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Sacha[_3_] 15-04-2008 02:03 PM

OT question for computer-y people
 
If I went mad and bought an iPhone, could I use it in New Zealand to call
and email to UK? I'm assuming the answer must be a 'yes'!

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Cat(h) 15-04-2008 02:19 PM

OT question for computer-y people
 
On Apr 15, 2:03*pm, Sacha wrote:
If I went mad and bought an iPhone, could I use it in New Zealand to call
and email to UK? *I'm assuming the answer must be a 'yes'!

--
Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'


I've used an Irish mobile phone (Nokia brand) in NZ, so the systems
are compatible.
I can confirm that you *are* mad to be buying an iPhone. There are
other phones on the market that do all that it does, only better, and
at a fraction of the price - or so says my techie other half. And you
do not *need* a super dooper phone in NZ. My old 6310 worked fine
over there. What I did, is that I bought a sim card locally, to use
in my own phone. I did the same in Australia. Much cheaper.
YMMV

Cat(h)

Mogga 15-04-2008 03:13 PM

OT question for computer-y people
 
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:03:11 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

If I went mad and bought an iPhone, could I use it in New Zealand to call
and email to UK? I'm assuming the answer must be a 'yes'!



Dunno. How does o2 work in NZ?

They are very cute. But they seem to need charging quite a lot. Big
screen and loads of cutesy things to do on them. But if you're after
an emaily phone there are better ones out there - which are a lot
cheaper to run.
You can *coughs* unlock an iphone but apple will spend half your life
trying to trash your phone next time you connect to itunes.

It is a Quad-band GSM phone
Inclusive data and Wi-Fi applies to use in the UK only so I assume
it'll cost you even more to use it abroad. V dear.

"Please note that some of the unique features of this device
automatically use data services. You may wish to turn some of these
services off before you travel, or be fully aware of the charges that
you are likely to incur."

It is probably cheaper to buy a laptop and pay for internet access in
NZ than buy an iphone and use that. :)

They are very cute though. Although I did get bored of playing youtube
on it after two days. I'm also quite concerned about that big screen
being quite breakable and it's a desirable object to steal too. I won
mine though, I wouldn't have paid for it.
--
http://www.orderonlinepickupinstore.co.uk
Ah fetch it yourself if you can't wait for delivery
http://www.freedeliveryuk.co.uk
http://www.holidayunder100.co.uk

Sacha[_3_] 15-04-2008 04:07 PM

OT question for computer-y people
 
On 15/4/08 15:13, in article ,
"Mogga" wrote:

On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:03:11 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

If I went mad and bought an iPhone, could I use it in New Zealand to call
and email to UK? I'm assuming the answer must be a 'yes'!



Dunno. How does o2 work in NZ?

They are very cute. But they seem to need charging quite a lot. Big
screen and loads of cutesy things to do on them. But if you're after
an emaily phone there are better ones out there - which are a lot
cheaper to run.
You can *coughs* unlock an iphone but apple will spend half your life
trying to trash your phone next time you connect to itunes.

It is a Quad-band GSM phone
Inclusive data and Wi-Fi applies to use in the UK only so I assume
it'll cost you even more to use it abroad. V dear.

"Please note that some of the unique features of this device
automatically use data services. You may wish to turn some of these
services off before you travel, or be fully aware of the charges that
you are likely to incur."

It is probably cheaper to buy a laptop and pay for internet access in
NZ than buy an iphone and use that. :)

They are very cute though. Although I did get bored of playing youtube
on it after two days. I'm also quite concerned about that big screen
being quite breakable and it's a desirable object to steal too. I won
mine though, I wouldn't have paid for it.


Thanks to you and Cat for helping me make up my mind NOT to get one! I was
toying with it because I need a new mobile and as we're going to NZ, I
wondered whether to combine the two. However, as I use my mobile extremely
rarely and find complicated ones terribly irritating (I currently have one
of Chocolate LGs which I hate) I was wondering whether to combine a phone
with having email facilities and now see that I'd be getting the worst of
all worlds! I might consider an Apple laptop but they're expensive and once
I get home I'll hardly use it. Probably!
Any recommendations for easy to use Mac compatible phones working with
Orange will be very welcome.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Dave Liquorice[_2_] 15-04-2008 04:46 PM

OT question for computer-y people
 
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 16:07:16 +0100, Sacha wrote:

Thanks to you and Cat for helping me make up my mind NOT to get one!


Good decision. B-)

I was wondering whether to combine a phone with having email facilities
and now see that I'd be getting the worst of all worlds!


Reading of short text only emails is OK on a phone, entering anything
througha phones keypad, even with T9, is a right royal PITA.

