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The Devil's Advocate 23-04-2003 08:58 PM

One wasp
 
Doesn't make a summer but I saw one this evening


From the English Riviera If you live in Paradise why would you want to go
abroad for a holiday? Answers on a postcard to
http://www.cornishlight.freeserve.co.uk/rame.htm



Andy 24-04-2003 03:20 AM

One wasp
 
On Wed, 23 Apr 2003 19:53:12 +0000 (UTC), "The Devil's Advocate"
wrote:

Doesn't make a summer but I saw one this evening


Me to. In Cambridgeshire. It was a small odd looking one.

Andy


Ophelia 24-04-2003 08:08 AM

One wasp
 

"Andy" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 23 Apr 2003 19:53:12 +0000 (UTC), "The Devil's Advocate"
wrote:

Doesn't make a summer but I saw one this evening


Me to. In Cambridgeshire. It was a small odd looking one.


We had one last week.

Ophelia
Scotland



The Reid 24-04-2003 08:32 AM

One wasp
 
Following up to Ophelia

We had one last week.


for dinner?
--
Mike Reid
"Art is the lie that reveals the truth" P.Picasso
London & the British hills "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk"
Spain, food and walking "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" (see web for email)

geoff 24-04-2003 08:44 AM

One wasp
 
Urgers,

"One wasp" at this time of year is usually a queen out of hibernation
looking for somewhere to "set up shop". A very large one might be a hornet
which have a fearful reputation but are not so bad as wasps. Whichever you
see, please do not kill them for they are great scavengers even though they
annoy one at times.

The swallows are still coming - saw lots yesterday crossing the Solent.

Regards


"The Devil's Advocate" said:-

Doesn't make a summer but I saw one this evening









H 24-04-2003 09:44 AM

One wasp
 
"One wasp" at this time of year is usually a queen out of hibernation

Been having my usual flight of wasps coming to my pond to collect water for
a while now.

- h



Snowman 24-04-2003 09:44 AM

One wasp
 

"geoff" wrote in message
...
Urgers,

"One wasp" at this time of year is usually a queen out of hibernation
looking for somewhere to "set up shop". A very large one might be a

hornet
which have a fearful reputation but are not so bad as wasps. Whichever

you
see, please do not kill them for they are great scavengers even though

they
annoy one at times.

I'm afraid we killed our's - it was in our loft bedroom and it's certainly
wasn't going to be allowed to "set up shop" there!



The Reid 24-04-2003 09:44 AM

One wasp
 
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Following up to geoff

Whichever you
see, please do not kill them for they are great scavengers even though they
annoy one at times.


annoy is probably an understatment if there is a nest nearbye and you
want to eat in the garden!
--
Mike Reid
"Art is the lie that reveals the truth" P.Picasso
London & the British hills "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk"
Spain, food and walking "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" (see web for email)

Stephen Howard 24-04-2003 10:08 AM

One wasp
 
On Thu, 24 Apr 2003 07:48:31 +0100, "Ophelia"
wrote:


"Andy" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 23 Apr 2003 19:53:12 +0000 (UTC), "The Devil's Advocate"
wrote:

Doesn't make a summer but I saw one this evening


Me to. In Cambridgeshire. It was a small odd looking one.


We had one last week.

I've been swatting the little ( or not so little ) buggers in my
workshop with a badders racquet for about the last fortnight.
Either they've been overwintering in the eaves, or they're attracted
by the laurel bushes outside and are finding their way in
inadvertently.

Regards,



--
Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations
www.shwoodwind.co.uk
Emails to: showard{whoisat}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk

Simon Avery 24-04-2003 10:08 AM

One wasp
 
"The Devil's Advocate" wrote:

Hello The

TDsA Doesn't make a summer but I saw one this evening

I killed a Queen yesterday. They're starting to come out of
hibernation and are hunting around for nesting sites.

If you see one, get the bugger quick before it turns itself into a
nest!

