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Garden Labeling advice please
I'd like some advice please.
I have a large garden, orchards, greenhouses and tunnels. Vegetables, soft and top fruit, vegetables both under cover and outside. Labelling takes a lot of effort, creates many blunt pencils and a bad temper. I have found a pencil that stays readable for longer "Rainbow"- but even so, I like to label the many fruit varieties accurately and get it to stay readable. I have been looking at these machines that are about, they seem to make a flexible label suitable for trees and soft fruit, but I wonder if there is a dual purpose one that can also produce stiff plastic. Anyway, can anyone advise me about makes, their stengths and weaknesses and the all important labels themselves. I don't mind getting a special printer for the garden, as my wife is happy to explain in detail I can spend like a drunken sailor on it, but I do have 'puter and a good HP office printer. Would I be duplicating something I can do already? Is it just a question of buying the right ink and sheets of labels? I would like, if possible, to print on both sides of the label. Nowadays, I get some help and it is useful if I can f.e. print "Prune March, pick October." TIA -- Regards Pat Gardiner Test British pigs for MRSA now! www.go-self-sufficient.com |
Garden Labeling advice please
"Pat Gardiner" wrote in message ... I'd like some advice please. I have a large garden, orchards, greenhouses and tunnels. Vegetables, soft and top fruit, vegetables both under cover and outside. Labelling takes a lot of effort, creates many blunt pencils and a bad temper. I have found a pencil that stays readable for longer "Rainbow"- but even so, I like to label the many fruit varieties accurately and get it to stay readable. I have been looking at these machines that are about, they seem to make a flexible label suitable for trees and soft fruit, but I wonder if there is a dual purpose one that can also produce stiff plastic. Anyway, can anyone advise me about makes, their stengths and weaknesses and the all important labels themselves. I don't mind getting a special printer for the garden, as my wife is happy to explain in detail I can spend like a drunken sailor on it, but I do have 'puter and a good HP office printer. Would I be duplicating something I can do already? Is it just a question of buying the right ink and sheets of labels? I would like, if possible, to print on both sides of the label. Nowadays, I get some help and it is useful if I can f.e. print "Prune March, pick October." TIA -- Regards Pat Gardiner Test British pigs for MRSA now! www.go-self-sufficient.com Avery Labels 7160 stuck back to back and laminated. Plant on the front. Info on the back. Design Pro 5 is the programme. I believe it can be downloaded now. Simple programme I print 1000's of labels a year Hope that helps Mike -- www.rneba.org.uk. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association. 'THE' Association to find your ex-Greenie mess mates. |
Garden Labeling advice please
On 9 Apr, 18:16, "'Mike'" wrote:
"Pat Gardiner" wrote in message ... I'd like some advice please. I have a large garden, orchards, greenhouses and tunnels. Vegetables, soft and top fruit, vegetables both under cover and outside. Labelling takes a lot of effort, creates many blunt pencils and a bad temper. I have found a pencil that stays readable for longer "Rainbow"- but even so, I like to label the many fruit varieties accurately and get it to stay readable. I have been looking at these machines that are about, they seem to make a flexible label suitable for trees and soft fruit, but I wonder if there is a dual purpose one that can also produce stiff plastic. Anyway, can anyone advise me about makes, their stengths and weaknesses and the all important labels themselves. I don't mind getting a special printer for the garden, as my wife is happy to explain in detail I can spend like a drunken sailor on it, but I do have 'puter and a good HP office printer. Would I be duplicating something I can do already? Is it just a question of buying the right ink and sheets of labels? I would like, if possible, to print on both sides of the label. Nowadays, I get some help and it is useful if I can f.e. print "Prune March, pick October." TIA -- Regards Pat Gardiner Test British pigs for MRSA now! www.go-self-sufficient.com Avery Labels 7160 stuck back to back and laminated. Plant on the front. Info on the back. Design Pro 5 is the programme. I believe it can be downloaded now. Simple programme I print 1000's of labels a year Hope that helps Mike --www.rneba.org.uk. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association. 'THE' Association to find your ex-Greenie mess mates.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I find that an ordinary HB pencil seems to last the longest and doesn't fade, will write on most plastic labels David Hill |