I have a iPaq PDA, that has a small but reasonable screen and can blue
tooth to my mobile for data if I'm not in a WiFi zone. Entry of stuff on
that is better with the handwriting or letter recognition. Still slow
compared to a keyboard though. Windows Mobile, so has Word, Excel IE and
Outlook.

Donno what the "Blackberry" type things are like for entry with the tiny
qwerty key pad.

--
Cheers
Dave.




Mogga 15-04-2008 07:05 PM

OT question for computer-y people
 
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 16:07:16 +0100, Sacha
wrote:


It is probably cheaper to buy a laptop and pay for internet access in
NZ than buy an iphone and use that. :)

They are very cute though. Although I did get bored of playing youtube
on it after two days. I'm also quite concerned about that big screen
being quite breakable and it's a desirable object to steal too. I won
mine though, I wouldn't have paid for it.


Thanks to you and Cat for helping me make up my mind NOT to get one! I was
toying with it because I need a new mobile and as we're going to NZ, I
wondered whether to combine the two. However, as I use my mobile extremely
rarely and find complicated ones terribly irritating (I currently have one
of Chocolate LGs which I hate) I was wondering whether to combine a phone
with having email facilities and now see that I'd be getting the worst of
all worlds! I might consider an Apple laptop but they're expensive and once
I get home I'll hardly use it. Probably!
Any recommendations for easy to use Mac compatible phones working with
Orange will be very welcome.



Why mac?
You can pick up incredibly cheap laptops at [even] pc world these
days - or other online shops like microdirect.
--
http://www.orderonlinepickupinstore.co.uk
Ah fetch it yourself if you can't wait for delivery
http://www.freedeliveryuk.co.uk
http://www.holidayunder100.co.uk

Sacha[_3_] 15-04-2008 10:49 PM

OT question for computer-y people
 
On 15/4/08 19:05, in article ,
"Mogga" wrote:

On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 16:07:16 +0100, Sacha
wrote:


It is probably cheaper to buy a laptop and pay for internet access in
NZ than buy an iphone and use that. :)

They are very cute though. Although I did get bored of playing youtube
on it after two days. I'm also quite concerned about that big screen
being quite breakable and it's a desirable object to steal too. I won
mine though, I wouldn't have paid for it.


Thanks to you and Cat for helping me make up my mind NOT to get one! I was
toying with it because I need a new mobile and as we're going to NZ, I
wondered whether to combine the two. However, as I use my mobile extremely
rarely and find complicated ones terribly irritating (I currently have one
of Chocolate LGs which I hate) I was wondering whether to combine a phone
with having email facilities and now see that I'd be getting the worst of
all worlds! I might consider an Apple laptop but they're expensive and once
I get home I'll hardly use it. Probably!
Any recommendations for easy to use Mac compatible phones working with
Orange will be very welcome.



Why mac?
You can pick up incredibly cheap laptops at [even] pc world these
days - or other online shops like microdirect.


I have an iMac as a desktop computer. It seems more sensible to stick to
that if I get a laptop?

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Bob Hobden 15-04-2008 11:19 PM

OT question for computer-y people
 

"Dave Liquorice" wrote after Sacha wrote:

Thanks to you and Cat for helping me make up my mind NOT to get one!


Good decision. B-)

I was wondering whether to combine a phone with having email facilities
and now see that I'd be getting the worst of all worlds!


Reading of short text only emails is OK on a phone, entering anything
througha phones keypad, even with T9, is a right royal PITA.

I have a iPaq PDA, that has a small but reasonable screen and can blue
tooth to my mobile for data if I'm not in a WiFi zone. Entry of stuff on
that is better with the handwriting or letter recognition. Still slow
compared to a keyboard though. Windows Mobile, so has Word, Excel IE and
Outlook.

Donno what the "Blackberry" type things are like for entry with the tiny
qwerty key pad.

My Nokia 6820a phone has a full but small QUERTY keyboard and although it's
old now I believe they still make similar.

--
Regards
Bob Hobden




Mogga 16-04-2008 10:45 AM

OT question for computer-y people
 
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:49:21 +0100, Sacha
wrote:



Why mac?
You can pick up incredibly cheap laptops at [even] pc world these
days - or other online shops like microdirect.


I have an iMac as a desktop computer. It seems more sensible to stick to
that if I get a laptop?