--
Simon Avery, Dartmoor, UK Ý http://www.digdilem.org/


Mark Allison 24-04-2003 10:08 AM

One wasp
 
I've got about 20 of them trying to make a nest in my cavity wall. I've had
to fill any breathing holes in the wall with blu tack, to stop them
building.

--
Mark Allison, SQL Server MVP
http://www.allisonmitchell.com



"The Devil's Advocate" wrote in
message ...
Doesn't make a summer but I saw one this evening


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Michael Saunby 24-04-2003 10:32 AM

One wasp
 

"H" wrote in message
...
"One wasp" at this time of year is usually a queen out of hibernation


Been having my usual flight of wasps coming to my pond to collect water

for
a while now.


Now that doesn't seem very likely. As a beekeeper, and having had visitors
to my home in the past declare "those are bees?? - I thought those were
wasps" I do rather despair at many folks ability to distinguish in even a
very basic way between wasps, honey bees and solitary bees. Honey bees
have been flying in large numbers for many weeks now - ours have been
enjoying the gorse and willow flowers.

I'll admit that wasps can be a nuisance to those with fruit trees, and to
many others in the autumn when they disperse. But even hornets are rarely a
problem for most folk - we get them here and they will raid beehives, but I
wouldn't kill them.

Michael Saunby



Stephen Howard 24-04-2003 11:20 AM

One wasp
 
On Thu, 24 Apr 2003 08:31:13 +0100, "geoff"
wrote:

Urgers,

"One wasp" at this time of year is usually a queen out of hibernation
looking for somewhere to "set up shop". A very large one might be a hornet
which have a fearful reputation but are not so bad as wasps. Whichever you
see, please do not kill them for they are great scavengers even though they
annoy one at times.

A couple of year ago I was busily working away at my lathe when a
sharp pain shot through my back.
The shock it gave me caused me to jump - and with my hand on one of
the feed wheels I bumped the lathe tool into the piece I was working
on, shattering the work.

It was a bloody wasp, it had crawled down my neck and stung my back -
I just didn't hear or feel the thing coming.

I got stung two more times that day, both in the same fashion.

I'll leave wasps alone in their own environment - much in the same way
that whilst I'll squash slugs on my veggy patch and flower beds I
won't squash them elsewhere - in their place these creatures have a
right to exist and perform a useful function.

I had an interesting encounter with a hornet last year...the results
of which might bring forth a few chuckles.

http://www.shwoodwind.co.uk/Notes/Yoiks.htm

Regards,



--
Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations
www.shwoodwind.co.uk
Emails to: showard{whoisat}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk

Serena Blanchflower 24-04-2003 12:32 PM

One wasp
 
On Wed, 23 Apr 2003 19:53:12 +0000 (UTC), "The Devil's Advocate"
wrote:

Doesn't make a summer but I saw one this evening


I've had one or two around for about the past month. The first one I
saw this year seemed fascinated by my bed head for some reason. For
several days it was a frequent visitor, inspecting my bed carefully
before going outside again. I don't think she was eating it, so I'm not
expecting to find a blue cotton wasps nest anywhere, but I don't know
what the fascination was.

I'm not too bothered by wasps, but I did find it rather disconcerting
listening to her buzzing only a foot or so from my head!

--
Serena

Sometimes I sits and thinks ... and sometimes I just sits. (Punch cartoon)

H 24-04-2003 12:32 PM

One wasp
 
Now that doesn't seem very likely. As a beekeeper, and having had
visitors
to my home in the past declare "those are bees?? - I thought those were
wasps" I do rather despair at many folks ability to distinguish in even a
very basic way between wasps, honey bees and solitary bees.


Having in the past been involved with bee-keeping, I do know the difference
between bees and wasps. I get both in my garden. The wasps come alone but
from the same direction. They fly over to my pond, land on a lily pad of
suchlike, have a drink them fly off back where they come from. They aren't
aggressive to me so I've left them alone. Live and let live.

