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Eddy 22-01-2008 12:29 PM

raspberry stalks - how to bush?
 
Hi,

This new house we're in has some raspberries that last summer were
seeming to grow rather well on the edge of our septic tank soakaway
area. The fruit were big and delicious. However, each plant consisted
of just one stalk, about 1.5m high, and, of course, dangling about and
falling all over the place, particularly in the winds.

Is there a way to force raspherries to bush and, if so, when and how
should I do this?

Thanks.

Eddy.


Mary Fisher 22-01-2008 12:45 PM

raspberry stalks - how to bush?
 

"Eddy" wrote in message
...
Hi,

This new house we're in has some raspberries that last summer were
seeming to grow rather well on the edge of our septic tank soakaway
area. The fruit were big and delicious. However, each plant consisted
of just one stalk, about 1.5m high, and, of course, dangling about and
falling all over the place, particularly in the winds.

Is there a way to force raspherries to bush and, if so, when and how
should I do this?

Thanks.

Eddy.


It's how they grow, on one cane each. They need to be tied, we have a stake
at each end of the line with several wires between them. The new canes are
tied to the wires when the old ones are cut down in autumn.

Don't let them get too tall either, ours are not more than 4'6" but other
growers might have other sizes. in our case it's because we're small and
couldn't reach much higher :-)

Mary




Eddy 22-01-2008 05:14 PM

raspberry stalks - how to bush?
 
Mary Fisher wrote:
It's how they grow, on one cane each.


Ah! Right! (My face has gone a little red with embarrassment!) I
shall get some stakes ready.

Thanks, Mary.

Eddy.


Robert \(Plymouth\)[_106_] 22-01-2008 05:17 PM

raspberry stalks - how to bush?
 

"Eddy" wrote in message
...
Mary Fisher wrote:
It's how they grow, on one cane each.


Ah! Right! (My face has gone a little red with embarrassment!) I
shall get some stakes ready.

Thanks, Mary.

Eddy.


You'll find that to compensate for not being a bush, they'll send out lots
of new stems and gradually march along your plot



Stewart Robert Hinsley 22-01-2008 07:34 PM

raspberry stalks - how to bush?
 
In message , "Robert
(Plymouth)" writes

"Eddy" wrote in message
...
Mary Fisher wrote:
It's how they grow, on one cane each.


Ah! Right! (My face has gone a little red with embarrassment!) I
shall get some stakes ready.

Thanks, Mary.

Eddy.


You'll find that to compensate for not being a bush, they'll send out lots
of new stems and gradually march along your plot


s/gradually/rapidly/
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

Paul Luton[_2_] 22-01-2008 09:07 PM

raspberry stalks - how to bush?
 
Eddy wrote:
Mary Fisher wrote:
It's how they grow, on one cane each.


Ah! Right! (My face has gone a little red with embarrassment!) I
shall get some stakes ready.

Unless they fruited in September (Autumn Fruiting) when no staking is
really needed. Just cut down all the old canes now and a new lot will
soon appear.

Paul


--
CTC Right to Ride Rep. for Richmond upon Thames

The Old OakTree 23-01-2008 09:46 AM

raspberry stalks - how to bush?
 
You'll find that to compensate for not being a bush, they'll
send out lots
of new stems and gradually march along your plot

Stewart Robert Hinsley


Any suggestions how to get them to march 'along' (in line with
the stakes and wires) rather than 'across' (filling in the
spaces between rows)?




Robert \(Plymouth\)[_107_] 23-01-2008 07:18 PM

raspberry stalks - how to bush?
 

"The Old OakTree" wrote in message
...
You'll find that to compensate for not being a bush, they'll send out
lots
of new stems and gradually march along your plot

Stewart Robert Hinsley


Any suggestions how to get them to march 'along' (in line with the stakes
and wires) rather than 'across' (filling in the spaces between rows)?


The only way is to dig the rogue ones up as far as I know



Mary Fisher 23-01-2008 07:44 PM

raspberry stalks - how to bush?
 

"Robert (Plymouth)" remove my other
hobby to reply wrote in message
...

"The Old OakTree" wrote in message
...
You'll find that to compensate for not being a bush, they'll send out
lots
of new stems and gradually march along your plot
Stewart Robert Hinsley


Any suggestions how to get them to march 'along' (in line with the stakes
and wires) rather than 'across' (filling in the spaces between rows)?