Ahh. Yes I can see the logic in that. (Can you get a mac emulator for
windows?) You could always have fun learning how to use a windows
machine though - asus eee is small, light and pretty. And very cheap.
You only need a browser and email program and they'll do just fine.
--
http://www.orderonlinepickupinstore.co.uk
Ah fetch it yourself if you can't wait for delivery
http://www.freedeliveryuk.co.uk
http://www.holidayunder100.co.uk

Sacha[_3_] 16-04-2008 11:38 AM

OT question for computer-y people
 
On 16/4/08 10:45, in article ,
"Mogga" wrote:

On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:49:21 +0100, Sacha
wrote:



Why mac?
You can pick up incredibly cheap laptops at [even] pc world these
days - or other online shops like microdirect.


I have an iMac as a desktop computer. It seems more sensible to stick to
that if I get a laptop?


Ahh. Yes I can see the logic in that. (Can you get a mac emulator for
windows?) You could always have fun learning how to use a windows
machine though - asus eee is small, light and pretty. And very cheap.
You only need a browser and email program and they'll do just fine.


Thanks for that. I'll have a think about it. I used to have a pc but am
so Mac orientated now, I'd probably be struggling. I have until October to
decide or to win the pools - if only I did them. ;-)
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



[email protected] 16-04-2008 12:12 PM

OT question for computer-y people
 
Mogga wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:49:21 +0100, Sacha
wrote:



Why mac?
You can pick up incredibly cheap laptops at [even] pc world these
days - or other online shops like microdirect.


I have an iMac as a desktop computer. It seems more sensible to stick to
that if I get a laptop?


Ahh. Yes I can see the logic in that. (Can you get a mac emulator for
windows?) You could always have fun learning how to use a windows
machine though - asus eee is small, light and pretty. And very cheap.


.... but the Asus eee isn't a Windows machine is it? .... or is that
what you were saying?

--
Chris Green

Sacha[_3_] 16-04-2008 01:15 PM

OT question for computer-y people
 
On 16/4/08 12:01, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 11:38:48 +0100, Sacha wrote:

On 16/4/08 10:45, in article
,
"Mogga" wrote:

On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:49:21 +0100, Sacha
wrote:



Why mac?
You can pick up incredibly cheap laptops at [even] pc world these
days - or other online shops like microdirect.

I have an iMac as a desktop computer. It seems more sensible to stick to
that if I get a laptop?

Ahh. Yes I can see the logic in that. (Can you get a mac emulator for
windows?) You could always have fun learning how to use a windows
machine though - asus eee is small, light and pretty. And very cheap.
You only need a browser and email program and they'll do just fine.


Thanks for that. I'll have a think about it. I used to have a pc but am
so Mac orientated now, I'd probably be struggling. I have until October to
decide or to win the pools - if only I did them. ;-)


You've been struggling with your Mac too :o)


So you want me to double my trouble? ;-)) Actually, now I've changed ISPs
I'm finding life a very great deal easier.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Cat(h) 16-04-2008 01:16 PM

OT question for computer-y people
 
On Apr 16, 10:45*am, Mogga wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:49:21 +0100, Sacha
wrote:



Why mac?
You can pick up incredibly cheap laptops at [even] *pc world these
days - or other online shops like microdirect.


I have an iMac as a desktop computer. *It seems more sensible to stick to
that if I get a laptop?


Ahh. Yes I can see the logic in that. (Can you get a mac emulator for
windows?) * You could always have fun learning how to use a windows
machine though - asus eee is small, light and pretty. And very cheap.
You only need a browser and email program and they'll do just fine.


I had a look at one of these, out of curiosity. They are impossibly
small to work on - keyboard impractical. Mind you, that's a relative
consideration when someone is willing to work with a blackberry type
thingie.

Cat(h)

Cat(h) 16-04-2008 01:18 PM

OT question for computer-y people
 
On Apr 16, 1:15*pm, Sacha wrote:
On 16/4/08 12:01, in article ,





"Martin" wrote:
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 11:38:48 +0100, Sacha wrote:


On 16/4/08 10:45, in article ,
"Mogga" wrote:


On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:49:21 +0100, Sacha
wrote:


Why mac?
You can pick up incredibly cheap laptops at [even] *pc world these
days - or other online shops like microdirect.


I have an iMac as a desktop computer. *It seems more sensible to stick to
that if I get a laptop?


Ahh. Yes I can see the logic in that. (Can you get a mac emulator for
windows?) * You could always have fun learning how to use a windows
machine though - asus eee is small, light and pretty. And very cheap.
You only need a browser and email program and they'll do just fine.


Thanks for that. *I'll have a think about it. *I used to have a pc but am
so Mac orientated now, I'd probably be struggling. *I have until October to
decide or to win the pools - if only I did them. *;-)


You've been struggling with your Mac too :o)


So you want me to double my trouble? *;-)) *Actually, now I've changed ISPs
I'm finding life a very great deal easier.