Best,

- h



The Reid 24-04-2003 02:20 PM

One wasp
 
Following up to Serena Blanchflower

I've had one or two around for about the past month. The first one I
saw this year seemed fascinated by my bed head for some reason. For
several days it was a frequent visitor, inspecting my bed carefully
before going outside again. I don't think she was eating it, so I'm not
expecting to find a blue cotton wasps nest anywhere, but I don't know
what the fascination was.

I'm not too bothered by wasps, but I did find it rather disconcerting
listening to her buzzing only a foot or so from my head!


sounds like a queen looking for a nest site. Although i'm generally a
live and let live type I draw the line at wasps, especially queens.
--
Mike Reid
"Art is the lie that reveals the truth" P.Picasso
London & the British hills "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk"
Spain, food and walking "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" (see web for email)

Malcolm 24-04-2003 02:56 PM

One wasp
 

In article , Michael Saunby
writes

"H" wrote in message
...
"One wasp" at this time of year is usually a queen out of hibernation


Been having my usual flight of wasps coming to my pond to collect water

for
a while now.


Now that doesn't seem very likely. As a beekeeper, and having had visitors
to my home in the past declare "those are bees?? - I thought those were
wasps" I do rather despair at many folks ability to distinguish in even a
very basic way between wasps, honey bees and solitary bees. Honey bees
have been flying in large numbers for many weeks now - ours have been
enjoying the gorse and willow flowers.

I'll admit that wasps can be a nuisance to those with fruit trees, and to
many others in the autumn when they disperse. But even hornets are rarely a
problem for most folk - we get them here and they will raid beehives, but I
wouldn't kill them.

I personally wouldn't have put the "even" in front of the hornets. They
don't occur where I live now, but when we lived further south we had
them in the garden. They're much more docile and less aggressive than
wasps - big stripey pussycats, in fact :-)

--
Malcolm

geoff 24-04-2003 04:08 PM

One wasp
 

see, please do not kill them for they are great scavengers even though

they
annoy one at times.


annoy is probably an understatment if there is a nest nearbye and you
want to eat in the garden!
--

)

Don't be greedy: put one slice of ham between you and the wasps' nest.
They'll soon be diverted from your meal for they love ham.



geoff 24-04-2003 04:08 PM

One wasp
 

"Mark Allison" wrote in message
...
I've got about 20 of them trying to make a nest in my cavity wall. I've

had
to fill any breathing holes in the wall with blu tack, to stop them
building.


There's a species of bees that will dig a hole through mortar and build
their nest in the wall.




geoff 24-04-2003 04:08 PM

One wasp
 
snip. . . . . . inspecting my bed carefully
before going outside again. I don't think she was eating it, so I'm not
expecting to find a blue cotton wasps nest anywhere, but I don't know
what the fascination was.
Serena


Wasps will bite off bits of wood from posts and fallen trees to turn into
paper mache for their combs . . . but a BED POST??!!



Aileen Howard 24-04-2003 04:08 PM

One wasp
 
Won't go for ham salad in the summer then! It's expensive enough feeding
ourselves and the cat, but wasps as well?

Aileen


"geoff" wrote in message
...

see, please do not kill them for they are great scavengers even though

they
annoy one at times.


annoy is probably an understatment if there is a nest nearbye and you
want to eat in the garden!
--

)

Don't be greedy: put one slice of ham between you and the wasps' nest.
They'll soon be diverted from your meal for they love ham.





Drakanthus 24-04-2003 04:44 PM

One wasp
 
I personally wouldn't have put the "even" in front of the hornets. They
don't occur where I live now, but when we lived further south we had
them in the garden. They're much more docile and less aggressive than
wasps - big stripey pussycats, in fact :-)

Malcolm


That's how I think of bumble bees. My wife runs a mile, but I think they are sort
of "cute". I can be dead heading plants and they land in a flower next to my
hand - they never seem the slightest bit interested in me so I leave them to it.
Live and let live. Wasps on the other hand - its open warfare!
--
Drakanthus.


