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Sierra Nevada flower
Like a small gorse, except blue. No seeds at this time of year, unfortunately :-( But what is it? It looked an excellent plant for a dry, sunny bank? Obviously cold-hardy, deer resistant, yada yada .... Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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says... Like a small gorse, except blue. No seeds at this time of year, unfortunately :-( But what is it? It looked an excellent plant for a dry, sunny bank? Obviously cold-hardy, deer resistant, yada yada .... Regards, Nick Maclaren. had you meant to give a picture link? -- Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall www.roselandhouse.co.uk Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and Lapageria rosea |
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In article , Charlie Pridham writes: | | Like a small gorse, except blue. No seeds at this time of year, | unfortunately :-( | | But what is it? It looked an excellent plant for a dry, sunny | bank? Obviously cold-hardy, deer resistant, yada yada .... | | had you meant to give a picture link? No. My wife took one, and I will do so when she unloads it and if I can find somewhere to put it. But I can't believe that there are many such plants. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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On Apr 25, 12:49 pm, (Nick Maclaren) wrote:
Like a small gorse, except blue. No seeds at this time of year, unfortunately :-( But what is it? It looked an excellent plant for a dry, sunny bank? Obviously cold-hardy, deer resistant, yada yada .... Regards, Nick Maclaren. There was a guy who put photos of a blue flowered broom up here a few years ago; Iberian broom with blue flowers and low mound habit. Hedgehog broom or something like that was the verdict (I just searched the newsgroup; Dave Poole identified it as Erinacea). http://www.azenhadoramalho.com/plantid.htm |
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In message , Nick Maclaren
writes Like a small gorse, except blue. No seeds at this time of year, unfortunately :-( But what is it? It looked an excellent plant for a dry, sunny bank? Obviously cold-hardy, deer resistant, yada yada .... Regards, Nick Maclaren. Going to the Jepson Flora Project and looking for blue-flowered legumes comes up with Psorothamnus (several species thereof). The other blue flowered legumes in California (e.g. several lupins and vetches) aren't spinous (fide Google, but Google was being obviously reluctant to provide complete search results - e.g. Psorothamnus blue was producing more hits for Psorothamnus than Fabaceae blue, even though they should have produced the same). But the range given doesn't include the Sierra Nevada, though some species occur in mountains of the Mohave Desert or Basin and Range Province. http://ucjeps.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/g...t.pl?3691,4186 http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=PSORO -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
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On Apr 25, 2:28 pm, Stewart Robert Hinsley
wrote: In message , Nick Maclaren writes Like a small gorse, except blue. No seeds at this time of year, unfortunately :-( But what is it? It looked an excellent plant for a dry, sunny bank? Obviously cold-hardy, deer resistant, yada yada .... Regards, Nick Maclaren. Going to the Jepson Flora Project and looking for blue-flowered legumes comes up with Psorothamnus (several species thereof). The other blue flowered legumes in California (e.g. several lupins and vetches) aren't spinous (fide Google, but Google was being obviously reluctant to provide complete search results - e.g. Psorothamnus blue was producing more hits for Psorothamnus than Fabaceae blue, even though they should have produced the same). But the range given doesn't include the Sierra Nevada, though some species occur in mountains of the Mohave Desert or Basin and Range Province. http://ucjeps.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/g...t.pl?3691,4186 http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=PSORO -- Stewart Robert Hinsley California??? bugger; I assumed Sierra Nevada was in Spain; oh well; scratch Erinacea than :-) |
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, Des Higgins writes On Apr 25, 2:28 pm, Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote: In message , Nick Maclaren writes Like a small gorse, except blue. No seeds at this time of year, unfortunately :-( But what is it? It looked an excellent plant for a dry, sunny bank? Obviously cold-hardy, deer resistant, yada yada .... Regards, Nick Maclaren. Going to the Jepson Flora Project and looking for blue-flowered legumes comes up with Psorothamnus (several species thereof). The other blue flowered legumes in California (e.g. several lupins and vetches) aren't spinous (fide Google, but Google was being obviously reluctant to provide complete search results - e.g. Psorothamnus blue was producing more hits for Psorothamnus than Fabaceae blue, even though they should have produced the same). But the range given doesn't include the Sierra Nevada, though some species occur in mountains of the Mohave Desert or Basin and Range Province. http://ucjeps.