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Iris don't flower
Hi there,
I have a clump of Iris, maybe a foot wide. The first year it flowered very nicely but since then all I get is lots of healthy looking foliage and a bigger clump. thoughts? cheers Lord0 |
Iris don't flower
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, says... Hi there, I have a clump of Iris, maybe a foot wide. The first year it flowered very nicely but since then all I get is lots of healthy looking foliage and a bigger clump. thoughts? cheers Lord0 You need to indicate what sort of Iris its supposed to be, they vary so widely in requirements, if you are not sure of the name describe the plant -- Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall www.roselandhouse.co.uk Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and Lapageria rosea |
Iris don't flower
You need to indicate what sort of Iris its supposed to be, they vary so
widely in requirements, if you are not sure of the name describe the plant I *think* it's a Bearded Iris - it certainly looked like one the last time it flowered. The flower was purple with a yellow and black speckled centre. I was reading on the web that maybe it's planted too deep. This could be the case as the border gets a lot of mulch and compost so the Iris is in effect getting deeper and deeper each year. Sound plausible? Lord0 |
Iris don't flower
But it does sound as if
yours are planted too deeply. Yeah, by now now they must be at least 6 inches or so down. Well I'm off to dig 'em up! Thanks for your time Lord0 |
Iris don't flower
"Lord0" wrote ... But it does sound as if yours are planted too deeply. Yeah, by now now they must be at least 6 inches or so down. Well I'm off to dig 'em up! Thanks for your time One of my favourite plants. I doubt they will flower this year either, the roots need a good summer baking in the sun to flower well the next year, it's just about the only requirement for these easy to grow plants. Replant them with the root part facing the sun and make sure nothing shades them, pray for sun too. They are normally split and replanted a few weeks after finishing flowering, about every three years, so that is the time to improve the soil with a little manure etc. It's not easy in the garden environment to ensure full sun if it's crammed with plants like ours. That's why we grow our Bearded Iris out on the allotment now. -- Regards Bob Hobden 17mls W. of London.UK |
Iris don't flower
"Lord0" wrote in message
I *think* it's a Bearded Iris - it certainly looked like one the last time it flowered. The flower was purple with a yellow and black speckled centre. Tall Bearded Iris only flower once and after they flower they will then put their energy into producing new rhizomes so if it is an old congested clump, you will need to divide and replant the newer, younger rhizomes. I was reading on the web that maybe it's planted too deep. This could be the case as the border gets a lot of mulch and compost so the Iris is in effect getting deeper and deeper each year. Sound plausible? Yep.They prefer medium to heavy loam and slightly alkaline soil. They are supposedly gross feeders but I don't bother to feed mine much (or in fact water them much either) and they still flower so they are very forgiving plants. I use them as 'pioneer plants' in areas on the outlying parts of my garden. I'm in Australia and have soil that in some places is still totally unimproved from when the land was first cleared of bush. My soil is relatively infertile in comparison to yours I suspect. I don't mulch my irises so if mine survive in weeks of high 30+C temps, no rain and most often no water as I use that on things that need it to survive, you won't need mulch in the UK. In fact mulch could introduce too much moisture round the rhizome which could rot them. |
Iris don't flower
Bob Hobden writes
"Lord0" wrote ... But it does sound as if yours are planted too deeply. Yeah, by now now they must be at least 6 inches or so down. Well I'm off to dig 'em up! Thanks for your time One of my favourite plants. I doubt they will flower this year either, the roots need a good summer baking in the sun to flower well the next year, it's just about the only requirement for these easy to grow plants. Replant them with the root part facing the sun and make sure nothing shades them, pray for sun too. They are normally split and replanted a few weeks after finishing flowering, about every three years, so that is the time to improve the soil with a little manure etc. It's not easy in the garden environment to ensure full sun if it's crammed with plants like ours. That's why we grow our Bearded Iris out on the allotment now. Are the OP's bearded iris? The OP described them as purple with (IIRC) yellow and black spots at the centre. Could they be sibirica? And if so, are the requirements the same? -- Kay |
Iris don't flower
On Mar 20, 5:42 pm, K wrote:
Bob Hobden writes "Lord0" wrote ... But it does sound as if yours are planted too deeply. Yeah, by now now they must be at least 6 inches or so down. Well I'm off to dig 'em up! Thanks for your time One of my favourite plants. I doubt they will flower this year either, the roots need a good summer baking in the sun to flower well the next year, it's just about the only requirement for these easy to grow plants. Replant them with the root part facing the sun and make sure nothing shades them, pray for sun too. They are normally split and replanted a few weeks after finishing flowering, about every three years, so that is the time to improve the soil with a little manure etc. It's not easy in the garden environment to ensure full sun if it's crammed with plants like ours. That's why we grow our Bearded Iris out on the allotment now. Are the OP's bearded iris? The OP described them as purple with (IIRC) yellow and black spots at the centre. Could they be sibirica? And if so, are the requirements the same? -- Kay Hi Kay, do you remember years ago I had the same problem? It was because I had planted them too deeply. I think it was you who told me where I had gone wrong. Judith |
Iris don't flower
Judith in France writes
Hi Kay, do you remember years ago I had the same problem? It was because I had planted them too deeply. I think it was you who told me where I had gone wrong. Not me! No good at irises :-) -- Kay |
Iris don't flower
On 20/3/08 17:42, in article , "K"
wrote: Bob Hobden writes "Lord0" wrote ... But it does sound as if yours are planted too deeply. Yeah, by now now they must be at least 6 inches or so down. Well I'm off to dig 'em up! Thanks for your time One of my favourite plants. I doubt they will flower this year either, the roots need a good summer baking in the sun to flower well the next year, it's just about the only requirement for these easy to grow plants. Replant them with the root part facing the sun and make sure nothing shades them, pray for sun too. They are normally split and replanted a few weeks after finishing flowering, about every three years, so that is the time to improve the soil with a little manure etc. It's not easy in the garden environment to ensure full sun if it's crammed with plants like ours. That's why we grow our Bearded Iris out on the allotment now. Are the OP's bearded iris? The OP described them as purple with (IIRC) yellow and black spots at the centre. Could they be sibirica? And if so, are the requirements the same? He said he thinks it's a bearded Iris. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
Iris don't flower
"Lord0" wrote in message ... Hi there, I have a clump of Iris, maybe a foot wide. The first year it flowered very nicely but since then all I get is lots of healthy looking foliage and a bigger clump. thoughts? -don't plant to deep - the rhizomes need to be baked in the sun -plant in the sun :~) -they do better on poor soil IMO Jenny |
Iris don't flower
Sacha writes
Are the OP's bearded iris? The OP described them as purple with (IIRC) yellow and black spots at the centre. Could they be sibirica? And if so, are the requirements the same? He said he thinks it's a bearded Iris. He did indeed. But then he gave that description. -- Kay |
Iris don't flower
On 20/3/08 22:35, in article , "K"
wrote: Sacha writes Are the OP's bearded iris? The OP described them as purple with (IIRC) yellow and black spots at the centre. Could they be sibirica? And if so, are the requirements the same? He said he thinks it's a bearded Iris. He did indeed. But then he gave that description. I think it would help him to look at some Google Images of different Iris. There are, after all, some that grow in water! Iris sibirica like dry conditions. Iris confusa likes to be fairly moist. I suppose it could be that in which case, lucky him! -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
Iris don't flower
"Sacha" wrote I think it would help him to look at some Google Images of different Iris. There are, after all, some that grow in water! Iris sibirica like dry conditions. I had better not tell that to those I've had in my pond for 25 years. :-) Iris confusa likes to be fairly moist. I suppose it could be that in which case, lucky him! Or the beautiful Iris laevigata which can also be a bog plant. Some links for the OP to look at http://www.ensata.com/HTML/PlantPages/species_&_bog.htm http://www.lilieswatergardens.co.uk/index.asp (and do a Search for Iris) -- Regards Bob Hobden 17mls W. of London.UK |
Iris don't flower
On 20/3/08 23:38, in article , "Bob
Hobden" wrote: "Sacha" wrote I think it would help him to look at some Google Images of different Iris. There are, after all, some that grow in water! Iris sibirica like dry conditions. I had better not tell that to those I've had in my pond for 25 years. :-) Have I muddled them up? I thought they liked dry but now I'm going to have to check. We have some on the corner of a well-drained wall! Iris confusa likes to be fairly moist. I suppose it could be that in which case, lucky him! Or the beautiful Iris laevigata which can also be a bog plant. Some links for the OP to look at http://www.ensata.com/HTML/PlantPages/species_&_bog.htm http://www.lilieswatergardens.co.uk/index.asp (and do a Search for Iris) I do love bearded Iris and my only complaint about them is that when they're over, they' *so* over which, as they like to be baked makes them hard to disguise with other plants around them. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
Iris don't flower
On 21/3/08 09:32, in article ,
