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Hussein M. 22-04-2003 11:56 PM

Rejuvenating Clematis montana
 
Hello helpful people,

It's a 'legacy' plant with the bole at ground level about six
inches across. It is supported on a SE facing brick wall and was
unfortunately given Jasminium nudiflorum as a companion and that was
un pruned for years. The J. n.'s habit has lifted the Clematis off the
wall to a distance of about 3 -4 feet which is very annoying as the
garden is small enough as it is. The Jasmine is definitely being moved
when I do something about the Clematis.

I know montanas are in the 'no need to prune group' but was
wondering if I could attack it now (after it has finished flowering).
Actually I don't mind if I end up killing it because it is very old in
the tooth and there are better climbers for a small garden.

I have a feeling that they're fairly indestructible. Am I right?

TIA (oops) grin - it is after all the easiest and most memorable
one.

Hussein


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Charlie Pridham 23-04-2003 12:36 PM

Rejuvenating Clematis montana
 

"Hussein M." wrote in message
...
Hello helpful people,

It's a 'legacy' plant with the bole at ground level about six
inches across. It is supported on a SE facing brick wall and was
unfortunately given Jasminium nudiflorum as a companion and that was
un pruned for years. The J. n.'s habit has lifted the Clematis off the
wall to a distance of about 3 -4 feet which is very annoying as the
garden is small enough as it is. The Jasmine is definitely being moved
when I do something about the Clematis.

I know montanas are in the 'no need to prune group' but was
wondering if I could attack it now (after it has finished flowering).
Actually I don't mind if I end up killing it because it is very old in
the tooth and there are better climbers for a small garden.

I have a feeling that they're fairly indestructible. Am I right?

TIA (oops) grin - it is after all the easiest and most memorable
one.

Hussein


I usually reckon anything I can get loppers through is fair game, but if I
need a saw then I am pushing my luck! but you are correct they can be prune
after flowering and kept within bounds in even small gardens.

--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)



Rachel Sullivan 23-04-2003 08:36 PM

Rejuvenating Clematis montana
 
In article , Hussein M.
writes
Hello helpful people,

It's a 'legacy' plant with the bole at ground level about six
inches across. It is supported on a SE facing brick wall and was
unfortunately given Jasminium nudiflorum as a companion and that was
un pruned for years. The J. n.'s habit has lifted the Clematis off the
wall to a distance of about 3 -4 feet which is very annoying as the
garden is small enough as it is. The Jasmine is definitely being moved
when I do something about the Clematis.


What a tangle! But sortable.

I know montanas are in the 'no need to prune group' but was
wondering if I could attack it now (after it has finished flowering).
Actually I don't mind if I end up killing it because it is very old in
the tooth and there are better climbers for a small garden.


Yes. Let it flower & then give it a really severe pruning. You could
take it right down to the ground & see what happened. It's old, so it
will probably kill it, but they have been known to spring anew, like a
phoenix from the ashes. If it does, keep it pruned back in June so it
doesn't become a monster again.

I have a feeling that they're fairly indestructible. Am I right?


Sort of. They're pretty tough, but like all clematis, they seem to have
a mind of their own.

--
Rachel
Clematis Web Site
http://www.ukclematis.co.uk/

Hussein M. 24-04-2003 12:08 AM

Rejuvenating Clematis montana
 
On Wed, 23 Apr 2003 12:19:59 +0100, "Charlie Pridham"
wrote:


"Hussein M." wrote in message
.. .
Hello helpful people,

It's a 'legacy' plant with the bole at ground level about six
inches across. It is supported on a SE facing brick wall and was
unfortunately given Jasminium nudiflorum as a companion and that was
un pruned for years. The J. n.'s habit has lifted the Clematis off the
wall to a distance of about 3 -4 feet which is very annoying as the
garden is small enough as it is. The Jasmine is definitely being moved
when I do something about the Clematis.

I know montanas are in the 'no need to prune group' but was
wondering if I could attack it now (after it has finished flowering).
Actually I don't mind if I end up killing it because it is very old in
the tooth and there are better climbers for a small garden.

I have a feeling that they're fairly indestructible. Am I right?

TIA (oops) grin - it is after all the easiest and most memorable
one.

Hussein


I usually reckon anything I can get loppers through is fair game, but if I
need a saw then I am pushing my luck! but you are correct they can be prune
after flowering and kept within bounds in even small gardens.


Thanks to you and Rachel for your reassurances.

Hussein

Grow a little garden

spam block - for real addy, reverse letters of second level domain.

Michael Berridge 24-04-2003 12:44 AM

Rejuvenating Clematis montana
 

Charlie Pridham wrote in message
...



I usually reckon anything I can get loppers through is fair game, but

if I
need a saw then I am pushing my luck! but you are correct they can be

prune
after flowering and kept within bounds in even small gardens.

There is a new variety with yellow flowers, and is only grows to about
10 feet.

Mike
www.british-naturism.org.uk





Rod 24-04-2003 06:32 PM

Rejuvenating Clematis montana
 

"Hussein M." wrote in message Thanks to you and Rachel for your reassurances.

I'm only going to agree with Charlie & Rachel, the usual scenario is C. montana pulls down whatever it's climbing up -
at that point I just cut off almost everything leaving just a manageable framework of larger shoots to tie in to the
reinstated support. A couple of years later you wouldn't know anything had been done.

Rod



Rachel Sullivan 24-04-2003 07:44 PM

Rejuvenating Clematis montana
 
In article , Michael Berridge
writes

Charlie Pridham wrote in message
...



I usually reckon anything I can get loppers through is fair game, but

if I
need a saw then I am pushing my luck! but you are correct they can be

prune
after flowering and kept within bounds in even small gardens.

There is a new variety with yellow flowers, and is only grows to about
10 feet.


....allegedly :)

We have a one called Jenny Keay, sold as 'a dwarf montana' only getting
to 8ft or so...

....we'll see!

--
Rachel
Clematis Web Site
http://www.ukclematis.co.uk/

Charlie Pridham 25-04-2003 08:08 AM

Rejuvenating Clematis montana
 
There is a new variety with yellow flowers, and is only grows to about
10 feet.

Mike
www.british-naturism.org.uk


Yellow??? are you sure its montana?

--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)



Nick Maclaren 25-04-2003 08:08 AM

Rejuvenating Clematis montana
 

In article ,
"Charlie Pridham" writes:
| There is a new variety with yellow flowers, and is only grows to about
| 10 feet.
|
| Yellow??? are you sure its montana?

I have one of that type that is supposed to be cream, but it hasn't
flowered yet.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Rachel Sullivan 25-04-2003 09:44 PM

Rejuvenating Clematis montana
 
In article , Nick Maclaren
writes

In article ,
"Charlie Pridham" writes:
| There is a new variety with yellow flowers, and is only grows to about
| 10 feet.
|
| Yellow??? are you sure its montana?

I have one of that type that is supposed to be cream, but it hasn't
flowered yet.


The one we have is called 'Primrose Star' - a heavy cream colour and
only yellow if you are *very* charitable.
--
Rachel


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