Garden Labeling advice please
Dave Hill wrote:
On 9 Apr, 18:16, "'Mike'" wrote: "Pat Gardiner" wrote in message ... I'd like some advice please. I have a large garden, orchards, greenhouses and tunnels. Vegetables, soft and top fruit, vegetables both under cover and outside. Labelling takes a lot of effort, creates many blunt pencils and a bad temper. I have found a pencil that stays readable for longer "Rainbow"- but even so, I like to label the many fruit varieties accurately and get it to stay readable. I have been looking at these machines that are about, they seem to make a flexible label suitable for trees and soft fruit, but I wonder if there is a dual purpose one that can also produce stiff plastic. Anyway, can anyone advise me about makes, their stengths and weaknesses and the all important labels themselves. I don't mind getting a special printer for the garden, as my wife is happy to explain in detail I can spend like a drunken sailor on it, but I do have 'puter and a good HP office printer. Would I be duplicating something I can do already? Is it just a question of buying the right ink and sheets of labels? I would like, if possible, to print on both sides of the label. Nowadays, I get some help and it is useful if I can f.e. print "Prune March, pick October." TIA -- Regards Pat Gardiner Test British pigs for MRSA now! www.go-self-sufficient.com I find that an ordinary HB pencil seems to last the longest and doesn't fade, will write on most plastic labels David Hill Yes, pencils are best (nothing like using low-tech, is there?!). Scratch labels aren't bad. See he http://www.twowests.co.uk/TwoWestsSite/product/BPSI.htm. Don't know if they are still made, though. -- Jeff (cut "thetape" to reply) |
Garden Labeling advice please
On 9/4/08 18:04, in article , "Pat
Gardiner" wrote: I'd like some advice please. I have a large garden, orchards, greenhouses and tunnels. Vegetables, soft and top fruit, vegetables both under cover and outside. Labelling takes a lot of effort, creates many blunt pencils and a bad temper. I have found a pencil that stays readable for longer "Rainbow"- but even so, I like to label the many fruit varieties accurately and get it to stay readable. I have been looking at these machines that are about, they seem to make a flexible label suitable for trees and soft fruit, but I wonder if there is a dual purpose one that can also produce stiff plastic. Anyway, can anyone advise me about makes, their stengths and weaknesses and the all important labels themselves. I don't mind getting a special printer for the garden, as my wife is happy to explain in detail I can spend like a drunken sailor on it, but I do have 'puter and a good HP office printer. Would I be duplicating something I can do already? Is it just a question of buying the right ink and sheets of labels? I would like, if possible, to print on both sides of the label. Nowadays, I get some help and it is useful if I can f.e. print "Prune March, pick October." TIA The problem with all printed labels is the fading over time. In a private garden and with enough time to do it, I'd go for lead labels and 'scratch' what you want onto those. Many places sell them and they're both attractive and practical for the private gardener, IMO. Otherwise, my personal experience is that Dymo labels last as well, if not better, than most things. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
Garden Labeling advice please
"Sacha" wrote The problem with all printed labels is the fading over time. In a private garden and with enough time to do it, I'd go for lead labels and 'scratch' what you want onto those. Many places sell them and they're both attractive and practical for the private gardener, IMO. Otherwise, my personal experience is that Dymo labels last as well, if not better, than most things. We used Dymo out on the allotment for years on white painted sticks and now use the Brother Labeller machine most GCs sell and find that they work even better, not least because you can get black letters on white background. We stick the labels onto large white plastic labels. -- Regards Bob Hobden |
Garden Labeling advice please
"Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... "Sacha" wrote The problem with all printed labels is the fading over time. In a private garden and with enough time to do it, I'd go for lead labels and 'scratch' what you want onto those. Many places sell them and they're both attractive and practical for the private gardener, IMO. Otherwise, my personal experience is that Dymo labels last as well, if not better, than most things. We used Dymo out on the allotment for years on white painted sticks and now use the Brother Labeller machine most GCs sell and find that they work even better, not least because you can get black letters on white background. We stick the labels onto large white plastic labels. Many thanks all for advice. I'm probably more fanatical than most about labelling ( Certainly more fanatical than some nurseries! ) I remember the old grey metal scratch labels but haven't seen them for years. Interestingly today, I was very amused to find that one of our most prominent seed suppliers has been naughty. I kept my emply packet of a variety of squash from a previous years, as a reminder to buy some more. Unable to get the original variety, I bought the nearest to it with a different name and description, but the same supplier with colourful packet Examination later revealed that the photo was the same, colour changed slightly and very thoughtfully reversed, with printing obscuring the most obvious points of similarity. My wife's family were all in the seed trade, so I can have an interesting day or two muttering about marrying into a bunch of rogues. -- Regards Pat Gardiner Test British pigs for MRSA now! www.go-self-sufficient.com -- Regards Bob Hobden |
Garden Labeling advice please
On 10/4/08 17:39, in article , "Pat
Gardiner" wrote: "Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... "Sacha" wrote The problem with all printed labels is the fading over time. In a private garden and with enough time to do it, I'd go for lead labels and 'scratch' what you want onto those. Many places sell them and they're both attractive and practical for the private gardener, IMO. Otherwise, my personal experience is that Dymo labels last as well, if not better, than most things. We used Dymo out on the allotment for years on white painted sticks and now use the Brother Labeller machine most GCs sell and find that they work even better, not least because you can get black letters on white background. We stick the labels onto large white plastic labels. Many thanks all for advice. I'm probably more fanatical than most about labelling ( Certainly more fanatical than some nurseries! ) I remember the old grey metal scratch labels but haven't seen them for years. I'm thinking of the quite prettily shaped lead ones - faux lead?. I think the RHS or NT does them, or something similar. And these are attractive http://www.eclection.net/product_inf...roducts_id=156 Interestingly today, I was very amused to find that one of our most prominent seed suppliers has been naughty. I kept my emply packet of a variety of squash from a previous years, as a reminder to buy some more. Unable to get the original variety, I bought the nearest to it with a different name and description, but the same supplier with colourful packet Examination later revealed that the photo was the same, colour changed slightly and very thoughtfully reversed, with printing obscuring the most obvious points of similarity. My wife's family were all in the seed trade, so I can have an interesting day or two muttering about marrying into a bunch of rogues. ;-)) Labelling is the bane of our lives - sometimes. You can label as carefully as you like but customers take stick in labels out of pots, read them and drop them on the ground or, worse still, put them into the wrong pots. One day I watched a child, observed by its uncaring mother, wandering up a bank of plants here, taking labels out of every pot and alternating them with the next door pat of a totally different species or variety every time. We must sweep up hundreds of labels every year. Tie-ons don't suffer the same fate but you can't use those on emerging perennials. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
Garden Labeling advice please
"Sacha" wrote in message ... On 10/4/08 17:39, in article , "Pat Gardiner" wrote: "Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... "Sacha" wrote The problem with all printed labels is the fading over time. In a private garden and with enough time to do it, I'd go for lead labels and 'scratch' what you want onto those. Many places sell them and they're both attractive and practical for the private gardener, IMO. Otherwise, my personal experience is that Dymo labels last as well, if not better, than most things. We used Dymo out on the allotment for years on white painted sticks and now use the Brother Labeller machine most GCs sell and find that they work even better, not least because you can get black letters on white background. We stick the labels onto large white plastic labels. Many thanks all for advice. I'm probably more fanatical than most about labelling ( Certainly more fanatical than some nurseries! ) I remember the old grey metal scratch labels but haven't seen them for years. I'm thinking of the quite prettily shaped lead ones - faux lead?. I think the RHS or NT does them, or something similar. And these are attractive http://www.eclection.net/product_inf...roducts_id=156 I came across this idea used re-cycled drinks cans, which I thought I'd give a go: http://www.runnerduck.com/plant_tags.htm Mark |
