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Gardeners World presenter?
My computer died and I have not posted for a long time . Didn't bother to
replace the computer - there is life outside of this virtual world. Whilst everyone wishes Monty Don all the best and a speedy recovery. The reality is he leaves a hole in the garden at Gardeners World. I have to say I am not enamored with the possibilities. I don't think it would be too unrealistic to say that Monty was a peoples choice promoted by those in this newsgroup ( the original BBC choice being Dairimud Gavin of people are old enough and still have brain cells enough to recall) . So, who should replace him? Or should Gardeners World call it a day and get the axe from the BBC? Lets face it, its changed beyond recognition and frankly I only watch half as often as I used to even when Alan was in charge and that was less than when Geoff Hamilton had the reigns. |
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endymion wrote:
My computer died and I have not posted for a long time . Didn't bother to replace the computer - there is life outside of this virtual world. Whilst everyone wishes Monty Don all the best and a speedy recovery. The reality is he leaves a hole in the garden at Gardeners World. I have to say I am not enamored with the possibilities. I don't think it would be too unrealistic to say that Monty was a peoples choice promoted by those in this newsgroup ( the original BBC choice being Dairimud Gavin of people are old enough and still have brain cells enough to recall) . So, who should replace him? Or should Gardeners World call it a day and get the axe from the BBC? Lets face it, its changed beyond recognition and frankly I only watch half as often as I used to even when Alan was in charge and that was less than when Geoff Hamilton had the reigns. I couldn't care less who presents it as long as they're replaced on a weekly basis. Presenters become personalities, then celebrities, and finally national treasures, by which time no one other than the BBC can stand the sight of them. |
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On 25/05/08 18:11, endymion wrote:
My computer died and I have not posted for a long time . Didn't bother to replace the computer - there is life outside of this virtual world. Whilst everyone wishes Monty Don all the best and a speedy recovery. The reality is he leaves a hole in the garden at Gardeners World. I have to say I am not enamored with the possibilities. I don't think it would be too unrealistic to say that Monty was a peoples choice promoted by those in this newsgroup ( the original BBC choice being Dairimud Gavin of people are old enough and still have brain cells enough to recall) . So, who should replace him? Or should Gardeners World call it a day and get the axe from the BBC? Lets face it, its changed beyond recognition and frankly I only watch half as often as I used to even when Alan was in charge and that was less than when Geoff Hamilton had the reigns. The basic thing is... what is the purpose/aim of Gardeners World? Until this is clarified, it is useless to consider who the front person should be.. Ed |
Gardeners World presenter?
"endymion" wrote My computer died and I have not posted for a long time . Didn't bother to replace the computer - there is life outside of this virtual world. Whilst everyone wishes Monty Don all the best and a speedy recovery. The reality is he leaves a hole in the garden at Gardeners World. I have to say I am not enamored with the possibilities. I don't think it would be too unrealistic to say that Monty was a peoples choice promoted by those in this newsgroup ( the original BBC choice being Dairimud Gavin of people are old enough and still have brain cells enough to recall) . So, who should replace him? Or should Gardeners World call it a day and get the axe from the BBC? Lets face it, its changed beyond recognition and frankly I only watch half as often as I used to even when Alan was in charge and that was less than when Geoff Hamilton had the reigns. I too hardly ever watch these days, it can be interesting occasionally but mostly it seems more interested in the personalities than the plants to my mind. Percy, come back, all is forgiven. -- Regards Bob Hobden |
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In message , Ed
wrote Until this is clarified, it is useless to consider who the front person should be.. The BBC want to make the program more appealing to the general viewing public, and more of a lifestyle program. The new presenter will be Terry Wogan. -- Alan news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com |
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"Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... "endymion" wrote So, who should replace him? Or should Gardeners World call it a day and get the axe from the BBC? Lets face it, its changed beyond recognition and frankly I only watch half as often as I used to even when Alan was in charge and that was less than when Geoff Hamilton had the reigns. I too hardly ever watch these days, it can be interesting occasionally but mostly it seems more interested in the personalities than the plants to my mind. Percy, come back, all is forgiven. Actually you are right. I do not watch as much as I used but hadnt really reflected on why. It is the personalities and lifestyle element. I suspect thats why I asked my question. I dont want a " personality" or " lifestyle" presenter. I want a proper gardener not a " designer" and I want to see a gardeners magazine programme not a lifestyle programme. I suspect my watching will get less if they do continue as at present. |