The EEE Mogga is talking about is Linux based, so not windows. It is
beautifully simple and cute as a button, but disastrously tiny to work
on. I'd rather spend a few more Euros, and buy a proper laptop -
they're available quite cheaply these days.


Cat(h)

Sacha[_3_] 16-04-2008 01:24 PM

OT question for computer-y people
 
On 16/4/08 13:18, in article
, "Cat(h)"
wrote:

On Apr 16, 1:15*pm, Sacha wrote:
On 16/4/08 12:01, in article ,





"Martin" wrote:
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 11:38:48 +0100, Sacha wrote:


On 16/4/08 10:45, in article ,
"Mogga" wrote:


On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:49:21 +0100, Sacha
wrote:


Why mac?
You can pick up incredibly cheap laptops at [even] *pc world these
days - or other online shops like microdirect.


I have an iMac as a desktop computer. *It seems more sensible to stick to
that if I get a laptop?


Ahh. Yes I can see the logic in that. (Can you get a mac emulator for
windows?) * You could always have fun learning how to use a windows
machine though - asus eee is small, light and pretty. And very cheap.
You only need a browser and email program and they'll do just fine.


Thanks for that. *I'll have a think about it. *I used to have a pc but am
so Mac orientated now, I'd probably be struggling. *I have until October to
decide or to win the pools - if only I did them. *;-)


You've been struggling with your Mac too :o)


So you want me to double my trouble? *;-)) *Actually, now I've changed ISPs
I'm finding life a very great deal easier.


The EEE Mogga is talking about is Linux based, so not windows. It is
beautifully simple and cute as a button, but disastrously tiny to work
on. I'd rather spend a few more Euros, and buy a proper laptop -
they're available quite cheaply these days.


Cat(h)

I think you're probably right! It's taken me long enough to adjust to the
smaller keyboard this new iMac desktop machine has. I was forever trying to
type on the desk itself!

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Dave Liquorice[_2_] 16-04-2008 02:09 PM

OT question for computer-y people
 
On 16 Apr 2008 11:12:28 GMT, wrote:

You could always have fun learning how to use a windows machine though
- asus eee is small, light and pretty. And very cheap.


.... but the Asus eee isn't a Windows machine is it?


I thought it was Linux based and comes with a broswer and email client
built in and Open Office I think. I did have a brief play with one but it
doesn't have a touch screen, moving the mouse pointer about with the
nipple was awful. How you drag 'n drop I don't know...

--
Cheers
Dave.




Mogga 16-04-2008 02:33 PM

OT question for computer-y people
 
On 16 Apr 2008 11:12:28 GMT, wrote:

Mogga wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:49:21 +0100, Sacha
wrote:



Why mac?
You can pick up incredibly cheap laptops at [even] pc world these
days - or other online shops like microdirect.

I have an iMac as a desktop computer. It seems more sensible to stick to
that if I get a laptop?


Ahh. Yes I can see the logic in that. (Can you get a mac emulator for
windows?) You could always have fun learning how to use a windows
machine though - asus eee is small, light and pretty. And very cheap.


... but the Asus eee isn't a Windows machine is it? .... or is that
what you were saying?


The last linux machine we set up was a million times easier than
windows. And it's cheaper because you're not paying for a windows
licence.
--
http://www.orderonlinepickupinstore.co.uk
Ah fetch it yourself if you can't wait for delivery
http://www.freedeliveryuk.co.uk
http://www.holidayunder100.co.uk

Mogga 16-04-2008 02:33 PM

OT question for computer-y people
 
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 05:16:35 -0700 (PDT), "Cat(h)"
wrote:

On Apr 16, 10:45*am, Mogga wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:49:21 +0100, Sacha
wrote:



Why mac?
You can pick up incredibly cheap laptops at [even] *pc world these
days - or other online shops like microdirect.


I have an iMac as a desktop computer. *It seems more sensible to stick to
that if I get a laptop?


Ahh. Yes I can see the logic in that. (Can you get a mac emulator for
windows?) * You could always have fun learning how to use a windows
machine though - asus eee is small, light and pretty. And very cheap.
You only need a browser and email program and they'll do just fine.


I had a look at one of these, out of curiosity. They are impossibly
small to work on - keyboard impractical. Mind you, that's a relative
consideration when someone is willing to work with a blackberry type
thingie.

Cat(h)


Quite, compared to an iphone they're huge.
:)
--
http://www.orderonlinepickupinstore.co.uk
Ah fetch it yourself if you can't wait for delivery
http://www.freedeliveryuk.co.uk
http://www.holidayunder100.co.uk

Cat(h) 16-04-2008 03:24 PM

OT question for computer-y people
 
On Apr 16, 2:33*pm, Mogga wrote:
On 16 Apr 2008 11:12:28 GMT, wrote:





Mogga wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:49:21 +0100, Sacha
wrote:


Why mac?
You can pick up incredibly cheap laptops at [even] *pc world these
days - or other online shops like microdirect.