(Spam filter: Include the word VB anywhere in the subject line or emails
will never reach me.)



Malcolm 24-04-2003 05:20 PM

One wasp
 

In article , geoff
writes

"Mark Allison" wrote in message
...
I've got about 20 of them trying to make a nest in my cavity wall. I've

had
to fill any breathing holes in the wall with blu tack, to stop them
building.


There's a species of bees that will dig a hole through mortar and build
their nest in the wall.

More than one species - called Mason or Mortar Bees. They are solitary
bees, not colonial like honey bees, because each hole only contains one
female and her eggs or larvae, but sometimes large numbers live in holes
bored very close to each other and they can occasionally cause
considerable damage to house walls.

See http://www.nhm.ac.uk/entomology/insident/masonbee.html

--
Malcolm

Malcolm 24-04-2003 05:20 PM

One wasp
 

In article , geoff
writes
snip. . . . . . inspecting my bed carefully
before going outside again. I don't think she was eating it, so I'm not
expecting to find a blue cotton wasps nest anywhere, but I don't know
what the fascination was.
Serena


Wasps will bite off bits of wood from posts and fallen trees to turn into
paper mache for their combs . . . but a BED POST??!!

Perhaps it was after the chewing gum(1) !

(1) Showing my age....

--
Malcolm

Michael Saunby 24-04-2003 05:20 PM

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"Drakanthus" wrote in message
...
I personally wouldn't have put the "even" in front of the hornets. They
don't occur where I live now, but when we lived further south we had
them in the garden. They're much more docile and less aggressive than
wasps - big stripey pussycats, in fact :-)

Malcolm


That's how I think of bumble bees. My wife runs a mile, but I think they

are sort
of "cute". I can be dead heading plants and they land in a flower next to

my
hand - they never seem the slightest bit interested in me so I leave them

to it.
Live and let live. Wasps on the other hand - its open warfare!


Bumble bees I remove from the house by closing my hand around them - since
they rarely sting and it doesn't hurt much if they do. Wasps I'll admit I
tend to flick with a fingernail and then flick them out the window - some
live, some don't. Hornets I remove using a glass and a piece of paper.
The same for honey bees, though often they can be directed with a hand wave
or too.

For those that want to try the experimental method of working out what you
have by how much the sting hurts - wasp stings hurt a little (rather more
than a nettle) and a bee sting hurts like hell and the sting is left behind
with the venom sack still pumping. Not sure what a hornet sting is like,
probably like a wasp.

Michael Saunby



Mark Allison 24-04-2003 05:44 PM

One wasp
 
The wasps have tried to dig through the blu-tack with success once, I have
now reapplied the blu-tack a bit thicker now and they can't get through it.
They'll probably go next door...

--
Mark Allison, SQL Server MVP
http://www.allisonmitchell.com



"geoff" wrote in message
...

"Mark Allison" wrote in message
...
I've got about 20 of them trying to make a nest in my cavity wall. I've

had
to fill any breathing holes in the wall with blu tack, to stop them
building.


There's a species of bees that will dig a hole through mortar and build
their nest in the wall.







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Rob Jack 24-04-2003 06:44 PM

One wasp
 
In article ,
says...

"Drakanthus" wrote in message
...
I personally wouldn't have put the "even" in front of the hornets. They
don't occur where I live now, but when we lived further south we had
them in the garden. They're much more docile and less aggressive than
wasps - big stripey pussycats, in fact :-)

Malcolm


That's how I think of bumble bees. My wife runs a mile, but I think they

are sort
of "cute". I can be dead heading plants and they land in a flower next to

my
hand - they never seem the slightest bit interested in me so I leave them

to it.
Live and let live. Wasps on the other hand - its open warfare!


Bumble bees I remove from the house by closing my hand around them - since
they rarely sting and it doesn't hurt much if they do. Wasps I'll admit I
tend to flick with a fingernail and then flick them out the window - some
live, some don't. Hornets I remove using a glass and a piece of paper.
The same for honey bees, though often they can be directed with a hand wave
or too.