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I think the head gardener, Alys Fowler, should take over, the programme might then become watchable and her dog could replace chalky as a national treasure :-) But please not Carol Kline or Joe Swift, otherwise it won't get switched on at all. |
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On Sun, 25 May 2008 23:38:07 +0100, Alan wrote:
The BBC want to make the program more appealing to the general viewing public, and more of a lifestyle program. The new presenter will be Terry Wogan. What we need is a proper gardener, I was impressed with the female who was helping Monty Don, sorry forgot her name, she gave a two min demo , and yes 99% of us know how to prick out seedlings, but it was done clearly and simply, seems she does the work when the cameras are not about. -- Lincolnshire2012.com What Lincolnshire is planning for the 2012 Games! Sporting-lincs.com Search 1800+ Lincolnshire Sports Clubs. Now post your own Sport information! |
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On Mon, 26 May 2008 11:40:06 +0100, Derek
wrote: On Sun, 25 May 2008 23:38:07 +0100, Alan wrote: The BBC want to make the program more appealing to the general viewing public, and more of a lifestyle program. The new presenter will be Terry Wogan. What we need is a proper gardener, I was impressed with the female who was helping Monty Don, sorry forgot her name, she gave a two min demo , and yes 99% of us know how to prick out seedlings, but it was done clearly and simply, seems she does the work when the cameras are not about. She is the one who does all the work. The presenters just call in one day a week to push in a spade while they talk to the camera. |
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"endymion" wrote after "Bob Hobden" wittered on after "endymion" wrote So, who should replace him? Or should Gardeners World call it a day and get the axe from the BBC? Lets face it, its changed beyond recognition and frankly I only watch half as often as I used to even when Alan was in charge and that was less than when Geoff Hamilton had the reigns. I too hardly ever watch these days, it can be interesting occasionally but mostly it seems more interested in the personalities than the plants to my mind. Percy, come back, all is forgiven. Actually you are right. I do not watch as much as I used but hadnt really reflected on why. It is the personalities and lifestyle element. I suspect thats why I asked my question. I dont want a " personality" or " lifestyle" presenter. I want a proper gardener not a " designer" and I want to see a gardeners magazine programme not a lifestyle programme. I suspect my watching will get less if they do continue as at present. I suspect nobody involved with the programme in the production team is a serious gardener or plantsperson. That or it could just be they have to chase the viewing figures and therefore don't want to alienate the masses with a serious programme that teaches stuff, might tax their brains. Or perhaps a bit of both. I set myself up to watch one of the Chelsea programmes this week as it was advertised as being the one where they were showing plants in the tent, must have blinked! I want to know the current Latin name, where they grow in the wild and the conditions there, when it was brought into cultivation, by whom, the conditions it needs in the UK... not "Oooh that's lovely!", I can see that thank you. -- Regards Bob Hobden |
Gardeners World presenter?
"Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... "endymion" wrote after "Bob Hobden" wittered on after "endymion" wrote So, who should replace him? Or should Gardeners World call it a day and get the axe from the BBC? Lets face it, its changed beyond recognition and frankly I only watch half as often as I used to even when Alan was in charge and that was less than when Geoff Hamilton had the reigns. I too hardly ever watch these days, it can be interesting occasionally but mostly it seems more interested in the personalities than the plants to my mind. Percy, come back, all is forgiven. Actually you are right. I do not watch as much as I used but hadnt really reflected on why. It is the personalities and lifestyle element. I suspect thats why I asked my question. I dont want a " personality" or " lifestyle" presenter. I want a proper gardener not a " designer" and I want to see a gardeners magazine programme not a lifestyle programme. I suspect my watching will get less if they do continue as at present. I suspect nobody involved with the programme in the production team is a serious gardener or plantsperson. That or it could just be they have to chase the viewing figures and therefore don't want to alienate the masses with a serious programme that teaches stuff, might tax their brains. Or perhaps a bit of both. I set myself up to watch one of the Chelsea programmes this week as it was advertised as being the one where they were showing plants in the tent, must have blinked! I want to know the current Latin name, where they grow in the wild and the conditions there, when it was brought into cultivation, by whom, the conditions it needs in the UK... not "Oooh that's lovely!", I can see that thank you. -- Regards Bob Hobden Something which annoys me on many many programmes, is where we are being shown something on the 'how to do' basis, whether it's a gardening project, cooking, do it yourself or anything where we want to see 'how to hold a hammer and where to hit the nail to drive it in', and what do we see? The hairs growing out of some celebrity's ears :-(( Show us the hands camera man show us the hands. Which finger do I put on the top of the nail before I hit it? 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th or thumb? Mike |