I have an iMac as a desktop computer. *It seems more sensible to stick to
that if I get a laptop?


Ahh. Yes I can see the logic in that. (Can you get a mac emulator for
windows?) * You could always have fun learning how to use a windows
machine though - asus eee is small, light and pretty. And very cheap.


... but the Asus eee isn't a Windows machine is it? *.... or is that
what you were saying?


The last linux machine we set up was a million times easier than
windows. *And it's cheaper because you're not paying for a windows
licence.
--http://www.orderonlinepickupinstore.co.uk
Ah fetch it yourself if you can't wait for deliveryhttp://www.freedeliveryuk.co.ukhttp://www.holidayunder100.co.uk- Hide quoted text -

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I can vouch for all the above. The other half is a microsoft hater,
and he has me half converted to Linux and OO. Half only, mind,
because I work in the real world, where mostly everyone is on windowsy
programmes, and it is just too complicated toing and froing from one
to the other.
At this stage, I'll say "dandelion", just to bring us back on
topic ;-)

Cat(h)

Sacha[_3_] 16-04-2008 03:46 PM

OT question for computer-y people
 
On 16/4/08 14:33, in article ,
"Mogga" wrote:

On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 05:16:35 -0700 (PDT), "Cat(h)"
wrote:

On Apr 16, 10:45*am, Mogga wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:49:21 +0100, Sacha
wrote:



Why mac?
You can pick up incredibly cheap laptops at [even] *pc world these
days - or other online shops like microdirect.

I have an iMac as a desktop computer. *It seems more sensible to stick to
that if I get a laptop?

Ahh. Yes I can see the logic in that. (Can you get a mac emulator for
windows?) * You could always have fun learning how to use a windows
machine though - asus eee is small, light and pretty. And very cheap.
You only need a browser and email program and they'll do just fine.


I had a look at one of these, out of curiosity. They are impossibly
small to work on - keyboard impractical. Mind you, that's a relative
consideration when someone is willing to work with a blackberry type
thingie.

Cat(h)


Quite, compared to an iphone they're huge.
:)


This review says that but also says it's possible to download Windows onto
it and that they will be releasing a version with Windows on it.
http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/laptops/0,...93507-2,00.htm
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Granity 16-04-2008 04:13 PM

Unless you have a lot of E-Mails to send/receive, or they are of a sensitive nature just use a cyber café, it saves lugging a laptop around.

Dave Liquorice[_2_] 16-04-2008 04:44 PM

OT question for computer-y people
 
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 05:16:35 -0700 (PDT), Cat(h) wrote:

I had a look at one of these, out of curiosity. They are impossibly
small to work on - keyboard impractical.


Depends how you approach the keyboard. Certainly too small for touch
typing but probably all right for 2 or 4 finger "hunt & peck". Or you use
it like a Psion 3 or 5, cradled in the fingers of both hands and thumbs do
the typing.

I couldn't try that on the one I played with (in Toys 'R Us of all places)
as it was securly fixed to a plinth.

--
Cheers
Dave.




Tom 16-04-2008 05:48 PM

OT question for computer-y people
 
Sacha wrote:
If I went mad and bought an iPhone, could I use it in New Zealand to call
and email to UK? I'm assuming the answer must be a 'yes'!


Ok, I'm not going to get into an exchange on this as this is a nice
group but *personally* I think you've been ill advised.

The iPhones are fantastic. You may (and I sincerely doubt this) be able
to get a phone that does just as much technically, but the point is you
won't be able to use it. Anyone can pick up an iPhone and be a master of
it in 30 seconds - that's the apple genius.

Windows mobile is, well, windows so you're guaranteed to have a bad time
and blackberry's - who on earth thinks these are good??? I've got the
latest one for work and I loathe it. It's got the form and usability of
something from the 80s.

Now, about calling and emailing the UK, yes, you can. But watch with the
email and anything data related (web, itunes downloads) as you won't be
on the unlimited plan you're on in the UK and can get stung for HUGE
amounts of data charges.

But don't get one now anyway, the 3G one is out in June.

I'm friends with a lot of windows fanboys (and windows programmers) and
they all hated the iphone until they had a play. Now they all freely
admit it's superb.