"Sacha" wrote: On 20/3/08 23:38, in article , "Bob Hobden" wrote: "Sacha" wrote I think it would help him to look at some Google Images of different Iris. There are, after all, some that grow in water! Iris sibirica like dry conditions. I had better not tell that to those I've had in my pond for 25 years. :-) Have I muddled them up? I thought they liked dry but now I'm going to have to check. We have some on the corner of a well-drained wall! I asked Ray who sat firmly on the fence and said "Moist". ;-) Iris confusa likes to be fairly moist. I suppose it could be that in which case, lucky him! Or the beautiful Iris laevigata which can also be a bog plant. snip I think that might be the one we have in the pond. It's in a pot on a ledge and is a fabulous purple. Does that sound familiar, Bob? -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
Iris don't flower
"Sacha" wrote after "Bob Hobden" wrote: "Sacha" wrote I think it would help him to look at some Google Images of different Iris. There are, after all, some that grow in water! Iris sibirica like dry conditions. I had better not tell that to those I've had in my pond for 25 years. :-) Have I muddled them up? I thought they liked dry but now I'm going to have to check. We have some on the corner of a well-drained wall! I asked Ray who sat firmly on the fence and said "Moist". ;-) Iris confusa likes to be fairly moist. I suppose it could be that in which case, lucky him! Or the beautiful Iris laevigata which can also be a bog plant. snip I think that might be the one we have in the pond. It's in a pot on a ledge and is a fabulous purple. Does that sound familiar, Bob? Very much so, we have one that has variegated leaves and is a deep purple in flower, there are lots of varieties with different flower colours though. They make superb, classy, bog plants and I would always have them over the normal yellow flags which can be large and rather invasive in a garden pond. The pond plant place I mentioned before has numerous bog iris. One nursery I forgot to put on my last reply was THE famous Bearded Iris nursery... http://www.iris-cayeux.com/index.php?langue=EN -- Regards Bob Hobden 17mls W. of London.UK |
Iris don't flower
"Sacha" wrote (big snip) I do love bearded Iris and my only complaint about them is that when they're over, they' *so* over which, as they like to be baked makes them hard to disguise with other plants around them. Another reason why mine are now almost all on our allotment where they can have the totally open aspect not surrounded or overshadowed by other plants. We still have a deep yellow that seems to not mind shade so much so does OK in our crowded garden. I must admit, looking at the Cayeau Nursery site just now was a bad move. :-) -- Regards Bob Hobden |
Iris don't flower
On 21/3/08 16:14, in article , "Bob
Hobden" wrote: "Sacha" wrote after "Bob Hobden" wrote: "Sacha" wrote I think it would help him to look at some Google Images of different Iris. There are, after all, some that grow in water! Iris sibirica like dry conditions. I had better not tell that to those I've had in my pond for 25 years. :-) Have I muddled them up? I thought they liked dry but now I'm going to have to check. We have some on the corner of a well-drained wall! I asked Ray who sat firmly on the fence and said "Moist". ;-) Iris confusa likes to be fairly moist. I suppose it could be that in which case, lucky him! Or the beautiful Iris laevigata which can also be a bog plant. snip I think that might be the one we have in the pond. It's in a pot on a ledge and is a fabulous purple. Does that sound familiar, Bob? Very much so, we have one that has variegated leaves and is a deep purple in flower, there are lots of varieties with different flower colours though. They make superb, classy, bog plants and I would always have them over the normal yellow flags which can be large and rather invasive in a garden pond. The pond plant place I mentioned before has numerous bog iris. Yes, thank you. I've bookmarked that one and I'm going to get some for our ponds here. One nursery I forgot to put on my last reply was THE famous Bearded Iris nursery... http://www.iris-cayeux.com/index.php?langue=EN Oh their selection is *gorgeous*. I hardly dare look at it! -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
Iris don't flower
On 21/3/08 16:22, in article , "Bob
Hobden" wrote: "Sacha" wrote (big snip) I do love bearded Iris and my only complaint about them is that when they're over, they' *so* over which, as they like to be baked makes them hard to disguise with other plants around them. Another reason why mine are now almost all on our allotment where they can have the totally open aspect not surrounded or overshadowed by other plants. We still have a deep yellow that seems to not mind shade so much so does OK in our crowded garden. I must admit, looking at the Cayeau Nursery site just now was a bad move. :-) See what I mean? I think it's called going broke in style! -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
Iris don't flower
On 21/3/08 17:44, in article ,
"Jennifer Sparkes" wrote: The message from Sacha contains these words: I must admit, looking at the Cayeau Nursery site just now was a bad move. :-) See what I mean? I think it's called going broke in style! Well would be for me. Iris 'paradise' plus a wander round the area to buy Pouilly Fumé ... Jennifer - in a dream world Shall we book? ;-) -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
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