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On Mon, 26 May 2008 18:53:53 +0100, Granity
wrote: If you'd bothered to read my post from earlier you would know it's Alys Fowler :-) must post a note to myself not to go, and make a coffee, between reading posts and replying :-) -- Lincolnshire2012.com What Lincolnshire is planning for the 2012 Games! Sporting-lincs.com Search 1800+ Lincolnshire Sports Clubs. Now post your own Sport information! |
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"'Mike'" wrote after "Bob Hobden" wrote "endymion" wrote after "Bob Hobden" wittered on after "endymion" wrote So, who should replace him? Or should Gardeners World call it a day and get the axe from the BBC? Lets face it, its changed beyond recognition and frankly I only watch half as often as I used to even when Alan was in charge and that was less than when Geoff Hamilton had the reigns. I too hardly ever watch these days, it can be interesting occasionally but mostly it seems more interested in the personalities than the plants to my mind. Percy, come back, all is forgiven. Actually you are right. I do not watch as much as I used but hadnt really reflected on why. It is the personalities and lifestyle element. I suspect thats why I asked my question. I dont want a " personality" or " lifestyle" presenter. I want a proper gardener not a " designer" and I want to see a gardeners magazine programme not a lifestyle programme. I suspect my watching will get less if they do continue as at present. I suspect nobody involved with the programme in the production team is a serious gardener or plantsperson. That or it could just be they have to chase the viewing figures and therefore don't want to alienate the masses with a serious programme that teaches stuff, might tax their brains. Or perhaps a bit of both. I set myself up to watch one of the Chelsea programmes this week as it was advertised as being the one where they were showing plants in the tent, must have blinked! I want to know the current Latin name, where they grow in the wild and the conditions there, when it was brought into cultivation, by whom, the conditions it needs in the UK... not "Oooh that's lovely!", I can see that thank you. Something which annoys me on many many programmes, is where we are being shown something on the 'how to do' basis, whether it's a gardening project, cooking, do it yourself or anything where we want to see 'how to hold a hammer and where to hit the nail to drive it in', and what do we see? The hairs growing out of some celebrity's ears :-(( Show us the hands camera man show us the hands. Which finger do I put on the top of the nail before I hit it? 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th or thumb? Which brings us nicely back to my comment, Percy, come back, all is forgiven. If he was going stuff you saw his hands not his face. -- Regards Bob Hobden |
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"endymion" wrote Actually you are right. I do not watch as much as I used but hadnt really reflected on why. It is the personalities and lifestyle element. I suspect thats why I asked my question. I dont want a " personality" or " lifestyle" presenter. I want a proper gardener not a " designer" and I want to see a gardeners magazine programme not a lifestyle programme. I suspect my watching will get less if they do continue as at present. I tape it and zap through all the boring (to me) bits :~) I love Carol Klein - in small doses. She'd be a nightmare as presenter Dairmund is out Joe is too bouncy The Cockney bloke is fun but not for 30 minutes Not many possibilities as far as I can see, unless there is some unknown out there who would surprise us all ! Jenny |
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In article , Bob Hobden
writes I want to know the current Latin name, where they grow in the wild and the conditions there, when it was brought into cultivation, by whom, the conditions it needs in the UK... not "Oooh that's lovely!", I can see that thank you. That'll be the programme with that female presenter then? You missed an awful lot of ooh and ahh and isn't that lovely if you missed her. I taped all the programmes and then deleted all the ones with her in before watching them, once i realised what the programme makers intended. Quite honestly if a simpering presenter had asked me whether i was pleased with my BRONZE award after I'd spent a year or so plus umpteen amounts of cash on a show garden building it, I'd have poked her in the eye with a bunch of daffs! -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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In article , Bob Hobden
writes Which brings us nicely back to my comment, Percy, come back, all is forgiven. If he was going stuff you saw his hands not his face. Helen Dillon or Geoffrey Smith would be good or any of the presenters from the gardening series made by RTE. But PLEASE not Chris Beardshaw and his liking for jumping over walls or running across fields or biking down lanes etc. -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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In article , Sacha