Sacha[_3_] 16-04-2008 07:00 PM

OT question for computer-y people
 
On 16/4/08 17:16, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:15:47 +0100, Sacha wrote:

On 16/4/08 12:01, in article
,
"Martin" wrote:

On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 11:38:48 +0100, Sacha wrote:

On 16/4/08 10:45, in article
,
"Mogga" wrote:

On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:49:21 +0100, Sacha
wrote:



Why mac?
You can pick up incredibly cheap laptops at [even] pc world these
days - or other online shops like microdirect.

I have an iMac as a desktop computer. It seems more sensible to stick to
that if I get a laptop?

Ahh. Yes I can see the logic in that. (Can you get a mac emulator for
windows?) You could always have fun learning how to use a windows
machine though - asus eee is small, light and pretty. And very cheap.
You only need a browser and email program and they'll do just fine.

Thanks for that. I'll have a think about it. I used to have a pc but am
so Mac orientated now, I'd probably be struggling. I have until October to
decide or to win the pools - if only I did them. ;-)

You've been struggling with your Mac too :o)


So you want me to double my trouble? ;-))


I thought it would make life easier for us.


Well, excuse ME, Typo King! ;-)



--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Sacha[_3_] 16-04-2008 07:06 PM

OT question for computer-y people
 
On 16/4/08 17:48, in article Wd6dncgScuhTsJvVnZ2dnUVZ8t2snZ2d@plusnet, "Tom"
wrote:

Sacha wrote:
If I went mad and bought an iPhone, could I use it in New Zealand to call
and email to UK? I'm assuming the answer must be a 'yes'!


Ok, I'm not going to get into an exchange on this as this is a nice
group but *personally* I think you've been ill advised.

The iPhones are fantastic. You may (and I sincerely doubt this) be able
to get a phone that does just as much technically, but the point is you
won't be able to use it. Anyone can pick up an iPhone and be a master of
it in 30 seconds - that's the apple genius.

Windows mobile is, well, windows so you're guaranteed to have a bad time
and blackberry's - who on earth thinks these are good??? I've got the
latest one for work and I loathe it. It's got the form and usability of
something from the 80s.

Now, about calling and emailing the UK, yes, you can. But watch with the
email and anything data related (web, itunes downloads) as you won't be
on the unlimited plan you're on in the UK and can get stung for HUGE
amounts of data charges.

But don't get one now anyway, the 3G one is out in June.

I'm friends with a lot of windows fanboys (and windows programmers) and
they all hated the iphone until they had a play. Now they all freely
admit it's superb.


Thanks, Tom. I think my best bet is to go and have look at it. I'm put off
a bit by tales of high O2 subs etc., because although I have a monthly plan
with Orange, I use my phone so rarely that I never use up all my allotted
time. If it wasn't for travelling, I'd have one of those phones that do
nothing but make calls and take calls. Occasionally, I take pics on mine
but I never play music or do any other of the 1001 things it can apparently
achieve. I think I'm of the generation that thinks it's rude to be talking
personal stuff in front of other people so my calls tend to be restricted to
"I'm ready you can pick me up now" or "What colour shirt did you say you
want?" if I'm shopping. I just don't do chat on a mobile. ;-)
OTOH, I could do what I did when sailing in the days before mobile phones
and simply ring or send emails when I find an internet café, or something!
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Sacha[_3_] 16-04-2008 07:13 PM

OT question for computer-y people
 
On 16/4/08 19:10, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 19:00:31 +0100, Sacha wrote:

snip
You've been struggling with your Mac too :o)

So you want me to double my trouble? ;-))

I thought it would make life easier for us.


Well, excuse ME, Typo King! ;-)


LOL


Yes, I thought you'd enjoy that one!

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Sally Thompson 16-04-2008 10:10 PM

OT question for computer-y people
 
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 19:06:22 +0100, Sacha wrote
(in article ):

On 16/4/08 17:48, in article Wd6dncgScuhTsJvVnZ2dnUVZ8t2snZ2d@plusnet, "Tom"
wrote:

Sacha wrote:
If I went mad and bought an iPhone, could I use it in New Zealand to call
and email to UK? I'm assuming the answer must be a 'yes'!


Ok, I'm not going to get into an exchange on this as this is a nice
group but *personally* I think you've been ill advised.

The iPhones are fantastic. You may (and I sincerely doubt this) be able
to get a phone that does just as much technically, but the point is you
won't be able to use it. Anyone can pick up an iPhone and be a master of
it in 30 seconds - that's the apple genius.

Windows mobile is, well, windows so you're guaranteed to have a bad time
and blackberry's - who on earth thinks these are good??? I've got the
latest one for work and I loathe it. It's got the form and usability of
something from the 80s.

Now, about calling and emailing the UK, yes, you can. But watch with the
email and anything data related (web, itunes downloads) as you won't be
on the unlimited plan you're on in the UK and can get stung for HUGE
amounts of data charges.