For those that want to try the experimental method of working out what you
have by how much the sting hurts - wasp stings hurt a little (rather more
than a nettle) and a bee sting hurts like hell and the sting is left behind
with the venom sack still pumping. Not sure what a hornet sting is like,
probably like a wasp.

Not strictly accurate as it can depend very much on the vulnerability of
the victim. Some people react very badly to wasp or bee stings as do
some people to Adder bites.
Rob

swroot 24-04-2003 06:56 PM

One wasp
 
Stephen Howard wrote:

On Thu, 24 Apr 2003 08:31:13 +0100, "geoff"
wrote:

Urgers,

"One wasp" at this time of year is usually a queen out of hibernation
looking for somewhere to "set up shop". A very large one might be a hornet
which have a fearful reputation but are not so bad as wasps. Whichever you
see, please do not kill them for they are great scavengers even though they
annoy one at times.

A couple of year ago I was busily working away at my lathe when a
sharp pain shot through my back.
The shock it gave me caused me to jump - and with my hand on one of
the feed wheels I bumped the lathe tool into the piece I was working
on, shattering the work.

It was a bloody wasp, it had crawled down my neck and stung my back -
I just didn't hear or feel the thing coming.

I got stung two more times that day, both in the same fashion.

I'll leave wasps alone in their own environment - much in the same way
that whilst I'll squash slugs on my veggy patch and flower beds I
won't squash them elsewhere - in their place these creatures have a
right to exist and perform a useful function.


Hear him, hear him.
I've twice been stung by wasps while putting the laundry out. A friend
pointed out that each time the innocent wasp probably landed on my neck
with the best of intentions before my collar attacked it as I moved. I
don't care. My house and garden are *my* environment: any wasp looking
for a nest site is doomed if I spot it.[1]

Besides which I think I'm developing an allergy to the stings :-((



regards
sarah

[1] About six so far this year, but who's counting?


--
"Great is truth, but still greater, from a practical point of view,
is silence about truth." Aldous Huxley

The Devil's Advocate 24-04-2003 07:20 PM

One wasp
 
No I never kill them as they kill off a lot of pests. I remember the cricket
groundsman who killed all the wasps and all the grass died out through lack
of pollination. Sounds a bit far fetched now

The Reid wrote:
: Following up to geoff
:
:: Whichever you
:: see, please do not kill them for they are great scavengers even
:: though they annoy one at times.
:
: annoy is probably an understatment if there is a nest nearbye and you
: want to eat in the garden!



The Devil's Advocate 24-04-2003 07:20 PM

One wasp
 
No they do so much good

Simon Avery wrote:
: "The Devil's Advocate" wrote:
:
: Hello The
:
: TDsA Doesn't make a summer but I saw one this evening
:
: I killed a Queen yesterday. They're starting to come out of
: hibernation and are hunting around for nesting sites.
:
: If you see one, get the bugger quick before it turns itself into a
: nest!



Ophelia 24-04-2003 07:20 PM

One wasp
 

"Mark Allison" wrote in message
...
The wasps have tried to dig through the blu-tack with success once, I have
now reapplied the blu-tack a bit thicker now and they can't get through

it.
They'll probably go next door...


I see.... another NIMBY *grin*

O



Ophelia 24-04-2003 07:20 PM

One wasp
 

"The Reid" wrote in message
...
Following up to Ophelia

We had one last week.


for dinner?


Not too bad marinaded in a little basil and garlic:)

*SWAT* cheeky:))

O





Ophelia 24-04-2003 07:20 PM

One wasp
 

"Simon Avery" wrote in message

I killed a Queen yesterday. They're starting to come out of
hibernation and are hunting around for nesting sites.

If you see one, get the bugger quick before it turns itself into a
nest!