writes I think it's staring them in the face. Christine Walkden. She's a genuine plantswoman and a genuine gardener. She knows the subject from all ends up and she can talk to 'ordinary' gardeners as if they were her friends. I did suggest that in another thread sacha :) She is exactly in real life as she is on screen - no mad hair, or mad clothes, or any gimmick of any sort - just a really good gardener. Well I do think the BBC wanted her as a "character" and she has got an awful lot of mad ways and looks, but i do think she could bring the programme to life a bit and she is now known by the great undigging public It wouldn't hurt them to bring Peter Seabrook in, either. They won't do that he likes chemical warfare too much :) -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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On May 27, 10:02*am, "JennyC" wrote:
"endymion" wrote Actually you are right. I do not watch as much as I used but hadnt really reflected on why. *It is the personalities and lifestyle element. *I suspect thats why I asked my question. *I dont want a " personality" or " lifestyle" presenter. *I want a proper gardener *not a " designer" and I want to see a gardeners magazine programme not a lifestyle programme. I suspect my watching will get less if they do continue as at present. I tape it and zap through all the boring (to me) bits :~) I love Carol Klein - in small doses. She'd be a nightmare as presenter Dairmund is out On behalf of the Irish nation, I must ask: why is Diarmuid out? Cat(h) |
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On 27/5/08 13:53, in article
, "Cat(h)" wrote: On May 27, 10:02*am, "JennyC" wrote: "endymion" wrote Actually you are right. I do not watch as much as I used but hadnt really reflected on why. *It is the personalities and lifestyle element. *I suspect thats why I asked my question. *I dont want a " personality" or " lifestyle" presenter. *I want a proper gardener *not a " designer" and I want to see a gardeners magazine programme not a lifestyle programme. I suspect my watching will get less if they do continue as at present. I tape it and zap through all the boring (to me) bits :~) I love Carol Klein - in small doses. She'd be a nightmare as presenter Dairmund is out On behalf of the Irish nation, I must ask: why is Diarmuid out? Cat(h) The very thought of Diarmuid trying to teach about how to propagate, sow, raise and plant is enough to send many screaming for the hills, IMO. He's into hard landscaping, not plants in general. He is not very popular with the viewing public, and a lot of those represented by comments here found his last presenting appearance at Chelsea way over the top - remarks about him appearing well-refreshed were made, IIRC. He seems to have fallen out of favour at the Beeb anyway. And on top of that, quite a few have said here that they find him hard to understand. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
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On May 27, 2:26*pm, Sacha wrote:
On 27/5/08 13:53, in article , "Cat(h)" wrote: On May 27, 10:02*am, "JennyC" wrote: "endymion" wrote Actually you are right. I do not watch as much as I used but hadnt really reflected on why. *It is the personalities and lifestyle element. *I suspect thats why I asked my question. *I dont want a " personality" or " lifestyle" presenter. *I want a proper gardener *not a " designer" and I want to see a gardeners magazine programme not a lifestyle programme. I suspect my watching will get less if they do continue as at present. I tape it and zap through all the boring (to me) bits :~) I love Carol Klein - in small doses. She'd be a nightmare as presenter Dairmund is out On behalf of the Irish nation, I must ask: why is Diarmuid out? Cat(h) The very thought of Diarmuid trying to teach about how to propagate, sow, raise and plant is enough to send many screaming for the hills, IMO. * He's into hard landscaping, not plants in general. That's fair enough. I can see that plants are not his area of speciality. *He is not very popular with the viewing public, and a lot of those represented by comments here found his last presenting appearance at Chelsea way over the top - remarks about him appearing well-refreshed were made, IIRC. *He seems to have fallen out of favour at the Beeb anyway. I think he is probably believing his own propaganda, and turning into a bit of a diva and an insufferable spoiled pup. At least that's how he sometimes comes across to me. *And on top of that, quite a few have said here that they find him hard to understand. I find this odd. However, I realise that have the advantage on many that I am exposed every day through a combination of everyday life and access to UK TV and radio channels to most of the gaggle of regional accents of the British Isles. I have sometimes had to act as translator between some Irish and British (mostly English) friends and acquaitances. I say English because most Welsh and Scottish people in those circumstances appear to have little difficulty in following the conversation. And the understanding difficulty is always one way only - most Irish people are well atuned to most British Isle accents. Cat(h) |
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On 27/5/08 14:47, in article