The only way is to dig the rogue ones up as far as I know


Same here.

But it's not guaranteed that you'll get every little bit.

One of my rows marched right along the garden until I realised what was
happening. The other came from next door - and it's now been tamed (sort of)
to be at 90 degrees from the original.

Whatever that was :-)

Mary





cliff_the_gardener 23-01-2008 11:14 PM

raspberry stalks - how to bush?
 
To get the raspberries to march down the row, one trick is to line the
sides with visqueen - heavy duty plastic - just the sides not the
base. It only needs to go down 12 - 18 inches as the rasps are not
need rooted.
Regards
Clifford
Bawtry Doncaster South Yorkshire

Jim Jackson 02-02-2008 05:31 PM

raspberry stalks - how to bush?
 
Paul Luton wrote:
Eddy wrote:
Mary Fisher wrote:
It's how they grow, on one cane each.


Ah! Right! (My face has gone a little red with embarrassment!) I
shall get some stakes ready.

Unless they fruited in September (Autumn Fruiting) when no staking is
really needed. Just cut down all the old canes now and a new lot will
soon appear.


I've grown autumn fruiting rasps for over 15 years, and upto last year I'd
have agreed with you. However last year my autumns grew very tall (maybe
the excellent april/may) and during the june/july heavy rain fell about
all over the place - some support was needed.



Mary Fisher 03-02-2008 11:50 AM

raspberry stalks - how to bush?
 

"Jim Jackson" wrote in message
...
Paul Luton wrote:
Eddy wrote:
Mary Fisher wrote:
It's how they grow, on one cane each.

Ah! Right! (My face has gone a little red with embarrassment!) I
shall get some stakes ready.

Unless they fruited in September (Autumn Fruiting) when no staking is
really needed. Just cut down all the old canes now and a new lot will
soon appear.


I've grown autumn fruiting rasps for over 15 years, and upto last year I'd
have agreed with you. However last year my autumns grew very tall (maybe
the excellent april/may) and during the june/july heavy rain fell about
all over the place - some support was needed.


I planted one last spring and it hardly grew at all - certainly didn't
fruit.

If it doesn't do better this year I'll be complaining :-(

Mary





Amethyst Deceiver 04-02-2008 02:40 PM

raspberry stalks - how to bush?
 
In article ,
says...

"Jim Jackson" wrote in message
...
Paul Luton wrote:
Eddy wrote:
Mary Fisher wrote:
It's how they grow, on one cane each.

Ah! Right! (My face has gone a little red with embarrassment!) I
shall get some stakes ready.

Unless they fruited in September (Autumn Fruiting) when no staking is
really needed. Just cut down all the old canes now and a new lot will
soon appear.


I've grown autumn fruiting rasps for over 15 years, and upto last year I'd
have agreed with you. However last year my autumns grew very tall (maybe
the excellent april/may) and during the june/july heavy rain fell about
all over the place - some support was needed.


I planted one last spring and it hardly grew at all - certainly didn't
fruit.

If it doesn't do better this year I'll be complaining :-(


Mine took two seasons. I planted a load in spring 2006, and got two
crops in 2007. I'm planting 18 more canes this year and don't expect any
fruit from them till next year.
--
Linz
Wet Yorks

Mary Fisher 04-02-2008 03:27 PM

raspberry stalks - how to bush?
 

"Amethyst Deceiver" wrote in message
...

....


... autumn fruiting rasps ...


I planted one last spring and it hardly grew at all - certainly didn't
fruit.

If it doesn't do better this year I'll be complaining :-(


Mine took two seasons. I planted a load in spring 2006, and got two
crops in 2007. I'm planting 18 more canes this year and don't expect any
fruit from them till next year.


So they did well at Tod, that's encouraging.

Mary



Amethyst Deceiver 05-02-2008 11:32 AM

raspberry stalks - how to bush?
 
In article ,
says...

"Amethyst Deceiver" wrote in message
...

...


... autumn fruiting rasps ...

I planted one last spring and it hardly grew at all - certainly didn't
fruit.

If it doesn't do better this year I'll be complaining :-(


Mine took two seasons. I planted a load in spring 2006, and got two
crops in 2007. I'm planting 18 more canes this year and don't expect any
fruit from them till next year.


So they did well at Tod, that's encouraging.


They did remarkably well. Unlike the gooseberry bush (dead) and the
currants (feeble).
--
Linz
Wet Yorks


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