Oooer missus... how will it do that? Can it turn into chairs and tables
too:)))))

O



Ophelia 24-04-2003 07:20 PM

One wasp
 

"Stephen Howard" wrote in message


It was a bloody wasp, it had crawled down my neck and stung my back -
I just didn't hear or feel the thing coming.


I sat on one of the wee $£%&^ once. It got me on my inner thigh. I thought
I had sat on a needle and it had gone all the way in:( That was the most
painful sting I had ever had. I don't muck about with them anymore.

O



Ophelia 24-04-2003 07:20 PM

One wasp
 

"Michael Saunby" wrote in message
...

"Drakanthus" wrote in message
...
I personally wouldn't have put the "even" in front of the hornets.

They
don't occur where I live now, but when we lived further south we had
them in the garden. They're much more docile and less aggressive than
wasps - big stripey pussycats, in fact :-)

Malcolm


That's how I think of bumble bees. My wife runs a mile, but I think they

are sort
of "cute". I can be dead heading plants and they land in a flower next

to
my
hand - they never seem the slightest bit interested in me so I leave

them
to it.
Live and let live. Wasps on the other hand - its open warfare!


Bumble bees I remove from the house by closing my hand around them - since
they rarely sting and it doesn't hurt much if they do. Wasps I'll admit I
tend to flick with a fingernail and then flick them out the window - some
live, some don't. Hornets I remove using a glass and a piece of paper.
The same for honey bees, though often they can be directed with a hand

wave
or too.

For those that want to try the experimental method of working out what you
have by how much the sting hurts - wasp stings hurt a little (rather more
than a nettle) and a bee sting hurts like hell and the sting is left

behind
with the venom sack still pumping. Not sure what a hornet sting is like,
probably like a wasp.


Hmmm the wasp that stung me left its sting in my leg!

O



Serena Blanchflower 24-04-2003 07:32 PM

One wasp
 
On Thu, 24 Apr 2003 14:22:07 +0100, The Reid
wrote:

sounds like a queen looking for a nest site.


Yes, I think that's the most likely explanation. Luckily, she must have
decided she didn't really want to share my bed!

--
Serena

Sometimes I sits and thinks ... and sometimes I just sits. (Punch cartoon)

Serena Blanchflower 24-04-2003 07:32 PM

One wasp
 
On Thu, 24 Apr 2003 13:21:32 +0100, "geoff"
wrote:

Wasps will bite off bits of wood from posts and fallen trees to turn into
paper mache for their combs . . . but a BED POST??!!


Not even a bed post! It was a blue cotton hanging, which I have as a
bed head. I did have images of her building a very tastefully furnished
nest from it, but I'm pretty sure she wasn't munching any. Just
admiring it.

--
Serena

Sometimes I sits and thinks ... and sometimes I just sits. (Punch cartoon)

Serena Blanchflower 24-04-2003 07:44 PM

One wasp
 
On Thu, 24 Apr 2003 18:55:57 +0100, "Ophelia"
wrote:

Oooer missus... how will it do that? Can it turn into chairs and tables
too:)))))


No, but it can turn your chairs and tables into a nest...

--
Serena

Sometimes I sits and thinks ... and sometimes I just sits. (Punch cartoon)

The Reid 24-04-2003 07:56 PM

One wasp
 
Following up to swroot

Besides which I think I'm developing an allergy to the stings :-((


[1] About six so far this year, but who's counting?


My wifes grandmother almost died when she swallowed one in her beer
and it stung the inside of her throat.
--
Mike Reid
"Art is the lie that reveals the truth" P.Picasso
London & the British hills "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk"
Spain, food and walking "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" (see web for email)

The Reid 24-04-2003 07:56 PM

One wasp
 
Following up to Serena Blanchflower

sounds like a queen looking for a nest site.


Yes, I think that's the most likely explanation. Luckily, she must have
decided she didn't really want to share my bed!


I thought of several replies, then thought better of all of them! :-)
--
Mike Reid
"Art is the lie that reveals the truth" P.Picasso
London & the British hills "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk"
Spain, food and walking "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" (see web for email)


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