, "Cat(h)" wrote: On May 27, 2:26*pm, Sacha wrote: On 27/5/08 13:53, in article , "Cat(h)" wrote: On May 27, 10:02*am, "JennyC" wrote: "endymion" wrote Actually you are right. I do not watch as much as I used but hadnt really reflected on why. *It is the personalities and lifestyle element. *I suspect thats why I asked my question. *I dont want a " personality" or " lifestyle" presenter. *I want a proper gardener *not a " designer" and I want to see a gardeners magazine programme not a lifestyle programme. I suspect my watching will get less if they do continue as at present. I tape it and zap through all the boring (to me) bits :~) I love Carol Klein - in small doses. She'd be a nightmare as presenter Dairmund is out On behalf of the Irish nation, I must ask: why is Diarmuid out? Cat(h) The very thought of Diarmuid trying to teach about how to propagate, sow, raise and plant is enough to send many screaming for the hills, IMO. * He's into hard landscaping, not plants in general. That's fair enough. I can see that plants are not his area of speciality. *He is not very popular with the viewing public, and a lot of those represented by comments here found his last presenting appearance at Chelsea way over the top - remarks about him appearing well-refreshed were made, IIRC. *He seems to have fallen out of favour at the Beeb anyway. I think he is probably believing his own propaganda, and turning into a bit of a diva and an insufferable spoiled pup. At least that's how he sometimes comes across to me. I think 'turning into' may be a bit behind the times now. The last time I saw him on tv he was in an advert for about 3 seconds. Once you get that sort of rep you're out because there are too many clamouring for the chance who don't behave like that. *And on top of that, quite a few have said here that they find him hard to understand. I find this odd. However, I realise that have the advantage on many that I am exposed every day through a combination of everyday life and access to UK TV and radio channels to most of the gaggle of regional accents of the British Isles. I have sometimes had to act as translator between some Irish and British (mostly English) friends and acquaitances. I say English because most Welsh and Scottish people in those circumstances appear to have little difficulty in following the conversation. And the understanding difficulty is always one way only - most Irish people are well atuned to most British Isle accents. I don't think it was so much his accent, or not just that but that he simply didn't enunciate too well and seemed to swallow his words. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
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Cat(h) wrote:
On May 27, 10:02 am, "JennyC" wrote: "endymion" wrote Actually you are right. I do not watch as much as I used but hadnt really reflected on why. It is the personalities and lifestyle element. I suspect thats why I asked my question. I dont want a " personality" or " lifestyle" presenter. I want a proper gardener not a " designer" and I want to see a gardeners magazine programme not a lifestyle programme. I suspect my watching will get less if they do continue as at present. I tape it and zap through all the boring (to me) bits :~) I love Carol Klein - in small doses. She'd be a nightmare as presenter Dairmund is out On behalf of the Irish nation, I must ask: why is Diarmuid out? Because when you have seen one garden concreted over you have seen his entire repertoire. We actually want someone who can present the programme and has a decent capability with green fingers. Carol Klein and Joe Swift, the guy with the allotment might be OK as a double act. She can grow stuff but is a bit odd. He is a bit too designery for my taste - lets see how he gets on with allotment fruit & veg and then make an informed choice. Whoever gets it please don't bring back the dreaded Titchmarsh. Regards, Martin Brown ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** |
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On 27/5/08 11:25, in article , "Janet Tweedy"
wrote: In article , Bob Hobden writes I want to know the current Latin name, where they grow in the wild and the conditions there, when it was brought into cultivation, by whom, the conditions it needs in the UK... not "Oooh that's lovely!", I can see that thank you. That'll be the programme with that female presenter then? You missed an awful lot of ooh and ahh and isn't that lovely if you missed her. I taped all the programmes and then deleted all the ones with her in before watching them, once i realised what the programme makers intended. Quite honestly if a simpering presenter had asked me whether i was pleased with my BRONZE award after I'd spent a year or so plus umpteen amounts of cash on a show garden building it, I'd have poked her in the eye with a bunch of daffs! It's a bit like someone interviewing people after a terrible tragedy and asking them how they feel. It's utterly cringe-making to watch! -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
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On 27/5/08 11:31, in article , "Janet Tweedy"
wrote: In article , Sacha writes I think it's staring them in the face. Christine Walkden. She's a genuine plantswoman and a genuine gardener. She knows the subject from all ends up and she can talk to 'ordinary' gardeners as if they were her friends. I did suggest that in another thread sacha :) Missed that, Janet. I'm so sorry! We've been away since last Thursday, christening one of the new twigs on the family tree, so I'm not up with everything, I'm afraid. She is exactly in real life as she is on screen - no mad hair, or mad clothes, or any gimmick of any sort - just a really good gardener. Well I do think the BBC wanted her as a "character" and she has got an awful lot of mad ways and looks, but i do think she could bring the programme to life a bit and she is now known by the great undigging public When she came here we didn't get any of that mad stuff, which seemed to be their way of introducing us to "oh get her, what a character". She was absolutely straightforward, down to earth and on top of it, a really nice person who did the job, got on well with the crew and didn't make a lot of to-do over it all. All ways round, I'd call her a winner. It wouldn't hurt them to bring Peter Seabrook in, either. They won't do that he likes chemical warfare too much :) True. But I suppose both sides could/should be represented? -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