But don't get one now anyway, the 3G one is out in June.

I'm friends with a lot of windows fanboys (and windows programmers) and
they all hated the iphone until they had a play. Now they all freely
admit it's superb.


Thanks, Tom. I think my best bet is to go and have look at it. I'm put off
a bit by tales of high O2 subs etc., because although I have a monthly plan
with Orange, I use my phone so rarely that I never use up all my allotted
time. If it wasn't for travelling, I'd have one of those phones that do
nothing but make calls and take calls. Occasionally, I take pics on mine
but I never play music or do any other of the 1001 things it can apparently
achieve. I think I'm of the generation that thinks it's rude to be talking
personal stuff in front of other people so my calls tend to be restricted to
"I'm ready you can pick me up now" or "What colour shirt did you say you
want?" if I'm shopping. I just don't do chat on a mobile. ;-)
OTOH, I could do what I did when sailing in the days before mobile phones
and simply ring or send emails when I find an internet café, or something!


My son has one which I have played with and I think it's fantastic, and I
want, I want, I want! ... but I _am_ put off by the O2 sub. It isn't that
it's expensive for what it is, it's just that, like you, I only use my phone
occasionally and we now have pay as you go because it's cheaper. You can't
do that on an iPhone.

Presumably whatever you buy you need to make sure it has newsgroup access :-)
As far as the Asus Eee is concerned, I cannot think why you would want to put
Windows on it. Linux is good! If you don't like Open Office, you would be
able to download Neo Office which is also free and IMO nicer than Open
Office.

--
Sally in Shropshire, UK
Burne-Jones/William Morris window in Shropshire church with conservation
churchyard:
http://www.whitton-stmarys.org.uk



Stan The Man 17-04-2008 12:19 AM

OT question for computer-y people
 
On 2008-04-16 17:48:15 +0100, Tom said:

Sacha wrote:
If I went mad and bought an iPhone, could I use it in New Zealand to call
and email to UK? I'm assuming the answer must be a 'yes'!


Ok, I'm not going to get into an exchange on this as this is a nice
group but *personally* I think you've been ill advised.

The iPhones are fantastic. You may (and I sincerely doubt this) be able
to get a phone that does just as much technically, but the point is you
won't be able to use it. Anyone can pick up an iPhone and be a master
of it in 30 seconds - that's the apple genius.

Windows mobile is, well, windows so you're guaranteed to have a bad
time and blackberry's - who on earth thinks these are good??? I've got
the latest one for work and I loathe it. It's got the form and
usability of something from the 80s.

Now, about calling and emailing the UK, yes, you can. But watch with
the email and anything data related (web, itunes downloads) as you
won't be on the unlimited plan you're on in the UK and can get stung
for HUGE amounts of data charges.

But don't get one now anyway, the 3G one is out in June.

I'm friends with a lot of windows fanboys (and windows programmers) and
they all hated the iphone until they had a play. Now they all freely
admit it's superb.


Unless you're happy with 2G and want to take advantage of today's £100
price cut...

http://www.trustedreviews.com/apple/...rice-To-169/p1



Tom 17-04-2008 10:33 AM

OT question for computer-y people
 


Thanks, Tom. I think my best bet is to go and have look at it. I'm put off
a bit by tales of high O2 subs etc., because although I have a monthly plan
with Orange, I use my phone so rarely that I never use up all my allotted
time. If it wasn't for travelling, I'd have one of those phones that do
nothing but make calls and take calls. Occasionally, I take pics on mine
but I never play music or do any other of the 1001 things it can apparently
achieve. I think I'm of the generation that thinks it's rude to be talking
personal stuff in front of other people so my calls tend to be restricted to
"I'm ready you can pick me up now" or "What colour shirt did you say you
want?" if I'm shopping. I just don't do chat on a mobile. ;-)
OTOH, I could do what I did when sailing in the days before mobile phones
and simply ring or send emails when I find an internet café, or something!


Hi, yes, I'm certainly no expert but the o2 rates seem good value - but
that's *only* if you use the telephone / internet / sms messages a lot.

Having unlimited data on the iphone plans is fantastic as you avoid the
punitive charges the other operators attach to their data rates, but
again - it's only good if you're doing a lot of internet browsing and
email.

I'm waiting for the 3g phone in June. But my boss and a few friends have
the current one and it's lovely. The web browsing is as nice as from
your home computer.

Cheers,

Tom

bobharvey 18-04-2008 06:01 AM

OT question for computer-y people
 
On 15 Apr, 22:49, Sacha wrote:
I have an iMac as a desktop computer. It seems more sensible to stick to
that if I get a laptop?


