prob this afternoon" didn't you understand? vbg. Back now,
looking outside at thick SNOW!! Very pretty, but wondering how well stocked
up we are with such vital things as spuds. However, the brandy bottle is
full and we have plenty of logs, so life won't be all bad if we are cut off.
Will email you in a mo.

--
Sally in Shropshire, UK
Burne-Jones/William Morris window in Shropshire church with conservation
churchyard:
http://www.whitton-stmarys.org.uk



'Mike' 11-01-2008 03:18 PM

OT ISP query
 

Sacha, I am replying to you about this off the group (prob this
afternoon
because I'm just rushing out).


Well, there's an example for you! I've had nothing yet from you,Sally.
So
if you've sent it please could you send again. If you haven't because
you're busy, please, sit down, have a cup of tea, relax and then stroll
in a
leisurely fashion to your computer....... ;-))



cough
What part of "prob this afternoon" didn't you understand?


:-))

Kindest regards

Mike


--
www.rneba.org.uk. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association.
'THE' Association to find your ex-Greenie mess mates.
www.iowtours.com for all ex-Service Reunions. More being added regularly





Sacha 11-01-2008 03:31 PM

OT ISP query
 
On 11/1/08 15:10, in article
, "Sally Thompson"
wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:57:25 +0000, Sacha wrote
(in article ) :

On 11/1/08 09:16, in article
, "Sally Thompson"
wrote:

On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:26:01 +0000, Sacha wrote
(in article ) :

On 10/1/08 19:24, in article
,
"Steve Wolstenholme" wrote:

On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:43:20 +0000, Sacha
wrote:

snip
All that deters me is that my email addy is
on our brochures and the thought of all the people I'll have to notify!

Your email address should not be tied to Orange? It looks like a host
address to me. Who is the website host?

Steve

Pass. I know nothing about these things but I'll check. Clara, I think
because Cormaic did the re-design after David Poole's and my son has simply
rebuilt on that AFAIK.



Sacha, I am replying to you about this off the group (prob this afternoon
because I'm just rushing out).


Well, there's an example for you! I've had nothing yet from you,Sally. So
if you've sent it please could you send again. If you haven't because
you're busy, please, sit down, have a cup of tea, relax and then stroll in a
leisurely fashion to your computer....... ;-))



cough
What part of "prob this afternoon" didn't you understand? vbg. Back now,
looking outside at thick SNOW!! Very pretty, but wondering how well stocked
up we are with such vital things as spuds. However, the brandy bottle is
full and we have plenty of logs, so life won't be all bad if we are cut off.
Will email you in a mo.


It's my birthday - I'm allowed. ;-) Somehow, I read the time on your msg.
and translated it wrongly. No idea how except the phone was ringing, people
were at the door and the dogs were barking like demons. Otherwise,
situation normal! We've just been up to a place on Dartmoor for lunch where
it was 0C and snowing quite well. The moor and some of the stone walls were
just turning white as we drove home - where it was raining! It's
brightening up in the west now, though.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Sacha 12-01-2008 11:12 AM

OT ISP query
 
On 11/1/08 14:05, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

snip
I get around 100 a day. Orange.nl provides a service to identify and isolate
junk mail and viruses. None of it gets as far as my PC.

snip

I cleared out all my mail boxes yesterday. This morning I had 576 'caught'
pieces of junk mail in my Orange junk mail folder. They hadn't reached my
Mail program but of course, they're still taking up space.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'




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