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"Cat(h)" wrote in message ... On May 27, 10:02 am, "JennyC" wrote: "endymion" wrote Actually you are right. I do not watch as much as I used but hadnt really reflected on why. It is the personalities and lifestyle element. I suspect thats why I asked my question. I dont want a " personality" or " lifestyle" presenter. I want a proper gardener not a " designer" and I want to see a gardeners magazine programme not a lifestyle programme. I suspect my watching will get less if they do continue as at present. I tape it and zap through all the boring (to me) bits :~) I love Carol Klein - in small doses. She'd be a nightmare as presenter Dairmund is out On behalf of the Irish nation, I must ask: why is Diarmuid out? Cat(h) Don't get me wrong, I Love Dairmund and his mad gardens, but a lot of other people seem to hate the way he presents ! He also seems to have fallen into the bad books of the Beeb - he never to be seen anymore.... Jenny |
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On May 28, 1:15 am, Anne Jackson wrote:
The message from "endymion" contains these words: "Bob Hobden" wrote: "endymion" wrote So, who should replace him? Or should Gardeners World call it a day and get the axe from the BBC? Lets face it, its changed beyond recognition and frankly I only watch half as often as I used to even when Alan was in charge and that was less than when Geoff Hamilton had the reigns. I too hardly ever watch these days, it can be interesting occasionally but mostly it seems more interested in the personalities than the plants to my mind. Percy, come back, all is forgiven. Actually you are right. I do not watch as much as I used but hadnt really reflected on why. It is the personalities and lifestyle element. I suspect thats why I asked my question. I dont want a " personality" or " lifestyle" presenter. I want a proper gardener not a " designer" and I want to see a gardeners magazine programme not a lifestyle programme. I suspect my watching will get less if they do continue as at present. I remember seeing a rather likeable young lad, Bill Chudziak, presenting a gardening programme a few years agi, but it might have been 'regional'? Does the name ring a bell with anyone? -- AnneJ “Strength does not come from physical capacity. It comes from an indomitable will.” Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi |
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On May 28, 1:15 am, Anne Jackson wrote:
The message from "endymion" contains these words: "Bob Hobden" wrote: "endymion" wrote So, who should replace him? Or should Gardeners World call it a day and get the axe from the BBC? Lets face it, its changed beyond recognition and frankly I only watch half as often as I used to even when Alan was in charge and that was less than when Geoff Hamilton had the reigns. I too hardly ever watch these days, it can be interesting occasionally but mostly it seems more interested in the personalities than the plants to my mind. Percy, come back, all is forgiven. Actually you are right. I do not watch as much as I used but hadnt really reflected on why. It is the personalities and lifestyle element. I suspect thats why I asked my question. I dont want a " personality" or " lifestyle" presenter. I want a proper gardener not a " designer" and I want to see a gardeners magazine programme not a lifestyle programme. I suspect my watching will get less if they do continue as at present. I remember seeing a rather likeable young lad, Bill Chudziak, presenting a gardening programme a few years agi, but it might have been 'regional'? Does the name ring a bell with anyone? -- AnneJ “Strength does not come from physical capacity. It comes from an indomitable will.” Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi |
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On May 28, 1:15 am, Anne Jackson wrote:
I remember seeing a rather likeable young lad, Bill Chudziak, presenting a gardening programme a few years agi, but it might have been 'regional'? Does the name ring a bell with anyone? Yes, he did some work on Channel 4 in the days when they produced rather high quality gardening programmes. Very enthusiastic and gushing if I remember rightly. Nevertheless, his pieces were well researched and it was obvious that he had more than an inkling of his subject matter. I'm surprised he didn't migrate to the BBC, because his likeability factor and presentational skills far exceeded many of the GW crowd. As to 'bring back Percy', I'm afraid that would be a monumentally ground-breaking move, because the dear chap has been 6ft. under for more than a few years. But I agree with the sentiment, he was an educator above all else and so well 'genned-up' that I can't think of a single instance when he made a blunder in horticultural terms. I feel very privileged that I got to know him during the 1970's and have to say that he was one of the most generous hearted people you could hope to meet. A modest man, not for him the arrogance that seems to accompany celebrity, nor any hint of evangelical preaching. He was simply an advocate of good gardening husbandry backed by a lifetime of experience and learning. |
Gardeners World presenter?