Garden Labeling advice please
I came across this idea used re-cycled drinks cans, which I thought I'd give a go: http://www.runnerduck.com/plant_tags.htm Mark And then give a coat of varnish to waterproof? Lovely idea for rainy days :-) Mike -- www.rneba.org.uk. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association. 'THE' Association to find your ex-Greenie mess mates. |
Garden Labeling advice please
On 11 Apr, 09:02, "'Mike'" wrote:
I came across this idea used re-cycled drinks cans, which I thought I'd give a go: http://www.runnerduck.com/plant_tags.htm Mark And then give a coat of varnish to waterproof? Lovely idea for rainy days :-) Mike --www.rneba.org.uk. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association. 'THE' Association to find your ex-Greenie mess mates. If you are using wire on trees then wind some of it around a cane or biro to give you what looks like a spring , with this in the loop around the tree then as the tree grows the wire loop can evpand with the trunk and not get grown over. David Hill Abacus Nurseries |
Garden Labeling advice please
"Dave Hill" wrote in message ... On 11 Apr, 09:02, "'Mike'" wrote: I came across this idea used re-cycled drinks cans, which I thought I'd give a go: http://www.runnerduck.com/plant_tags.htm Mark And then give a coat of varnish to waterproof? Lovely idea for rainy days :-) Mike --www.rneba.org.uk. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association. 'THE' Association to find your ex-Greenie mess mates. If you are using wire on trees then wind some of it around a cane or biro to give you what looks like a spring , with this in the loop around the tree then as the tree grows the wire loop can evpand with the trunk and not get grown over. David Hill Abacus Nurseries I have some wonderful pictures I took of a tree which had a wire hawser put round it to support a fence. Completely grown over :-( Which site can I post them on? Mike -- www.rneba.org.uk. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association. 'THE' Association to find your ex-Greenie mess mates. |
Garden Labeling advice please
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, says... On 11 Apr, 09:02, "'Mike'" wrote: I came across this idea used re-cycled drinks cans, which I thought I'd give a go: http://www.runnerduck.com/plant_tags.htm Mark And then give a coat of varnish to waterproof? Lovely idea for rainy days :-) Mike --www.rneba.org.uk. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association. 'THE' Association to find your ex-Greenie mess mates. If you are using wire on trees then wind some of it around a cane or biro to give you what looks like a spring , with this in the loop around the tree then as the tree grows the wire loop can evpand with the trunk and not get grown over. David Hill Abacus Nurseries Thats a realy useful tip, you always mean to remember but always seem to forget!! -- Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall www.roselandhouse.co.uk Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and Lapageria rosea |
Garden Labeling advice please
"'Mike'" wrote in message ... I have some wonderful pictures I took of a tree which had a wire hawser put round it to support a fence. Completely grown over :-( Which site can I post them on? I use Twango, it works for me. If you don't want to start your own album send the pics to me and I will put them up on mine for a while for folk to take a look. Mike (another one) |
Garden Labeling advice please
"Martin" wrote in message ... On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 23:17:42 +0100, "Muddymike" wrote: "'Mike'" wrote in message ... I have some wonderful pictures I took of a tree which had a wire hawser put round it to support a fence. Completely grown over :-( Which site can I post them on? I use Twango, it works for me. If you don't want to start your own album send the pics to me and I will put them up on mine for a while for folk to take a look. www.myalbum.com is easy to use and maintains the detail that was in the originals. -- Martin Thank Mike I have forwarded pictures to you, but thanks Martin, I have downloaded to myalbum and put hem on the public gallery. Easy isn't it? Best wishes Mike -- www.rneba.org.uk. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association. 'THE' Association to find your ex-Greenie mess mates. |
Garden Labeling advice please