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/g...t.pl?3691,4186 http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=PSORO -- Stewart Robert Hinsley California??? bugger; I assumed Sierra Nevada was in Spain; oh well; scratch Erinacea than :-) You may have assumed correctly. There's a Sierra Nevada in Spain, and a Sierra Nevada in California (also in Mexico and Chile, fide Wikipedia). I assumed the second, quite possibly incorrectly (being in correspondence about a plant from Baja at the moment may have biased my interpretation). The fact that the Jepson Flora Project is not producing a good match is a point in favour of your assumption. For Spanish plants see URL:http://www.rjb.csic.es/floraiberica/..._.php?familia= Leguminosae It's probably not quite as voluminous as the Californian flora, but it's still inconveniently large. -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
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In article , Stewart Robert Hinsley writes: | | But the range given doesn't include the Sierra Nevada, though some | species occur in mountains of the Mohave Desert or Basin and Range | Province. Er, sorry, I meant the original Sierra Nevada :-) Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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In article , Des Higgins writes: | | Like a small gorse, except blue. No seeds at this time of year, | unfortunately :-( | | But what is it? It looked an excellent plant for a dry, sunny | bank? Obviously cold-hardy, deer resistant, yada yada .... | | There was a guy who put photos of a blue flowered broom up here a few | years ago; Iberian broom with blue flowers and low mound habit. | Hedgehog broom or something like that was the verdict (I just searched | the newsgroup; Dave Poole identified it as Erinacea). | http://www.azenhadoramalho.com/plantid.htm Thanks very much! Mine didn't have quite the same growth pattern, and wasn't quite such a good colour, but the difference is well within what one would expect for different locations. Yes, it is that; see: http://www.ubcbotanicalgarden.org/po...nthyllis_1.php The colour I saw was closer to the link you posted, though less bright. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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"Sacha" wrote What a fantastic colour - I want that. I wonder if it's available in UK....... http://www.ingwersen.co.uk/Erinacea%20anthyllis.htm -- Regards Bob Hobden |
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In article , "Bob Hobden" writes: | "Sacha" wrote | | What a fantastic colour - I want that. I wonder if it's available in | UK....... | | http://www.ingwersen.co.uk/Erinacea%20anthyllis.htm My guess is that it would be best grown in a pot full of aggregate on the south side of a house in a partial rain shadow. From where and how it was growing in the wild, none of frost, drought or cats would worry it at all :-) Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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On 25/4/08 19:03, in article , "Bob
Hobden" wrote: "Sacha" wrote What a fantastic colour - I want that. I wonder if it's available in UK....... http://www.ingwersen.co.uk/Erinacea%20anthyllis.htm That's lovely Bob and thank you. But it's not the amazingly intense blue of the original pic. I think it's that which truly grabbed my attention. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
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On 25/4/08 20:50, in article , "Nick
Maclaren" wrote: In article , "Bob Hobden" writes: | "Sacha" wrote | | What a fantastic colour - I want that. I wonder if it's available in | UK....... | | http://www.ingwersen.co.uk/Erinacea%20anthyllis.htm My guess is that it would be best grown in a pot full of aggregate on the south side of a house in a partial rain shadow. From where and how it was growing in the wild, none of frost, drought or cats would worry it at all :-) It's stunning, Nick. Did you not bring a few bits home with you?! Tsk! In a way it reminds me of an Eryngium that we saw growing in the Trodos mountains of Cyprus. The blue was so intense that they looked just as if they'd been spray-painted. I have never before, or since, seen anything like them. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
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In article , Sacha writes: | | It's stunning, Nick. Did you not bring a few bits home with you?! Tsk! In | a way it reminds me of an Eryngium that we saw growing in the Trodos | mountains of Cyprus. The blue was so intense that they looked just as if | they'd been spray-painted. I have never before, or since, seen anything | like them. I am not good with cuttings, but I did spend some time looking for seed-pods. No joy, unfortunately. The ones in the Sierra Nevada weren't as intense a blue as the picture, but were still a good blue. The plants are sufficiently distinctive that an autumn visitor should be able to collect seeds - it looks as if the Portugese variant may have the best colour. There was also a Cistus that I failed to find any full seed pods of, but it wasn't all that exciting. Nice, but just another Cistus with small white flowers. I got some seeds from two street trees in Granada, which I can't offhand identify. I will chase up a bit and try to grow them. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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