On 28/5/08 08:12, in article
, "Dave Poole" wrote: On May 28, 1:15 am, Anne Jackson wrote: I remember seeing a rather likeable young lad, Bill Chudziak, presenting a gardening programme a few years agi, but it might have been 'regional'? Does the name ring a bell with anyone? Yes, he did some work on Channel 4 in the days when they produced rather high quality gardening programmes. Very enthusiastic and gushing if I remember rightly. Nevertheless, his pieces were well researched and it was obvious that he had more than an inkling of his subject matter. I'm surprised he didn't migrate to the BBC, because his likeability factor and presentational skills far exceeded many of the GW crowd. As to 'bring back Percy', I'm afraid that would be a monumentally ground-breaking move, because the dear chap has been 6ft. under for more than a few years. But I agree with the sentiment, he was an educator above all else and so well 'genned-up' that I can't think of a single instance when he made a blunder in horticultural terms. I feel very privileged that I got to know him during the 1970's and have to say that he was one of the most generous hearted people you could hope to meet. A modest man, not for him the arrogance that seems to accompany celebrity, nor any hint of evangelical preaching. He was simply an advocate of good gardening husbandry backed by a lifetime of experience and learning. He was around before the real 'celeb' culture got started and he was a genuine, old-fashioned gardener first and foremost, the telly thing came second for him, I think. I'd love to see Mr Baker, the former manager of the Duchy Nursery doing a spot or two! -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
Gardeners World presenter?
On Wed, 28 May 2008 01:15:00 +0100, Anne Jackson
wrote: I remember seeing a rather likeable young lad, Bill Chudziak, presenting a gardening programme a few years agi, but it might have been 'regional'? Does the name ring a bell with anyone? Yes he was lovely; a Scot. The series was called Bloom on Channel 4. Each programme featured one family of plants. I still have some on tape. Perhaps they should try "Guest Presenters" as they do on "Have I got news for you", but exclude Diarmuid and Charlie Dimmock! Pam in Bristol |
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I'd just about be happy with Chris Beardshaw or Rachel De Thame, at least they sound as though they're not reading it off of an autocue, their delivery is very professional compared with Ms Kline and Mr Swift. |
Gardeners World presenter?
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says... On 28/5/08 08:12, in article , "Dave Poole" wrote: On May 28, 1:15 am, Anne Jackson wrote: I remember seeing a rather likeable young lad, Bill Chudziak, presenting a gardening programme a few years agi, but it might have been 'regional'? Does the name ring a bell with anyone? Yes, he did some work on Channel 4 in the days when they produced rather high quality gardening programmes. Very enthusiastic and gushing if I remember rightly. Nevertheless, his pieces were well researched and it was obvious that he had more than an inkling of his subject matter. I'm surprised he didn't migrate to the BBC, because his likeability factor and presentational skills far exceeded many of the GW crowd. As to 'bring back Percy', I'm afraid that would be a monumentally ground-breaking move, because the dear chap has been 6ft. under for more than a few years. But I agree with the sentiment, he was an educator above all else and so well 'genned-up' that I can't think of a single instance when he made a blunder in horticultural terms. I feel very privileged that I got to know him during the 1970's and have to say that he was one of the most generous hearted people you could hope to meet. A modest man, not for him the arrogance that seems to accompany celebrity, nor any hint of evangelical preaching. He was simply an advocate of good gardening husbandry backed by a lifetime of experience and learning. He was around before the real 'celeb' culture got started and he was a genuine, old-fashioned gardener first and foremost, the telly thing came second for him, I think. I'd love to see Mr Baker, the former manager of the Duchy Nursery doing a spot or two! Don't think his wife would, she has enough trouble getting him in out of the garden! retired he may be, at a loose end not :~) -- Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall www.roselandhouse.co.uk Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and Lapageria rosea |
Gardeners World presenter?
On 28/5/08 12:06, in article ,
"Charlie Pridham" wrote: In article , says... snip I'd love to see Mr Baker, the former manager of the Duchy Nursery doing a spot or two! Don't think his wife would, she has enough trouble getting him in out of the garden! retired he may be, at a loose end not :~) Very true! But what a lovely man and a real gardener. Ray gave him some Diascia personata last year and he's thrilled to bits with it. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
Gardeners World presenter?