"'Mike'" wrote in message ... "Martin" wrote in message ... On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 23:17:42 +0100, "Muddymike" wrote: "'Mike'" wrote in message ... I have some wonderful pictures I took of a tree which had a wire hawser put round it to support a fence. Completely grown over :-( Which site can I post them on? I use Twango, it works for me. If you don't want to start your own album send the pics to me and I will put them up on mine for a while for folk to take a look. www.myalbum.com is easy to use and maintains the detail that was in the originals. -- Martin Thank Mike I have forwarded pictures to you, but thanks Martin, I have downloaded to myalbum and put hem on the public gallery. Easy isn't it? Try this link http://www.myalbum.com/Album-P8UNJE4H Mike -- www.rneba.org.uk. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association. 'THE' Association to find your ex-Greenie mess mates. |
[ I'd go for lead labels and 'scratch'
what you want onto those. Many places sell them and they're both attractive ] I would love to get hold of some lead labels, or lead sheets, preferably to buy online. I've tried googling but not had any luck. If you could give me some places, that would be great. |
Garden Labeling advice please
On 13/4/08 08:20, in article , "jay jay"
wrote: [ I'd go for lead labels and 'scratch' what you want onto those. Many places sell them and they're both attractive ] I would love to get hold of some lead labels, or lead sheets, preferably to buy online. I've tried googling but not had any luck. If you could give me some places, that would be great. Typing in lead plant labels produced http://www.thecedartree.co.uk/orname...d_planters.htm If you try to buy lead sheet you could probably get it from a builder's merchant or an old-fashioned ironmonger. I got some from the latter but it's probably too thick and heavy to be used for plant labels. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
Garden Labeling advice please
'Mike' wrote:
I came across this idea used re-cycled drinks cans, which I thought I'd give a go: http://www.runnerduck.com/plant_tags.htm Mark And then give a coat of varnish to waterproof? Lovely idea for rainy days :-) Mike I don't think waterproofing is necessary - you use the pen to 'emboss' the metal, rather than to write on it with ink. Not sure what to make of the label on the reverse side though - it seems it's just to use as a template to cut around, but I suppose it will eventually weather off, exposing the paint of the can.... mARK |
Garden Labeling advice please
On 13/4/08 17:39, in article , "Mark
Nicholls" wrote: snip I don't think waterproofing is necessary - you use the pen to 'emboss' the metal, rather than to write on it with ink. Not sure what to make of the label on the reverse side though - it seems it's just to use as a template to cut around, but I suppose it will eventually weather off, exposing the paint of the can.... mARK Looks finger-shreddin' good to me........ -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
Garden Labeling advice please
"Pat Gardiner" wrote in message ... I'd like some advice please. I have a large garden, orchards, greenhouses and tunnels. Vegetables, soft and top fruit, vegetables both under cover and outside. Labelling takes a lot of effort, creates many blunt pencils and a bad temper. I have found a pencil that stays readable for longer "Rainbow"- but even so, I like to label the many fruit varieties accurately and get it to stay readable. I have been looking at these machines that are about, they seem to make a flexible label suitable for trees and soft fruit, but I wonder if there is a dual purpose one that can also produce stiff plastic. Anyway, can anyone advise me about makes, their stengths and weaknesses and the all important labels themselves. I don't mind getting a special printer for the garden, as my wife is happy to explain in detail I can spend like a drunken sailor on it, but I do have 'puter and a good HP office printer. Would I be duplicating something I can do already? Is it just a question of buying the right ink and sheets of labels? I would like, if possible, to print on both sides of the label. Nowadays, I get some help and it is useful if I can f.e. print "Prune March, pick October." TIA Getting back to the original question, and ignoring my store of tales about my wife's notorious and scandalous nurserymen's family. ( children switch labels indeed! What British children, with their unblemished record for being well-controlled? It would have been Bessarabian dwarfs employed by the competition. ) I have found something that might be interesting. It looks too good - there must be a snag! A stationers pointed me to the DYMO range. http://global.dymo.com/enUS/Labels/default.html These are used in offices, shops, stores etc and range from hand help upwards. The