Or consider what you need it for and think about one of these:
http://eeepc.asus.com/global/product.htm

The 4G model is around £250. It uses a suer-friendly version of
Linux, and if you won't want it on return, you will probably be able
to sell it for very close to what you paid for it.




Sacha[_3_] 18-04-2008 09:41 AM

OT question for computer-y people
 
On 18/4/08 06:01, in article
,
"bobharvey" wrote:

On 15 Apr, 22:49, Sacha wrote:
I have an iMac as a desktop computer. It seems more sensible to stick to
that if I get a laptop?


Or consider what you need it for and think about one of these:
http://eeepc.asus.com/global/product.htm

The 4G model is around £250. It uses a suer-friendly version of
Linux, and if you won't want it on return, you will probably be able
to sell it for very close to what you paid for it.



Yes, that has been recommended to me already and I'm think about it very
seriously. Thank you.


--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Sacha[_3_] 18-04-2008 02:14 PM

OT question for computer-y people
 
On 18/4/08 11:10, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:41:20 +0100, Sacha wrote:

On 18/4/08 06:01, in article
,
"bobharvey" wrote:

On 15 Apr, 22:49, Sacha wrote:
I have an iMac as a desktop computer. It seems more sensible to stick to
that if I get a laptop?

Or consider what you need it for and think about one of these:
http://eeepc.asus.com/global/product.htm

The 4G model is around £250. It uses a suer-friendly version of
Linux, and if you won't want it on return, you will probably be able
to sell it for very close to what you paid for it.



Yes, that has been recommended to me already and I'm think about it very
seriously. Thank you.


Look at the photo of the keyboard being used by children and wonder what it
looks like when used by adult hands.


I will but for the amount I'll be using it, it doesn't seem a great bother.
And it can't be worse than using a mobile phone which really does drive me
mad if I'm texting!
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Cat(h) 18-04-2008 05:02 PM

OT question for computer-y people
 
On Apr 18, 9:41Â*am, Sacha wrote:
On 18/4/08 06:01, in article
,

"bobharvey" wrote:
On 15 Apr, 22:49, Sacha wrote:
I have an iMac as a desktop computer. Â*It seems more sensible to stick to
that if I get a laptop?


Or consider what you need it for and think about one of these:
http://eeepc.asus.com/global/product.htm


The 4G model is around �250. Â*It uses a suer-friendly version of
Linux, and if you won't want it on return, you will probably be able
to sell it for very close to what you paid for it.


Yes, that has been recommended to me already and I'm think about it very
seriously. Â*Thank you.


Sacha, this is your decision of course, but if your purpose is to 1)
purchase a phone to replace your current one, which you do not use all
that much, and 2) be able to email and phone home from time to time
while travelling in NZ, I would respectfully suggest the following:
1) Buy a bog standard Nokia (or whatever) that you can phone and text
with.
2) Get yourself a NZ sim when you get there
3) Hit the local internet cafe (cheap) or library (free) when you get
there, to email home from a web-based email account such as hotmail or
yahoo.

Of course, if you are secretly lusting after a seriously sexy
multifunctional phone that will make you coffee in the morning, knock
yourself out, girl! ;-)

Cat(h)



Sacha[_3_] 18-04-2008 06:56 PM

OT question for computer-y people
 
On 18/4/08 17:02, in article
, "Cat(h)"
wrote:

On Apr 18, 9:41*am, Sacha wrote:
On 18/4/08 06:01, in article
,

"bobharvey" wrote:
On 15 Apr, 22:49, Sacha wrote:
I have an iMac as a desktop computer. *It seems more sensible to stick to
that if I get a laptop?


Or consider what you need it for and think about one of these:
http://eeepc.asus.com/global/product.htm

The 4G model is around ?250. *It uses a suer-friendly version of
Linux, and if you won't want it on return, you will probably be able
to sell it for very close to what you paid for it.


Yes, that has been recommended to me already and I'm think about it very
seriously. *Thank you.


Sacha, this is your decision of course, but if your purpose is to 1)
purchase a phone to replace your current one, which you do not use all
that much, and 2) be able to email and phone home from time to time
while travelling in NZ, I would respectfully suggest the following:
1) Buy a bog standard Nokia (or whatever) that you can phone and text
with.
2) Get yourself a NZ sim when you get there
3) Hit the local internet cafe (cheap) or library (free) when you get
there, to email home from a web-based email account such as hotmail or
yahoo.


Good words, Cat, because that really is all I want!

Of course, if you are secretly lusting after a seriously sexy
multifunctional phone that will make you coffee in the morning, knock
yourself out, girl! ;-)


Too late for that. ;-))

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'




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