In article
, Dave Poole writes Yes, he did some work on Channel 4 in the days when they produced rather high quality gardening programmes. Very enthusiastic and gushing if I remember rightly. Nevertheless, his pieces were well researched and it was obvious that he had more than an inkling of his subject matter. I'm surprised he didn't migrate to the BBC, because his likeability factor and presentational skills far exceeded many of the GW crowd. He did the series on favourite flowers and his was the poppy. He had a strong Scottish accent I believe but yes he was likeable and must have a bit more gravitas now.! Maybe the powers that be are reading our emails and might consider him? He writs for the Sunday mail in Scotland. Link to his photo which might stir a few grey cells. http://www.sundaymail.co.uk/lifestyl...ning/bill-chud ziak/ -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
Gardeners World presenter?
On 2008-05-27 10:02:14 +0100, "JennyC" said:
"endymion" wrote Actually you are right. I do not watch as much as I used but hadnt really reflected on why. It is the personalities and lifestyle element. I suspect thats why I asked my question. I dont want a " personality" or " lifestyle" presenter. I want a proper gardener not a " designer" and I want to see a gardeners magazine programme not a lifestyle programme. I suspect my watching will get less if they do continue as at present. I tape it and zap through all the boring (to me) bits :~) I love Carol Klein - in small doses. She'd be a nightmare as presenter Dairmund is out Joe is too bouncy The Cockney bloke is fun but not for 30 minutes Not many possibilities as far as I can see, unless there is some unknown out there who would surprise us all ! Unlike some here, I thought that Joe Swift did well on the Chelsea programmes - he slotted quite comfortably into the new comedy duo and showed a new side which suggests he might make a good presenter if he can be encouraged to lose his straitjacket. Lack of knowledge in some areas is inevitable: the gaps in Monty's knowledge were wider than most -- but he is an excellent presenter with an excellent voice. That said, I'm also a huge fan of Christine Walkden and hope that the BBC gives her a chance. I would watch her every programme. I'm also a big fan of Carol Klein, who caresses plants like no other and probably knows more about them than anyone else save Roy Lancaster. But I think she struggles a bit on the presentation front so wouldn't be the best choice to succeed Monty (who I saw at Chelsea on Monday looking as pale and interesting as he always has). Some to avoid at all costs imho: the incomprehensible Diarmuid Gavin; the strait-laced and rather dull Rachel de Thame; the humourless lecturer, Chris Beardshaw; and the grating cheeky chappy, Chris Collins. It's possible that Alan Titchmarsh might want to return. Other outsiders include the extremely good Sarah Raven, the engaging Andy Sturgeon and, at 10,000-1, David Domoney from ITV. |
Gardeners World presenter?
Granity wrote:
I too hardly ever watch these days, it can be interesting occasionally but mostly it seems more interested in the personalities than the plants to my mind. I feel the same rarely actually watch it, it's on in the background and if something interesting comes on then I might take note. I think the head gardener, Alys Fowler, should take over, the programme might then become watchable and her dog could replace chalky as a national treasure :-) But please not Carol Kline or Joe Swift, otherwise it won't get switched on at all. I agree Carol and Joe, don't think I could stand to watch them for too long, it's hard enough with their little time slots now. Just to throw some more names in the pot, what of Bob Flowerdew (though I doubt he'd want the job), or Dan Pearson (though I think he'd have to learn a bit more propogation and drop some of the "design" or he'd just be another AT), or even Toby Buckland, he's light, jovial, knows his stuff and he's even got his wife as a ready made assistant. Well like I said just a few alternative ideas. Duncan |
Gardeners World presenter?
On 29/5/08 14:50, in article , "dr"
wrote: Granity wrote: I too hardly ever watch these days, it can be interesting occasionally but mostly it seems more interested in the personalities than the plants to my mind. I feel the same rarely actually watch it, it's on in the background and if something interesting comes on then I might take note. I think the head gardener, Alys Fowler, should take over, the programme might then become watchable and her dog could replace chalky as a national treasure :-) But please not Carol Kline or Joe Swift, otherwise it won't get switched on at all. I agree Carol and Joe, don't think I could stand to watch them for too long, it's hard enough with their little time slots now. Just to throw some more names in the pot, what of Bob Flowerdew (though I doubt he'd want the job), or Dan Pearson (though I think he'd have to learn a bit more propogation and drop some of the "design" or he'd just be another AT), or even Toby Buckland, he's light, jovial, knows his stuff and he's even got his wife as a ready made assistant. Well like I said just a few alternative ideas. Duncan I think Bob Flowerdew is probably a bit too 'alternative' for that job and I agree with your reservations about Dan Pearson. I'm ashamed to say I've never heard of Toby Buckland so am off to Google! -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
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