basic machines run from about Pounds 25 and the output is many colours. I think it is some kind of heat sensitive paper printed black,not ink, with a plastic feel. On the back is a peel off sticky surface. I could not imagine a muddy thumbnail less gardener managing to peel that off, but it is cleverer than that - you bend the label and a pull off tab emerges longditudally. The labels might be a bit dear, but there are lots of suppliers. Has anyone tried this system? The output looks very suitable for sticking to wood, plastic. I can imagine sticking them to tree trunks, trays and plastic labels. I can't see where they advertise them as being suitable for gardeners or where they produce specific labels, which seems odd. Perhaps they bring out large red spots on marauding children? -- Regards Pat Gardiner Test British pigs for MRSA now! www.go-self-sufficient.com -- Regards Pat Gardiner Test British pigs for MRSA now! www.go-self-sufficient.com |
Garden Labeling advice please
On 14/4/08 16:40, in article , "Pat
Gardiner" wrote: snip A stationers pointed me to the DYMO range. http://global.dymo.com/enUS/Labels/default.html snip Has anyone tried this system? The output looks very suitable for sticking to wood, plastic. I can imagine sticking them to tree trunks, trays and plastic labels. I can't see where they advertise them as being suitable for gardeners or where they produce specific labels, which seems odd. Bob Hobden and I have both said upthread that we've used Dymo labels for our gardens. They seem to last pretty well. Perhaps they bring out large red spots on marauding children? I wish! We had one trying to swing from an empty hanging basket the other day. I don't know if it's just me but modern parents seem to lack all responsibility or common sense sometimes! I do admit to telling one particularly idiotic woman who was allowing her 3 year old to wander alone around the garden, that this is a plant nursery not a child nursery! I did it politely and with a smile but I think she got the message! -- Sacha |
Garden Labeling advice please
"Sacha" wrote in message ... On 14/4/08 16:40, in article , "Pat Gardiner" wrote: snip A stationers pointed me to the DYMO range. http://global.dymo.com/enUS/Labels/default.html snip Has anyone tried this system? The output looks very suitable for sticking to wood, plastic. I can imagine sticking them to tree trunks, trays and plastic labels. I can't see where they advertise them as being suitable for gardeners or where they produce specific labels, which seems odd. Bob Hobden and I have both said upthread that we've used Dymo labels for our gardens. They seem to last pretty well. Sorry! Unfortunately a complication of recent medical problems has been occasional gaps in my memory. Long ops and intensive care can do that, it seems. I didn't know that and thought I was getting Alzheimer's. It frustrates everyone and embarrasses me, not least when I tell them the same thing three times. Fortunately, it rarely impacts on anything important. My long term memory is fine It is mainly things like remembering where I put things. Now I have told you why labelling is so important to me! I have to label immediately or I have no chance. I suspect a lot of gardeners, and not just the older ones, have similar problems. Perhaps they bring out large red spots on marauding children? I wish! We had one trying to swing from an empty hanging basket the other day. I don't know if it's just me but modern parents seem to lack all responsibility or common sense sometimes! I do admit to telling one particularly idiotic woman who was allowing her 3 year old to wander alone around the garden, that this is a plant nursery not a child nursery! I did it politely and with a smile but I think she got the message! Actually, as you can see my specialist subject is MRSA - and not because I have had it, I haven't. One cannot help having sympathy for the hospitals. You should see some of the behaviour of parents in controlling young children on acute wards with sick people. A former policeman friend kept a pub and he solved the problem of unruly children very easily. He would fix the parents with a very firm eye as they arrived. "Children are very welcome here, so long as they behave and stay up there!" He had a raised alcove in a corner away from the bar to which he pointed. They either took umbrage and walked out, or were quite happy with the arrangement. Either way, he was happy. I don't suppose you can do that with a garden centre. Right, I'm off to buy a Dymo, whilst I rememeber. Next time I post, check that I did it, will you? I have yet to tell you the true story of XXXX's Seed Testing Centre No.7. That was years ago, and I will rememeber that. -- Regards Pat Gardiner Test British pigs for MRSA now! www.go-self-sufficient.com -- Sacha |
Garden Labeling advice please
On 15/4/08 14:06, in article , "Pat Gardiner"
wrote: "Sacha" wrote in message ... On 14/4/08 16:40, in article , "Pat Gardiner" wrote: snip A stationers pointed me to the DYMO range. http://global.dymo.com/enUS/Labels/default.html snip Has anyone tried this system? The output looks very suitable for sticking to wood, plastic. I can imagine sticking them to tree trunks, trays and plastic labels. I can't see where they advertise them as being suitable for gardeners or where they produce specific labels, which seems odd. Bob Hobden and I have both said upthread that we've used Dymo labels for our gardens. They seem to last pretty well. Sorry! Unfortunately a complication of recent medical problems has been occasional gaps in my memory. Long ops and intensive care can do that, it seems. I didn't know that and thought I was getting Alzheimer's. It frustrates everyone and embarrasses me, not least when I tell them the same thing three times. Fortunately, it rarely impacts on anything important. My long term memory is fine It is mainly things like remembering where I put things. Now I have told you why labelling is so important to me! I have to label immediately or I have no chance. I suspect a lot of gardeners, and not just the older ones, have similar problems. I know I do! But I hope you're making a speedy recovery, Pat. I only mentioned that we'd mentioned it because not everyone sees every post. Some appear to go off into limbo where some of us are concerned. Perhaps they bring out large red spots on marauding children? I wish! We had one trying to swing from an empty hanging basket the other day. I don't know if it's just me but modern parents seem to lack all responsibility or common sense sometimes! I do admit to telling one particularly idiotic woman who was allowing her 3 year old to wander alone around the garden, that this is a plant nursery not a child nursery! I did it politely and with a smile but I think she got the message! Actually, as you can see my specialist subject is MRSA - and not because I have had it, I haven't. One cannot help having sympathy for the hospitals. You should see some of the behaviour of parents in controlling young children on acute wards with sick people. A former policeman friend kept a pub and he solved the problem of unruly children very easily. He would fix the parents with a very firm eye as they arrived. "Children are very welcome here, so long as they behave and stay up there!" He had a raised alcove in a corner away from the bar to which he pointed. We went to a pub here that had a notice up saying "Good children are welcome. Badly-behaved children will be sold as slaves". ;-) They either took umbrage and walked out, or were quite happy with the arrangement. Either way, he was happy. I don't suppose you can do that with a garden centre. Unhappily not. While we're concerned for our property - plants etc. and the limb of a rare Pinus Montezumae some young rip was swinging on the other day !!!!, we're also concerned for the safety of the children. We have some gravel paths and inevitably a lot of glass around. It is astonishing how many children go running up and down the greenhouses, inside and out, when a trip or slip would take them straight through a large pane of glass. I shouted to one to stop running on Sunday and his mother looked at me as if I was quite mad. I told her that little Johnny could cut his throat open if he went head first through a piece of glass. And last year one child swung on a *full* hanging basket and brought it crashing down, missing his head by inches. As it was filled with plants, compost and had been watered, it was very heavy. I really think it would have killed him if it had hit him. We have notices up asking people to stop their children riding in trolleys and two days ago Ray was too late to stop a toddler climb into a trolley and walk up the sloping end. Of course, it tipped over and he fell, hitting his chin and mercifully doing no real damage. His father 'hadn't noticed' what the child was up to and he was almost a baby - just big enough to toddle and climb a bit. Mind you, two years ago a fully grown up adult walked onto the coping stones at the edge of the pond, her weight broke the cement seal and she went straight into the water. She was ever so embarrassed...... Right, I'm off to buy a Dymo, whilst I rememeber. Next time I post, check that I did it, will you? I have yet to tell you the true story of XXXX's Seed Testing Centre No.7. That was years ago, and I will rememeber that. I think you'll have to visit us. You and Ray could spend hours swapping horror stories. ;-)) -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
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